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olympic
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Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:39 pm |
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Cost of raid on polygamist camp tops $14 million
State records show cost of raid on polygamist ranch in West Texas tops $14 million
FORT WORTH, Texas June 14, 2008 (AP)
The cost of the April raid on a polygamist compound in West Texas is expected to top $14 million, about one-third of it in lawyers' fees, according to a published analysis of state records.
The Fort Worth Star-Telegram published its findings Saturday after reviewing more than 400 pages of invoices, e-mails and other state records that it obtained under an open-records law request.
More invoices for overtime, travel and professional services are expected to boost the final tab, the records indicate.
The biggest chunk of spending is expected to stem from court proceedings after the state seized about 460 children from the Yearning For Zion Ranch near Eldorado, which is owned by the polygamist Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
A state district judge in San Angelo first gave custody of the children to the state child protective services agency, but the Texas Supreme Court later ordered that decision reversed, saying the state had overstepped its authority.
The children were returned to their families early this month, about two months after the raid. Texas authorities are continuing investigations into allegations of child abuse.
The state expects to pay nearly $4.5 million in legal fees, including paying for lawyers who represented the state and others appointed by judges to represent the children. The state also expects to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for expert witnesses, visiting judges and office supplies.
The state attorney general's office has been billed $110,000 for DNA testing of adults and children taken from the ranch in an effort to identify the parents of each child.
Another big chunk of spending, about $2.4 million, went to rent buses and facilities to house the children and some of the mothers after the early April raid, the newspaper reported.
Overtime for state employees, including workers in the state's protective services agencies, was about $1.7 million, and travel another $1.2 million during the first month after the raid.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=5134172
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| Tonk
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Well I hope that's true that the state plans to pay lawyers appointed by the judge to represent children
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| olympic
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| Tonk wrote: | | Well I hope that's true that the state plans to pay lawyers appointed by the judge to represent children |
didn't some of the lawyers say they were representing these children pro bono?
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| Tonk
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| olympic wrote: |
didn't some of the lawyers say they were representing these children pro bono? |
all of them ...but it has turned out to be a far bigger job and a much greater time commitment than anyone dreamed. ad litems are withdrawing in scores because they cant afford to put their lives and practices on hold without compensation. that creates an enormous problem for this case and could cause significant delay in getting to final resolutio
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| dugo
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They could have saved a ton if they would have left the small kids alone fttb, from what I glanced they were not into pre-teen stuff over there..
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| Tonk
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Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:29 am |
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| dugo wrote: | | They could have saved a ton if they would have left the small kids alone fttb, from what I glanced they were not into pre-teen stuff over there.. |
One of the brides in the photos with Warren Jeffs was 11 years old. Boys are at risk of abandonment and neglect around that same age. There are several instances of histories of infants with broken bones. On the whim of the leader, and without any warning at all, entire families are taken from men and "given" to other men .. wives and children of all ages. The school has classrooms through 5th grade with no further curriculum. There is no medical facility on site, and medical care is not routinely sought off site.
Tell me which of the children in the community is safe?
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| olympic
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Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:10 am |
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| Tonk wrote: |
all of them ...but it has turned out to be a far bigger job and a much greater time commitment than anyone dreamed. ad litems are withdrawing in scores because they cant afford to put their lives and practices on hold without compensation. that creates an enormous problem for this case and could cause significant delay in getting to final resolutio |
thanks for clarifying that tonk!...... can't the attorney's charge the flds, they have ample coffers?
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| dugo
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Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:40 pm |
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| Tonk wrote: | One of the brides in the photos with Warren Jeffs was 11 years old. Boys are at risk of abandonment and neglect around that same age. There are several instances of histories of infants with broken bones. On the whim of the leader, and without any warning at all, entire families are taken from men and "given" to other men .. wives and children of all ages. The school has classrooms through 5th grade with no further curriculum. There is no medical facility on site, and medical care is not routinely sought off site.
Tell me which of the children in the community is safe? |
Which child is safe is of no concern for the state, or did Texas become a nany state?
Which of the children are in immediate danger, that is the question if you are going to take kids away from their parents in stead of parents away from their children. Take the kids away all you want, but they'll just make new ones!
When kids get (statutory) raped you throw the pedophile in jail. If the parents are involved in this you throw them in jail as accomplice. That is the way you protect children against this. When clergy/parent is having cause to believe that an underage kid is going to be fucked/abandoned/neglected and failed to report you can start by throwing him in the brick for 180 days for every time he failed to do so.
Kids on farms break bones, always have, always will, part of life and not abuse. Grandpa's farm counts 5 broken arms, 2 broken wrists, 1 broken foot not counting the fingers and ribs due to misbehaving horses. And that's among 2 kids till they were 16. If people break kids arms, throw them in jail!
Countless mothers take away children from men on the whim of marriage councelors who say "stick a fork in it". It's nobody's business, part of life and not abuse.
If the schools don't have a curriculum send in the Texas Education Agency, if there is no curriculum the school is not a school and you have a shitload of truancy fines to write out. Truancy is not dangerous and not abuse.
If you have parents there that failed to render medical aid when it was needed, start throwing them in jail!
If it is that bad in there, why aren't there arrests/fines, charges, the works left right and center?
Laws, crimes, rights, duties etc work on an individual level, not because you are from that religion, or you are within that fence.
Before you know it CPS will end up hauling kids out of baseball arena's into state custody because alcohol is being served there, don't laugh, they are already going in that direction.*
The kids are innocent, they did nothing, the state making them sleep in a bed that is not theirs is a very extreme meassure reserved for immediate danger that can't be deatlth with otherwise imo. It is traumatic and not funny.
* http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080428/COL04/804280375
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