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Hannie
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Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:48 pm |
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Nothing an Exorcist couldn't remedy, Hannie 
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Oh yes I mixed up my caracters, this is Linda Blair right?, lol...I think I need some sleep... 
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| Schmerty
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Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:07 pm |
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I can only read picture books & two words at a time!!!   :rants
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| Obscuregawdess
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Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:45 pm |
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| Isanah wrote: |
OG is doing a thesis! |
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| Isanah
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Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:11 pm |
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| wvgirl
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Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:02 pm |
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| Isanah wrote: |
OG is doing a thesis! |
I've really appreciated her info. I admit sometimes I skim and get on with the thread, but more and more I'm convinced my daughter is a sociopath   So any info I can read, I will. Just maybe not at that moment. 
OG, do you mind if I copy and past this on a blog I have going on on myspace? My family is very concerned/interested too. Of everything I've read, she fits 85-90% of the characteristics. Then throw in the drugs and it's a bad scene all the way around. She has no children, and does not want any. She's totally cut all her family off (again). This time has been 2 months
Sorry for the o/t. This is case has taught me about a world (sociopathy) that I'd never considered/had any knowledge of before. I know we don't know if Casey is a socio/psychopath any more than I know my dd is, but it sure does fill in alot of the years of unanswered questions we've had about dd
So thanks OG for the info.
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| Isanah
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Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:22 pm |
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I have found it very interesting to read all of what OG has posted too. I can personally relate with several of the traits. Which kinds of weirds me out. I have problems in the workplace too is one of them. I'm in a predominantly women's atmosphere, and I kid that I have too much testosterone! Being a Yankee transplant in the South is my other excuse!
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| Isanah
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Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:24 pm |
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How old is your daughter WVgirl?
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| wvgirl
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Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:10 pm |
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| Isanah wrote: | | How old is your daughter WVgirl? |
Just turned 21 and from what I hear, is loving the club scene. Her drug abuse started at 15, we busted her at 16, (meth and anything she could put up her nose) She seemed to be doing pretty good until 18, at which time she flipped out and moved to another state. She's came back home when she got too far behind on bills or needed something. She floats from friend to friend house, very sexually active. But she is very abusive to me and her sister-- the ONLY 2 people she has ever had on her team. She's a user. I'm not being mean. It kills me to realize all of this stuff, but when she came home in May, begging for help, we thought it ws an answer to so many prayers. 3 months later she disappears in teh middle of the night, convinced we were out to get her, tired of everyone putting their nose in her business, which included an abortion that broke our hearts. 5 days after she left she had an abortion, which tore our hearts out. But this case has made me think that perhaps that was not such a bad choice. I jsut wished she'd let us adopt her/him  She was diagnosed bi-polar but then then the dr think there could be brain damage becasue of the recent xtc and meth use. It's heartbreaking. But she does not see she has a problem anymore. Any of the listed could cause her behavior I suppose, but the sociapathy seems too close for comfort. Regardless, she refuses treatment of anykind and I am the cause of her misery. I miss her, but I can honestly say I could not have withstood much more of the abuse she put out this summer.
Gotta get to bed, early day tomorrow. I envy those who have so much to be proud of with their children and for years have questioned what did I do wrong? She had a good life and was always cared for. I dunno, but if I think more about it tonight, it will be another sleepless night and this old body is tired.
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Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:23 pm |
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Wvgirl...I'm so sorry..
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| wvgirl
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:00 am |
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Thank you, pro. I'm sorry to have lost it on the open board. I remember how posters got sick of bham referring to her boys on the NH forum, so try not to share too much. But darnit it's hard sometimes when that's all you think of.
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| Isanah
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:07 am |
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| wvgirl wrote: |
Just turned 21 and from what I hear, is loving the club scene. Her drug abuse started at 15, we busted her at 16, (meth and anything she could put up her nose) She seemed to be doing pretty good until 18, at which time she flipped out and moved to another state. She's came back home when she got too far behind on bills or needed something. She floats from friend to friend house, very sexually active. But she is very abusive to me and her sister-- the ONLY 2 people she has ever had on her team. She's a user. I'm not being mean. It kills me to realize all of this stuff, but when she came home in May, begging for help, we thought it ws an answer to so many prayers. 3 months later she disappears in teh middle of the night, convinced we were out to get her, tired of everyone putting their nose in her business, which included an abortion that broke our hearts. 5 days after she left she had an abortion, which tore our hearts out. But this case has made me think that perhaps that was not such a bad choice. I jsut wished she'd let us adopt her/him She was diagnosed bi-polar but then then the dr think there could be brain damage becasue of the recent xtc and meth use. It's heartbreaking. But she does not see she has a problem anymore. Any of the listed could cause her behavior I suppose, but the sociapathy seems too close for comfort. Regardless, she refuses treatment of anykind and I am the cause of her misery. I miss her, but I can honestly say I could not have withstood much more of the abuse she put out this summer.
Gotta get to bed, early day tomorrow. I envy those who have so much to be proud of with their children and for years have questioned what did I do wrong? She had a good life and was always cared for. I dunno, but if I think more about it tonight, it will be another sleepless night and this old body is tired. |
I hope you sleep well. It has nothing to with you. Sometimes other influences just take over, some kind of escape from reality I suppose. More than likely she may be bipolar, you are probably reading too much into the sociopathy theories. Bipolar and drug addiction can come hand and hand.
If you do the best not to enable her that would be best for all concerned. Tough love is hard, but sometimes that's all someone has to preserve their other family members. Atleast she trusted you enough to even tell you about the abortion. Though not that you want to hear that, but it means she let you in. At least for a moment.
Keep the faith,
Isanah
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| wvgirl
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:30 am |
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Thanks, Isanah. I've said so many times the past year that tough love is biting me in the arse But, I'm not giving up. I will do as she wishes, for now, and leave her alone. I have found her new myspace page and keep a little bit of tabs on her She's been celebrating her birthday for two weeks. Went to an Alanis Morissette concert in Cincinnati. It seems from all outward appearances she's happy. Kinda pisses me off that she can be after how she treated me and her sister and then snuck off in the middle of the night, without so much as a goodbye, fu or anything. I just have to believe that "all things work for the good for those who love the Lord" and that she'll come out of it and we can all use this as a rare success story and help someone else out along the way. Ya never know
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| Schmerty
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:45 am |
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DON"T WORRY! BE HAPPY!
All I have now is Mocha ,my GSP. The most well adjusted loving, happy ,healthy dog in the world!!! I haven't seen my children or heard from them or my granddaughter for almost a decade. Life has never been so GOOOOODDDD!!! Count your blessings. No one has told me how dumb I am for .10yrs.My sweet DH & My doggie think I am the Cat's Meow!!! I pamper them & They pamper me! Having Children is costly & highly overated
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| Hannie
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:48 am |
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| wvgirl wrote: | | Thank you, pro. I'm sorry to have lost it on the open board. I remember how posters got sick of bham referring to her boys on the NH forum, so try not to share too much. But darnit it's hard sometimes when that's all you think of. |
Consider yourself hugged from overseas here! 
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| Schmerty
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:14 am |
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Consider yourself hugged from overseas here! |
Can I have a hug too? Mocha is great at Doggie kisses & licks, but her long legs can't do the hugs!!!
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| Obscuregawdess
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:17 am |
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I've really appreciated her info. I admit sometimes I skim and get on with the thread, but more and more I'm convinced my daughter is a sociopath So any info I can read, I will. Just maybe not at that moment.
OG, do you mind if I copy and past this on a blog I have going on on myspace? My family is very concerned/interested too. Of everything I've read, she fits 85-90% of the characteristics. Then throw in the drugs and it's a bad scene all the way around. She has no children, and does not want any. She's totally cut all her family off (again). This time has been 2 months
Sorry for the o/t. This is case has taught me about a world (sociopathy) that I'd never considered/had any knowledge of before. I know we don't know if Casey is a socio/psychopath any more than I know my dd is, but it sure does fill in alot of the years of unanswered questions we've had about dd
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No prob, WV, you're welcome. Copy away! *hugs* I truly believe that my father and his brother are. It's more common than I ever believed.
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| Hannie
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:37 am |
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Can I have a hug too? Mocha is great at Doggie kisses & licks, but her long legs can't do the hugs!!! |
Of course you can!
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| sarge
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:54 am |
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I read all your posts, OG, and It's amazing how Casey sounds like a female Scott Peterson.
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| Noor
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:18 am |
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| wvgirl wrote: | | Thank you, pro. I'm sorry to have lost it on the open board. I remember how posters got sick of bham referring to her boys on the NH forum, so try not to share too much. But darnit it's hard sometimes when that's all you think of. |
((((HUGS))))
Sometimes it just helps to write it down on these boards.
No way No how will I ever compare you to bham.
I'm sorry you are going through this, I can somehow relate with the crap Nicole is giving me.
I saw you were up till very early in the morning, try to get some rest.
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| Obscuregawdess
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:08 am |
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| sarge wrote: | | I read all your posts, OG, and It's amazing how Casey sounds like a female Scott Peterson. |
ITA!
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| sarge
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:21 am |
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I feel for all of you who are having trouble with your daughters and sons. Being a parent is very hard sometimes. No matter how old they are you still worry about them and when they are adults there is not much you can do anymore but try to support them when they are trying to do the right thing.
Tough love is the hardest.
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:03 am |
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| wvgirl wrote: | | Thank you, pro. I'm sorry to have lost it on the open board. I remember how posters got sick of bham referring to her boys on the NH forum, so try not to share too much. But darnit it's hard sometimes when that's all you think of. |
Don't ever be sorry....please don't ever feel bad for feeling the need to talk about it, we're always here to listen...I wish I had the right words to say to help you but we'll always have hugs for you when you need it.
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:05 am |
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Can I have a hug too? Mocha is great at Doggie kisses & licks, but her long legs can't do the hugs!!! |
Plenty of hugs to go around. 
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| Obscuregawdess
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:36 pm |
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The Effects of Untreated Postpartum Depression
When postpartum depression is diagnosed it is very essential to treat it immediately. What can happen when postpartum depression goes untreated? First and foremost, an attachment problem between mother and child can develop if postpartum depression goes untreated. Mother and child, not given the chance to bond properly, may be in store for significant problems down the road.
Postpartum depression is not an issue that will go away on its own and women who go untreated may find an increased sense of alienation developing between the baby and themselves. The mother may also have trouble being a good parent to her child. She may undergo times of irritableness, have less energy and show signs of lack of concentration.
These symptoms can cause her to feel guilty and question her ability of being a good mother. All of these can cause the mother to become withdrawn from her child and give the child an uneasy feeling of neglect. This will augment the depression and cause it to deepen and worsen.
In some cases, it is also seen where mothers have killed their children in one shape or form due to depression that has gone untreated. Studies say that postpartum depression can affect the baby by causing it to have language problems, emotional bonding issues and behavioral problems.
The baby will feel these affects first and then this will carry over into the family because it will become harder to raise the baby. All of this and more can be avoided with a little proactive attention.
http://www.aboutstressmanagement.com/stressrelief/
women-and-stress/stress-management-during-pregnancy/
the-effects-of-untreated-postpartum-depression.htm
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| Obscuregawdess
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:40 pm |
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Sometimes a pre-existing mental illness can be brought to the forefront through a postpartum depression.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postpartum_depression
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