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OT New Case. Clemson. Possible serial killer?
The murder of Tiffany Sauers, strangled with a string bikini, may actually be connected to two other unsolved murders by strangulation.
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| Quote: | Police Look for Link Between Tiffany Souers Slaying and Other Unsolved Homicides
by Seamus McGraw
May 31, 2006
Clemson, S.C. (Crime Library) — Five days after Tiffany Souers, a pretty young engineering student at Clemson University was found strangled to death with her bikini top in her off campus apartment authorities say they have a few leads, but as yet, no suspects in her slaying.
Among other things, investigators are studying two, and perhaps three unsolved cases that date back several years in the hopes that they might shed some light on the circumstances surrounding Souers' death.
Among them are the deaths "a few years ago" of two Clemson University students, said Marsha Barker, a spokeswoman for the local prosecutor, 13th Circuit Solicitor Bob Ariail
Details of those two cases were not immediately available, and Barker said Wednesday that so far, authorities have found no evidence to suggest that they might be linked to Souers' slaying. But investigators are reviewing the records, just in case. The third case involves the disappearance of a man who authorities suspect may have simply wandered off into the mountains and gotten lost and authorities are doubtful that they will find a connection there.
In the meantime, authorities are remaining tight-lipped about their probe.
Authorities won't speculate on possibility that Souers knew her attacker
Investigators have declined to say whether there is any evidence that Souers knew her attacker, though they have confirmed that there was no evidence of a struggle, nor any sign of forced entry.
Authorities also have declined to speculate on the possibility that Souers might have been caught off guard by a stranger, perhaps, as some have speculated, one posing as a service man, or some other trusted figure, a ploy that has been used repeatedly in the past, most notably by Albert DeSalvo, the man who confessed to being the notorious Boston Strangler in the 1960's.
In a statement released Tuesday, Ariail said that investigators have been focusing on several potential witnesses, people who knew the young woman, perhaps hoping that they could provide information about her last few hours. They have also taken the slain woman's cell phone and computer and authorities are scouring them to see if they can add a few more pieces to the puzzle, Ariail said.
So far, however, the investigation has yielded little that the authorities are willing to share with the public. As Ariail put it in his statement, "at this point in the investigation there is no clear suspect and no obvious motive."
The young woman, who had just returned to campus for summer classes after a two-week break, had reportedly told friends that she planned to stay in on Thursday evening. Her body was discovered the next afternoon by her boyfriend and a former roommate who had come by to return a key, Ariail said in his statement.
An autopsy determined that the young woman, who was wearing only a bra when she was found, had been strangled, apparently with the top of her own bathing suit. Investigators are awaiting the results of further tests to determine whether Souers was sexually assaulted, Ariail said in his statement.
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http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/0506/3102_tiffany_souers2.html
| Quote: | CENTRAL, S.C. — It has been five days since a 20-year-old Clemson University student was strangled with a bikini top and still little is publicly known about the killing.
Authorities say they have leads but won't elaborate. A half-hour news conference with the local prosecutor yielded more than a dozen "no comments" and no new information. And local police, with their entire 10-member force working on the case, have been tight-lipped since Tiffany Marie Souers was found on her apartment bedroom floor Friday.
"I feel confident that all the steps being taken will result in an arrest," prosecutor Bob Ariail said Tuesday. "I just think it's going to take a lot of leg work."
Students who should have been celebrating the first hot days of summer instead trickled out of school-sponsored grief counseling sessions Tuesday evening. None of them wanted to talk to a reporter.
Souers' death has shaken the small-knit community. Pickens County Coroner James Mahanes said he usually handles domestic violence incidents and traffic fatalities, not homicide cases involving college students. There have been at least two other unsolved killings in the county involving females, but authorities don't know if they are connected.
The bikini top was still around Souers' neck when she was found and she only had a bra on, Mahanes said. She didn't have any other visible injuries, the coroner said.
Investigators have not received the results of a sexual assault test and there are no clear suspects or motive, Ariail said. He wouldn't talk about events leading up to Souers' death, whether she had any prior relationships or if she knew her attacker. There was no sign of forced entry.
"Speculation is one of the things that leads to suspects having more information than they need," Ariail said.
Souers, a civil engineering student from Ladue, Mo., was a member of the Kappa Kappa Gamma sorority at Clemson, an agricultural and engineering school in the northwestern corner of the state about 30 miles west of Greenville. She also worked with a local charity.
Neighbors said her apartment was quiet and they didn't hear anything unusual the night she was killed.
"I never expected anything like that to happen here," said 22-year-old Justin Garrick, who lives in the apartment directly above Souers'.
Souers' building is in the back of a sprawling three-story apartment complex about three miles from campus. Orange tiger paws representing Clemson's mascot are painted on the pavement and students tan at the pool, exercise at the community center during all hours of the night and routinely leave their doors unlocked.
"Sometimes we were bad and left keys under the mat," said Kimberly Perry, 21, who will be a senior in the fall. "It was just kind of shocking. That kind of thing doesn't happen around here very often."
Souers' ground-level apartment is down a narrow hallway that is dark even during the daylight hours. It opens away from the complex's center to a parking lot, which is bordered by a construction site.
Some neighbors were disappointed local authorities didn't let them know what was going on. Residents said they saw the coroner's vehicle and several police cruisers, but even those questioned by police had to learn from media reports what had happened.
Neighbor Roeun Eang said she and a friend spent two nights at a nearby hotel after hearing about the killing.
"I was just kind of freaking out a little bit," Eang said.
By Tuesday, the apartment complex had sent out a letter informing residents of Souers' death. It also instructed residents to keep doors locked and identify visitors.
"With the circumstances surrounding Tiffany's death are unknown at this time, we urge everyone to exercise common sense security precautions," according to the letter.
Ariail said the entire police force in Central, which is just a few miles from the heart of campus, was working on the case. Other state and local authorities also were assisting in the investigation.
"It was frustrating I couldn't give them more help," said Seth Chinnis, a neighbor who was questioned by authorities. "I was 50 feet away."
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For the moment, while news is thin on NH and to see how much interest there is, we will allow some threads on this case in the main discussion.
If theres lots of interest we will make its own forum, other wise it will go to crimes and trials.
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E-mail No. 1
Greta,
Since the Holloway case has been on your plate for a year now, isn't it wonderful we have another pretty blond white girl murdered!
This should boost your ratings, strangled with her own bikini top, with any luck this story could go on six months or better.
Sincerely,
Walt Scheidegger
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Gretawire today. 
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| victims cry wrote: | For the moment, while news is thin on NH and to see how much interest there is, we will allow some threads on this case in the main discussion.
If theres lots of interest we will make its own forum, other wise it will go to crimes and trials. |
She's originally from the St. Louis area, and they are covering this story heavy! The local channels have their news crews at Clemson.
As an interesting side note, La Due, where she is from, is "well-to-do" as well as Frontenac, where she attended high school. Reminds me of Mountain Brook. eta: Reminds me of MB in the income levels, nothing else.
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Yes, she is pretty and well to do family etc. Its a strange case though. No boyfriend, nothing to show that she would be a target of such a "personal" type of killing. strangulation is generally when someone knows the victim.
Now we have the possible connection to 2 other murders...
Also interesting is the police arent releasing much info to the media.. take note all who scream about ALE.
I forgive her for being pretty and smart and from a wealthy family  It is still a tragic case, and strange one
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| victims cry wrote: | Yes, she is pretty and well to do family etc. Its a strange case though. No boyfriend, nothing to show that she would be a target of such a "personal" type of killing. strangulation is generally when someone knows the victim.
Now we have the possible connection to 2 other murders...
Also interesting is the police arent releasing much info to the media.. take note all who scream about ALE.
I forgive her for being pretty and smart and from a wealthy family It is still a tragic case, and strange one |
It is a strange case and the strangulation with a bikini top makes it really strange to me.
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Someone on Gretawire asked if maybe she strangled herself. 
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| victims cry wrote: | Yes, she is pretty and well to do family etc. Its a strange case though. No boyfriend, nothing to show that she would be a target of such a "personal" type of killing. strangulation is generally when someone knows the victim.
Now we have the possible connection to 2 other murders...
Also interesting is the police arent releasing much info to the media.. take note all who scream about ALE.
I forgive her for being pretty and smart and from a wealthy family It is still a tragic case, and strange one |
Did you see Rita's rather lengthy phone conversation with the Dad last night? So very sad. Interesting that he said the police were being very tight lipped and not telling them anything and that he respected that.
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| victims cry wrote: | Yes, she is pretty and well to do family etc. Its a strange case though. No boyfriend, nothing to show that she would be a target of such a "personal" type of killing. strangulation is generally when someone knows the victim.
Now we have the possible connection to 2 other murders...
Also interesting is the police arent releasing much info to the media.. take note all who scream about ALE.
I forgive her for being pretty and smart and from a wealthy family It is still a tragic case, and strange one |
It does not mean she did not have a boyfriend, ar someone she was casually seeing. Strangulation is an up close murder method, as you stated; statistically former lovers are the most likely suspects when a woman is murdered. Even if she was not seeing anyone, she could have had some bizarre stalker type as well...someone who "thought" he had a relationship with the girl.
The serial killer thing I am not buying just yet. Serial killers have been known to have cool-down periods where they don't kill anyone, but not too many of these periods are years long.
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She did many hours of charity work. It is sad but sometimes you come into contact with some unsavory characters when you mingle with the street people. She also had a Myspace acct.
These other murders were not recently. One was a graduate student in the early 90's and there were some suspects who were never arrested.
I hope it is not a serial killer. That is a pretty small community in Central and Clemson.
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| sarge wrote: | She did many hours of charity work. It is sad but sometimes you come into contact with some unsavory characters when you mingle with the street people. She also had a Myspace acct.
These other murders were not recently. One was a graduate student in the early 90's and there were some suspects who were never arrested.
I hope it is not a serial killer. That is a pretty small community in Central and Clemson. |
That is why I don't believe they have a serial, Sarge. They were way too far apart for serial killers; unless it is someone who went to prison and was released and restarted old habits.
Could be a bf no one knew of, or one of those unsavory characters one meets in charity work. MySpace is the death of many a person these days because information is anyone's for the taking.
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weird....she's from a town called La Due?
I just saw, literally 10 minutes ago, a woman running in a tanktop (like a track team uniform) that said La Due on it....in downtown Boston...
just thought it was weird 
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Two other unsolved Clemson slayings haunt investigators
Published: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 6:00 am
By Anna Simon and Julie Howle
STAFF WRITERS
CLEMSON -- While police sought clues Tuesday in the strangulation death of Clemson University junior Tiffany Marie Souers, the killings of two other female Clemson students remain open cases.
The body of Clemson freshman Stacy Brooke Holsonback was found floating in a Lake Hartwell cove near the campus on Feb. 20, 1997.
Holsonback had gone four-wheeling the night before with two young men who said their vehicle got stuck in the mud and she decided to walk back to campus alone. An autopsy showed she had been strangled.
Clemson University graduate student Norsaadah Husain was abducted from a Central coin laundry -- about a mile from Souers' apartment -- on June 8, 1992. Three months later a hunter discovered her remains on a wooded hillside near Oconee Nuclear Station.
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Thirteenth Circuit Solicitor Bob Ariail said at a news conference Tuesday that investigators are aware of the two cases.
"That's certainly an aspect of this case that we will be looking at, although we have no indication that there is any connection between this case and the other two," Ariail said.
The older unsolved open cases are periodically reviewed in hope of uncovering some new information, and they haunt some investigators on the Souers case who also worked on them.
"You know they're still out there," said Capt. Robert Griffin, of the Clemson Police Department, referring to the unknown assailants. "You don't know if you're passing them on the highway. You don't know if they're even still alive."
Working on this type of case "really consumes you," Griffin said. Investigators work long hours to find answers for victims' families, and it's frustrating when every lead they follow has a dead end.
"This is a service you need to provide to these people," Griffin said.
http://greenvillenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060531/NEWS01/60531003
Area News Outlets Covering this story:
http://www.independentmail.com/
http://greenvillenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage
http://www.whns.com/
http://www.wyff4.com/index.html
http://clemsonews.clemson.edu/WWW_releases/index.html
Information on Jason Knapp, Clemson student missing since 1998
http://www.cityofclemson.org/?CONTEXT=art&cat=20&art=297&BISKIT=4225851908
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I agree there is rarely a cooling off period of years, however you just have to look at the Charlie Brandt case in 2004.
It was on 48 hoiurs last night, and the scary part was, after he killed his wife and neice, the slayings were so gruesome and hearts were removed, that LE were sure he had killed before.
One killing they are 99% sure was his was in 1989. ANother in 1995. One actually could be linked by gas mileage he noted that showed he drove 100 miles and back the day of it (the miami one). 26 other murders in florida and elsewhere are possible.
| Quote: | The Monroe County Sheriff's Office showed great interest in Brandt once it learned details of the Central Florida slayings. In 1989, the body of a former beauty queen, Sherry Perisho, was found in a canal less than 1,000 feet from Brandt's home. Her throat had been slashed and her heart removed.
There also was a similar slaying of a prostitute in 1995 in Miami. Darlene Toler's head and heart were never found.
Hemmert and Jaynes are convinced that both of those women were slain by Brandt.
'No way out'
Investigators aren't sure Brandt intended to kill Michelle Jones when he left Big Pine Key as the hurricane approached or just found the opportunity too great to pass up.
Although he may have killed before without detection, this time Carl Brandt could not hide behind the image of Charlie Brandt.
"He had no way out," Hemmert said. "He couldn't just walk away from it and go home."
Carl Brandt visited his father, Herbert, in Ormond Beach two days before the bodies of the Brandts and Jones were found. Brandt's father told investigators that, as his son was leaving, " 'Charlie hugged me like he's never hugged me before,' " Hemmert said.
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So the question in the tiffany case is twofold. 1. are the other 2 connected and 2. are there other killings that have been going on and not linked elsewhere.
At any given time statistics suggest there are one to two serial killers operating in every major city. Its only when caught that most have been linked or proven. Others just dont get publicity.
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| ASTLemieux245 wrote: | weird....she's from a town called La Due?
I just saw, literally 10 minutes ago, a woman running in a tanktop (like a track team uniform) that said La Due on it....in downtown Boston...
just thought it was weird |
That IS weird!
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| victims cry wrote: | I agree there is rarely a cooling off period of years, however you just have to look at the Charlie Brandt case in 2004.
It was on 48 hoiurs last night, and the scary part was, after he killed his wife and neice, the slayings were so gruesome and hearts were removed, that LE were sure he had killed before.
One killing they are 99% sure was his was in 1989. ANother in 1995. One actually could be linked by gas mileage he noted that showed he drove 100 miles and back the day of it (the miami one). 26 other murders in florida and elsewhere are possible.
| Quote: | The Monroe County Sheriff's Office showed great interest in Brandt once it learned details of the Central Florida slayings. In 1989, the body of a former beauty queen, Sherry Perisho, was found in a canal less than 1,000 feet from Brandt's home. Her throat had been slashed and her heart removed.
There also was a similar slaying of a prostitute in 1995 in Miami. Darlene Toler's head and heart were never found.
Hemmert and Jaynes are convinced that both of those women were slain by Brandt.
'No way out'
Investigators aren't sure Brandt intended to kill Michelle Jones when he left Big Pine Key as the hurricane approached or just found the opportunity too great to pass up.
Although he may have killed before without detection, this time Carl Brandt could not hide behind the image of Charlie Brandt.
"He had no way out," Hemmert said. "He couldn't just walk away from it and go home."
Carl Brandt visited his father, Herbert, in Ormond Beach two days before the bodies of the Brandts and Jones were found. Brandt's father told investigators that, as his son was leaving, " 'Charlie hugged me like he's never hugged me before,' " Hemmert said.
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So the question in the tiffany case is twofold. 1. are the other 2 connected and 2. are there other killings that have been going on and not linked elsewhere.
At any given time statistics suggest there are one to two serial killers operating in every major city. Its only when caught that most have been linked or proven. Others just dont get publicity. |
I agree with the stats. i am also looking at the MOs and signatures. We don't have a lot of info as of yet, but besides strangulation and student status what is there in common? Both the others were taken away and dumped elsewhere. It is possible, but right now I am thinking it is someone closer to home. No one has stated there was a struggle, only no forced entry into the apartment. A robbery gone bad is also possible since no one locked their doors.
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I agree that someone who knows her is more likely, or a robbery gone bad... however considering she was found without her panties on, there sounds like an assault angle to (medical examiner said no panties last night on nancy grace).
The other two unsolveds do open up the issue though and make it harder for the investigators. They need to rule out connections. I assume that its been brought up because there are some beyond just two murders.
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| victims cry wrote: | I agree that someone who knows her is more likely, or a robbery gone bad... however considering she was found without her panties on, there sounds like an assault angle to (medical examiner said no panties last night on nancy grace).
The other two unsolveds do open up the issue though and make it harder for the investigators. They need to rule out connections. I assume that its been brought up because there are some beyond just two murders. |
Or a staged rape scene, which would mean it was likely someone she knew. A burglar would rather not confront, and if they killed, would not strip a body down. He would be out of there.
I know the tests were not back yet for assault but no one has said that is a possibility in spite of the woman being nearly nude (I read she was wearing a bra and that was it.) There has been little released about it, so I can't make a call on it. The serial angle is another route that muddies the waters though.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,197661,00.html Greta and the ME:
VAN SUSTEREN: Sir, in terms of Tiffany's time of death — I mean, I guess that's one important piece of the puzzle. Do you know if the time of death has been determined?
MAHANES: Well, time of death was released, Greta, but it was not calculated by my office or by the forensic pathologist's office. And I'm under the assumption that the South Carolina Investigation Division did that.
VAN SUSTEREN: Do you know, was it about 1:30? That's what the reporter gave us a little while ago, and I was just trying to confirm it. About 1:30 a.m.?
MAHANES: Well, that's what is reported. This type of thing has to be done by, usually, body temperatures and other aspects of what surrounds this, ambient temperature, times that she was last seen and stuff like that, to be able to put it together. If they did that, that information has not been shared with me.
VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Can you confirm that she was strangled with a bikini top? Is that right?
MAHANES: That's correct. It, you know, of course, appeared as an article of clothing to begin with, but when taken apart, it was identified as the top to a bikini garment.
VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Now, that's different from the bra she was wearing, is that right? I mean, there's some confusion.
MAHANES: Could you repeat that, please, Greta?
VAN SUSTEREN: Was she also wearing a bra, I mean, or is that what they're calling the bikini, in terms of what was the instrument used to kill her?
MAHANES: Well, yes, the only other article of clothing she had on was a brassiere.
VAN SUSTEREN: Was she sexually assaulted, which might help at least lead to her killer, assuming her killer was a male, which I'm making that assumption?
MAHANES: Well, at this time, Greta, there's no clear evidence of that. All of that information will be coming forth as soon as the full kit is analyzed, but that's probably going to be several weeks, as well as toxicology, too.
VAN SUSTEREN: Did you actually go out to the scene where the body was on the scene?
MAHANES: Yes. Whenever there's a signal 9, as it's called, or a death, then our office is called to come. And after a brief scene walk- through, then we examine the body, take personal information, so that we have to do notification and whatnot. And then in a circumstance such as this, we either turn it over to our local forensic specialist to do evidence collection, but in this case, the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division did that because she was a university student.
VAN SUSTEREN: Where was her body found within the apartment?
MAHANES: To my knowledge, she was found in the bedroom.
VAN SUSTEREN: And was there anyone looking around the room to see if furniture turned over, like there'd been a struggle or a fight in any of the other rooms, or anything in the bedroom?
MAHANES: That was not obvious, Greta, and she had no obvious defensive wounds.
VAN SUSTEREN: What did that mean to you? Was there — I mean, you know (INAUDIBLE) fact that she had no defensive wounds. What was sort of your working theory on that?
MAHANES: I'm not sure that — I'm having a little bit of difficulty hearing you, Greta. I'm not sure I understood that. But you know, defensively, if you're fighting off something, you're going to show some bruising, scratching, something like that. It's more obvious if there's a sharp instrument involved. But there was nothing like that in this case.
VAN SUSTEREN: Did that suggest to you that someone came up fast behind her, that there was no defensive wound? Or what's your theory?
MAHANES: Actually, I'm not theorizing on that, Greta, and I want to avoid any speculation in that regard. I mean, this is certainly a human tragedy that's turned into a human drama now because there's so many things that aren't known about this. But hopefully, those things will come...
VAN SUSTEREN: And hopefully, we'll get to those quickly. Thank you, Doctor.
MAHANES: I hope so, yes.
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victim's cry,
Thanks for starting this thread.  I am very interested in this case and hope it is solved quickly!
RUMORS:
1. Police took surveillance video from a local grocery store because flowers were found in the apartment.
2. The buzz around the Clemson Campus is that her boyfriend may have
done it. Of course this one contradicts media reports that there was not a boyfriend.
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| jade wrote: | victim's cry,
Thanks for starting this thread. I am very interested in this case and hope it is solved quickly!
RUMORS:
1. Police took surveillance video from a local grocery store because flowers were found in the apartment.
2. The buzz around the Clemson Campus is that her boyfriend may have
done it. Of course this one contradicts media reports that there was not a boyfriend. |
Maybe he was not serious enough (to her) to report to friends and family.
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| skepticynic wrote: | | jade wrote: | victim's cry,
Thanks for starting this thread. I am very interested in this case and hope it is solved quickly!
RUMORS:
1. Police took surveillance video from a local grocery store because flowers were found in the apartment.
2. The buzz around the Clemson Campus is that her boyfriend may have
done it. Of course this one contradicts media reports that there was not a boyfriend. |
Maybe he was not serious enough (to her) to report to friends and family. |
Agree. Quite possible!
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| Karamel
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The channel 5 news this morning, said something about the "internet" being a possible key. I didnt hear everything about that -- has anyone else?
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| jade
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| Karamel wrote: | | The channel 5 news this morning, said something about the "internet" being a possible key. I didnt hear everything about that -- has anyone else? |
I heard initially that investigators were interested in her online activity at social networking sites. Facebook was specifically mentioned...
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| Karamel
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| jade wrote: | | Karamel wrote: | | The channel 5 news this morning, said something about the "internet" being a possible key. I didnt hear everything about that -- has anyone else? |
I heard initially that investigators were interested in her online activity at social networking sites. Facebook was specifically mentioned... |
Thanks jade. I was just looking at the Kdsk site, and per usual, they have very limited info.
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Incident Report by the Central Police Department:
http://web.andersonsc.com/web/2006_files/souers_case/report1.pdf
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