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liesbeth
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Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:24 pm |
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Re: i don't think they will get the award
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| Black-Tulip
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Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:49 pm |
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Re: i don't think they will get the award
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It is not you business who I know and who I do not know.
That story I told you because you treat everybody as if they are stupid.
The story was this: This family member told me that they had such a good laugh because Joran's father was a judge in training, going into a casino to play with his minor sun.
I do not know how it is in other countries, but in Holland a judge is not supposed to support minors, going into the casino. Especially not if it is you own sun. That's all. |
Next time I'll make an exception for you.
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| Fashionista
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Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:51 pm |
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Take the poster vs. poster "issues" and the name calling to the Heated Exchange. PLZ!
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| billybob
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Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:57 pm |
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I doubt there will be an Emmy now, seems the big confession has gone "Poof," and it is now in the mud!
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| henk
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Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:06 pm |
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Re: i don't think they will get the award
| Black-Tulip wrote: |
Next time I'll make an exception for you. |
 
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| henk
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Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:28 pm |
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| billybob wrote: | | I doubt there will be an Emmy now, seems the big confession has gone "Poof," and it is now in the mud! |
I don't think it makes that much difference for the Emmy Award. 
Although I hope there will be no Emmy for Peter de Vries..
International Emmys
The International Academy of Television Arts & Sciences presents the International Emmy Award to the best television programs produced, and initially aired, outside the U.S. There are fourteen program categories for the International Emmy Awards: Arts Programming; Best Performance by an Actor; Best Performance by an Actress; Children & Young People; Comedy; Current Affairs; Documentary; Drama Series; Interactive Channel; Interactive Program; Interactive TV Service; News; Non-Scripted Entertainment; Telenovela; and TV Movie/Mini-Series.
The awards are presented at the International Emmy Awards Gala. Held each year in November at the Hilton Hotel, New York City, the Gala attracts over 1,200 television professionals, who gather to celebrate excellence in television and network with their peers.
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| iquitos
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Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:46 pm |
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it all starts with the
ridiculously presumptuous name:
The International Academy of Television Arts & Sciences
Nor is it international (except in that we are the center of the universe) and there is little if any art and no science involved. 
another oxymoron: television professionals. they are so full of themselves.
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| K_Meine
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Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:52 pm |
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| billybob wrote: | | More BS Liesbeth in regards to Joran's parents! |
Had you "known" the VDS's before this whole situation you're words may have held more merit. I think you've been a little too "Florence Nightingaled"
Your "relationship" with them has caused you much bias. Of course they are "nice" people. What other way would they have you think? John Wayne Gacy used to dress as a clown to entertain his neighbor kids but was still capable of doing unspeakable crimes. Come to mention it, he confessed as well.....................and no this is not a comparison of the two. Just a point that "good" people don't always do good things. 
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| Bubbles
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Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:30 pm |
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Re: it all starts with the
| iquitos wrote: | ridiculously presumptuous name:
The International Academy of Television Arts & Sciences
Nor is it international (except in that we are the center of the universe) and there is little if any art and no science involved.
another oxymoron: television professionals. they are so full of themselves. |
you got that right!
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| liesbeth
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:20 am |
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| GBMW
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:56 am |
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| liesbeth wrote: | | K_Meine wrote: |
Had you "known" the VDS's before this whole situation you're words may have held more merit. I think you've been a little too "Florence Nightingaled"
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I do not understand what Florence Nightingale has to do with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. 
I do not know if you understand Dutch, but Joran’s parents are making different suggestions into the direction of Natalee and her mother in the interview.
It is more than clear that Jorans parents were telling lies.
According to Joran, his parents were trying to collect a
”big fat compensation” and were hoping for an upgrade of the
” big fat compensation", by agreeing with the interview.
The fact that Hans Mos was telling in an interview that he was surprised about what Jorans parents told, because the files told different, speaks for itself.
The fact that the brothers are confused about Steve visiting Deepak at his work, with an impossible story, is speaking for itself.
The fact that the brothers independent from each other mention the visit of Steve over and over again in the statements, speaks for itself.
The fact that the brothers were ordered over to the VanderSloot’s after Joran’s mother arrived on the island, speaks for itself.
The fact that every time the brothers visited Joran, Joran’s father was around so they could not talk to Joran privately, speaks for itself.
The fact that Joran told the Kalpoe brothers that they could be blamed for the fact that something happened to Natalee, while his father stood there and said nothing, speaks for itself.
The fact that Deepak (a boy who comes from Suriname and had a normal job in an internet shop) sends an email for which a little more knowledge of the English language is needed than the way Deepak speaks Dutch, speaks for itself. Speaking English is something else than writing English.
The fact that in Deepak’s email mainly is spoken about things concerning Joran and his parents, speaks for itself.
The fact that the investigators released the Kalpoe brothers very soon in the beginning speaks for itself.
The fact that everybody was heard by the police, also the younger sister of the Kalpoe brothers, but not Valentijn, remains an unanswered question. |
I don't think you understood K_Meine's post? 
Or did I misunderstand? 
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| liesbeth
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:09 am |
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| GEL
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:17 am |
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The Kalpoe bros. didn't get dragged into this..they were there that night with Joran and they lied too.
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| Bongo
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:27 am |
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| liesbeth wrote: | | K_Meine wrote: |
Had you "known" the VDS's before this whole situation you're words may have held more merit. I think you've been a little too "Florence Nightingaled"
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I do not understand what Florence Nightingale has to do with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.
I do not know if you understand Dutch, but Joran’s parents are making different suggestions into the direction of Natalee and her mother in the interview.
It is more than clear that Jorans parents were telling lies.
According to Joran, his parents were trying to collect a
”big fat compensation” and were hoping for an upgrade of the
” big fat compensation", by agreeing with the interview.
The fact that Hans Mos was telling in an interview that he was surprised about what Jorans parents told, because the files told different, speaks for itself.
The fact that the brothers are confused about Steve visiting Deepak at his work, with an impossible story, is speaking for itself.
The fact that the brothers independent from each other mention the visit of Steve over and over again in the statements, speaks for itself.
The fact that the brothers were ordered over to the VanderSloot’s after Joran’s mother arrived on the island, speaks for itself.
The fact that every time the brothers visited Joran, Joran’s father was around so they could not talk to Joran privately, speaks for itself.
The fact that Joran told the Kalpoe brothers that they could be blamed for the fact that something happened to Natalee, while his father stood there and said nothing, speaks for itself.
The fact that Deepak (a boy who comes from Suriname and had a normal job in an internet shop) sends an email for which a little more knowledge of the English language is needed than the way Deepak speaks Dutch, speaks for itself. Speaking English is something else than writing English.
The fact that in Deepak’s email mainly is spoken about things concerning Joran and his parents, speaks for itself.
The fact that the investigators released the Kalpoe brothers very soon in the beginning speaks for itself.
The fact that everybody was heard by the police, also the younger sister of the Kalpoe brothers, but not Valentijn, remains an unanswered question. |
Your  is a waste of time and energy liesbeth! 
With your 'The fact that ... speaks for itself' you are neglecting, ignoring the fact that people look at the case from different angels and YOU are certainly not the one to dictate how ONE should interpret certain issues FGS!
BTW why yelling at K_Meine anyway? Has he done something wrong?
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| Black-Tulip
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:30 am |
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| liesbeth wrote: | @ GMBH,
At least I understood the Florence Nightingale sentence, I find that an attack. If Jorans parents knew what happened from the start and tried to dreg the Kalpoe brothers into this, I hope this gets clear one day.
Whether you have the money or not, nobody would like it to be dregged into the disappearance of a girl.
P.S.: there are a lot of posters on this board I do not understand.
It might be the language. |
It might be just you. Think about it.
The Florence Nightingale remark was meant for billybob. Not an attack at all, just a little sarcastic comment.
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| Bongo
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:34 am |
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| liesbeth wrote: | @ GMBH,
At least I understood the Florence Nightingale sentence, I find that an attack. If Jorans parents knew what happened from the start and tried to dreg the Kalpoe brothers into this, I hope this gets clear one day.
Whether you have the money or not, nobody would like it to be dregged into the disappearance of a girl.
P.S.: there are a lot of posters on this board I do not understand.
It might be the language. |
If you knew who Florence Nightingale was you would have felt in an instant the 'attack' [?] was not meant for you.. 
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| liesbeth
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:41 am |
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| liesbeth
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:47 am |
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| liesbeth
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:13 pm |
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| Black-Tulip
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:19 pm |
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| liesbeth wrote: |
No Black Tulip, it is not me. And it is not everybody except the VanderSloots.
I happen to know the Dutch language too.
If Joran told Freddy, Deepak and Satish, than he also told Daury, so Jorans higher powers knew also about it from the start. don't you think?
I think Joran's higher powers know even more, otherwise they would not have been able to help him out that well. |
Yes, it's you.
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| Bongo
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:20 pm |
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| liesbeth wrote: |
Those are facts and all the facts together give a pretty good few on how things happened. 
I am not dictating anybody anything, I am entitled to an opinion, just as you are.
And yes, according to me there is a very logical explanation for the first lie of the Kalpoe brothers.
Deepak's email and Steve's visit to Deepak's workplace tell a lot. |
Right, facts are facts! But YOUR 'facts' are not all facts SEC!
Some of your mentioned 'facts' do contain MISINFO, or at least they do not appear to be facts to ME; secondly, you are dictating for sure with your long list of 'The fact that ... speaks for itself' with which you are claiming how those facts 'give a view on how things happened..'
YOUR 'facts'.. 'give a view'? No, YOUR 'facts' do give YOU a view. Some of YOUR 'facts' do not give ME a view AT ALL!
BTW, IMO [bolded and large!]
sounds better in your case IMO
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| liesbeth
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:26 pm |
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| FloridaDoug
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:28 pm |
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| billybob wrote: | | I doubt there will be an Emmy now, seems the big confession has gone "Poof," and it is now in the mud! |
And rightly so -- with no other evidence to support the "confession" that is where it belongs.
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| Bongo
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:55 pm |
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| liesbeth wrote: |
It is my opinion about facts we can all find on the Internet.  |
I kindly recommend you to get some more insight in the legal concept of the word 'fact'. Makes more sense as OM/ COURT are judicial, legal institutions. They are certainly not looking for your internet facts..
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| liesbeth
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:09 pm |
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