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jenna
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Mon May 15, 2006 11:50 am |
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Question about using "noone" for "no one"
I had never really seen "noone" as one word as referring to "no one" until the Natalee Holloway case. Maybe in other parts of the US or world this is common but not where I live. I notice that it is contained in the Deepak e-mail. Google Natalee Holloway or Natalee and noone and you will get many hits. What is the opinion of this board on this subject? Is that common usage?
These first appeared on the scaredmonkey forum:
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=223 (link no longer works)
Dated June 5, 2005
How are you i hope you and your family is fine.(NAME DELETED) is better i tell you the truth , before it will be a shock for you later, but i think it will be a shock for you right now.
The missing girl natalee hollaway, I spoke to her , Sunday she left with me , my brother and a friend from Carlos n' Charlies , it was my car like the news said she got in to, I am one of the persons of intrest , i am one the the students they've questioned and released as they claimed in the news .
Let see where to start. I don't even know where to begin. These last days where so crazy for me i'm very tired haven't slept good in days : The story starts sunday night when a friend of mine was playing poker at a local casino (in the holiday inn) after he won the poker at the fourth place he decided to get up and play some blackjack so he went to the blackjack table and there was natalee (they were a lil drunk ) so my friend started playing blackjack and he was winning quite good , so then natalee approached him and introduced herself and said to him'' your a lucky guy , can you help me win some of my money back i lost $ 360 , of my fathers money'' so my friend said ok , why not . so he started playing and he won 100 $ for her back and he said hey thats the best i can do for you because i doubt it i can win more money for you so its better i quit so she said ok but at least let me buy you a drink so they went to the bar (in the casino ). so they took a drink and started talking etc. about school, the vacation etc.etc.afterwards my friend had to go and she said that ''today is my last day i will be in carlos n' charlies will you be there'' and my friend said well i have school tomorrow i don't think so . well she begged him and he still said yes i'll be there.
So that was in the casino i was not present , i was at work so my friend called me and said hey i met some girls in the casino and her friends and they want us to meet them in carlos tonight do you have to work tomorrow morning i said no , so he said pick me up later then i said ok. so i got off my shift at 10 pm and went home took a bath had to fix something and then me and my younger brother went to pick up my friend was around 12.10 am so i came to his home and was talked for like 15 min and then left to go to carlos (we all went out without or parents knew) so we arrived like 12.30 am in carlos (carlos is closing 1 pm ) and headed straight for the bar and bought 3 drinks my friend paid for them, so besides the bar there is a stage and people were dancing and there was natalee dancing too (thats the first time i saw her )and she was calling my friend to get on the stage and dance with her my friend laughed and refused so after the song was finished she came up to my friend and asked why he won't dance with her , i only heared that part because i was talking to someone else so i don't know what he responded(by then natalee was VERY drunk)so as i said i was talking to someone when i turned i had lost my brother , natalee and my friend. well they were announced that they were closing soon so i thought well maybe they' re waiting for me by the car its better i go there so i went to my car and nobody was there so i started playing music and was waiting on my brother and my friend.i waited for like 10 min and then i saw my brother stepping in the car and my friend who was with natalee. so i was surprised but anyways i started the engine and my brother was besides me and my friend and natalee were in the backseet so i started cruising in the area and asked my friend whats going on so natalee responded to me ''hey its no prob let us just drive around and have fun its my last night , she said you can drop me off later at holiday inn anyways right'' i said sure why not so as i was drove out of the carlos road and got on the mainroad there were natalees friends and she , pushed het head out of the window and screamed something i can't recall.so i was driving very slow to make a left to get in the next road and then one of natalees friend screamed for her to get out of the car , and she refused so then i stopped my car and i said natalee if your friends want you to go with them its better you go listen to them and go with them , she said no i will stay with you guys i will get a lift from you anways later, so she said bye to her friends and i drove away, so then we were just talking etc, in the car and then she said she wanted to see sharks ,it was by the lighthouse she saw them before that can we go , my friend said ok ,deepak lets go. so on my my to the lighthouse there was music playing and noone talking for a while when i looked in the backmirror my friend and natalee were kissing and touching (his hands etc was in her blouse but nothing nude or against natalees will ) so my brother siad just leave them for a while untill we get to the lighthouse, when i arrived at the lighthouse i said well here is the lighthouse they did not pay attention to me , so my brother said lets return (i did not stop anywhere not for a min only trafficlights) so after like 10 min my friend is telling me that natalee fell asleep i said you kidding just wake her up and tell ask her if its holiday inn for sure she is staying so my friend woke her up and confirmed with natalee she was staying at the holiday inn, so i drove to the lobby driveway of holiday inn and then we woke her up, she got out of the car and fell on the floor my friend said damn she fell and then rushed out of the same door natalee came out and picked her up immediately, after she stood up she pushed my friend and said leave me alone or something like that i can't recall , my friend offered to help het to her room she said no.
She he stepped in the car and while i was driving away i saw natalee walking towards the lobby and a gentleman with a walkie talkie and black clothes approached her and i think they were talking and i had never seen natalee again sinds.(holiday inn has no cameras in the driveway or lobby) it was around 2.15 am .monday i came to work normally 4- 11 pm after work i called my friend i said whats up he said ok i'm at the raddison casino meet me there , i said ok so i went there we played poker , we had some drinks and chat and then we had enough and decided that this casino was booring lets go to whyndham hotel casino . so i drove to whyndham and as i was parking my friends dad called him and said the police is at his home with some family members its about the girl you guys went out with yesterday , so my friend said wait there i be there, so we rushed at my friends home and there was the police and nataless family and it was a nightmare sinds then. the police asked us if we knew this girl showed us a picture we said yes thats her , they said she was missing and eyewitness say she was the last seen with you guys . so they asked a few more questions and we said we don't understand we left her at holiday inn lobby drive way how could she dissapear and then natalees stepfather jumped and said ''yes thats because after she went with you assholes she lost'' and then my friends father jumped and said thats enough you can't talk to the kids like that this is not the us your out of you juristiction this is not the way i want you people out of my yard i know the law (my friends father is e judge) so afterwards another family member of natalee suggested to the police if we can id the security gard we said ok. we went there there was no suck security working there as we discribed. so then we were just standing in the lobby there were questions etc. asked by other members , and then me and my friend walked to the car natalees mom was sitting and we said mam you have to believe us we did not do anything with you daughter, she was crying and said i don't believe you 2 , i promise you i will make you life a living hell because of this . anwyas we said we were sorry again ans that we will help in any way possible.i went home 7 pm tuesday, i was then called 2 pm by the police for questioning i went gave a statement they said i was a witness no suspect the same went for my brother and my friend they were questionded and had to sign their statement also , the checked my car and i was clear to go , wednesday i was called again to show them how i drove the route that day ( i could refuse was my right i still decided to go , as did my brother and friend ) the drove us one by one and then we were free to go again.thursday morning my friend called me (he goes to aruba international school and his mother is a teacher there and he is a straight A student ) in panic and said there a re family members here at school and they are sharing flyers and the flyers said : GIRL KIDNAPPED ASK JORAN VANDER SLOOT (thats my friends name ) the principle asked them to leave and they did .
so thats my part of the story yesterday and today it was quiet no treathen phoncalls what we got before and i won't mention the crazy things the newspapers etc. writes about us its to much to mention. at home my mom is losing it she is cryimg constantly , my dad blood pressure got high also his hands are red , my friends home is a disaster also, his mom is crying constantly also his dad is pretty cool he calmes us down and talks to us also not to worry , my brother is preety cool but on his face you see he is worried , my friend is pretty worried also.
i'm pretty worried also , we have 2 lawyers one for my friend and one for me in case we get arrested and charched with something his dad can't defend hin he is a judge and he is too emotional attached .my friend has his graduation this thursday he has to go to the states in july he has a full scholarship. i had to go to vacation also end of this month.many politicians find we should be locked up rightnow.We heard a lot of false alarms that she was dead , she was seen with 2 guys , her hair is cut and is red now ,she was in a crackhouse etc, we were arrested and , my car is by the police we confessed to murder and rape, she went in a restaurant to buy food but none of those were true.So (name deleted) that was my part of the story what i said here is the same in my statement,people are saying they are bad guys lock them up , the family is going thru a lot righnow , but what they don't know how the other families feel and how they also have a reputation and carreers etc. because when this all is over they will still be talks that were the 3 guys that had something to do with the kidnap of natalee its a small island.they don't understand the pressure we are having also, if this girl turns up dead we have a problem we were the last seen with her . I lost a lot of friends who think we had to do something with this, many of my friends supported us also brought food etc. for us at home and know we are innocent, we are innocent also we promise i would NEVER hurt anyone in anyway, i would do every everything to help find her thats what we told eveyone also , i would take a bullet to save her and bring her back to her family if i had to so would my friend also.i would never never hurt anyone i'm a very happy and social person who likes to make friends with people and not hurting them
So (NAME DELETED) i will say goodbye now hope you believe me and i pray to god that they find natalee soon and find her well so that this nightmare ends for all of us and they we prove we had nothing to do with this, i hope you pray for all of us say hi to everyone there hope to hear from you soon and may god bless.........
bye bye
Deepak.
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| Linny1125
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Mon May 15, 2006 12:08 pm |
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Based on what we now know -- there is no way this e-mail from Deepak can be anything other than someone else recapping what they believed to be the event's of the evening. The use of the word "noone" is pretty common in the south, at least.
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| writergal
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Mon May 15, 2006 12:09 pm |
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"No one" is the correct spelling/usage. Two separate words. British usage sometimes spells it as "no-one." But "noone" is incorrect from any standpoint.
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| sarge
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Mon May 15, 2006 12:15 pm |
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Jenna, don't you think that noone is just missing the space between no and one? I have thought the same thing about prolly for probably. Never saw that used before this case.
That is a very powerful e-mail and I wondered at the time if the person that Deepak was e-mailing was American and that was why he was using English instead of Spanish or the Papimento (sp).
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| portia
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Mon May 15, 2006 12:16 pm |
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Jenna,
I just got out my severely tattered Warriner's English Grammar and Composition (from high school) to check on this. As I thought, it is two separate words: no one.
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| SavannahStar
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Mon May 15, 2006 12:17 pm |
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| sarge wrote: | Jenna, don't you think that noone is just missing the space between no and one? I have thought the same thing about prolly for probably. Never saw tha used before this case.
That is a very powerful e-mail and I wondered at the time if the person that Deepak was e-mailing was American and that was why he was using English instead of Spanish or the Papimento (sp). |
I think it's just a matter of not knowing how to spell "no one" (that is the correct way)...same as some people spell "alot" when it should be "a lot".
I'm guilty of using "prolly" myself...but that is part and parcel of my posting style, abbreviations and stuff for on the internet only.
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| writergal
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Mon May 15, 2006 12:20 pm |
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And while we're on the subject:
"It's" means "it is."
"All right," not "alright."
Humph.
Love, Grumpygal
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| Isanah
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Mon May 15, 2006 12:24 pm |
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My peeve is RECEIVED, I before E, except after C (usually, there are a few exceptions!)  Though I admit I am not the best in the spelling of many other words, in fact, I seem to get worse the more I post! 
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| charlierat
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Mon May 15, 2006 12:25 pm |
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| writergal wrote: | And while we're on the subject:
"It's" means "it is."
"All right," not "alright."
Humph.
Love, Grumpygal |
Don't get me started on "there, their and they're" or "your and you're." And am I correct in putting my period inside the quotes in the above sentence?
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| RatPatrol
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Mon May 15, 2006 12:26 pm |
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| writergal wrote: | And while we're on the subject:
"It's" means "it is."
"All right," not "alright."
Humph.
Love, Grumpygal |
OMG, a grammar thread.
Would love to have some feedback on the propriety of "due to".
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| DiamondDot
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Mon May 15, 2006 12:28 pm |
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| writergal wrote: | | "No one" is the correct spelling/usage. Two separate words. British usage sometimes spells it as "no-one." But "noone" is incorrect from any standpoint. |
Way back in the olden days, I was taught it was one word.
I prefer to use no one
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| writergal
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Mon May 15, 2006 12:29 pm |
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| charlierat wrote: | | writergal wrote: | And while we're on the subject:
"It's" means "it is."
"All right," not "alright."
Humph.
Love, Grumpygal |
Don't get me started on "there, their and they're" or "your and you're." And am I correct in putting my period inside the quotes in the above sentence? |
Yes, although very often discrete phrases retain the quote marks within the period. This is a long-running argument, and it's actually a good one.
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| Pooky
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Mon May 15, 2006 12:29 pm |
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I never noticed anyone using the noone. I use no one, or none. 
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| Pooky
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Mon May 15, 2006 12:30 pm |
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| writergal wrote: | | charlierat wrote: | | writergal wrote: | And while we're on the subject:
"It's" means "it is."
"All right," not "alright."
Humph.
Love, Grumpygal |
Don't get me started on "there, their and they're" or "your and you're." And am I correct in putting my period inside the quotes in the above sentence? |
Yes, although very often discrete phrases retain the quote marks within the period. This is a long-running argument, and it's actually a good one. |
Or my Ex's favorite... the "to, two and too".
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| DiamondDot
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Mon May 15, 2006 12:31 pm |
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| writergal wrote: |
Yes, although very often discrete phrases retain the quote marks within the period. This is a long-running argument, and it's actually a good one. |
I know the difference, but sometimes get so caught up in the idea of what I'm saying, the incorrect one is used.
Please consider it poetic license and ignore it.
If this site turns into the grammar/spelling police site, I might as well be at CTV or one of those self-serving bitch blogs.
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| writergal
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Mon May 15, 2006 12:33 pm |
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| RatPatrol wrote: | | writergal wrote: | And while we're on the subject:
"It's" means "it is."
"All right," not "alright."
Humph.
Love, Grumpygal |
OMG, a grammar thread.
Would love to have some feedback on the propriety of "due to".
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There's nothing grammatically wrong with the phrase. Many linguists dislike it because it adds unnecessary freight to a sentence, as in:
"He was late due to the fact that he overslept."
Compare that to:
"He was late because he overslept."
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| Hannie
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Mon May 15, 2006 12:33 pm |
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I like this, it`s great for my spelling! 
And sarge, as far as I know, this email was sent by Deepak to an (older)american female friend of his, who was/is corresponding with him alot ( a lot, lol), and got to know her because she visited Aruba before this case. IIRC, this woman was a collegue of WonderWoman and that`s why WW got her hands on this email.
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| jenna
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Mon May 15, 2006 12:34 pm |
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| portia wrote: | Jenna,
I just got out my severely tattered Warriner's English Grammar and Composition (from high school) to check on this. As I thought, it is two separate words: no one. |
I looked it up also. I did not mean this as a grammar thread per se. Word usage can be very revealing--as to who wrote or where the writer lives. I have just seen "noone" in many posts regarding Natalee Holloway. Does this mean that "noone" belongs to a particular generation.
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| writergal
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Mon May 15, 2006 12:36 pm |
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| DiamondDot wrote: | | writergal wrote: |
Yes, although very often discrete phrases retain the quote marks within the period. This is a long-running argument, and it's actually a good one. |
I know the difference, but sometimes get so caught up in the idea of what I'm saying, the incorrect one is used.
Please consider it poetic license and ignore it.
If this site turns into the grammar/spelling police site, I might as well be at CTV or one of those self-serving bitch blogs. |
Yes, let's make this a police-free zone. But English usage is an interesting subject. A lot of the rules are arbitrary. There's no logical reason why we shouldn't split infinitives. But we don't, because we follow Latin grammar in that respect.
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| Fiery
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Mon May 15, 2006 12:43 pm |
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I do it all the time, use noone but I think it is because I'm too lazy to go back and correct. Sorry if it bothers everyone I will try and be gramatically correct in the future.
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| DiamondDot
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Mon May 15, 2006 12:54 pm |
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| Fiery wrote: | | I do it all the time, use noone but I think it is because I'm too lazy to go back and correct. Sorry if it bothers everyone I will try and be gramatically correct in the future. |
Fiery, I am an American, born and bred.
I'm embarrassed to say so, but only read/write/speak English. You and everyone else who take the initiative to communicate in any language other than your Mother tongue are to be commended.
Kudos to you.
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| Trixie
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Mon May 15, 2006 12:58 pm |
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| jenna wrote: | | portia wrote: | Jenna,
I just got out my severely tattered Warriner's English Grammar and Composition (from high school) to check on this. As I thought, it is two separate words: no one. |
I looked it up also. I did not mean this as a grammar thread per se. Word usage can be very revealing--as to who wrote or where the writer lives. I just seen "noone" in many posts regarding Natalee Holloway. Does this mean that "noone" belongs to a particular generation. |
 I thought it was just me that had noticed the "noone". It's not a Southern thing. I have never seen no one written as "noone" before this case, but I do see it in many posts here. I even looked it up thinking that perhaps this was "New English" I was not aware of just like that darn "New Math" that appeared out of nowhere. Then, I thought perhaps noone was used by posters was different parts of the world. Now I have no idea. I have lived in the South all my life and have never seen the word "noone". I am glad it wasn't just me that was curious about the word. 
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| Hannah
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Mon May 15, 2006 1:10 pm |
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This is a neat little browser plug in for IE that will check your spelling. Very small and has kept me from embarrassing myself several times.
http://www.download.com/IESpell/3003-12512_4-10357976.html?tag=lst-0-1
Spelling checkers keep those of us who never won a spelling bee from looking like high-school dropouts. IESpell's spelling checker for Microsoft Internet Explorer provides a safety net for interactive message boards and Web-based e-mail. We found it unobtrusive, convenient, accurate, and fast. When you want to check your spelling, activate the program from the Tools menu, the toolbar button, or the right-click menu. The intuitive interface resembles that of any other spelling checker, with options for adding words to its dictionary and for ignoring URLs and e-mail addresses. It also provides a direct link to the online Merriam-Webster dictionary, giving you the opportunity to expand your vocabulary as you work. Though we wish IESpell could have fixed punctuation errors and checked our spelling as we typed, we were happy it detected all our misspelled words and offered spelling suggestions. This is a great free tool for the orthographically challenged.
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| Maybelline
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Mon May 15, 2006 1:22 pm |
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| HannieC wrote: | I like this, it`s great for my spelling!
And sarge, as far as I know, this email was sent by Deepak to an (older)american female friend of his, who was/is corresponding with him alot ( a lot, lol), and got to know her because she visited Aruba before this case. IIRC, this woman was a collegue of WonderWoman and that`s why WW got her hands on this email. |
I remember when WonderWoman first posted that on SM. I miss WW. She was one of the first to poke jabs at SM posters who just "knew" that J2K were guilty. And she did it with such humor. I think I remember she made an appearance here briefly in the beginning of this forum. She was very witty!
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| Dilbart
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ah, a grammar threat, I love it
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