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woebedamned
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Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:46 pm |
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prosecutor is NOT confident the case will go to trial
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| SavannahStar
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Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:00 pm |
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| woebedamned wrote: | | prosecutor is NOT confident the case will go to trial |
Where's that from, Woe?
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| woebedamned
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Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:01 pm |
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| SavannahStar wrote: |
Where's that from, Woe? |
MSNBC
I also found it interesting the way they are naming J2K. It is "The Kalpoe boys" and "Mr. VanDer Sloot"
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| Bubbles
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Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:06 pm |
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| woebedamned wrote: | | prosecutor is NOT confident the case will go to trial |
Exactly or the boys would have been charged when arrested.
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| Bubbles
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Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:06 pm |
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| woebedamned wrote: |
MSNBC
I also found it interesting the way they are naming J2K. It is "The Kalpoe boys" and "Mr. VanDer Sloot" |
Also on faux.
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| MF
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Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:25 pm |
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| woebedamned wrote: | | prosecutor has asked for a "gag order" to be put on the case, asking that no onw be allowed to speak to the media after the hearings. (according to Fox) Jossy says gag order wont matter, he will get info |
Of course not, if he does not get the news, he will create them... then instead of backtracking, he'll say it was just an opinion....
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| Isanah
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Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:39 pm |
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| woebedamned wrote: |
MSNBC
I also found it interesting the way they are naming J2K. It is "The Kalpoe boys" and "Mr. VanDer Sloot" |
Racism I tell ya! Racism! 
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| Monkey Bunkey
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Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:59 pm |
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It's becoming clearer that this is nothing more than a lame bluff. Primarily because:
a the insistence to "gag" everyone and not reveal the evidence
b the insistence to keep the boys separate and even to have different lawyers so "they can't get their stories straight"
c the "big idea" being to confront each of them with this "shocking" "new evidence" and gauge their response
d OM's very informative and international user press releases repeating the above
e Arrests "all at the same time"
Which all in reality means:
1. KLPD doesn't sanction any of this. In fact on review and conclusion of everything, stated to ALE, sorry you guys really got nothing there, we have to go. bye
2. ALE knowing and agreeing, asks one more favor, look man, before you go, help us draw up the "flimsy list", best case discrepancies you unearthed
3. KLPD rather enjoying their stay on the island agrees. Jotting down 10 discrepancies, from flimsy to flimsiest.
4. And off they go back home.
5. No what to do ALE wonders, we got to do something before the clock runs out. It will look terrible we just agree and release them from suspect status
6. OK, lets go over the "flimsy" list
7. Days turn into weeks, into months, what the hell today.
Eureka !
8 Okay guys, let's go for it, now or never, we'll generate a lot of noise and suggest we got "shocking" new evidence to break open the case
9 Picking #1 on the "flimsy" list, they set to work. The bigger, the more shocking the more secretive we make it the better they conclude
10 Inform KLPD we're going with #1 on the flimsy list, prep for organized arrests
11. Get OM to release "big deal" press releases "very serious big shocking evidence" warrants arrests
12. Practice for media, "cannot say what evidence is", "very serious matter"
13. Shock and surprise the suspects, have them wonder what it is we have got
14. Repeat the seriousness of the "urgent" and "shocking" evidence that we have got
15. Let the suspects sweat
15. Then spring the trap
Confront the suspects and let us hope one of them breaks.
Only one same small problem:
GEEN LIJK GEEN ZAAK
what a complete waste of time and resources
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| Siddalee
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Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:56 pm |
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I'm sure Beth staged this whole fiasco for a movie she must be planning on producing!
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| Heli
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Fri Nov 23, 2007 4:21 pm |
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I don't discount the very real possibility that it's a ruse to freak out the
suspects and IF, IF one or any of them is guilty of any involvement in
Natalee's disappearance, it may shake him/them to such an extent as
to be vulnerable to inadvertently disclosing something during a heavy
handed interrogation.
Of course, if none of them had anything to do with the disapearance,
a ruse will go nowhere and time will continue to march on towards
December 31 and their release as suspects.
I've buckled up my seatbelt, purchased my barf bags and am preparing
myself for a weekend of massive cable media frenzy, sensationalism,
wild speculation and blow by blow reports of every sneeze, fart, cough,
crap and urination of anyone in Aruba 
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| Monkey Bunkey
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Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:50 pm |
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That's exactly it. The guy's had his hard drive raped via P2P. He's had his apartment broken into, ransacked, and his lappy stolen. Yet nothing. Suddenly at the 11th hour, something. New from a wire tap that ended in August, coupled with a review as of last week. After those two events, clearly letting him know people are desperate to "see" what he's hiding, plus being well aware from day one in Aruba, 2.5 years ago that his phones / comms. were / are / going to be tapped. Plus, being released at being younger and drunker and looser mouthed when he first arrived in Holland for school, we are now suddenly expected to believe, some time this year he "admitted" something in a phone call.
Doesn't work.
At all.
It's the mega bluff, or the Fab 7 manufactured witness scenario all over again.
Joe T's hovering for some reason, and it's not the 100K lifetime retainer representation if he decides to take you as a client [after checking of course ] 
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| Dilbart
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Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:01 pm |
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Joran's new quote to the detectives: "show me the body" (instead of show me the money....) 
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| Black-Tulip
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Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:12 pm |
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| Dilbart wrote: | | Joran's new quote to the detectives: "show me the body" (instead of show me the money....) |
LOL - but what will Satish say? Wasn't he considered the weak link?
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| Ezgoing
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Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:34 pm |
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It is stupid Americans that are making this HUGE leap that questioning =guilty. These same stupid Americans are overlooking their own presumption of innocence afforded ALL defendants in their own judicial system.
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Well, if it makes you feel any better, our cable media exaggerates and cannot be corrected. Take the ship that is listing in the Antartic - it has been reported all day that it hit an iceberg when in fact it hit a small piece of ice that has become disloged but put a hole in it. They magnify details wherever they can to enhance a story. I cannot agree that the general American population is "stupid" and "overlooking the presumption of innocence," because at least up until the last couple of days, the average stupid American had forgotten all about the Holloway case. Just my own stupid American opinion of course.
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| Trixie
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Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:43 pm |
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Monkey Bunkey wrote:
That's exactly it. The guy's had his hard drive raped via P2P.
Monkey Bunkey, StinkyPete's gonna be really made when he reads that..... just sayin.
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| Rolls
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Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:45 pm |
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| Monkey Bunkey wrote: |
It's the mega bluff, or the Fab 7 manufactured witness scenario all over again.
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So far we have NO facts to go on, but the phrase "abuse of process" comes to mind.
I continue to await real developments with skeptical interest.
-Rolls
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| Ezgoing
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Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:47 pm |
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| Rolls wrote: |
So far we have NO facts to go on, but the phrase "abuse of process" comes to mind.
I continue to await real developments with skeptical interest.
-Rolls |
Great post. 
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| Bubbles
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Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:56 pm |
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| Heli wrote: | I don't discount the very real possibility that it's a ruse to freak out the
suspects and IF, IF one or any of them is guilty of any involvement in
Natalee's disappearance, it may shake him/them to such an extent as
to be vulnerable to inadvertently disclosing something during a heavy
handed interrogation.
Of course, if none of them had anything to do with the disapearance,
a ruse will go nowhere and time will continue to march on towards
December 31 and their release as suspects.
I've buckled up my seatbelt, purchased my barf bags and am preparing
myself for a weekend of massive cable media frenzy, sensationalism,
wild speculation and blow by blow reports of every sneeze, fart, cough,
crap and urination of anyone in Aruba |
I think the original arrests were enough to shake them particularly when FBI was involved and they knew how twat was trashing them in media. If nothing came from that, I just don't see it happening now.
Don't forget the attacks on the 'weird Aruban system" or more aptly put wwhy they can't do things like we do whine.
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| Bubbles
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Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:57 pm |
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| Rolls wrote: |
So far we have NO facts to go on, but the phrase "abuse of process" comes to mind.
I continue to await real developments with skeptical interest.
-Rolls |
I believe David Kock and Joran's atty share your mind.
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| Bubbles
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Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:02 pm |
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| Ezgoing wrote: | It is stupid Americans that are making this HUGE leap that questioning =guilty. These same stupid Americans are overlooking their own presumption of innocence afforded ALL defendants in their own judicial system.
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Well, if it makes you feel any better, our cable media exaggerates and cannot be corrected. Take the ship that is listing in the Antartic - it has been reported all day that it hit an iceberg when in fact it hit a small piece of ice that has become disloged but put a hole in it. They magnify details wherever they can to enhance a story. I cannot agree that the general American population is "stupid" and "overlooking the presumption of innocence," because at least up until the last couple of days, the average stupid American had forgotten all about the Holloway case. Just my own stupid American opinion of course. |
What is even worse is most of the TH's are supposed to be attys themselves. They have no respect or knowledge of an inquisitional system. How pathetic is that???
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| Ezgoing
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Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:09 pm |
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| Bubbles wrote: |
What is even worse is most of the TH's are supposed to be attys themselves. They have no respect or knowledge of an inquisitional system. How pathetic is that??? |
I think the TH's do understand very well. They choose not to present their comments accordingly. They go for sensation vs. facts. I use that ship for an example because someone from the shipping company came on and spoke with the newscaster and corrected him. The next hour, the description of what had happened had not changed at all. I don't think you can judge the American people, warts and all, by the cable TV commentators. In fact, I think that most people know how twisted the stories can get. Not everybody is gullible and trusting - not by a long shot.
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