| Prosecutor says that Van der Sloot obstructed investigation - Goto page Previous 1, 2, 3, 4 Next |
| View previous topic
:: View next topic |
liesbeth
 Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:38 am |
|
|
|
Re: Prosecutor says that Van der Sloot obstructed investigat
Last edited by liesbeth on Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:45 pm; edited 1 time in total
|
|
Joined: 05 Jul 2008
Posts: 908
|
|
|
 |
 |
 |
|
| billybob
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:45 am |
|
|
|
Re: Prosecutor says that Van der Sloot obstructed investigat
| liesbeth wrote: |
Karin Jansen had different thoughts about that.
And Paulus did not get his money because the OM went to higher court.
Cleared? |
Yes CLEARED!!! not getting money did not mean he was not cleared - give it a rest liesbeth!
|
|
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Posts: 2855
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| liesbeth
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:00 pm |
|
|
|
Re: Prosecutor says that Van der Sloot obstructed investigat
Last edited by liesbeth on Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:45 pm; edited 1 time in total
|
|
Joined: 05 Jul 2008
Posts: 908
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| enfant terrible
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:15 pm |
|
|
|
Re: Prosecutor says that Van der Sloot obstructed investigat
| liesbeth wrote: |
Billybob,
The OM (investigators) went to Higher Court to fight the sentence.
They did this with a reason. 
. |
| Quote: | "wrong"
"appeal the lower court's awarding of the compensation"
"Nothing more nothing less"
 |
|
|
***Deactivated: Pending Review***
Joined: 04 Jun 2008
Posts: 834
Location: Naughty Stool, Alabama
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| liesbeth
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:46 pm |
|
|
|
Last edited by liesbeth on Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:45 pm; edited 1 time in total
|
|
Joined: 05 Jul 2008
Posts: 908
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Sultan
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:59 pm |
|
|
|
Re: Prosecutor says that Van der Sloot obstructed investigat
| billybob wrote: |
Yes CLEARED!!! not getting money did not mean he was not cleared - give it a rest liesbeth! |
She can't she has some sick fantasy or obbession with Paul. I think she dreams of him sweating all over her while in the nude on a beach in Aurba!!!! I guess her fantasy is better if he's a bad man.
|
|
Swinging the Ladies
Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Posts: 2354
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| billybob
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:33 pm |
|
|
|
Re: Prosecutor says that Van der Sloot obstructed investigat
| Sultan wrote: |
She can't she has some sick fantasy or obbession with Paul. I think she dreams of him sweating all over her while in the nude on a beach in Aurba!!!! I guess her fantasy is better if he's a bad man. |
and this is a sick post
|
|
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Posts: 2855
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| liesbeth
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:51 pm |
|
|
|
Re: Prosecutor says that Van der Sloot obstructed investigat
Last edited by liesbeth on Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:46 pm; edited 1 time in total
|
|
Joined: 05 Jul 2008
Posts: 908
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| liesbeth
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:01 pm |
|
|
|
Last edited by liesbeth on Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:46 pm; edited 1 time in total
|
|
Joined: 05 Jul 2008
Posts: 908
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| henk
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:10 pm |
|
|
|
Re: Prosecutor says that Van der Sloot obstructed investigat
| liesbeth wrote: |
That's the way it works in Holland.
It is not allowed in Holland to arrest and lock up people with no reason.
Human rights, you know. |
Tell that to "de drie van Putten". How could you forget that one.. They were innocent and still 8 years in jail.. didn't they?? TUNNELVISION.. Your Peter rd Vries solved the case.. Well almost..
|
|
Joined: 25 Apr 2008
Posts: 814
Location: nederland
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| liesbeth
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:29 pm |
|
|
|
Re: Prosecutor says that Van der Sloot obstructed investigat
Last edited by liesbeth on Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:46 pm; edited 1 time in total
|
|
Joined: 05 Jul 2008
Posts: 908
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| K_Meine
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:36 pm |
|
|
|
Yet I guess lying doesn't obstruct the investigation at all.
|
|
Joined: 29 Jun 2006
Posts: 1656
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| enfant terrible
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:11 pm |
|
|
|
| liesbeth wrote: | But we were talking about this:
The OM (investigators) went to Higher Court to fight the sentence.
They did this with a reason. |
"Do you mean like this? " 
| Quote: | The OM (investigators) went to The US Department of Justice.
They did this with a reason. |
| Quote: | Greta:
Karin says to this Mrs Friedman of the Justice Department that there is no evidence of a crime...asks if Beth Twitty is related to Hitler.
Joe I have a copy of this letter that was sent October 31 from Karin Janssen to Mrs. Judith Friedman, Dept of Justice.
Joe
I looked at it, I've read it.
Greta:
What do you make of it?
"up to now no remains have been found, no technical evidence exists of any crime ...
why do you think the prosecutor is writing such a letter to the Justice Department?
JOe
They need help, this is late fall of 2005 and it's a real window into the state of their investigation. SOme of their theories, the chief pros says there's no evidence of Joran's involvement ... this is a terrific letter, it dispels rumours put out by the media...as recently as 12 hours ago one of the Holloways said Joran sexually assaulted her which is the furthest thing from the truth.
She says nothwithstanding what the media says, based on her investigation, none of the suspects has admitted any sexual assault.
Greta:
I had a converastion with Anita and Beth where they had graphic discussion about sexual activity...it wasn't sexual intercouse, but there was sexual contact, Beth Twitty was suggesting that because of alcohol she could not consent
Joe:
this letter talks about security guards, the group of students, this is not my words , not me...Karin is saying these things...
Greta:
It's bizarre on one of the pages, one of the things is the FBI wanted a certified copy of Natalee's year book and a question posed whether or not it is true that Beth is related to Hitler and whether the family went to Austria
Joe
there is a police report where a MB student said that Natalee had made a statement about it
Greta:
So what, why in the world is she asking the Justice Dept something like that?
Joe
I don't know, it shows the state of their investigation. they're looking at the speculation about the possiblity of an overdose. They're asking in this letter about that, phone calls from Twitty to Natalee
Greta:
]She's asking about the trip that Beth Twitty made while Natalee was in aruba, all the phone calls made and received from her phone line and cell phone
Joe
We have phone records that reflect something quite contrary to what she's been saying about calls to/from her daughter.
Greta:
Extraordinarily perplexing...why a certified copy of Natalee's year book?
Joe
they are looking into the prospect she's a runaway, the students had talked about it...it sounds like I'm throwing things out, but these are Karin's words, they ask did Natalee ever run away from home when did it happen, did she make plans to meet a boy in Aruba.
Greta:
AN extraordinary letter written in October. Thank you Joe |
|
|
***Deactivated: Pending Review***
Joined: 04 Jun 2008
Posts: 834
Location: Naughty Stool, Alabama
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| prolific
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:11 pm |
|
|
|
Re: Prosecutor says that Van der Sloot obstructed investigat
| liesbeth wrote: |
Peter R. de Vries always said the guys were innocent, and these guys are very glad that Peter R. de Vries continued making shows about this case.
But we were talking about this:
The OM (investigators) went to Higher Court to fight the sentence.
They did this with a reason.
The investigators could not prove Paulus was involved, they also were disabled to do their work probably, but they had reasons to arrest him. If they had no reasons to arrest Paulus, he would have been able to get his money.
That's the way it works in Holland.
It is not allowed in Holland to arrest and lock up people with no reason.
Human rights, you know. |
Oh good grief...is everyone that's arrested in Holland convicted? No one that's ever arrested is acquitted? Arrest always leads to guilty in Holland?
He didn't get the money because even though it turned afterwards that the reason for his initial arrest turned out not to be what they supected, his arrest wasn't illegal, so therefore tough noogies, no money for Paulus.
Ain't rocket science.
|
|
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
Posts: 9562
Location: Living happily in my "clueless" little world.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| resigned
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:12 pm |
|
|
|
I would like to see the Judges' rulings regarding some of the other suspect's detentions.
...and search warrants.
|
|
Click your heels together...
Joined: 14 Aug 2006
Posts: 28580
Location: "Onboard" pathenry's desk
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Heli
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:24 pm |
|
|
|
Re: Prosecutor says that Van der Sloot obstructed investigat
| billybob wrote: |
Why does't Liesbeth find and archives of all the old discussions some where so we do not have to rehash 3 year old BS again? |
Here, here!!
I think Liesbeth is an HMI BOT
|
|
Transcription Goddess
Joined: 23 Mar 2006
Posts: 23516
Location: Puffed Up DimWit
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Slickster
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:29 pm |
|
|
|
| enfant terrible wrote: |
Quote:
Greta:
Karin says to this Mrs Friedman of the Justice Department that there is no evidence of a crime...asks if Beth Twitty is related to Hitler.
Joe I have a copy of this letter that was sent October 31 from Karin Janssen to Mrs. Judith Friedman, Dept of Justice.
Joe
I looked at it, I've read it.
Greta:
What do you make of it?
"up to now no remains have been found, no technical evidence exists of any crime ...
why do you think the prosecutor is writing such a letter to the Justice Department?
JOe
They need help, this is late fall of 2005 and it's a real window into the state of their investigation. SOme of their theories, the chief pros says there's no evidence of Joran's involvement ... this is a terrific letter, it dispels rumours put out by the media...as recently as 12 hours ago one of the Holloways said Joran sexually assaulted her which is the furthest thing from the truth.
She says nothwithstanding what the media says, based on her investigation, none of the suspects has admitted any sexual assault.
Greta:
I had a converastion with Anita and Beth where they had graphic discussion about sexual activity...it wasn't sexual intercouse, but there was sexual contact, Beth Twitty was suggesting that because of alcohol she could not consent
Joe:
this letter talks about security guards, the group of students, this is not my words , not me...Karin is saying these things...
Greta:
It's bizarre on one of the pages, one of the things is the FBI wanted a certified copy of Natalee's year book and a question posed whether or not it is true that Beth is related to Hitler and whether the family went to Austria
Joe
there is a police report where a MB student said that Natalee had made a statement about it
Greta:
So what, why in the world is she asking the Justice Dept something like that?
Joe
I don't know, it shows the state of their investigation. they're looking at the speculation about the possiblity of an overdose. They're asking in this letter about that, phone calls from Twitty to Natalee
Greta:
She's asking about the trip that Beth Twitty made while Natalee was in aruba, all the phone calls made and received from her phone line and cell phone
Joe
We have phone records that reflect something quite contrary to what she's been saying about calls to/from her daughter.
Greta:
Extraordinarily perplexing...why a certified copy of Natalee's year book?
Joe
they are looking into the prospect she's a runaway, the students had talked about it...it sounds like I'm throwing things out, but these are Karin's words, they ask did Natalee ever run away from home when did it happen, did she make plans to meet a boy in Aruba.
Greta:
AN extraordinary letter written in October. Thank you Joe
|
The truth is out there.
And this will all be on the internet forever.
Yeee Hawwwwwww!
Roll Tide!
|
|
Joined: 29 Jun 2006
Posts: 1631
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Bongo
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:33 pm |
|
|
|
Re: Prosecutor says that Van der Sloot obstructed investigat
| prolific wrote: |
Oh good grief...is everyone that's arrested in Holland convicted? No one that's ever arrested is acquitted? Arrest always leads to guilty in Holland?
He didn't get the money because even though it turned afterwards that the reason for his initial arrest turned out not to be what they supected, his arrest wasn't illegal, so therefore tough noogies, no money for Paulus.
Ain't rocket science. |
In liesbeth's mind it does. Arrest = suspect = suspicious = guilt. Liesbeth is Dutch and liesbeth happens to be a professional regarding Aruban ['Dutch'] criminal law [Wetboek van Strafvordering], not only the content but even more re. philosophical perspective, principles, structure of substantive criminal law; criminal justice, criminal process; about punishment and sentencing.
She knows it all.
[Not]
|
|
Joined: 29 Mar 2008
Posts: 1153
Location: The Netherlands
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| billybob
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:09 pm |
|
|
|
Re: Prosecutor says that Van der Sloot obstructed investigat
| Heli wrote: |
Here, here!!
I think Liesbeth is an HMI BOT |
OH I forgot all about the "Bots" Yes I agree and it is about time she was put on IGNORE! the best way to deal with all BOTS!!!
|
|
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Posts: 2855
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| resigned
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:35 pm |
|
|
|
Like much of the case - insufficient evidence - as determined by an Aruban Court.
I wouldn't expect anything else.
|
|
Click your heels together...
Joined: 14 Aug 2006
Posts: 28580
Location: "Onboard" pathenry's desk
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Slickster
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:27 pm |
|
|
|
| resigned wrote: |
Like much of the case - insufficient evidence - as determined by an Aruban Court.
I wouldn't expect anything else. |
Only cuz the Mountain Brook BRATS and Chaperones hightailed their asses off the island to get into the USA so they wouldn't be made to talk.
Why have they never talked?
Why have we never heard who the chaperones were?
MB BRATS have disappeared back into their tiny little stepford wife kingdom.
Never to be heard from again.
Hiding behind mommy and daddy's money.
[don't make me post those old posts before the internet was laundered, MB likes to do laundry]
Those with nothing to hide, hide nothing. MB has lots to hide.
Roll Tide A.....
You fill in the A part of that, Im in a nice mood at the moment.
|
|
Joined: 29 Jun 2006
Posts: 1631
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| resigned
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:38 pm |
|
|
|
| Slickster wrote: |
Only cuz the Mountain Brook BRATS and Chaperones hightailed their asses off the island to get into the USA so they wouldn't be made to talk.
Why have they never talked?
Why have we never heard who the chaperones were?
MB BRATS have disappeared back into their tiny little stepford wife kingdom.
Never to be heard from again.
Hiding behind mommy and daddy's money.
[don't make me post those old posts before the internet was laundered, MB likes to do laundry]
Those with nothing to hide, hide nothing. MB has lots to hide.
Roll Tide A.....
You fill in the A part of that, Im in a nice mood at the moment.
|
I have no control over what you post....please take it to HE
|
|
Click your heels together...
Joined: 14 Aug 2006
Posts: 28580
Location: "Onboard" pathenry's desk
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Slickster
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:48 pm |
|
|
|
| resigned wrote: |
I have no control over what you post....please take it to HE |
Sorry resigned, my post was referencing, the 'insufficient evidence' part of your post.
It was not directed to you at all, just insufficient evidence and why there is insufficient evidence.
Cuz Mountain Brook has alot to hide.
Nothing more, nothing less.
|
|
Joined: 29 Jun 2006
Posts: 1631
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| resigned
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:00 pm |
|
|
|
| Slickster wrote: |
Sorry resigned, my post was referencing, the 'insufficient evidence' part of your post.
It was not directed to you at all, just insufficient evidence and why there is insufficient evidence.
Cuz Mountain Brook has alot to hide.
Nothing more, nothing less.
|
Show some of what Mountain Brook is hiding.....get the party started. Factual stuff - not just innuendo, please. TIA
|
|
Click your heels together...
Joined: 14 Aug 2006
Posts: 28580
Location: "Onboard" pathenry's desk
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Slickster
Posted:
Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:15 pm |
|
|
|
| resigned wrote: |
Show some of what Mountain Brook is hiding.....get the party started. Factual stuff - not just innuendo, please. TIA |
SHOW ME, some factual stuff on Joran!
This guy has been rung thru the wringer for 3 1/2 yrs and yet nothing sticks.
How about those Mountain Brook, Alabama BRATS, that hold their fingers to their mouth while mouthing the Shhhhhhush, word?
Meanwhile pointing fingers and wringing a teenager/Joran Van der Sloot, thru world wide news all the while Beth is describing her childs personal grooming habits and adding to it that she was drugged, gang raped, murdered, etc....etc....... for 3 1/2 yrs?
The only thing that WILL STICK in the end, is Mountain Brook, Alabama has ALOT to hide.
And, the Mountain Brook, Alabama lies, is on the internet forever!!!!!
Roll Tide Mountain Brook!!!!!!
|
|
Joined: 29 Jun 2006
Posts: 1631
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
