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iquitos
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:44 pm |
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why the black dot over his
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| luvslalom
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:17 pm |
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Re: why the black dot over his
That's being kind. The black dot is large. 
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| Linda in L.A.
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:51 am |
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Re: 3 days....
| Slickster wrote: |
1. reported missing Monday
[1 day]
2. The Alabamy Posse flies in Monday which rolls over to early Tuesday, the boys id'd.
[2 days]
3. Those boys go in Tuesday to give a statement.
4. Wednesday, start monitoring them
[3 days]
Where exactly in that should ALE been monitoring them any sooner?
They were already all over them.
Meanwhile.... the Alabamy Posse is everywhere making their own tracks on who and what they want monitored.
Thomas Twitty lawyers up.
It's all good for the good ol boys of Mountain Brook, Alabamy.
And......
Francess Ellen Byrd. 
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Dompig says they were monitored after 3 days of Natalee being reported missing. Day 1...understandable I suppose they wouldn't monitor JK2 because they didn't believe Natalee wasn't just partying.
Day 2...Beth arrived and the police went with her to Joran's home. That was at night...so understandable I suppose they couldn't legally begin a surveillance on JK2.
Day 3...what the heck happened? Dompg says after the 3rd day. Did ALE bother in the first 3 days to try to find any evidence on the beach? This is a question...I don't know the answer...but I don't remember hearing they did.
Did they "ask" Paulus if they could look in the house for Natalee? Did they "ask" if they could check out Deepak's car? Not sure of the laws on Aruba...more than likely they would need a court order to force the issues...but did they ask?
Why did it take Beth to go to the casino and find out who Natalee was with? Why didn't the police do that the first day Natalee was reported missing? If not the first day...why not the next day? Even so...ALE went with the group not in an official capacity apparently...but more in a peacekeeping capacity. Why?
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| cajun_mali
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:32 am |
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Re: Has all the evidence been leaked out and seen already?
| K_Meine wrote: |
No, I think you take offense to others not being in total agreement with you to personally. The only thing I peddle is my bike. I just have some varying views than yours and that is completely alright. This isn't about being right or wrong.
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| Gregor
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:41 am |
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Re: Has all the evidence been leaked out and seen already?
| cajun_mali wrote: | Did Patrick give ALE just what we saw? The rest was disposed of? Did they learn from Skeeters?
And the little thing from Holland with J and the 2 cops shown to the world.
I think we know EVERYTHING ALE knows. |
I believe we've seen all the evidence ALE has that Joran was involved in the commission of a crime, which is zero, but I also believe ALE believed shortly after the posse arrived that here was some scam involved in this incident.
Unfortunately, they don't have the authority to investigate this scam wherever they want, however they want, but they've continued to investigate it without releasing any evidence at all.
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| cajun_mali
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:55 am |
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Re: Has all the evidence been leaked out and seen already?
| Gregor wrote: |
I believe we've seen all the evidence ALE has that Joran was involved in the commission of a crime, which is zero, but I also believe ALE believed shortly after the posse arrived that here was some scam involved in this incident.
Unfortunately, they don't have the authority to investigate this scam wherever they want, however they want, but they've continued to investigate it without releasing any evidence at all. |
I think Beth got those unsigned "statements" from ALE, not Jossy.
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| K_Meine
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:42 am |
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| cajun_mali wrote: |
I guess that means you don't believe Dompig again. |
I went back through my statements and couldn't find Dompig mentioned anywhere. You do realize the Vulcan mind meld could only be performed by Spock but nice try anyway. And on the contrary IMO that bit of information probably came from someone on the States side.
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| K_Meine
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:54 am |
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Re: Has all the evidence been leaked out and seen already?
| Gregor wrote: |
I believe we've seen all the evidence ALE has that Joran was involved in the commission of a crime, which is zero, but I also believe ALE believed shortly after the posse arrived that here was some scam involved in this incident.
Unfortunately, they don't have the authority to investigate this scam wherever they want, however they want, but they've continued to investigate it without releasing any evidence at all. |
I would be interested in knowing how you would know what the ALE was believing at that time and even more so how the arrival of family and friends of a missing person would cultivate feelings that some sort of scam was developing. Please explain. Thank you. 
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| K_Meine
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:55 am |
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Re: Has all the evidence been leaked out and seen already?
| cajun_mali wrote: |
I think Beth got those unsigned "statements" from ALE, not Jossy. |
Whatever happened to all those statements anyway?
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| luvslalom
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:16 pm |
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Re: Has all the evidence been leaked out and seen already?
| Gregor wrote: |
I believe we've seen all the evidence ALE has that Joran was involved in the commission of a crime, which is zero, but I also believe ALE believed shortly after the posse arrived that here was some scam involved in this incident.
Unfortunately, they don't have the authority to investigate this scam wherever they want, however they want, but they've continued to investigate it without releasing any evidence at all. |
Well according to someone who knows the esteemed family of VDS, it's a good thing the other statements didn't get publisized.
And NO, we don't know everything ALE knows, for sure not. At least hopefully they didn't leak all that out to certain wannabe press people, like they don't do as we were told.
They must have kept a few secrets in case there's a trial, something they surely don't want, but how else will Joran be off suspect status? Going on 5 years is a long time for suspect status if there's no crime and nothing has been done wrong.
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| cajun_mali
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:46 pm |
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Re: 3 days....
| Linda in L.A. wrote: |
Dompig says they were monitored after 3 days of Natalee being reported missing. Day 1...understandable I suppose they wouldn't monitor JK2 because they didn't believe Natalee wasn't just partying.
Day 2...Beth arrived and the police went with her to Joran's home. That was at night...so understandable I suppose they couldn't legally begin a surveillance on JK2.
Day 3...what the heck happened? Dompg says after the 3rd day. Did ALE bother in the first 3 days to try to find any evidence on the beach? This is a question...I don't know the answer...but I don't remember hearing they did.
Did they "ask" Paulus if they could look in the house for Natalee? Did they "ask" if they could check out Deepak's car? Not sure of the laws on Aruba...more than likely they would need a court order to force the issues...but did they ask?
Why did it take Beth to go to the casino and find out who Natalee was with? Why didn't the police do that the first day Natalee was reported missing? If not the first day...why not the next day? Even so...ALE went with the group not in an official capacity apparently...but more in a peacekeeping capacity. Why? |
Which days did they "clean up"?
J&D were out partying the Tues Night, Joran was in school the next day when you seem to assume ALE was watching.
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| iquitos
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:15 pm |
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by the night of the first day the vigilante
force had arrived. joran, deepak and every other hoodlum in town was tipped off. anybody who had anything to do with natalee's disappearance was on notice. joran was at the police the next day for questioning. he would have been a fool to try anything once he was fingered by the posse. i bet joran's presence at the casinos that monday night was registered by security cameras too. so when do he do the clean up?
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| K_Meine
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:32 pm |
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Re: by the night of the first day the vigilante
| iquitos wrote: | | force had arrived. joran, deepak and every other hoodlum in town was tipped off. anybody who had anything to do with natalee's disappearance was on notice. joran was at the police the next day for questioning. he would have been a fool to try anything once he was fingered by the posse. i bet joran's presence at the casinos that monday night was registered by security cameras too. so when do he do the clean up? |
Being foolish has never stopped Joran from eluding responsibility before. Suffice it to say that if he had buddies who would dump a body for him or try to jump on the grenade like Steve Croes did. I'm sure he could find someone to help him with his Natalee problem. I'd bet there is at minimum two people currently residing on the island of Aruba that know exactly what became of Natalee and have zero interest in ever coming forward.
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| Black-Tulip
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:58 pm |
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Re: by the night of the first day the vigilante
| K_Meine wrote: |
Being foolish has never stopped Joran from eluding responsibility before. Suffice it to say that if he had buddies who would dump a body for him or try to jump on the grenade like Steve Croes did. I'm sure he could find someone to help him with his Natalee problem. I'd bet there is at minimum two people currently residing on the island of Aruba that know exactly what became of Natalee and have zero interest in ever coming forward. |
Good buddies if you consider the reward. How much was it again?
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| Gregor
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:10 pm |
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Re: Has all the evidence been leaked out and seen already?
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I would be interested in knowing how you would know what the ALE was believing at that time and even more so how the arrival of family and friends of a missing person would cultivate feelings that some sort of scam was developing. Please explain. Thank you. :shock: |
I didn't say I know, I said, "I believe."
I've only followed this case and the Scott Peterson case, so I may not be as familiar with missing persons cases as many of you are, but many, many "tourists" go missing from party spots in the U.S., and I don't remember any other family gathering together a posse and flying thousands of miles to find a teenager who was known to be "missing" for four five hours.
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| luvslalom
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:13 pm |
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Re: by the night of the first day the vigilante
| iquitos wrote: | | force had arrived. joran, deepak and every other hoodlum in town was tipped off. anybody who had anything to do with natalee's disappearance was on notice. joran was at the police the next day for questioning. he would have been a fool to try anything once he was fingered by the posse. i bet joran's presence at the casinos that monday night was registered by security cameras too. so when do he do the clean up? |
He even said that is what he was trying to establish...a presence on cameras.
Yet in the week that followed, he spent alot of time coaching Deepak and Satish, according to his own words...the routes they took while leaving CnC's with Natalee...a route that had the least amount or no cameras, remember that?
Lots of meetings called that week, somewhat unusual for suspects.
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| Gregor
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:17 pm |
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Re: Has all the evidence been leaked out and seen already?
| luvslalom wrote: |
Well according to someone who knows the esteemed family of VDS, it's a good thing the other statements didn't get publisized.
And NO, we don't know everything ALE knows, for sure not. At least hopefully they didn't leak all that out to certain wannabe press people, like they don't do as we were told.
They must have kept a few secrets in case there's a trial, something they surely don't want, but how else will Joran be off suspect status? Going on 5 years is a long time for suspect status if there's no crime and nothing has been done wrong. |
I didn't mention anything about any statements, so I assume you're referring to someone else's post.
Exactly how is being the "prime suspect" affecting Joran?
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| Glenda
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:19 pm |
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There is circumstantial evidence that has not been leaked  Well, kind of.
Bottom line is there is no evidence of a crime, that I'm sure of, then again, that would be leaking.
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| luvslalom
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:22 pm |
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Re: Has all the evidence been leaked out and seen already?
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I didn't mention anything about any statements, so I assume you're referring to someone else's post.
Exactly how is being the "prime suspect" affecting Joran? |
You're absolutely right! He is not affected b/c he has been and always will be above the law!
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| Glenda
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:34 pm |
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Re: Has all the evidence been leaked out and seen already?
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You're absolutely right! He is not affected b/c he has been and always will be above the law! |
Nobody is above the law, the last being Joran.... So give it up, if there was something on him other than the made up chit, which includes the chit he says also, he'd be in Jail. Jossy's government is in Power right now, there is no way in hell that he'd let this fly. The silence is deafening.
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| WangChung
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:40 pm |
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Re: Has all the evidence been leaked out and seen already?
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Nobody is above the law, the last being Joran.... So give it up, if there was something on him other than the made up chit, which includes the chit he says also, he'd be in Jail. Jossy's government is in Power right now, there is no way in hell that he'd let this fly. The silence is deafening. |
You mean the same Jossy who now has access to ALL of the ALE files and would love nothing more than to crucify Joran? You mean Beth's friend Jossy? The same Jossy behind most of the manufactured evidence in this case? WOW!! It sure is quiet!
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| cajun_mali
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:46 pm |
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Did Jossy get his stuff from Beth?
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| Glenda
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:47 pm |
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| cajun_mali wrote: | | Did Jossy get his stuff from Beth? |
No, I don't think so, the other way around.
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| cajun_mali
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:49 pm |
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| Glenda wrote: |
No, I don't think so, the other way around. |
Nope. Can't be! I already posted that as my official theory! Get with the program, girl!
Dom said they worked with Beth and it all got leaked to the press. I think it was Beth.
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| Glenda
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:54 pm |
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| cajun_mali wrote: |
Nope. Can't be! I already posted that as my official theory! Get with the program, girl!
Dom said they worked with Beth and it all got leaked to the press. I think it was Beth. |
Ok, Jossy got his wool pulled...
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