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Myra Manes
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Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:01 pm |
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Elisabeth not quite ready yet.
| PerryPeabody wrote: | Josef Fritzl case: daughter not ready for court ordeal, say doctorsKate Connolly in Berlin
guardian.co.uk,
Tuesday June 24, 2008
Elisabeth Fritzl, the Austrian woman who was locked in a cellar for 24 years, has refused to testify against the father who imprisoned her, saying she is not yet ready to face him.
Doctors caring for the 42-year-old told Austrian media she needs more time to prepare for the encounter, which will require her to give evidence against 73-year-old Josef Fritzl via a video link.
While she would not be in the same room as him, she would be able to see him and could also face questioning by her father if he chose to challenge or refute her evidence.
The hearing was due to start in a week's time, on Elisabeth's insistence, so that her father's trial could begin as soon as possible. It has now been put on hold indefinitely. Doctors will determine when she is fit enough to testify.
When the hearing goes ahead, it is expected that Elisabeth will give evidence from the clinic in Lower Austria where she is being treated along with her six children, all of whom were fathered by Fritzl during her incarceration.
Doctors will be on hand to ensure she takes adequate breaks and that she is not overwhelmed by the encounter, which will be the first time she has come face to face with her father since her imprisonment ended two months ago.
Her mother Rosemarie, who denies knowledge of her husband's double life, is due to give evidence at the same time.
"A video recording of it will be shown at the main trial, because the victims will not be required to appear in person to give evidence before the court," said Franz Cutka, spokesman for the court in St Polten, where the trial is due to take place.
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Thanks for the article, perry.... 
Poor Elisbabeth.......having to relive that shit with the old man watching closely........ 
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| PerryPeabody
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Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:28 pm |
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Re: Elisabeth not quite ready yet.
| Myra Manes wrote: |
Thanks for the article, perry....
Poor Elisbabeth.......having to relive that shit with the old man watching closely........ |
Even worse is that he is allowed to question her. I find that inhuman.
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| Myra Manes
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Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:15 pm |
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Re: Elisabeth not quite ready yet.
| PerryPeabody wrote: |
Even worse is that he is allowed to question her. I find that inhuman. |
Why is it even being allowed???
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| PerryPeabody
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Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:17 pm |
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Re: Elisabeth not quite ready yet.
| Myra Manes wrote: |
Why is it even being allowed??? |
I don't know anything about Austrian legal procedures. I wish someone here (who would share it with us) did.
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| Myra Manes
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Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:08 pm |
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Re: Elisabeth not quite ready yet.
| PerryPeabody wrote: |
I don't know anything about Austrian legal procedures. I wish someone here (who would share it with us) did. |
I hear ya! it doesn't seem right but.........
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| danascully
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Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:09 pm |
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Re: Elisabeth not quite ready yet.
| Myra Manes wrote: |
I hear ya! it doesn't seem right but......... |
It sure doesn't, Myra.
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| wildroses
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Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:17 am |
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I certainly hope this animal is charged with, and convicted of murder; then a sentence of life is handed down.
Since he doesn't seem to leave his cell for fear of what other inmates will do to him, he can live out his life as his daughter and children did - in a cell, preferably a windowless one, w/o anyone speaking a word to him ever again.
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| PerryPeabody
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| wildroses wrote: | I certainly hope this animal is charged with, and convicted of murder; then a sentence of life is handed down.
Since he doesn't seem to leave his cell for fear of what other inmates will do to him, he can live out his life as his daughter and children did - in a cell, preferably a windowless one, w/o anyone speaking a word to him ever again. |
I thought that earlier we had heard that there is not a life sentence in Austria, nor consecutive sentences. I hope that I'm wrong.
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| AC
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| wildroses wrote: | I certainly hope this animal is charged with, and convicted of murder; then a sentence of life is handed down.
Since he doesn't seem to leave his cell for fear of what other inmates will do to him, he can live out his life as his daughter and children did - in a cell, preferably a windowless one, w/o anyone speaking a word to him ever again. |
Wildroses, I DO agree with you there!!!
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Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:22 pm |
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| wildroses wrote: | I certainly hope this animal is charged with, and convicted of murder; then a sentence of life is handed down.
Since he doesn't seem to leave his cell for fear of what other inmates will do to him, he can live out his life as his daughter and children did - in a cell, preferably a windowless one, w/o anyone speaking a word to him ever again. |
I couldn't agree more and I hope, even at his age, that he has many years left to do it in.
Death would be too easy for him.
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| Mariah
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Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:36 pm |
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Personally I like the other inmates saying the things that make him not want to leave his cell. Only thing missing is him being raped at the inmates will. Just like he did his daughter(s). We still don't know if he raped Elisabeth's daughter. I don't put that past this monster on bit.
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| tulsad
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Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:48 pm |
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| Mariah wrote: | | Personally I like the other inmates saying the things that make him not want to leave his cell. Only thing missing is him being raped at the inmates will. Just like he did his daughter(s). We still don't know if he raped Elisabeth's daughter. I don't put that past this monster on bit. |
My feelings about rape are so strong that I could never wish it on anyone - even this ultra-monster. However, I have no problem with him hearing other inmates' threats and living in the fear of rape every single day. That's how Elisabeth lived for 24 years. Besides, if he was actually raped he might freak out and die of a heart attakc - and we wouldn't want him to get off that easy, would we? 
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| Mariah
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Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:51 pm |
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| tulsad wrote: |
My feelings about rape are so strong that I could never wish it on anyone - even this ultra-monster. However, I have no problem with him hearing other inmates' threats and living in the fear of rape every single day. That's how Elisabeth lived for 24 years. Besides, if he was actually raped he might freak out and die of a heart attakc - and we wouldn't want him to get off that easy, would we? |
Good point! It did cross my mind while typing that. I guess being a rape survivor myself, I have no problem with the rapist getting to know what they did to their victim. Living with the aftermath is what they deserve. IMO ( Does that make me a bad person?).
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| wildroses
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Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:37 pm |
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| PerryPeabody wrote: |
I thought that earlier we had heard that there is not a life sentence in Austria, nor consecutive sentences. I hope that I'm wrong. |
Oh, I hope that's not the case.
If that's true, though, maybe they could try him on each individual charge (rather than all counts at one trial) and rack up the years that way.
I just hope there is some way he is never free again.
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| tulsad
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| Mariah wrote: |
Good point! It did cross my mind while typing that. I guess being a rape survivor myself, I have no problem with the rapist getting to know what they did to their victim. Living with the aftermath is what they deserve. IMO ( Does that make me a bad person?). |
No, not at all, Mariah! As a matter of fact, I'm not even sure why I wrote that now - I've never had any qualms about a rapist getting a taste of his own medicine before. To be honest, I don't think that I would feel badly if it happened to Fritzl - as long as he didn't die. I want him to suffer for as long as possible.
I'm sorry to hear that you had such an awful experience, Mariah; but I notice that you use the word "survivor" - I hope that's a sign that you have done some substantial healing. 
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