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gwenPosted:
Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:15 pm
From McCain, Warm Words for Bush
WALLINGFORD, Pa. – Senator John McCain was nearing the end of his rally in a high school gymnasium here Sunday morning, making the case that a comeback was at hand, when his voice suddenly began to grow hoarser and hoarser.
“Now let me give you a little straight talk about the state of the race today,’’ he said at Strath Haven High School. “There’s just two days left. We’re a couple of points behind in Pennsylvania. The pundits have written us off, just like they’ve done before.’’
Then his voice cleared, and he announced brashly, “My friends, the Mac is back!’’
He was reprising a slogan that was popularized around the time of his come-from-behind victory in the New Hampshire primary, and in doing so trying to offer a dollop of optimism supporters wary of the many polls that show him trailing Senator Barack Obama both here in the state of Pennsylvania and nationally.
“The other night, Senator Obama said that if he lost, he would return to the Senate and try again in four years for the second act,’’ Mr. McCain told the crowd. “That sounds like a great idea to me! Let’s help him make it happen.”
For months Mr. McCain has been trying to distance himself from President Bush, the deeply unpopular Republican president he is vying to succeed. For many days he has said at rallies, “I’m not President Bush.’’ And when Vice President Dick Cheney praised him this weekend, the Obama campaign quickly cut an ad to spread the word of an endorsement they clearly believed would hurt Mr. McCain more than it would help him.
So it was a bit surprising when Mr. McCain offered praise of President Bush on Sunday, reprising a line he has hardly used, if he has used it at all, since the Republican primary battles ended. It came as Mr. McCain praised Tom Ridge, the former Pennsylvania governor and Homeland Security secretary, who had introduced him.
“I think that Tom Ridge — and President Bush — deserve some credit for the fact there’s not been another attack on the United States of America since 9/11,’’ he said.
They do deserve some credit for keeping this country safe. The economy might not be the best, but it's a fact that security measures have been beefed up since 9/11
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gwenPosted:
Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:41 pm
Oh please...lay off the damn fear propoganda that Bush and Cheney have laid on us and you have bought into...
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gwenPosted:
Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:17 pm
Obama on MTV: I Don't Believe in Same-Sex Marriage But I'd Leave It in Place in Calif.
ABC News' Teddy Davis, Sunlen Miller, Tahman Bradley, and Rigel Anderson report: Barack Obama's nuanced position on same-sex marriage is on full display in an MTV interview which is set to air on Monday.
Obama told MTV he believes marriage is "between a man and a woman" and that he is "not in favor of gay marriage."
At the same time, Obama reiterated his opposition to Proposition 8, the California ballot measure which would eliminate a right to same-sex marriage that the state's Supreme Court recently recognized.
"I've stated my opposition to this. I think it's unnecessary," Obama told MTV. "I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage. But when you start playing around with constitutions, just to prohibit somebody who cares about another person, it just seems to me that's not what America's about."
"Usually, our constitutions expand liberties, they don't contract them," he added.
<div><a>MTV Shows</a></div>
MTV will release the interview as a 30-minute special on Monday at 9:00 am ET and 7:00 pm ET.
"Usually, our constitutions expand liberties, they don't contract them," he added.
Eeuw..
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paxPosted:
Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:08 am
The Change We Need
By BARACK OBAMA
This is a defining moment in our history. We face the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression -- 760,000 workers have lost their jobs this year. Businesses and families can't get credit. Home values are falling, and pensions are disappearing. Wages are lower than they've been in a decade, at a time when the costs of health care and college have never been higher.
At a moment like this, we can't afford four more years of spending increases, poorly designed tax cuts, or the complete lack of regulatory oversight that even former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan now believes was a mistake. America needs a new direction. That's why I'm running for president of the United States.
Tomorrow, you can give this country the change we need.
My opponent, Senator McCain, has served his country honorably. He can even point to a few moments in the past where he has broken from his party. But over the past eight years, he's voted with President Bush 90% of the time. And when it comes to the economy, he still can't tell the American people one major thing he'd do differently from George Bush.
It's not change to come up with a tax plan that doesn't give a penny of relief to more than 100 million middle-class Americans -- a plan that even the National Review and other conservative organizations complain does far too little to benefit the middle class. It's not change to add more than $5 trillion to the deficits we've run up in recent years. It's not change to come up with a plan to address our housing crisis that puts another $300 billion of taxpayer money at risk -- a plan that the editorial board of this newspaper said "raises more questions than it answers."
If there's one thing we've learned from this economic crisis, it's that we are all in this together. From CEOs to shareholders, from financiers to factory workers, we all have a stake in each other's success because the more Americans prosper, the more America prospers.
That's why we've had titans of industry who've made it their mission to pay well enough that their employees could afford the products they made -- businessmen like Warren Buffett, whose support I'm proud to have. That's why our economy hasn't just been the world's greatest wealth creator -- it's been the world's greatest job generator. It's been the tide that has lifted the boats of the largest middle class in history.
To rebuild that middle class, I'll give a tax break to 95% of workers and their families. If you work, pay taxes, and make less than $200,000, you'll get a tax cut. If you make more than $250,000, you'll still pay taxes at a lower rate than in the 1990s -- and capital gains and dividend taxes one-third lower than they were under President Reagan.
We'll create two million new jobs by rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure and laying broadband lines that reach every corner of the country. I'll invest $15 billion a year over the next decade in renewable energy, creating five million new, green jobs that pay well, can't be outsourced, and can help end our dependence on Middle East oil.
When it comes to health care, we don't have to choose between a government-run system and the unaffordable one we have now. My opponent's plan would make you pay taxes on your health-care benefits for the first time in history. My plan will make health care affordable and accessible for every American. If you already have health insurance, the only change you'll see under my plan is lower premiums. If you don't, you'll be able to get the same kind of plan that members of Congress get for themselves.
To give every child a world-class education so they can compete in this global economy for the jobs of the 21st century, I'll invest in early childhood education and recruit an army of new teachers. But I'll also demand higher standards and more accountability. And we'll make a deal with every young American: If you commit to serving your community or your country, we will make sure you can afford your tuition.
And when it comes to keeping this country safe, I'll end the Iraq war responsibly so we stop spending $10 billion a month in Iraq while it sits on a huge surplus. For the sake of our economy, our military and the long-term stability of Iraq, it's time for the Iraqis to step up. I'll finally finish the fight against bin Laden and the al Qaeda terrorists who attacked us on 9/11, build new partnerships to defeat the threats of the 21st century, and restore our moral standing so that America remains the last, best hope of Earth.
None of this will be easy. It won't happen overnight. But I believe we can do this because I believe in America. This is the country that allowed our parents and grandparents to believe that even if they couldn't go to college, they could save a little bit each week so their child could; that even if they couldn't have their own business, they could work hard enough so their child could open one of their own. And at every moment in our history, we've risen to meet our challenges because we've never forgotten the fundamental truth that in America, our destiny is not written for us, but by us.
So tomorrow, I ask you to write our nation's next great chapter. I ask you to believe -- not just in my ability to bring about change, but in yours. Tomorrow, you can choose policies that invest in our middle class, create new jobs, and grow this economy so that everyone has a chance to succeed. You can choose hope over fear, unity over division, the promise of change over the power of the status quo. If you give me your vote, we won't just win this election -- together, we will change this country and change the world.
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SchmertyPosted:
Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:48 am
YES!!! WE CAN!!! YES!!! WE CAN!!! YES!!! WE CAN!!!!
Skipping along my own path.
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paxPosted:
Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:09 am
Military donations favor Obama
WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. soldiers have donated more presidential campaign money to Democrat Barack Obama than to Republican John McCain, a reversal of previous campaigns in which military donations tended to favor GOP White House hopefuls, a nonpartisan group reported Thursday.
Troops serving abroad have given nearly six times as much money to Obama's presidential campaign as they have to McCain's, the Center for Responsive Politics said.
.... http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-08-14-military-donations_N.htm
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yankee-in-francePosted:
Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:40 am
Looks good, Appy, but we don't count chickens until they're hatched.
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gwenPosted:
Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:05 pm
McCain's Crowd Disturbingly Small, Ten Times Less Than Planned For
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prolificPosted:
Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:14 pm
yankee-in-france wrote:
Looks good, Appy, but we don't count chickens until they're hatched.
No, no chicken counting. I still believe it ain't over til all the votes are in.
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gwenPosted:
Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:24 pm
prolific wrote:
No, no chicken counting. I still believe it ain't over til all the votes are in.
AMEN!
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Elaine SPosted:
Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:24 pm
prolific wrote:
No, no chicken counting. I still believe it ain't over til all the votes are in.
Me, too ~ and, I live in PA!
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paxPosted:
Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:40 pm
Go Pennsylvania. Go Tuesday. Gobama.
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apodixisPosted:
Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:06 pm
Excellent article on what to expect while following the election returns tomorrow night:
"Hour by hour: a guide for TV election watchers"
Excerpts:
“Election watchers won't have to wait for polls to close in the West to know how things are going. The first clues will come early, when voting ends in Georgia, Indiana and Virginia.
If Democrat Barack Obama wins any of the three, he could be on his way to a big victory, maybe even a landslide. If Republican John McCain sweeps them, he could be headed for a comeback………..”
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paxPosted:
Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:18 am
Thanks for all the fun discussions everybody. Be sure to vote today. Bring water. Don't get out of line. Bring a chair. If you've already voted, consider bringing a friend to the polling place.
Have a great day.
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paxPosted:
Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:21 am
Please consider voting for Barack Obama.
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dugoPosted:
Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:32 am
Enjoy the day! I hope to see you all making huge turnout figures this time, because I think you should care.
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yankee-in-francePosted:
Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:34 am
Thanks, Dugo.
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SeraphPosted:
Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:03 am
pax wrote:
Please consider voting for Barack Obama.
Pax,
I definitely would , if I could. Thank you, Pax and all who have made these threads very interesting, honest, informative and humorous. It is great to see people concerned about the future, becoming involved in the decision making, speaking out, asking questions, and taking a positive step in guiding your country in the direction you want it to go. Good luck to you all. Your energy and excitement is palpable, as it should be when you enter a new chapter in your country's history.
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I still believe it ain't over til all the votes are in. 
Thank you, Pax and all who have made these threads very interesting, honest, informative and humorous. It is great to see people concerned about the future, becoming involved in the decision making, speaking out, asking questions, and taking a positive step in guiding your country in the direction you want it to go. Good luck to you all. Your energy and excitement is palpable, as it should be when you enter a new chapter in your country's history.
