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lin
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:56 pm |
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4 am pickup?
Don't know if everyone here has seen this yet. Posted by PITA at BFN:
"Posted by Johan555 at SM....
It is a part official letter to Karin Janssen
It is in dutch
In this letter the lawyer said that Paul vd Sloot told Claudio Eldridge
that he ( Paul) picked up Joran at 04.00 nearby Mc Donalds ."
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| lin
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:59 pm |
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Don't know what I'm doing wrong with the graphic; thought I had the image thing down. If any moderator can fix it for me, please, much appreciated. I'll try to get back to fix it later, if no one else does. Sorry all.
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| Glenda
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:02 pm |
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Paul picked up Joran at 11pm.
Beth told this to many people on May 31st, June 1st, etc....
Charles Croes has said the same since day 1 as well as Alberto.
This is a letter from Beth's lawyer Vinda De Souza repeating what she was told by her client.
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The Good Witch
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| Fashionista
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:02 pm |
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| lin wrote: | | Don't know what I'm doing wrong with the graphic; thought I had the image thing down. If any moderator can fix it for me, please, much appreciated. I'll try to get back to fix it later, if no one else does. Sorry all. |
Done!
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| dugo
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:03 pm |
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a letter from the alleged victims parents .. what is so official about it? and why do we need to regurgiate this stuff again?
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| gwen
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:04 pm |
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| dugo wrote: | | a letter from the alleged victims parents .. what is so official about it? and why do we need to regurgiate this stuff again? |
Excellent question!
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| billybob
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:07 pm |
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| dugo wrote: | | a letter from the alleged victims parents .. what is so official about it? and why do we need to regurgiate this stuff again? |
some people just like to beat a dead horse. It really does get very tiring.
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| Arubalover
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:09 pm |
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I like Vinda, at least she is willing to call out Beth as the liar she is. I love her!!
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| Knipoog
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:09 pm |
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Claudio Eldridge. Gosh did Claudio change his name also? 
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| Glenda
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:17 pm |
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| Knipoog wrote: | | Claudio Eldridge. Gosh did Claudio change his name also? |
True, Vinda de Souza was used by Beth et al... And Claudio's last name is far from Eldridge..... I thought Claudio stayed in the car.  What do I know?
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| DiamondDot
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:25 pm |
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| dugo wrote: | | a letter from the alleged victims parents .. what is so official about it? and why do we need to regurgiate this stuff again? |
Since her Nov '07 interrogation in Aruba, Beth has not said "aruba" or "Joran" on tv. Don't know if she can say so in other venues. My point is that Beth gets everyone else to do her dirty work.
Just like the students who donate their time to study Natalee's 'cold case'. They have nothing but Beth's word.
If Beth leaks the info to BFN or SM, she can indirectly give the erroneous info to these groups.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/06/11/crime.club/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
| Quote: | | The students -- Jennifer Gosdin, 27, Antonio Wilson, 26, Danielle Zayas, 24, and Charna-Marie Dixon, 19 -- will file monthly logs, which will be posted on CNN.com. They also will file several special reports as they go on field trips to take an independent look at crime scenes, talk to witnesses and learn specialized investigative techniques. |
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| resigned
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:26 pm |
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the handlers......
Claudio Stamper
Alberto Groeneveld
Eldrith Enriquez
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| charlierat
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:28 pm |
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| dugo wrote: | | a letter from the alleged victims parents .. what is so official about it? and why do we need to regurgiate this stuff again? |
No doubt.
Lin, do you really have any remaining questions about the alleged 4:00 a.m. pick-up? If so, let me spell it out for you:
IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
An "ear-witness" (not even an eyewitness) thought that they heard Paulus say that he picked Joran up at 4:00. After investigating the claim of the "ear-witness," it was determined that the "ear-witness" was mistaken.
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| Knipoog
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:29 pm |
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| Glenda wrote: |
True, Vinda de Souza was used by Beth et al... And Claudio's last name is far from Eldridge..... I thought Claudio stayed in the car. What do I know? |
I don't think she did let them use her. I think she is pretty smart.
She just put in a letter what they told her and that's it.
I don't know what you know. 
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| prolific
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:29 pm |
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So this is a letter from Beth's attorney to KJ telling KJ that her clients said they heard PVDS say he picked up Joran at 4AM?
And? Is this supposed to be a bombshell? Proof?
Proof...of what......that the posse said PVDS picked up Joran at 4AM?
ELF UUR...
Although it was later shown to be unfounded.....etc....etc...etc...
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| resigned
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:30 pm |
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Claudio Stamper - is this the guy that was one of the posse's "handlers"
| Quote: | Stamper, general manager of Universal Aviation Aruba, N.V., is the local partner in charge of the project. "This investment will make it easier for private corporate jets to come and will bring more of that type of movement to Aruba. The market is changing and Aruba is getting prepared. Once the building is completed, more people will look toward Aruba and will want to come. We are known for our service," he said, noting also that he wants to draw more business from Europe and the Middle East.
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http://www.internationalreports.net/theamericas/aruba/2007/terminal.html
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| DiamondDot
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:30 pm |
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| Knipoog wrote: | | Claudio Eldridge. Gosh did Claudio change his name also? |
Hey Knipoog! Tell us some of the antics of the MB mob.
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| gwen
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:31 pm |
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Susan Levy and Beth Holloway personally met with the crime club class of 2008. One student, Antonio Wilson, was so moved that he drove to Natalee Holloway's hometown, Mountain Brook, Alabama, after talking with her mother.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/06/11/crime.club/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
Danielle Zayas, Antonio Wilson, Charna-Marie Dixon and Jennifer Gosdin will file monthly logs.
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| DiamondDot
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:34 pm |
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| prolific wrote: | So this is a letter from Beth's attorney to KJ telling KJ that her clients said they heard PVDS say he picked up Joran at 4AM?
And? Is this supposed to be a bombshell? Proof?
Proof...of what......that the posse said PVDS picked up Joran at 4AM?
ELF UUR...
Although it was later shown to be unfounded.....etc....etc...etc... |
What happened to the affadavits Jug was going to get swor in front of a US Federal Judge?
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| lin
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:35 pm |
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Thanks, Fashionista
Everyone else --- sorry this turns out to not to be of interest. Caught this just before I was stepping away and brought it for your perusal. Wasn't deliberate to upset anyone or regurgitate anything. I don't read Dutch and had no idea who wrote the letter. You've seen it; you're informing me and others the actual content. No need to be annoyed. Until informed, how was I to know?
lol CK --- ETA: Sorry it's boring, boring boring, too!
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| CherokeeKid
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:37 pm |
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Not annoying... just boring, boring, boring...
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| Pragmatist
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:39 pm |
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| Glenda wrote: | Paul picked up Joran at 11pm.
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Did he?
Joran, Satish or Deepak....can't recall which one....said in the beginning of this drama that Satish picked Joran up on the way to pick up Deepak at the Internet Cafe where he got off at 10PM.
The MB girls who were talking with Joran in the bar after the blackjack game said Joran left them about 9:50PM.
That times out to Joran catching up with Satish to get to Deepak by 10.
I do not personally believe the stories of Joran and the Kalpoes being at their respective homes between 11ish and 12:30ish when they arrived at CC's. I think they were together during that time, but my rationale is a long long long thing....so let's just say I don't think Paulus could have picked Joran up at 11 then driven home and fallen so deeply to sleep that fast that he didn't hear that loud ass car of Deepaks come to sneak Joran out of the house less than an hour later.
I think the McD's pickup story was contrived to make it look like Joran sneaked out...but we know he doesn't have to sneak out on Paulus because he was out so late the next night and Paulus knew it and was OK with it. I think it was contrived so Paulus involvement could be left out.
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| Knipoog
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:42 pm |
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| DiamondDot wrote: |
Hey Knipoog! Tell us some of the antics of the MB mob. |
Not MB mob. NG crew.
I have to ask permission. Privacy reasons.
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| billybob
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:42 pm |
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| Pragmatist wrote: |
Did he?
Joran, Satish or Deepak....can't recall which one....said in the beginning of this drama that Satish picked Joran up on the way to pick up Deepak at the Internet Cafe where he got off at 10PM.
The MB girls who were talking with Joran in the bar after the blackjack game said Joran left them about 9:50PM.
That times out to Joran catching up with Satish to get to Deepak by 10.
I do not personally believe the stories of Joran and the Kalpoes being at their respective homes between 11ish and 12:30ish when they arrived at CC's. I think they were together during that time, but my rationale is a long long long thing....so let's just say I don't think Paulus could have picked Joran up at 11 then driven home and fallen so deeply to sleep that fast that he didn't hear that loud ass car of Deepaks come to sneak Joran out of the house less than an hour later.
I think the McD's pickup story was contrived to make it look like Joran sneaked out...but we know he doesn't have to sneak out on Paulus because he was out so late the next night and Paulus knew it and was OK with it. I think it was contrived so Paulus involvement could be left out. |
do you also in your spare time write fantasy books? wow no wonder some of us have a difficult time posting on the same board. Your thoughts here are right off the Monkey pages.
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| Glenda
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:42 pm |
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| Pragmatist wrote: |
Did he?
Joran, Satish or Deepak....can't recall which one....said in the beginning of this drama that Satish picked Joran up on the way to pick up Deepak at the Internet Cafe where he got off at 10PM.
The MB girls who were talking with Joran in the bar after the blackjack game said Joran left them about 9:50PM.
That times out to Joran catching up with Satish to get to Deepak by 10.
I do not personally believe the stories of Joran and the Kalpoes being at their respective homes between 11ish and 12:30ish when they arrived at CC's. I think they were together during that time, but my rationale is a long long long thing....so let's just say I don't think Paulus could have picked Joran up at 11 then driven home and fallen so deeply to sleep that fast that he didn't hear that loud ass car of Deepaks come to sneak Joran out of the house less than an hour later.
I think the McD's pickup story was contrived to make it look like Joran sneaked out...but we know he doesn't have to sneak out on Paulus because he was out so late the next night and Paulus knew it and was OK with it. I think it was contrived so Paulus involvement could be left out. |
Where did you hear that?
The cellular phone conversations are in tack.
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