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WordsofWisdom
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:05 pm |
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| Mallory wrote: |
Me, too! Why, I bet if I posted a link to that quote, it would make
just all the difference in the world, lol. Never has before. Why bother!
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Just tell us where he supposedly said it then......
No link?
No source?
Then its bullshit.
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| AC
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:08 pm |
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| WordsofWisdom wrote: |
Just tell us where he supposedly said it then......
No link?
No source?
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Does the word "insurance" ring a bell? No link or proof, but it still seems to be an agenda.
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| WordsofWisdom
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:16 pm |
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| AC wrote: |
Does the word "insurance" ring a bell? No link or proof, but it still seems to be an agenda. |
I asked a QUESTION.
"Mallory" is supposedly quoting Joran. (A Statement)
BIG DIFFERENCE, GRETA.... HUGE.
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| WordsofWisdom
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:19 pm |
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Mallory does exactly what Beth does.
Throws shit out there and hopes it sticks.
Nobody ever called Beth on it.
But I AM calling "Mallory" on it.
What is your source, Miss Mallory?
hmmmm?
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| iquitos
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:26 pm |
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| AC wrote: |
Does the word "insurance" ring a bell? No link or proof, but it still seems to be an agenda. |
you know how hard it is to find old stuff AC. some of us remember this from very early on!
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| WordsofWisdom
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:30 pm |
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| AC wrote: | | Does the word "insurance" ring a bell? No link or proof, but it still seems to be an agenda. |
So when LE looks to see if there is insurance on a victim, and who the benefactor is, they aren't looking for a motive, instead they have an "agenda"?
Do I have that right?
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| WordsofWisdom
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:34 pm |
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| iquitos wrote: | | you know how hard it is to find old stuff AC. some of us remember this from very early on! |
Even if we found the quote/video, what does it mean?
Nothing.
And it would mean Nothing because Dave is an insurance salesman and admitted he had one on his own child. That would be natural and normal (assuming, like I said, there is nothing funky about the amount, or the timing).
However, what WOULD be significant is if Beth, or anyone other than Dave, did have an insurance policy taken out on Natalee- EVER.
Why?
Because Beth denied it.
Its that simple.
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| Slickster
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:47 pm |
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| AC wrote: |
LOL....you are sooo bad!  |
Sorry AC,
weak moment.
Roll Tide Mountain Brook, Alabama!
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| AC
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:54 pm |
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Well, let's say Dave took out an insurance policy on his kids. Let's say Beth didn't, because at the time they were married and "they" had one already. So what!!! What is the big deal. I guess my question is, what are you implying? Are you implying that Beth wanted a death certificate because she wanted to cash it in since Natalee had passed AND how would she KNOW this? That is my point....the ASSUMING! I would expect that LE did check out insurance policies...but that is a guess. MY point is, like the posts I've read from you WOW is that you try to turn everything into some BIG conspiracy.....it seems EVERY post is that way. THAT is why I asked you for proof....not some quote from some poster...PROOF! It seems you do the same thing constantly that you accuse others of doing as well. Just today I saw a post, something about another poster being rude? Talk about the pot calling the kettle....
IQ, you know I respect you but for goodness sake....where is the common sense in some of these discussions.
I am very aware that there are many who STILL believe Joran had nothing to do with Natalee's disappearance....but blaming a family who was NOT EVEN on that ISLAND when she went missing is just out there to me.
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| iquitos
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:00 pm |
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i am just trying to track down the reason
why momma wanted a death certificate after two weeks during which natalee was kidnapped, held in a crack house for ransom to be spirited off the island on a medjet and then suddenly joran did it. he may have. but their early antics point elsewhere. and since they have not been able to nail it doesn't hurt to look at other scenarios, which i am sure everybody has but, since they don't share their stuff with me, i have to do my own thinking. the case in bonaire points out other possibilities too. i have always though it could be a mistaken identity kidnapping. laugh me off the board. it is possible and it looks like it might have happened just like that on bonaire. a death certificate after two weeks without a body? sounds to me like she was sending a message. to natalee. she initially said joran knows, not joran did anything.
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| AC
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:12 pm |
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Re: i am just trying to track down the reason
| iquitos wrote: | | why momma wanted a death certificate after two weeks during which natalee was kidnapped, held in a crack house for ransom to be spirited off the island on a medjet and then suddenly joran did it. he may have. but their early antics point elsewhere. and since they have not been able to nail it doesn't hurt to look at other scenarios, which i am sure everybody has but, since they don't share their stuff with me, i have to do my own thinking. the case in bonaire points out other possibilities too. i have always though it could be a mistaken identity kidnapping. laugh me off the board. it is possible and it looks like it might have happened just like that on bonaire. a death certificate after two weeks without a body? sounds to me like she was sending a message. to natalee. she initially said joran knows, not joran did anything. |
IQ....do you believe that Natalee got into the car with J2K? Do you believe that after that meeting, she was not seen again? Do you believe any portion of Joran's statement/confession to Vander Eem? Do you believe that Natalee's family (parents) were not on that island when she went missing?
I respect your opinions more than you will know, and I've been where you are now...looking at other scenarios and had done so for a long time. But, at this point, all that took a back seat once Joran spoke about Natalee shaking (the seizure)....because to my knowledge that fact was never brought out anywhere until he said so in that statement. This stuff just goes on and on with him... according to LE, every road keeps coming right back to him. THEY have the entire file, we do not....JMO.
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| Slickster
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:16 pm |
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Re: i am just trying to track down the reason
| iquitos wrote: | | why momma wanted a death certificate after two weeks during which natalee was kidnapped, held in a crack house for ransom to be spirited off the island on a medjet and then suddenly joran did it. he may have. but their early antics point elsewhere. and since they have not been able to nail it doesn't hurt to look at other scenarios, which i am sure everybody has but, since they don't share their stuff with me, i have to do my own thinking. the case in bonaire points out other possibilities too. i have always though it could be a mistaken identity kidnapping. laugh me off the board. it is possible and it looks like it might have happened just like that on bonaire. a death certificate after two weeks without a body? sounds to me like she was sending a message. to natalee. she initially said joran knows, not joran did anything. |
Maybe she was raped, after Joran left her on the beach!
By the jealous old boyfriend?
Thomas Allan Twitty?
The mysterious chaperone?
And then Natalee ran away!!!!
...ducking my head for the Twittyville derailment that is soon to come.
[watch it come]
Anywhere but Mountain Brook, Alabama!
Roll Tide!
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:19 pm |
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Re: i am just trying to track down the reason
| iquitos wrote: | | why momma wanted a death certificate after two weeks during which natalee was kidnapped, held in a crack house for ransom to be spirited off the island on a medjet and then suddenly joran did it. he may have. but their early antics point elsewhere. and since they have not been able to nail it doesn't hurt to look at other scenarios, which i am sure everybody has but, since they don't share their stuff with me, i have to do my own thinking. the case in bonaire points out other possibilities too. i have always though it could be a mistaken identity kidnapping. laugh me off the board. it is possible and it looks like it might have happened just like that on bonaire. a death certificate after two weeks without a body? sounds to me like she was sending a message. to natalee. she initially said joran knows, not joran did anything. |
What message do you think that she was sending and why?
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:21 pm |
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Re: i am just trying to track down the reason
| Slickster wrote: |
Maybe she was raped, after Joran left her on the beach!
By the jealous old boyfriend?
Thomas Allan Twitty?
The mysterious chaperone?
And then Natalee ran away!!!!
...ducking my head for the Twittyville derailment that is soon to come.
[watch it come]
Anywhere but Mountain Brook, Alabama!
Roll Tide!
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Joran told Patrick that no one would ever find her again.........he sounded confident.
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| WordsofWisdom
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:24 pm |
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| AC wrote: | Well, let's say Dave took out an insurance policy on his kids. Let's say Beth didn't, because at the time they were married and "they" had one already. So what!!! What is the big deal.
I guess my question is, what are you implying? Are you implying that Beth wanted a death certificate because she wanted to cash it in since Natalee had passed AND how would she KNOW this? That is my point....the ASSUMING!
I would expect that LE did check out insurance policies...but that is a guess. MY point is, like the posts I've read from you WOW is that you try to turn everything into some BIG conspiracy.....it seems EVERY post is that way.
THAT is why I asked you for proof....not some quote from some poster...PROOF! It seems you do the same thing constantly that you accuse others of doing as well. Just today I saw a post, something about another poster being rude? Talk about the pot calling the kettle....
IQ, you know I respect you but for goodness sake....where is the common sense in some of these discussions.
I am very aware that there are many who STILL believe Joran had nothing to do with Natalee's disappearance....but blaming a family who was NOT EVEN on that ISLAND when she went missing is just out there to me. |
The "Big Deal" is if there is an insurance policy-that Beth denied it.
Beth asked for a death certificate on June 10th.
You don't find that ridiculously absurd?
Especially given that since then she admitted to receiving a call from Natalee?
You HAVE to wonder why.
You HAVE to question that ridiculous request.
And you HAVE to ask, what would she gain from doing something as stupid as that.
Simple Human Nature and coincidentally a valid LE question. ALE was not allowed to investigate the family and the FBI rudely refused to do it for them.
As for proof, AC, how do I provide PROOF for a friggin QUESTION? TELL ME! HOW?
And you do NOT know who was on that Island.
All you KNOW is what you have been told by Beth and her minions. Beth lies. So where does that leave you?
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| AC
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:27 pm |
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| WordsofWisdom wrote: | | AC wrote: | Well, let's say Dave took out an insurance policy on his kids. Let's say Beth didn't, because at the time they were married and "they" had one already. So what!!! What is the big deal.
I guess my question is, what are you implying? Are you implying that Beth wanted a death certificate because she wanted to cash it in since Natalee had passed AND how would she KNOW this? That is my point....the ASSUMING!
I would expect that LE did check out insurance policies...but that is a guess. MY point is, like the posts I've read from you WOW is that you try to turn everything into some BIG conspiracy.....it seems EVERY post is that way.
THAT is why I asked you for proof....not some quote from some poster...PROOF! It seems you do the same thing constantly that you accuse others of doing as well. Just today I saw a post, something about another poster being rude? Talk about the pot calling the kettle....
IQ, you know I respect you but for goodness sake....where is the common sense in some of these discussions.
I am very aware that there are many who STILL believe Joran had nothing to do with Natalee's disappearance....but blaming a family who was NOT EVEN on that ISLAND when she went missing is just out there to me. |
The "Big Deal" is if there is an insurance policy-that Beth denied it.
Beth asked for a death certificate on June 10th.
You don't find that ridiculously absurd?
Especially given that since then she admitted to receiving a call from Natalee?
You HAVE to wonder why.
You HAVE to question that ridiculous request.
And you HAVE to ask, what would she gain from doing something as stupid as that.
Simple Human Nature and coincidentally a valid LE question. ALE was not allowed to investigate the family and the FBI rudely refused to do it for them.
As for proof, AC, how do I provide PROOF for a friggin QUESTION? TELL ME! HOW?
And you do NOT know who was on that Island.
All you KNOW is what you have been told by Beth and her minions. Beth lies. So where does that leave you? |
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:29 pm |
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| WordsofWisdom wrote: | | AC wrote: | Well, let's say Dave took out an insurance policy on his kids. Let's say Beth didn't, because at the time they were married and "they" had one already. So what!!! What is the big deal.
I guess my question is, what are you implying? Are you implying that Beth wanted a death certificate because she wanted to cash it in since Natalee had passed AND how would she KNOW this? That is my point....the ASSUMING!
I would expect that LE did check out insurance policies...but that is a guess. MY point is, like the posts I've read from you WOW is that you try to turn everything into some BIG conspiracy.....it seems EVERY post is that way.
THAT is why I asked you for proof....not some quote from some poster...PROOF! It seems you do the same thing constantly that you accuse others of doing as well. Just today I saw a post, something about another poster being rude? Talk about the pot calling the kettle....
IQ, you know I respect you but for goodness sake....where is the common sense in some of these discussions.
I am very aware that there are many who STILL believe Joran had nothing to do with Natalee's disappearance....but blaming a family who was NOT EVEN on that ISLAND when she went missing is just out there to me. |
The "Big Deal" is if there is an insurance policy-that Beth denied it.
Beth asked for a death certificate on June 10th.
You don't find that ridiculously absurd?
Especially given that since then she admitted to receiving a call from Natalee?
You HAVE to wonder why.
You HAVE to question that ridiculous request.
And you HAVE to ask, what would she gain from doing something as stupid as that.
Simple Human Nature and coincidentally a valid LE question. ALE was not allowed to investigate the family and the FBI rudely refused to do it for them.
As for proof, AC, how do I provide PROOF for a friggin QUESTION? TELL ME! HOW?
And you do NOT know who was on that Island.
All you KNOW is what you have been told by Beth and her minions. Beth lies. So where does that leave you? |
You were NOT on that Island either.
All you KNOW is what you have been told by Anita and her minions. Anita lies. So where does that leave you?
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| Slickster
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:31 pm |
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AC, surely you are not denying the death certificate?
Don't make me post those bananas ever again.
I detest them just as much as you do.
Let us bring back the purity of Roll Tide!
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| WordsofWisdom
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:31 pm |
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Typical response from you lately AC.
You certainly have it out for me, for some reason.
I asked about insurance and you want to know what proof I have.
That is the weirdest response I have gotten to date.
Honest to gawd, I really don't know HOW to provide proof of a question, when the question was asking for proof.
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| Slickster
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:32 pm |
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| resigned wrote: |
You were NOT on that Island either.
All you KNOW is what you have been told by Anita and her minions. Anita lies. So where does that leave you? |
How do you know what WordsofWisdom has been told and by whom?
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| AC
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:35 pm |
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| Slickster wrote: |
How do you know what WordsofWisdom has been told and by whom?
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Frankly, LMAO....I've never talked to Beth. Oh, well....so it goes!
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| WordsofWisdom
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:36 pm |
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| resigned wrote: | You were NOT on that Island either.
All you KNOW is what you have been told by Anita and her minions. Anita lies. So where does that leave you? |
lol
Now THAT is funny.
I don't even communicate with Anita OR her so-called "minions". (Anita lies?)
And I never claimed to know who was on that Island.
I don't know.
You don't know.
Thats the point.
Don't claim to know that Beth, or Jug, or Marcia, or Jar, or any one of those people, were, or were not, on that Island. Because you don't KNOW.
Thats the point.
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| sunmoonstars
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:37 pm |
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| WordsofWisdom wrote: |
Typical response from you lately AC.
You certainly have it out for me, for some reason.
I asked about insurance and you want to know what proof I have.
That is the weirdest response I have gotten to date.
Honest to gawd, I really don't know HOW to provide proof of a question, when the question was asking for proof. |
Wow, I have been told many times there was NO life insurance policy on Natalee.
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| WordsofWisdom
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:38 pm |
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| Slickster wrote: |
How do you know what WordsofWisdom has been told and by whom?
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OR if I was on the Island.
How would he know, anyway?
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| Slickster
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Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:39 pm |
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| sunmoonstars wrote: |
Wow, I have been told many times there was NO life insurance policy on Natalee. |
Link please......
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