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gwen PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:32 pm

Can't read that, IQ, but I see Oprah mentioned. How will he get on her show unless she tapes him from Holland as he cannot enter the US. Laughing
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WangChung PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:32 pm

Re: 2-3 grams of cocaine a day for 7 months

DiamondDot wrote:



yes

Wasn't it a hoot. Most likely, that was after hours and hours in front of a mirror rehearsing

Laughing Fit 1 Laughing Fit 1


It was a Big Hootie! The results of all that rehearsing indicate she should have done something more productive with the time - like sleep or eat Twinkies. Wink
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iquitos PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:36 pm

i'm not a gangster anymore

he stated and it was originally reported that patrik was armed during the op but he later denied that and schouten later "clarified".


Patrick van der Eem: ,,Ik ben geen gangster meer''
dinsdag 24 juni 2008 | 19:19 | Laatst bijgewerkt op: dinsdag 24 juni 2008 | 19:52


AMSTERDAM (ANP) - ,,Ik ben geen gangster meer. Na mijn eenentwintigste heb ik geen veroordelingen meer op mijn naam gekregen.''

Zie ook:
Dossier Natalee Holloway
Patrick van der Eem (35), de man die Joran van der Sloot voor het oog van de (verborgen) camera een uitvoerige bekentenis ontlokte in de zaak-Natalee Holloway, maakte dinsdag zijn opwachting in een zaaltje van een hotel in de Amsterdamse binnenstad om de verzamelde pers tekst en uitleg te geven over zijn boek 'Overboord'.
Of liever: over een interview dat hij eerder deze week gaf aan de Volkskrant. De krant publiceerde het vraaggesprek dinsdag. Van der Eem schildert zichzelf af als een cocaïneverslaafde, die ook ten tijde van de undercoveroperatie-Van der Sloot geregeld met een vuurwapen rondliep.
Dat is niet waar, verklaarde hij dinsdag in het Amsterdamse hotel. ,,Ik denk dat ik in dat interview bepaalde dingen niet duidelijk heb gemaakt, zoals over dat wapen. Dat had ik vijftien jaar geleden voor het laatst.'' Hoe de quote over het pistool dan toch in de krant terecht is gekomen, het lukte Van der Eem noch zijn perswoordvoerder Peter Schouten dit op te helderen. Ook al niet omdat Schouten toegaf dat hij het interview vóór publicatie heeft gelezen en een enkel amendement doorgevoerd wist te krijgen.

Van der Eem zei dinsdag dat hij ,,een paar weken geleden'' met het gebruiken van cocaïne is gestopt. Hij benadrukte herhaaldelijk dat hij nu leeft voor zijn gezin. En hij wil naar Amerika, zei hij, naar Oprah Winfrey, om daar de Amerikaanse versie van zijn boek, dat in september zal verschijnen, te promoten en te verhalen over hoe hij Joran van der Sloot aan de praat heeft gekregen. Embarassed


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iquitos PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:38 pm

gwen wrote:
Can't read that, IQ, but I see Oprah mentioned. How will he get on her show unless she tapes him from Holland as he cannot enter the US. Laughing


big hootie will get her angel a waiver like she got for jossy. sorry for the d-tch. i am putting it up for the dutch readers to parse.
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lin PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:40 pm

iquitos wrote:


i think even joran would draw the line at dissing his own dad. there is a big difference. and that is not what patrik was really after anyway. they were after a "confession". very possibly joran was onto them.


He dissed his own dad in his own words in the parts of the tapes that were aired, iquitos. Maybe he didn't implicate him in a crime but he certainly said awful things. I was actually pleasantly surprised to finally hear some good things said about Paulus by Joran.




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CherokeeKid PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:40 pm

Re: even if they call him a male whore?

iquitos wrote:
(with no dick) Question


It's a rag pager. Do people really believe what's written in that gossip paper? It's just some ugly rumors. Without any proof.

The only way to take action against that BS would be if Spong gets involved, IMO. Spong shut up their gossip traps before they even had a chance to open them!




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gwen PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:41 pm

iquitos wrote:


big hootie will get her angel a waiver like she got for jossy. sorry for the d-tch. i am putting it up for the dutch readers to parse.


Maybe, but she couldn't do it before when he came with De Vries. .

Curious to see what the dutch have to say. Wink
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lin PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:42 pm

Re: even if they call him a male whore?

Emily wrote:


Joran probably thinks it's funny. He'll get even more offers from girls who want to check out the package and see if he's really gay.


Only the girls that didn't see that naked Thailand pic. And I don't remember anyone saying he's gay; the allegation was bisexual, likely because he had male clients. Smile




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DiamondDot PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:42 pm

Re: 2-3 grams of cocaine a day for 7 months

WangChung wrote:


It was a Big Hootie! The results of all that rehearsing indicate she should have done something more productive with the time - like sleep or eat Twinkies. Wink


ROLFMAO

Who is Twinkies?
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lin PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:44 pm

sunmoonstars wrote:
Some new data from car ride 13-01-2008

Joran says that he did not have intercourse with Natalee.

Joran defends Natalee against the apparent claims that he she had been in a “kick-off clinic” or was on drugs that night. He says he has never seen proof of these rumors.


Joran lies to Patrick that the text message said “Thanks for the lift, see you tomorrow”. Patrick doesn’t fall for this.

Joran says that the friend who helped him wanted to go to the police. Joran didn’t want that. Then the friend called a third person and after that told Joran to go home and that everything would be arranged. Joran says that he though the friend called for a boat.

Joran says that in hindsight he should have just told what happened but didn’t know at that time how big it would become.


If Joran was going to lie to Patrick, why not lie about everything? Why not make Natalee look as bad as he can?

If he was bragging to look good, why not say they had sex and did drugs? Wouldn't that make him look more a man?


There you go trying to use that logic stuff again, sunmoonstars. Smile




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hemchi PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:45 pm

Re: even if they call him a male whore?

CherokeeKid wrote:


It's a rag paper. Do people really believe what's written in that gossip paper? It's just some ugly rumors. Without any proof.

The only way to take action against that BS would be if Spong gets involved, IMO. Spong shut up their gossip traps before they even had a chance to open them!


You think Spong should go after Gielen, Renfro?




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CherokeeKid PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:45 pm

DiamondDot wrote:


Beth STFU for a reason.

This book is not doing her any favors.

Beth's book is a POS. Doesn't even make it to Nancy Grace's preferred reading list. BTW.... Dave's book is there.

Patrick's book is a POS. SmileyCentral.com


I agree. Patrick's book will show what a "hero and angel" he is! puke

Interesting that only Dave's book is on NG's preferred reading list and not Beth Twitty. Well, her title shows already the lies: "Kinnapping..." and "the 'true' story"! Rolling Eyes

But then, I didn't like the title of Dave's book either "Corruption..." and didn't buy either of those books.


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lin PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:46 pm

Re: 2-3 grams of cocaine a day for 7 months

gwen wrote:


I have to admit she did go overboard with her reactions, especially since I am sure she had already seen the video before... Rolling Eyes


How do you know this?




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lin PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:49 pm

Re: even if they call him a male whore?

gwen wrote:


Get real...You don't honestly believe that pic was not altered..Don't be so freaking gullible! Rolling Eyes


Oh no, another photoshop theory...

Count me out on this one, please. I'll wake up the neighbors with the laughing. Smile




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iquitos PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:49 pm

sniffing Patrik

undermines evidence

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/4311697/_Snuivende_Patrick_ondermijnt_bewijs__.html?p=16,1

Snuivende Patrick ondermijnt bewijs
door onze verslaggevers
AMSTERDAM - Undercover Patrick van der Eem heeft een mogelijke strafzaak tegen Joran van der Sloot ernstig bemoeilijkt.

Foto: AB BLAUW


Hij heeft openlijk bekend dat hij tijdens de veelbesproken operatie in een Range Rover dagelijks harddrugs heeft gebruikt.

"Ik zat zeven maanden onder de cocaïne." Deze beelden werden uit het programma van Peter R. de Vries geknipt, zo verklaart hij maanden na de operatie. De Vries ontkent dat overigens pertinent. Ook bood de infiltrant Joran van der Sloot harddrugs aan, die deze ook daadwerkelijk gebruikte. Daarmee lijkt Jorans internationaal uitgezonden bekentenis dat hij verantwoordelijk is voor de verdwijning van de 18-jarige Natalee Holloway, nauwelijks nog als bewijs bruikbaar.

translation: These images were cut out of the program of Peter R. de Vries, he states months after the operation. De Vries denies it is pertinent. The infiltrator also offered joran harddrugs, which he indeed used. Thus it appears that Jorans internationally broadcast confession that he is responsilbe for the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, is not really useable as evidence.
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Black-Tulip PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:50 pm

Re: 2-3 grams of cocaine a day for 7 months

lin wrote:


How do you know this?


Common sense. Very Happy


Patrick is the joke of the day. The love between him and Peter de Vries is over.

A pity you can't read all the comments. Wink




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lin PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:50 pm

Re: 2-3 grams of cocaine a day for 7 months

gwen wrote:


GMAFB...There you go being gullible again...


You said you were sure she had already seen it. I'm just curious as to how you can be sure. Is it gullible to expect you to back up what you say?




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CherokeeKid PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:56 pm

Re: 2-3 grams of cocaine a day for 7 months

Black-Tulip wrote:


Common sense. Very Happy


Patrick is the joke of the day. The love between him and Peter de Vries is over.

A pity you can't read all the comments. Wink


Interesting! But not surprising!

I guess Patrick talked too much! Laughing

I would love to read all the comments! Could you please give a little example, BT? TIA




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hemchi PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:57 pm

Re: even if they call him a male whore?

CherokeeKid wrote:


Someone said there are no dumb questions. I guess that someone was wrong!


Mad Smile

Since Patrick has not mentioned Guido, and Guido did not leave Aruba "the day after"... the floor was open as to who you were speculating Spong would defend in this instance. imo




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iquitos PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:57 pm

a video of patrik's book

presentation: headline crook or genius? (de vies) was there too.

ttp://www.hartvannederland.nl/item/10090/Boekpresentatie_Patrick_van_der_Eem

he is getting good press but it is not positive. i guess even bad publicity sells books.


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Topsider PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:58 pm

Re: 2-3 grams of cocaine a day for 7 months

Black-Tulip wrote:


Common sense. Very Happy


Patrick is the joke of the day. The love between him and Peter de Vries is over.

A pity you can't read all the comments. Wink


What about the love between Jo V and everyone else. How's that working out Laughing




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CherokeeKid PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:01 pm

Re: even if they call him a male whore?

hemchi wrote:


Mad Smile

Since Patrick has not mentioned Guido, and Guido did not leave Aruba "the day after"... the floor was open as to who you were speculating Spong would defend in this instance. imo


I read Spong offered to represent Joran.

And Patrick is spreading the rumor in his oh so 'innocent' way...

Take it from there.




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iquitos PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:03 pm

van der eem gets half million

http://www.nrc.nl/media/article1142230.ece/Van_der_Eem_kreeg_half_miljoen_voor_operatie_Joran

this is a very serious paper.
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Black-Tulip PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:03 pm

Re: 2-3 grams of cocaine a day for 7 months

Topsider wrote:


What about the love between Jo V and everyone else. How's that working out Laughing


Jo V still loves you. Very Happy




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Emily PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:08 pm

Re: even if they call him a male whore?

lin wrote:


Only the girls that didn't see that naked Thailand pic. And I don't remember anyone saying he's gay; the allegation was bisexual, likely because he had male clients. Smile


Oh I am speaking of those who saw the pic! Not everyone has a closed mind and has decided one pic is all the evidence they need. Speaking of closed minds you didn't mean to say that Joran had male clients do you? As in it definitely happened? I thought you wanted to keep an open mind on that till we get the evidence, so far we have seen none at all.




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