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CherokeeKid
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Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:11 pm |
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You are most welcome, LP.
This 'family connection" is very confusing! I'm at a loss! 
Very little is mentioned about Skyla Whitaker's family. I cannot remember if someone spoke out in the media for her. Could not find pictures either.
Thanks for the link. I'll check it out later.
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| tulsad
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Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:33 pm |
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She was preceded in death by maternal grandparents, Ruby and Carl Paschal, and by her pateral grandparents, Petra & Arvie Placker.
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| LovelyPigeon
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Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:42 pm |
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tulsad, those paternal grandparents are actually her great-grandparents.
Her biological grandfather, Peter Placker (son of Petra and Arvie) had been raising Taylor as his own daughter.
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| LovelyPigeon
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Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:17 pm |
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If one looks into the criminal records of Taylor's extended family, there are members presently in prison and also out on parole for involvement with meth. Could be there is some connection there to the shooting deaths of Taylor and her friend?
LE in Oklahoma must have their hands full checking out possible connections.
Talk about a dysfunctional family...!
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| gwen
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Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:25 pm |
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Agents Refuse To Release 911 Call
An OSBI spokeswoman said Monday that her office would not be releasing an "extremely emotional" 911 call because agents don't believe it will advance their efforts to find whoever killed two girls in Okfuskee County on June 8.
Brown said her office has been fielding calls from across the United States and that she and her agents are interested in listening to anybody who might have information to offer.
During Monday's news conference, she said it's her belief that if more than one killer is responsible for the deaths of Taylor Placker, 13, and Skyla Whitaker, 11, that there are people besides those directly involved who know something about the killings and have yet to come forward.
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| CherokeeKid
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:39 am |
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| LovelyPigeon wrote: | If one looks into the criminal records of Taylor's extended family, there are members presently in prison and also out on parole for involvement with meth. Could be there is some connection there to the shooting deaths of Taylor and her friend?
LE in Oklahoma must have their hands full checking out possible connections.
Talk about a dysfunctional family...! |
I found it strange that the parents of the little girls would not speak out. Not even after a week. It crossed my mind if one or more were in jail.
I find it very disturbing that this family has some involvement with meth! 
The perp(s) could be someone who knows the family and shot the girls out of revenge? Or anger?
I just heard on Fox (Greta) that the police will re-interview the family and friends. If they possibly remember more details or have more clues.
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| tulsad
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:58 am |
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| LovelyPigeon wrote: | tulsad, those paternal grandparents are actually her great-grandparents.
Her biological grandfather, Peter Placker (son of Petra and Arvie) had been raising Taylor as his own daughter. |
Thanks, LP - the family is rather confusing in their references to other family members. Sad. 
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| Schmerty
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:19 am |
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It is very confusing & concerning. Hope fully the next few days will bring
additional information!
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| CherokeeKid
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:21 pm |
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Oklahoma Arrest Unrelated to Slaying of 2 Girls
Wednesday, June 18, 2008
OKEMAH, Okla. — A man deemed mentally ill was taken into custody Tuesday after bragging falsely that he was involved in the fatal shootings of two young girls on a rural country road.
The arrest briefly brought hope in a case that's puzzled investigators, who have struggled for more than a week to determine a motive while still waiting for the subject of a "person of interest" sketch to come forward with information on the killings.
Click here for photos.
Click here for a video report.
Investigators determined through extensive questioning that Weleetka resident Russell Neiley was not actually involved in the shooting. After being held on an emergency detention order, Neiley was taken to a mental health facility.
"It happened at the wrong time," Okfuskee County Undersheriff Darrell Summers said. "It's totally unrelated."
Police received a call Tuesday morning reporting a domestic disturbance at a Weleetka school, where Neiley was apparently dropping off one of his daughters.
"He was upset and said he was going to kill himself," Summers said.
Police followed him, then pulled his pickup over near the town of Henryetta and found a bolt-action rifle inside, Oklahoma Highway Patrol Lt. George Brown said.
The man threatened troopers that he was involved in the shooting deaths of 13-year-old Taylor Paschal-Placker and 11-year-old Skyla Whitaker, whose bodies were discovered June 8 along a back country road near Weleetka.
"We [had] a guy in custody, but it has nothing to do with the case," said Rex Hefner, Okfuskee County jail administrator.
Since Friday, the day when the girls' funerals were held, authorities have been searching for a "person of interest" they want to interview about the slayings.
The man in a sketch released by the OSBI is described as an American Indian, about 6 feet tall, with black hair and a ponytail stretching to the small of his back. Investigators say the man was seen standing near a white Ford or Chevrolet single cab pickup with chrome striping and an Oklahoma license tag around the time and place the girls were shot.
OSBI officials said Tuesday they are pursuing up to 40 tips related to the sketch that had been called in from across the country.
"We're running down the same leads," said OSBI Special Agent Ben Rosser.
The girls were shot a number of times in the head and chest with weapons of two different calibers, leading authorities to think two gunmen were involved. Investigators also believe that bullet casings collected near the crime scene could be linked to the homicides.
More than $30,000 in reward money is available for information leading to an arrest and conviction.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,368401,00.html
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| LovelyPigeon
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:57 pm |
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Police: Man Taken Into Custody Never Claimed Involvement
OSBI Still Fielding Calls From Across Nation
WELEETKA, Okla. -- Reports of a possible breakthrough in the investigation into the killings of two girls on June 8 proved to provide nothing more than false hope Tuesday.
Details emerged Tuesday morning regarding a Weleetka man claiming involvement in the killings of Taylor Placker, 13, and Skyla Whitaker, 11, on June 8. News spread like wildfire, but by Tuesday afternoon, it was confirmed that not only had no person of interest been arrested, the man involved in the original incident had never even claimed involvement.
Weleetka police told Eyewitness News 5 that the man was intent on killing himself, that he had no gun and that he had never claimed any involvement in the girls' deaths. Officers took him into custody at about 10 a.m. near Weleetka Junior High School.
Agents with the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation denied all along that the man taken into custody was a person of interest, adding that he was not even on their radar relative to the case. Likewise, Okfuskee County authorities denied Tuesday morning that the incident at the high school had anything to do with the June 8 killings. --->>
http://www.koco.com/news/16629920/detail.html
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| LovelyPigeon
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:10 pm |
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Agents are still looking for a man described as an American-Indian, possibly part white, who is about 35 years old and stands 6 feet tall. Brown said the man has a pony tail and drives a white Ford or Chevrolet single-cab pickup truck with chrome stripping and an Oklahoma license tag.
I hope they've checked out this man's alibi: http://tinyurl.com/5kln9u
He's 43, 6 ft tall, 174 pounds, brown hair in a long ponytail , hazel eyes. He's a convicted child abuser and his address is in Weleetka.
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| LovelyPigeon
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:26 pm |
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This man http://tinyurl.com/65mw65
is Taylor's biological uncle. He is the son of Joe Placker Sr who is a brother to Peter Placker. His prison conviction is for possession of a controlled substance.
More of his record is here:
http://tinyurl.com/5wokm5
The most recent is a warrant, for a false and bogus check, was issued just a few days after Taylor was murdered.
ETA sorry about blowing the margins! TY to CK for alerting me and pointing out tinyurl.com to me.
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| CherokeeKid
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:55 pm |
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| LovelyPigeon wrote: | Agents are still looking for a man described as an American-Indian, possibly part white, who is about 35 years old and stands 6 feet tall. Brown said the man has a pony tail and drives a white Ford or Chevrolet single-cab pickup truck with chrome stripping and an Oklahoma license tag.
I hope they've checked out this man's alibi:
http://tinyurl.com/6aenrs
He's 43, 6 ft tall, 174 pounds, brown hair in a long ponytail , hazel eyes. He's a convicted child abuser and his address is in Weleetka. |
Interesting, LP.
The man on your link has a beard. I wonder if he shaved it since that pic was taken.
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| CherokeeKid
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:11 pm |
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| LovelyPigeon wrote: | This man
http://tinyurl.com/65mw65
is Taylor's biological uncle. He is the son of Joe Placker Sr who is a brother to Peter Placker. His prison conviction is for possession of a controlled substance.
More of his record is here:
http://tinyurl.com/6jd7r4
The most recent is a warrant, for a false and bogus check, was issued just a few days after Taylor was murdered. |
From your link, LP:
Birth Date: 03/05/1973
So, he is only 35 years old. I wonder how old Vicky and Peter Placker are.
And after having a glance on his court records, a PROTECTIVE ORDER was issued twice (in 2002 and 2004) from a minor: ANN M PLACKER/MINORS v. JOE RICHARD JR PLACKER
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| LovelyPigeon
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According to Intellius.com, Peter Placker is 48 and Vicky is 47.
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| LovelyPigeon
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Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:37 am |
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This website http://v4mp-b1tch.tripod.com/id14.html belongs to Taylor's aunt/sister Linda Kaye Placker, who is listed as Peter Placker's daughter in the obit.
The family pix page shows Uncle Tony. He is Tony C. Paschal, and his prison record can be seen at http://tinyurl.com/5n5evu . If you have any doubts that the prison photo and the website photo are the same man, just view image 6 .
Brother "Willey" is Chris Placker whose prison record can be seen at http://tinyurl.com/6km4ox His nickname Wiley is tatooed on his thigh "Wiley Coyote".
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| Ber
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Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:06 pm |
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This is pure speculation..but it doesn't seem to me that the bodies where in plain sight, rather, quite off the beaten path. How did the finder know just where to find them? Makes me think that maybe he had something to do with it or that someone confided in him and he called police.
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| SavannahStar
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Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:11 pm |
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| Ber wrote: | | This is pure speculation..but it doesn't seem to me that the bodies where in plain sight, rather, quite off the beaten path. How did the finder know just where to find them? Makes me think that maybe he had something to do with it or that someone confided in him and he called police. |
They were in plain site Ber.....the GF knew where they were walking, on that particular road, and found them on the side of the road.
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| Ber
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Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:39 pm |
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my bad. but something still doesn't sit well with me...hasn't since i 1st read the story.
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| SavannahStar
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| Ber wrote: | | my bad. but something still doesn't sit well with me...hasn't since i 1st read the story. |
Hey I'm on a couple other boards about this case and trust me, the theories are far out and there are MANY of them.
I stick with the idea it was an EVIL person out for the "thrill kill."
But if you think family might have been involved, many others think that way also.
On one board I'm on, someone has found a possible connection between Skyla and a murder.....her brother was involved.....and the theory goes that hit men got her (and, peripherally, Taylor) due to the brother's crimes.
I just HOPE there is a resolution, whatever it is. Those girls were so precious, with their whole life ahead of them.
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| Ber
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Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:48 pm |
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ICAM that their lives were cut short way ahead of understandable time. I normally am one to wait and see where evidence points before speculating..but I have gut feeling about this. Of course I could be wrong.
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| CherokeeKid
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Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:34 pm |
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| LovelyPigeon wrote: | | According to Intellius.com, Peter Placker is 48 and Vicky is 47. |
Thanks, LP!
At that age, they could be the parents or the grandparents.
I was curious if Vicky Placker was significantly younger, being Taylor's morther, and if Peter Placker would be much older, being the grandfather.
However, I'm still confused of those two are the parents or grandparents of Taylor. I tend to believe they are the parents. And for whatever reason, Peter Tayler states he is the grandfather. Or the press got it wrong. Who knows.
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| LovelyPigeon
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Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:54 am |
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CK, there have been several articles that identify Peter Placker as Taylor's grandfather, and also as her guardian.
It may not have been general knowledge that Peter and Vicky were grandparents rather than parents of Taylor until after she was killed.
SS, is this http://tinyurl.com/6oynly the case that might be connected?
Skyla Jade Whitaker a resident of Rural Henryetta (Salem) passed this life on June 8, 2008 at the age of 11. Born April 5, 1997 in Joplin, Missouri to William and Rose (Farrow) Whitaker. Skyla attended Graham School. She is preceded in death by a Grandmother “Sam” Getman
Survived by her parents; William and Rose Whitaker of the home
3 Sisters: Rosita Gordon of Tulsa,Ok
Christina Whitaker of Popular Bluff, Missouri
Jayme Whitaker of the home.
Brother: Edward Gordon of Columbus, Kansas
Maternal Grandparents: Jim and Claudia Farrow of rural Graham,OK
Paternal Grandparents: Bill and Sharron Whitaker of Baxter Springs, KS
Linda Pritchard of Henryettta
“Granny”- Hester Gregg of Wagnor
“Grandpa”- Harold Getman of Baxter Springs, KS
Great Grandmother- Mary Pritchard of Miller, Missouri
Services will be 2:00pm, Friday, June 13, 2008 at the Henryetta First Baptist Church with Rev. Jim Paslay, officiating. Services are under the direction of the Rogers Funeral Home.
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| LovelyPigeon
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Edward Gordon, 20, is awaiting sentence for second degree murder charges that he plea bargained. He was promised 10 years as his sentence.
I haven't been able to find any absolute connection to the Edward Gordon listed as a brother to Skyla in her obituary, but the names are the same and so are the city addresses. It seems very likely that they are brother and sister, but I also don't know who the father is that gave Edward his surname of Gordon.
The convicted Edward Gordon was dealing marijuana, according to 2008 news articles from Kansas, which played a part in how the murder charge came about.
Sadly, it appears that both girls had family members involved in dealing drugs. Whether there is any connection to their murders remains to be seen.
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| SavannahStar
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Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:12 pm |
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| LovelyPigeon wrote: | Edward Gordon, 20, is awaiting sentence for second degree murder charges that he plea bargained. He was promised 10 years as his sentence.
I haven't been able to find any absolute connection to the Edward Gordon listed as a brother to Skyla in her obituary, but the names are the same and so are the city addresses. It seems very likely that they are brother and sister, but I also don't know who the father is that gave Edward his surname of Gordon.
The convicted Edward Gordon was dealing marijuana, according to 2008 news articles from Kansas, which played a part in how the murder charge came about.
Sadly, it appears that both girls had family members involved in dealing drugs. Whether there is any connection to their murders remains to be seen. |
Sorry I didn't get back to you on that, LP, and glad you found the info.
I'm not buying into any connection at all.....but it is interesting.
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