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hemchi
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| iquitos wrote: | | said joran called his father stupid on the de vies tapes. i don't remember that. i see here in any case he defends his father's integrity. did we know about natalee's rehab when they boys were in the process of fucking over joran? i think not. |
Depends when the convo was. On 11/25/07 van der Huevel (Telegraaf) wrote a reaction piece to Gielen's cabdriver/rehab story.
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| Pragmatist
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:28 pm |
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IMO, Joran is not idiot enough to tell anyone the truth about anything that happened that night, especially not Patrik who was prodding Joran like an amateur cop and two bit actor.
Plus, in the world of conspiracy theories, Peter went to Hans first to ask if he wanted him to tape Joran and Hans said no....so if there is corruption to be had then Joran knew what Patrik was up to before the rides ever began....and Joran got a lot of free dope for his trouble....Joran was rearrested in between Hans being asked if he wanted Peter to tape Joran and when the taping started. Smells like sex and candy! ....Not really that...but it does smell of Joran maybe knowing what Peter was going to do and telling him what he wanted to hear to yank his chain.
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| iquitos
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:31 pm |
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i think it is time to hear from joran again
the are ripping him a new one. i say larry king.
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| CherokeeKid
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:31 pm |
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Patrick's book will be as "honest" as Beth Twitty's: they both have an agenda. They both are liars.
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| iquitos
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:32 pm |
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| lin wrote: |
Patrick tried very hard to get Joran to implicate Paulus. So far, from what fierljepper gave us, Joran refused to do so. Unless something different comes out later, for me, that ends the 'what he wanted to hear' story. |
i think even joran would draw the line at dissing his own dad. there is a big difference. and that is not what patrik was really after anyway. they were after a "confession". very possibly joran was onto them.
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| CherokeeKid
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:38 pm |
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IMO, the case is dead. And no one is really interested in it anyway anymore.
It's down to some cheap rag paper, some gossip and some smear campain which includes Patrick's book.
I think it would be best for Joran to keep a low profile, not to do any more interviews and wait until Hans Mos will make his decision again, just like in Dec 2007.
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| iquitos
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:39 pm |
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even if they call him a male whore?
(with no dick) 
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| Emily
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:47 pm |
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Re: even if they call him a male whore?
| iquitos wrote: | | (with no dick) |
Joran probably thinks it's funny. He'll get even more offers from girls who want to check out the package and see if he's really gay.
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| toodles
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:50 pm |
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| CherokeeKid wrote: | | Patrick's book will be as "honest" as Beth Twitty's: they both have an agenda. They both are liars. |
To bad they arent as honest as Joran was with his pos book.
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| DiamondDot
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:52 pm |
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| CherokeeKid wrote: | There are phone booths outside of every hotel ~ for INTERNATIONAL calling ONLY! As they are provided for the tourists. NO local phones can be made!
Patrick is just trying to put his own spin on things. To make some $$$ with his book. To muddy the water more. IMO, it's worthless! |
Beth STFU for a reason.
This book is not doing her any favors.
Beth's book is a POS. Doesn't even make it to Nancy Grace's preferred reading list. BTW.... Dave's book is there.
Patrick's book is a POS. 
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| sunmoonstars
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:52 pm |
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Some new data from car ride 13-01-2008
Joran says that he did not have intercourse with Natalee.
Joran defends Natalee against the apparent claims that he she had been in a “kick-off clinic” or was on drugs that night. He says he has never seen proof of these rumors.
Joran lies to Patrick that the text message said “Thanks for the lift, see you tomorrow”. Patrick doesn’t fall for this.
Joran says that the friend who helped him wanted to go to the police. Joran didn’t want that. Then the friend called a third person and after that told Joran to go home and that everything would be arranged. Joran says that he though the friend called for a boat.
Joran says that in hindsight he should have just told what happened but didn’t know at that time how big it would become.
If Joran was going to lie to Patrick, why not lie about everything? Why not make Natalee look as bad as he can?
If he was bragging to look good, why not say they had sex and did drugs? Wouldn't that make him look more a man?
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| DiamondDot
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:58 pm |
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| sunmoonstars wrote: | | Aren't there transcripts of all this somewhere? |
There are reams and reams of transcripts of Beth's lies. Miles and miles of video. Didn't stop her from selling her POS book.
Why transcripts matter now?
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| iquitos
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:00 pm |
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joran prefers
a blend. 
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| iquitos
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:07 pm |
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2-3 grams of cocaine a day for 7 months
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2008/06/holloway_tapes_van_der_eem_use.php
Holloway tapes: Van der Eem used cocaine
Tuesday 24 June 2008
Patrick van der Eem, the man who got Joran van der Sloot to confess to being with American teenager Natalie Holloway when she died, was heavily under the influence of cocaine while making the secret recordings, the Volkskrant reports on Tuesday.
In a long interview to mark the publication of his book Overboard, Van der Eem talks of his cocaine addiction, his feelings towards Van der Sloot and tv presenter Peter R de Vries, and the money he has earned from the confession.
Van der Eem, a convicted drugs dealer, worked with De Vries on a tv show about the girl's disappearance on the holiday island of Aruba in 2005. Van der Eem made several car journeys with Van der Sloot in which he talked about how Natalee died and how her body was dumped at sea.
He told the paper he took cocaine to remove any doubts Van der Sloot had about him. 'Joran sensed something... so I began to take it in front of him every day.' Van der Eem said he took between two and three grammes of cocaine a day for a seven-month period.
Van der Sloot also took cocaine with him but not during the car journeys shown on the tv programme, Van der Eem said. However, the tv clips do show Van der Sloot smoking marijuana.
He also admits to the paper that his ego played a role in unmasking Van der Sloot. ´When you can do something which others can't, the FBI, the CIA, the police... Everyone was looking and Patrick finds. Then you feel yourself to be a tough guy.'
US tv station ABC paid $830,000 to broadcast the show, Van der Eem said.
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| Topsider
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:08 pm |
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| sunmoonstars wrote: | Some new data from car ride 13-01-2008
Joran says that he did not have intercourse with Natalee.
Joran defends Natalee against the apparent claims that he she had been in a “kick-off clinic” or was on drugs that night. He says he has never seen proof of these rumors.
Joran lies to Patrick that the text message said “Thanks for the lift, see you tomorrow”. Patrick doesn’t fall for this.
Joran says that the friend who helped him wanted to go to the police. Joran didn’t want that. Then the friend called a third person and after that told Joran to go home and that everything would be arranged. Joran says that he though the friend called for a boat.
Joran says that in hindsight he should have just told what happened but didn’t know at that time how big it would become.
If Joran was going to lie to Patrick, why not lie about everything? Why not make Natalee look as bad as he can?
If he was bragging to look good, why not say they had sex and did drugs? Wouldn't that make him look more a man? |
And Pa V waited nervously for the high sign
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| WangChung
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:09 pm |
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| sunmoonstars wrote: |
iquitos, I don't follow anyone's party line and I thought you knew that by now. I never said I agree with the drugs used or the lying. Everyone involved is playing someone. |
I agree. Beth has played her 'donors' like a pedal steel guitar and still no sign of the ISTF scam foundation's IRS Form 990. 
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| Topsider
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| WangChung wrote: |
I agree. Beth has played her 'donors' like a pedal steel guitar and still no sign of the ISTF scam foundation's IRS Form 990. |
You weren't on the mailing list?
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| gwen
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:17 pm |
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Re: 2-3 grams of cocaine a day for 7 months
| iquitos wrote: | http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2008/06/holloway_tapes_van_der_eem_use.php
Holloway tapes: Van der Eem used cocaine
Tuesday 24 June 2008
Patrick van der Eem, the man who got Joran van der Sloot to confess to being with American teenager Natalie Holloway when she died, was heavily under the influence of cocaine while making the secret recordings, the Volkskrant reports on Tuesday.
In a long interview to mark the publication of his book Overboard, Van der Eem talks of his cocaine addiction, his feelings towards Van der Sloot and tv presenter Peter R de Vries, and the money he has earned from the confession.
Van der Eem, a convicted drugs dealer, worked with De Vries on a tv show about the girl's disappearance on the holiday island of Aruba in 2005. Van der Eem made several car journeys with Van der Sloot in which he talked about how Natalee died and how her body was dumped at sea.
He told the paper he took cocaine to remove any doubts Van der Sloot had about him. 'Joran sensed something... so I began to take it in front of him every day.' Van der Eem said he took between two and three grammes of cocaine a day for a seven-month period.
Van der Sloot also took cocaine with him but not during the car journeys shown on the tv programme, Van der Eem said. However, the tv clips do show Van der Sloot smoking marijuana.
He also admits to the paper that his ego played a role in unmasking Van der Sloot. ´When you can do something which others can't, the FBI, the CIA, the police... Everyone was looking and Patrick finds. Then you feel yourself to be a tough guy.'
US tv station ABC paid $830,000 to broadcast the show, Van der Eem said. |
What a narcissist thug this guy is. Anyone who falls for his BS is absolutely clueless!
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| Emily
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:21 pm |
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Re: 2-3 grams of cocaine a day for 7 months
| iquitos wrote: | http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2008/06/holloway_tapes_van_der_eem_use.php
Holloway tapes: Van der Eem used cocaine
Tuesday 24 June 2008
Patrick van der Eem, the man who got Joran van der Sloot to confess to being with American teenager Natalie Holloway when she died, was heavily under the influence of cocaine while making the secret recordings, the Volkskrant reports on Tuesday.
In a long interview to mark the publication of his book Overboard, Van der Eem talks of his cocaine addiction, his feelings towards Van der Sloot and tv presenter Peter R de Vries, and the money he has earned from the confession.
Van der Eem, a convicted drugs dealer, worked with De Vries on a tv show about the girl's disappearance on the holiday island of Aruba in 2005. Van der Eem made several car journeys with Van der Sloot in which he talked about how Natalee died and how her body was dumped at sea.
He told the paper he took cocaine to remove any doubts Van der Sloot had about him. 'Joran sensed something... so I began to take it in front of him every day.' Van der Eem said he took between two and three grammes of cocaine a day for a seven-month period.
Van der Sloot also took cocaine with him but not during the car journeys shown on the tv programme, Van der Eem said. However, the tv clips do show Van der Sloot smoking marijuana.
He also admits to the paper that his ego played a role in unmasking Van der Sloot. ´When you can do something which others can't, the FBI, the CIA, the police... Everyone was looking and Patrick finds. Then you feel yourself to be a tough guy.'
US tv station ABC paid $830,000 to broadcast the show, Van der Eem said. |
Thank you. They cleaned it up for the english version though didn't they? It loses the real flavour of Patrick.
"I am a man, I have a piemel and piemels be hard."
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| WangChung
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:22 pm |
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Re: 2-3 grams of cocaine a day for 7 months
| gwen wrote: |
What a narcissist thug this guy is. Anyone who falls for his BS is absolutely clueless! |
I double up and roll around on the floor howling every time I watch the video of Beth's B-movie reactions to said bullshit. Why haven't casting directors and agents been beating down her door and begging her to move to Hollywood?
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| gwen
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:24 pm |
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Re: 2-3 grams of cocaine a day for 7 months
| WangChung wrote: |
I double up and roll around on the floor howling every time I watch the video of Beth's B-movie reactions to said bullshit. Why haven't casting directors and agents been beating down her door and begging her to move to Hollywood? |
I have to admit she did go overboard with her reactions, especially since I am sure she had already seen the video before... 
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| WangChung
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:26 pm |
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Re: 2-3 grams of cocaine a day for 7 months
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I have to admit she did go overboard with her reactions, especially since I am sure she had already seen the video before... |
I'm sure Beth was so anxious for her teevee appearance to be shown that she wanted to rip her new face off.
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| gwen
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:28 pm |
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Re: 2-3 grams of cocaine a day for 7 months
| WangChung wrote: |
I'm sure Beth was so anxious for her teevee appearance to be shown that she wanted to rip her new face off. |
Could be why she stated she wanted to rip Joran's off instead!
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| DiamondDot
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:29 pm |
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Re: 2-3 grams of cocaine a day for 7 months
| WangChung wrote: |
I double up and roll around on the floor howling every time I watch the video of Beth's B-movie reactions to said bullshit. Why haven't casting directors and agents been beating down her door and begging her to move to Hollywood? |
Wasn't it a hoot. Most likely, that was after hours and hours in front of a mirror rehearsing
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| iquitos
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van der eem played gangster
/www.trouw.nl/laatstenieuws/laatstenieuws/article1021800.ece/Patrick_van_der_Eem_speelde_een_gangster
Patrick van der Eem speelde een gangster
(Novum) - Patrick van der Eem gebruikte in de periode dat hij met Joran van der Sloot omging dagelijks twee tot drie gram cocaïne, maar hij was geen gangster. Van der Eem speelde slechts een crimineel. "Mijn verleden als drugsdealer hielp bij wel bij deze rol", zei hij dinsdag op een persconferentie.
Lees het artikel
Van der Eem ontlokte Joran van der Sloot bekentenissen voor het tv-programma van Peter R. de Vries. In het boek 'Overboord', dat woensdag verschijnt, doet hij uit de doeken hoe hij deze periode heeft beleefd. Hij snoof veel cocaïne in de periode dat hij met Van der Sloot omging. "Ik ben een addict, dat zal ik altijd blijven." Hij benadrukt dat Van der Sloot nooit onder invloed was van coke ten tijde van de opnamen.
Over zijn criminele verleden spreekt Van der Eem openlijk. Op zijn vijftiende dealde hij al heroïne en hij bezat een vuurwapen. "Maar dat is allemaal verleden tijd. Ik heb een goedlopend eigen bedrijf, ben vader van twee kinderen en heb al een paar weken niet meer gesnoven."
De reden om Van der Sloot erin te luizen was omdat hij het niet kon aanzien dat de goede naam van Aruba werd aangetast. Van der Eem wilde iets goeds doen voor het eiland waar hij opgroeide, en voor de moeder van de verdwenen Natalee Holloway. Aan het waarheidsgehalte van de verklaringen van Van der Sloot twijfelt hij geen seconde. Volgens Van der Eem heeft het OM nog een troef in handen, maar hij heeft er een hard hoofd in dat de zaak ooit nog wordt opgelost.
Van der Eem hoopt dat zijn boek een bestseller wordt. Hij wil bij Oprah Winfrey uitgenodigd worden, al zegt hij dat geld niet zijn drijfveer is. "Ik wilde in dit boek mijn ei kwijt." Als een journalist vraagt of hij een promotie-exemplaar mee mag nemen, zegt Van der Eem lachend: "Dat kost je vijftien euro."
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