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Fu-Gee-La PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:46 am

yankee-in-france wrote:
Thanks, Fu, for this thread. It is 2007 and this shit is still going on. It is sick. This lack of humanity within our country is what will do us in as a nation. We were once a melting pot and the ethnicities of that pot strengthened our country. What happened to that melting pot?

Bush will tell you that the war on terror must be won. How 'bout winning the war on terror in the US? Is this not terror? Should this not be stopped?

Thanks yiffy. It is just utterly astonishing isn't it? Racism is alive and well and needs to be seen for what it is. I think that the key to resolving the issue is being able to recognize it in the first place. I think a lot of people here in the US are in complete DENIAL about the racism that exists here. I think the most prevalent example in this thread is the post from the Alexandria board- the man actually BLAMES the "Black ancestors" that sold their own people in to slavery, kidnapped them and shipped them away from their homeland. Unreal.

I am sure we are only seeing the first of it---


Police said Friday they are investigating a "racially motivated incident" at St. Mark's High School in Milltown.

Delaware State Police spokesman Cpl. Jeff Whitmarsh said a 10th-grade student's mother called police about the Thursday morning incident at the school off Kirkwood Highway in the 2500 block of Pike Creek Road.

The 15-year-old girl had sought and received permission from school administrators to wear a T-shirt depicting the so-called "Jena 6" -- a group of black students initially charged with attempted murder after a schoolyard fight with a white student in Jena, La., Whitmarsh said.

The girl wore the shirt to show support Thursday as people from across the country descended on the town to demonstrate for racially equal justice.

About 9 a.m., the St. Mark's student in the "Jena 6" shirt found a note hanging from her locker, Whitmarsh said.

"There was no direct threat to the young lady," he said, but the note contained both a racial slur and an obscenity.

Its contents are not being publicly disclosed, he said.

"The victim turned this note over to school administration," Whitmarsh said.

The case is being investigated by Delaware State Police Youth Aid detectives.

Asked whether police had been also been called by school officials, Whitmarsh said they had not.

School officials say the incident was being investigated internally as required under its policy dealing with harassment.

Police went to the school Friday morning to continue the investigation, Whitmarsh said, and "the note was seized for evidentiary purposes."

After The News Journal contacted the Catholic Diocese of Wilmington to ask why the school did not notify police and what school policies require for handling such incidents, St. Mark's Principal Mark John Freund issued a statement.

"St. Mark's is cooperating with the Delaware State Police in investigating an incident involving a note containing a racial slur that was left on a student locker on Thursday, 20 September, 2007," Freund began. "The event was reported by the student to our Discipline Office and St. Mark's responded to insure (sic) that the student was supported and that the student's parents were informed of the incident immediately."

His statement concluded by saying that "St. Mark's and its students stand united as a community against this type of behavior, and appropriate action will be taken when the individual responsible is identified."

Asked to specifically to address the questions of how the school handled the matter and the policies involved, Freund provided another statement.

He said, "The school is investigating this incident as an issue of harassment within the guidelines of our published policies.

"As has been stated by the Delaware State Police and reported by The News Journal, 'There was no direct threat to the young lady,' " he said.

"We have followed and continue to follow our policies in dealing with an issue of harassment," said Freund.
http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070922/NEWS/709220340/1006/NEWS



Smyrna students' Jena Six shirts violate dress code
By SCOTT BRODEN
sbroden@dnj.com

Students who wore "Jena Six" or "Free Jena Six" T-shirts to Smyrna High Thursday learned their expression about justice violated the administration's dress code.

Their message was meant to support the six black teenagers accused of attempted second-degree murder in a beating of a white peer from Jena (La.) High School, said Eddie Lynch, a grandfather of one of the local students.


"I don't feel like it was a dress-code violation," said Lynch, who's upset his grandson reported being sent to a holding room without an explanation. "It wasn't derogatory. They were wearing it as a support, not as a protest. It was handled wrong."

Lynch doesn't want a dress-code violation on his grandson's record and plans to see Smyrna High Principal Robert "Bud" Raikes on Monday.

A voice-mail message was left for Raikes Friday afternoon, but he was not available for comment for this story.

Rutherford County Schools spokesman James Evans said he was only aware that a white girl had violated the dress code by showing up with a "Free Jena Six" T-shirt at 10 a.m. Thursday.

"The administration told her and her mother that she would need to change her shirt," Evans said.

He said she was asked to change her shirt because earlier in the morning, there had been some racial comments made in the hallways by a handful of students, and some administrators had to break it up.

Evans said administrators at Smyrna High will be consistent in enforcing their rules for any other students involved.

"They told the girl she couldn't wear the 'Free Jena Six' shirt because they were worried it (would) lead to further disruptions," Evans said. "However, several students did wear black colored clothes to show their support for the Jena Six issue, and the school allowed this because it was a passive way of expressing themselves."

The dress code for the district states that a principal can restrict clothes that can cause disruptions, and administrators were worried the girl's T-shirt could lead to further problems, Evans said.
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Fu-Gee-La PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:07 am

The Tree

JAMES RAGLAND

12:00 AM CDT on Saturday, September 22, 2007

jragland@dallasnews.com

JENA, La. – Like a ghost, the tree that uprooted this small town's old-fashioned Southern civility came back to haunt it yesterday.

It didn't come alone, of course.

Calvin Hardy brought it, fresh from the backfill graveyard where he'd buried it less than two months ago.

Mr. Hardy, proprietor of H & H Tree Service, got a call from school officials in July asking him how much he'd charge to cut down the oak and take it away.

Unbeknownst to him, the oak had grown into a symbol of racial division at Jena High School. It was a place where white students often gathered. And when a black student sat under the tree, it set off a chain of events that continue to play out in this mostly white hamlet of 3,000.

The next day, three white students hung nooses from the tree. Tensions rose throughout the school and the town. In November, the school's main building was burned, and arson was suspected. In December, six black students beat up a white student on campus.

The local district attorney sought the harshest punishment he could for the six black teens, now known as the "Jena Six."

And by now, I'm sure you know the rest of the story.

So let's get back to that tree. It still has some life left in it, and it's still causing problems.

When school officials called Mr. Hardy, he said, "They said they had a tree that had caused a lot of conflict. And if they got rid of the tree, maybe the conflict would go away. They wanted it down before school started."

It took him half a day, but on July 23, for the grand sum of $500, he cut down the tree, which he estimated was 25 feet tall.

Normally, he said, people in his business burn or grind up trees and stumps when they haul them away.

"I hauled it to my cousin's and put it under a hill," he said.

And then, when the media began flocking to Jena on Wednesday, he learned that the tree was at the center of a months-long racial conflict that thrust Jena under an international spotlight.

He retrieved the tree's trunk, loaded it on the back of a maroon Toyota Tundra and parked it behind the LaSalle Parish Courthouse, where a throng of media was gathered Friday morning.

"I didn't see a need to let a piece of history rot under a hill,"
he said.

He'd already been offered $100 for the trunk, but he's banking that it may fetch a bigger price on eBay.

Justice may be wounded, but at least capitalism still has a strong pulse in Jena.

Anyway, reporters thought they'd stumbled upon an ironic angle to the tree tale: Catrina Wallace, sister of one of the "Jena Six," said she and two white freshman classmates planted the tree in 1994.

"It was a shrub," said Ms. Wallace, who graduated in 1998. "We were just beautifying the campus. We planted the tree and some flowers. I didn't know it had become a 'white tree' until this year."

But a white teacher from Jena contends he planted the tree. And when I went to the local library for help, the librarian told me that both were wrong.

"I know who planted it, but I'm not telling you," she said. "If he wants you to know, he can tell you himself."

Like other white residents in Jena, the librarian, who identified herself only as Barbara, just wants the national media to get out of town, "so things can get back to normal."

But the hawking of the oak tree is but one sign that Jena may never be the same.

"That's why I don't talk about it as much," Ms. Wallace said of the tree. "It's minor [who gets credit for planting it]. The tree wasn't a problem. The problem was the kids who hung the nooses."

"The tree was beautiful," she said.

A poet once waxed that "a thing of beauty is a joy forever."

Don't tell the folks in Jena that. They know better.
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yankee-in-france PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:11 am

We are an amazing nation and have contributed greatly in many areas for a young nation. Unfortunately, we have not made many advances on the war on bigotry and prejudice since the Yankees won the civil war. There was a time in the '70s that I thought we had crossed the racial barrier, but I was wrong, and it is evident today that we are regressing.
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dithers PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:17 pm

yankee-in-france wrote:
We are an amazing nation and have contributed greatly in many areas for a young nation. Unfortunately, we have not made many advances on the war on bigotry and prejudice since the Yankees won the civil war. There was a time in the '70s that I thought we had crossed the racial barrier, but I was wrong, and it is evident today that we are regressing.
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To condemn an entire nation based on one news story is bogus and quite unfair. If you think we've not made any progess since the Civil War then you'd best go back and read some history and social science books.

Just like the MSM and most libs - see only that the glass is half empty as opposed to half-full. See only the negative in life instead of the positives.

The very fact that the MSM and the Presidential candidates (particularly Clinton and Obama) have been fairly quiet on this issue since the protest the other day tells me there's something more afoot here than meets the eye.

In the meantime, young Genarlow Wilson still sits in a prison cell even after a judge reduced his felony conviction to a misdemeanor and ordered him freed. Still there after two years for the crime of receiving a blow-job. Where are the two Reverends and angry crowds when it comes to young Genarlow? Oops. Could it be because the prosectutor who went to court to block the judge's orders and Genarlow's release and who continues to fights for this kid's ridiculous sentence and incarceration to stand is himself a black man? Kinda hard for the two Rev's to scream racism this time - and so they remain silent. Shameful.
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scheherazade PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:19 pm

^^^^^


yankee-in-france wrote:
We are an amazing nation and have contributed greatly in many areas for a young nation. Unfortunately, we have not made many advances on the war on bigotry and prejudice since the Yankees won the civil war. There was a time in the '70s that I thought we had crossed the racial barrier, but I was wrong, and it is evident today that we are regressing.
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I knew evidence to support your point wouldn't be long in coming.
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scheherazade PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:31 pm

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=triangle&id=5664845

Nooses Found Hanging on N.C. High School Campus


(09/22/07 --HIGH POINT, N.C.) - Detectives are trying to determine who hung nooses on the campus of a High Point, N.C. high school Friday. The incident happened a day after thousands from across the country gathered in support of the Jena 6 in Louisiana.

Three nooses were found hanging from trees on the campus of Andrews High School.
The incident makes many wonder if what is happening in Jena, Louisina is spreading. In the case there, six black students were charged with attempted murder after allegedly beating a white classmate. The fight stemmed from an incident in 2006 after black students sat under a "white" tree at school. Three white students were accused of hanging nooses from the tree.

Although police don't have any leads, they plan to increase security at the school and in nearby neighborhoods. "Right now, we don't really know what the motivation is behind it, and that's what the investigation is all about for right now," High Point Police Lt. Ken Steel said.

Students protested inside the school with posters and encouraged unity among students. Counselors were also available for students.

Guilford County Schools Superientendent Terry Grier said when they find who is responsible for the act, they plan to prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law.
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pax PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:42 pm

The U.S. has made tremendous strides to end de jure segregation at all levels.

Voices of moderation are all around. Unfortunately, extremist polarizing views tend to get the most attention.




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pax PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:45 pm

dithers wrote:
yankee-in-france wrote:
We are an amazing nation and have contributed greatly in many areas for a young nation. Unfortunately, we have not made many advances on the war on bigotry and prejudice since the Yankees won the civil war. There was a time in the '70s that I thought we had crossed the racial barrier, but I was wrong, and it is evident today that we are regressing.
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To condemn an entire nation based on one news story is bogus and quite unfair. If you think we've not made any progess since the Civil War then you'd best go back and read some history and social science books.

Just like the MSM and most libs - see only that the glass is half empty as opposed to half-full. See only the negative in life instead of the positives.

The very fact that the MSM and the Presidential candidates (particularly Clinton and Obama) have been fairly quiet on this issue since the protest the other day tells me there's something more afoot here than meets the eye.

In the meantime, young Genarlow Wilson still sits in a prison cell even after a judge reduced his felony conviction to a misdemeanor and ordered him freed. Still there after two years for the crime of receiving a blow-job. Where are the two Reverends and angry crowds when it comes to young Genarlow? Oops. Could it be because the prosectutor who went to court to block the judge's orders and Genarlow's release and who continues to fights for this kid's ridiculous sentence and incarceration to stand is himself a black man? Kinda hard for the two Rev's to scream racism this time - and so they remain silent. Shameful.


Another straw man argument 'supported' by an absurd attack on liberals and mainstream media.




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dithers PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:13 pm

pax wrote:
dithers wrote:
yankee-in-france wrote:
We are an amazing nation and have contributed greatly in many areas for a young nation. Unfortunately, we have not made many advances on the war on bigotry and prejudice since the Yankees won the civil war. There was a time in the '70s that I thought we had crossed the racial barrier, but I was wrong, and it is evident today that we are regressing.
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To condemn an entire nation based on one news story is bogus and quite unfair. If you think we've not made any progess since the Civil War then you'd best go back and read some history and social science books.

Just like the MSM and most libs - see only that the glass is half empty as opposed to half-full. See only the negative in life instead of the positives.

The very fact that the MSM and the Presidential candidates (particularly Clinton and Obama) have been fairly quiet on this issue since the protest the other day tells me there's something more afoot here than meets the eye.

In the meantime, young Genarlow Wilson still sits in a prison cell even after a judge reduced his felony conviction to a misdemeanor and ordered him freed. Still there after two years for the crime of receiving a blow-job. Where are the two Reverends and angry crowds when it comes to young Genarlow? Oops. Could it be because the prosectutor who went to court to block the judge's orders and Genarlow's release and who continues to fights for this kid's ridiculous sentence and incarceration to stand is himself a black man? Kinda hard for the two Rev's to scream racism this time - and so they remain silent. Shameful.


Another straw man argument 'supported' by an absurd attack on liberals and mainstream media.


Pax -

How in the name of heaven can you possibly call discussion of the Genarlow Wilson case a straw-man argument?

You folks are so intent on putting down anything simply because I'm the one saying it that you make your own arguments senseless and defenseless.


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scheherazade PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:11 pm

yankee-in-france wrote:
We are an amazing nation and have contributed greatly in many areas for a young nation. Unfortunately, we have not made many advances on the war on bigotry and prejudice since the Yankees won the civil war. There was a time in the '70s that I thought we had crossed the racial barrier, but I was wrong, and it is evident today that we are regressing.
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Okay; we have made lots of progress.

What has become depressingly clear to me in these discussions about the Jena 6 and the racialization of Michael Vick's crime is that people harbor a lot of racial anger.


However, when I was a kid, we would come south to visit my cousins. In the 1950s and early 1960s, I saw the whites-only water fountains and waiting rooms. It felt to me like witnessing a crime. Where I lived, things weren't like that. Why? Our town was all white. It was like that in small farming towns in northern Wisconsin then. But when we went to cities with some racial diversity, the black people were allowed to buy a coke at a lunch counter and drink out of a drinking fountain like everyone else. Where we went to visit my cousins, this was not the case.

Perhaps this experience as a child made me particularly aware of the civil rights violence--the bombings and killings in the city I live in now and the killings in this region.

We have made substantial progress from those days in the 50s and 60s. When I moved to Birmingham in the early 80s, the city had a black mayor. We've had a black mayor ever since, and a fair majority of the city council is often black. As it should be. The city is majority black. But the economic inequality continues, and it is related to race.

And racial anger continues. Some white people seem to feel that we've taken care of all that and that any complaints about racism now are unreasonable.

I don't think we've taken care of all that. I think racial disparities still exist. I think the Jena 6 case reflects these disparities in some ways. It also reflects the white racial anger, coupled with the denial that race is still an issue.

Jena, Louisiana is a small, majority white town. I live in a large-ish, majority black city. The white people of Jena say that race isn't an issue and that "their black people" (a white citizen of Jena actually said that) are happy with the way things are. Because they are in the majority and they're isolated, they've been able to say and believe that until this. They may still say and believe it, but their delusion has been exposed. In a large-ish, majority black city, I see, along with the signs of failure of progress (the poverty, the poor schools clustered in black neighborhoods) signs of real progress. I see easy, friendly interactions between whites and blacks. I see a city that has acknowledged its dark civil-rights era history and celebrated the victories that came out if it.

Race is still an issue. Everything is not okay, but it's better.

So I guess I don't entirely agree with YIF, but I sure wish we'd made even more progress by now.
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scheherazade PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:05 pm

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/page.asp?RelNum=8236

Report From Civil Rights Project at UCLA Shows Racial Inequality Growing in America’s Schools


The Civil Rights Project/Proyecto Derechos Civiles at UCLA's Graduate School of Education & Information Studies, one of the nation's leading research centers on issues of civil rights and racial inequality, has released a report examining the growing racial inequality in America's public schools. Offering recommendations on how to realize the benefits of integration, the report comes as school districts across the country face the challenge of responding to the U.S. Supreme Court's new limits on desegregation plans.

Co-authored by Civil Rights Project co-director Gary Orfield and researcher Chungmei Lee, "Historic Reversals, Accelerating Resegregation and the Need for New Integration Strategies" shows that resegregation was accelerating long before the Supreme Court's June 2007 ruling, particularly in the South, where new 2005–06 school-year data show a historic reversal in the region's desegregation.

"Nearly two decades into the resegregation that earlier decisions helped create, the South is losing its huge gains in race relations in the civil rights era," said Orfield. "The country is likely to become even more separate — shutting out rapidly growing Latino and black populations from the strong schools and interracial experience they and our communities need if we are to be an economically and socially successful society. This goal is so important that educators and community leaders must find ways to support integrated schools in spite of the new limits."
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yankee-in-france PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:06 pm

pax wrote:
The U.S. has made tremendous strides to end de jure segregation at all levels.

Voices of moderation are all around. Unfortunately, extremist polarizing views tend to get the most attention.


It is a mentality, I believe. You cannot wipe out racial or religious prejudice with laws or political correctness. It is in the very fibers of people to blame their woes and troubles on a race or creed. It is sad.
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yankee-in-france PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:09 pm

dithers wrote:
yankee-in-france wrote:
We are an amazing nation and have contributed greatly in many areas for a young nation. Unfortunately, we have not made many advances on the war on bigotry and prejudice since the Yankees won the civil war. There was a time in the '70s that I thought we had crossed the racial barrier, but I was wrong, and it is evident today that we are regressing.
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To condemn an entire nation based on one news story is bogus and quite unfair. If you think we've not made any progess since the Civil War then you'd best go back and read some history and social science books.

Just like the MSM and most libs - see only that the glass is half empty as opposed to half-full. See only the negative in life instead of the positives.

The very fact that the MSM and the Presidential candidates (particularly Clinton and Obama) have been fairly quiet on this issue since the protest the other day tells me there's something more afoot here than meets the eye.

In the meantime, young Genarlow Wilson still sits in a prison cell even after a judge reduced his felony conviction to a misdemeanor and ordered him freed. Still there after two years for the crime of receiving a blow-job. Where are the two Reverends and angry crowds when it comes to young Genarlow? Oops. Could it be because the prosectutor who went to court to block the judge's orders and Genarlow's release and who continues to fights for this kid's ridiculous sentence and incarceration to stand is himself a black man? Kinda hard for the two Rev's to scream racism this time - and so they remain silent. Shameful.


I am hardly condemning an entire nation based on one news story. I am condemning those individuals who choose to see a man as a black man or a white man. I am condemning color-coding. If you stop thinking color, your mind opens up, and when the mind opens up, good things happen.
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pax PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:11 pm

yankee-in-france wrote:
pax wrote:
The U.S. has made tremendous strides to end de jure segregation at all levels.

Voices of moderation are all around. Unfortunately, extremist polarizing views tend to get the most attention.


It is a mentality, I believe. You cannot wipe out racial or religious prejudice with laws or political correctness. It is in the very fibers of people to blame their woes and troubles on a race or creed. It is sad.


That's a very good point yif. I do think ending de jure segregation did a great deal to reduce de facto segregation. We've made tremendous strides as a nation, and I'm optimistic that we'll continue doing so.




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yankee-in-france PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:23 pm

scheherazade wrote:
yankee-in-france wrote:
We are an amazing nation and have contributed greatly in many areas for a young nation. Unfortunately, we have not made many advances on the war on bigotry and prejudice since the Yankees won the civil war. There was a time in the '70s that I thought we had crossed the racial barrier, but I was wrong, and it is evident today that we are regressing.
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Okay; we have made lots of progress.

What has become depressingly clear to me in these discussions about the Jena 6 and the racialization of Michael Vick's crime is that people harbor a lot of racial anger.


However, when I was a kid, we would come south to visit my cousins. In the 1950s and early 1960s, I saw the whites-only water fountains and waiting rooms. It felt to me like witnessing a crime. Where I lived, things weren't like that. Why? Our town was all white. It was like that in small farming towns in northern Wisconsin then. But when we went to cities with some racial diversity, the black people were allowed to buy a coke at a lunch counter and drink out of a drinking fountain like everyone else. Where we went to visit my cousins, this was not the case.

Perhaps this experience as a child made me particularly aware of the civil rights violence--the bombings and killings in the city I live in now and the killings in this region.

We have made substantial progress from those days in the 50s and 60s. When I moved to Birmingham in the early 80s, the city had a black mayor. We've had a black mayor ever since, and a fair majority of the city council is often black. As it should be. The city is majority black. But the economic inequality continues, and it is related to race.

And racial anger continues. Some white people seem to feel that we've taken care of all that and that any complaints about racism now are unreasonable.

I don't think we've taken care of all that. I think racial disparities still exist. I think the Jena 6 case reflects these disparities in some ways. It also reflects the white racial anger, coupled with the denial that race is still an issue.

Jena, Louisiana is a small, majority white town. I live in a large-ish, majority black city. The white people of Jena say that race isn't an issue and that "their black people" (a white citizen of Jena actually said that) are happy with the way things are. Because they are in the majority and they're isolated, they've been able to say and believe that until this. They may still say and believe it, but their delusion has been exposed. In a large-ish, majority black city, I see, along with the signs of failure of progress (the poverty, the poor schools clustered in black neighborhoods) signs of real progress. I see easy, friendly interactions between whites and blacks. I see a city that has acknowledged its dark civil-rights era history and celebrated the victories that came out if it.

Race is still an issue. Everything is not okay, but it's better.

So I guess I don't entirely agree with YIF, but I sure wish we'd made even more progress by now.


Shez, I hear you. I was born and raised in Chicago and traveled to New Orleans when I was 9 (1954) and was amazed at the lunch bars for "colored" not to mention the bathrooms. It WAS terrible. I was 16 (1960) and on the Chicago beach when a black family came to the beach. The police were called. Why? Why couldn't they enjoy the Chicago beaches? I was a suburban brat and went home chanting the inequities of what I had witnessed. Let me tell you that my parents' neighbors sure didn't agree with me, and I guess that was when I became aware of racial bigotry and how hate destroys common sense.

Black politicians are no different than white politicians. They are either good people or bad people or ineffective, incompetent whatever. The goal must be to elect politicians with GOOD values. Color is unimportant. Blacks and whites need to think as people not black people or white people, just plain good people.
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yankee-in-france PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:28 pm

pax wrote:
yankee-in-france wrote:
pax wrote:
The U.S. has made tremendous strides to end de jure segregation at all levels.

Voices of moderation are all around. Unfortunately, extremist polarizing views tend to get the most attention.


It is a mentality, I believe. You cannot wipe out racial or religious prejudice with laws or political correctness. It is in the very fibers of people to blame their woes and troubles on a race or creed. It is sad.


That's a very good point yif. I do think ending de jure segregation did a great deal to reduce de facto segregation. We've made tremendous strides as a nation, and I'm optimistic that we'll continue doing so.


Pax, I am sure it did. It is just damn frustrating that the lynchmob mentality has not been eradicated . Yes, I am an optimist and will continue to hope.
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Fu-Gee-La PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:36 pm

Munsen Free on Bail - 1,670

Sunday, September 23, 2007
Teen Who Hung The Noose Makes Bond $1,670 And He's Now Free

Teen who hung noose released on bond

One of the Grant Parish teenagers arrested Thursday night in connection with a red pickup truck driving through downtown Alexandria with nooses tied to it was released on bond from the Rapides Parish jail Friday morning.

Jeremiah Munsen, 18 of Colfax, had his bond set at $1,670 after being charged with driving while intoxicated, inciting to riot and contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile, according to an Alexandria Police Department report.



Munsen and a 16-year-old from Dry Prong were stopped by police after complaints from a group of "Jena Six" protesters from Tennessee who saw the truck displaying the nooses as they were waiting to board a charter bus to leave Alexandria at around 9:30 p.m., police said.

The 16-year-old was also charged with underage drinking and probation violation. He is being held in Renaissance Home for Youth, police said.
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Wow. I would feel REAL safe having this drunk shot gun packin' "KKK gang member" running rampant around my town. I will wait for the Alexandria Outrage.
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Fu-Gee-La PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:45 pm

Day to Day, September 21, 2007 · Justin Barker, the high school student who was beaten up by six black youths last year that sparked the Jena Six case. Now his father David talks to host Madeleine Brand about his son, the altercation and race relations in the rural Louisiana town.

David says his son's injuries were worse than what has been reported. He doesn't believe the nooses are entirely behind the attack, and that his son was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

As for the growing image that Jena, La., is a town divided by race, David says that is not the case.

"They're making us look like a real racist town, but it's not," David says. "Prior to this, I speak to some of these kids' daddies and shake their hands. Even today, I still do."

Still, David believes the teens involved in the incident should face justice.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14589819&ft=1&f=1015
Interview at link. He says his son "has no idea" what started this. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
This guy sounds sketchy. Says his son and Bell "were friends".
I don't believe it.
He skirts around what school was like when he went to HS at Jena. oh boy. this guy is in complete denial.
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yankee-in-france PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:22 pm

Sure is, Fu, and he isn't a racist because after all he speaks to black people and shakes their hands. They don't see themselves for what they are.
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Schmerty PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:47 pm

yankee-in-france wrote:
Sure is, Fu, and he isn't a racist because after all he speaks to black people and shakes their hands. They don't see themselves for what they are.


So true,YIF! It's the inability to see what each person really is,that make progress so slow or nearly impossible. " SOME OF MY BEST FREINDS ARE BLACK. I EVEN TOUCH THEM ,SHAKE THEIR HANDS"<div><br><a>
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Fu-Gee-La PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:38 am

Student organizations rally to raise awareness about Jena 6
By TRACY CASSAGNOL, Alligator Contributing Writer
As thousands of activists converged on Jena, La., more than 400 UF students participated in two silent rallies Thursday in support of six black students involved in a racially charged controversy.

The rallies were held on Turlington Plaza and in the courtyard at the UF Law School.

In September 2006, several black students at Jena High School sat under an oak tree where white students generally congregated. The next day, the students found three nooses hanging from the tree. The white students responsible were later suspended. After several incidents, six black young men assaulted a white classmate in December. The young men, including Mychal Bell, now 17, were arrested. Some of the students' charges were later reduced from second-degree attempted murder to battery.

The rallies coincided with a national day of action and the day when the first of the Jena Six, Bell, was originally to be sentenced for aggravated second-degree battery and conspiracy to commit aggravated second-degree battery. The conspiracy conviction was overturned on Sept. 4. The battery conviction was overturned Sept 14. by a separate appeals court that concluded Bell should not have been tried as an adult. Thursday, a state appeals court ordered a hearing on whether Bell should still be in jail, even though his conviction was overturned.
http://www.alligator.org/articles/2007/09/22/news/campus/jena.txt

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congrats you dumb niggers wrote on Sep 21, 2007 8:57 AM:
" seriously its a sad day when the black communities example of good people is to free 6 thugs that beat a person unconscious. what more is there to say? dont put it on white oppression even countries that are run by black people are upside down, third world and the most violent Hati, Jamaica, pick any in Africa. even Mike Vick who plead guilty is still seen as innocent in the eyes of the black people. niggers nothing more nothing less. at what point does this whole genetics thing become fact? "



Fuck The Jena 6 wrote on Sep 21, 2007 12:09 PM:
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" Can't the black community pick better martyrs than a group of hoods who jumped a white kid and OJ Simpson? "

(more at link)
I am one stop short of starting an anti-redneck racist white trash site- I might even set my sites on over a hundred thousand members like the Nazi Stormfront site. Maybe that will give them something to REALLY bitch about. Someone needs to tell those blathering idiots that thier IDOL Hitler called them all lazy and dumb, and eyed them as fodder for the supreme German Race.
Was that bad?
Wink
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yankee-in-france PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:30 am

These people are just hateful and are to be pitied. They hate the blacks, they hate the Jews, they hate the Catholics, they hate the gays, etc. Down deep, they probably hate themselves the most for their pathetic lives.
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tulsad PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:00 am

yankee-in-france wrote:
These people are just hateful and are to be pitied. They hate the blacks, they hate the Jews, they hate the Catholics, they hate the gays, etc. Down deep, they probably hate themselves the most for their pathetic lives.


I'll be honest - I can't bring myself to read at the white supremist sites, but I would guess that they also hate the "brown" people of the world; Latinos and (probably) Middle Easterners - including Muslims. If you add these groups to their seemingly ever-growing list, they hate nearly everyone in the world. If I'm not mistaken, at least some of these groups also claim to be Christian - much like Al-Quada claims to be a faith-driven org. I wonder how often these people attend religious services - Protestant church - and if they proudly tell their fellow parishioners about their plans to rid the world of non-White Christians.

I cannot imagine having that much hate inside of me.
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yankee-in-france PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:54 am

tulsad wrote:
yankee-in-france wrote:
These people are just hateful and are to be pitied. They hate the blacks, they hate the Jews, they hate the Catholics, they hate the gays, etc. Down deep, they probably hate themselves the most for their pathetic lives.


I'll be honest - I can't bring myself to read at the white supremist sites, but I would guess that they also hate the "brown" people of the world; Latinos and (probably) Middle Easterners - including Muslims. If you add these groups to their seemingly ever-growing list, they hate nearly everyone in the world. If I'm not mistaken, at least some of these groups also claim to be Christian - much like Al-Quada claims to be a faith-driven org. I wonder how often these people attend religious services - Protestant church - and if they proudly tell their fellow parishioners about their plans to rid the world of non-White Christians.

I cannot imagine having that much hate inside of me.


Tuls, I do not read them either but it seems that Hitler is alive and well and living everywhere.
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pax PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:15 pm

Democracy isn't easy, it means supporting the right to speak views we don't like.

I support the Southern Poverty Law Center because it teaches tolerance with videos, seminars and teaching tools. It hits those who commit hateful actions where it hurts, by bankrupting them.




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