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Saucey
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Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:09 pm |
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Does anyone know what ever happened with this case? All of a sudden, coverage stopped. I guess I need to search the internet. I am really waiting to see how this case plays out!
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| dugo
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Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:21 am |
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Henry K. Lee is liveblogging the Hans Reiser murder trial.
http://www.sfgate.com/ZBLS
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| dugo
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Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:11 pm |
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| Saucey wrote: | | Does anyone know what ever happened with this case? All of a sudden, coverage stopped. I guess I need to search the internet. I am really waiting to see how this case plays out! |
Trial went dark for the holidays 18/12 -- 14/01
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Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:20 pm |
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Thank You Dugo!
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Another good source of what is going on @ WIRED mag.
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/hans_reiser_trial/index.html
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| Schmerty
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Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:18 pm |
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Hans Reiser testifies in his own defense at murder trial
Bay City News Service
Article Launched: 03/03/2008 11:47:19 AM
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http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_8438752
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Thank you, Schmerty!!! 
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10:15 a.m. The jurors have filed in. Most of them are wearing green. The defendant is not, but his attorneys, William Du Bois and Richard Tamor, and prosecutor Paul Hora are all sporting green ties. Judge Larry Goodman greeted the jury with a smile. "Good morning. Glad to be back?" Chuckles from the jury.
Hans Reiser is back on the stand. An Alameda County sheriff's deputy is sitting next to him, which has been standard practice.
Du Bois opened this morning by asking his client about Labor Day weekend 2006, which is when Nina Reiser disappeared. The couple had disagreed over who would have custody of their children. Hans thought it was his weekend to have the kids, while Nina thought it was hers, he testified.
Reiser said, "I explained that we should resume the calcuation of whose weekend it was, starting from where we had left off prior to the summer, and she argued that the last weekend of the summer is what counted. And I said that doesn't make any sense."
Reiser said he still thinks that it was his weekend. "I'm kind of obstinate," he acknowledged. "I think I was logically correct to this day."
"In any case, you compromised?" Du Bois asked.
"Yeah, we did," Reiser said.
"How did that come about?" Du Bois asked.
"Anthony Zografos suggested that we split the weekend," said Reiser, referring to Nina's boyfriend. "Also, I understood that she sort of had made plans to go to the beach with Anthony. By giving her half the weekend, she was able to not cancel her plans. It was actually a reasonable compromise."
Du Bois referred to testimony by Patelco auditor Erin Morasch, who has told jurors that Reiser was a regular user of his Visa card until August 2006, when there were no transactions.
Asked why this was so, Reiser said Patelco had just switched its policy in that one could not get a cash advance without having to pay a fee. Reiser said he wanted to avoid a "ping pong" situation. "I didn't want to put money into the credit card and then make a cash advance a month later, because then I actually end up paying more interest. So all of this saved, like $24, for all this complexity."
Du Bois turned to Sept. 3, 2006, the last day Nina Reiser was seen. Hans Reiser said he had been working on "memory flush algorithms" and cleaning the house in preparation for his kids coming over, as they have allergies. Asked by Du Bois to define a "flush algorithm" in "25 words or less," Reiser said it is an "algorithm for sending data that is being written into RAM to the disk."
Reiser said Nina brought the kids to his Exeter Drive home in the Oakland hills at 2:20 p.m. on Sept. 3, 2006. Asked why that hour was fixed in his mind, Reiser cited her cell-phone records introduced earlier in the trial and said it took about 25 minutes for her to get to his home.
"In your experience, is Nina a punctual person?" Du Bois asked.
"Most of the time, but there are circumstances in which she can be extraordinarily late. And it's..."
"What are those circumstances?" Du Bois asked.
Reiser paused. "I don't know how to describe it. If it involves like going on a trip and getting organized for it, or..," Reiser said before pausing again. "I don't know. Most of the time, she's pretty punctual."
As of Sept. 3, Reiser said things were improving between Nina and him despite their ongoing divorce proceedings.
"Can you explain what you mean by that?" Du Bois asked.
"She was making an effort to be nice," he said. "What's that?" Du Bois asked, and Reiser repeated his answer.
"How about you?" Du Bois asked.
"Well, I liked it that she was making an effort to be nice," Reiser said. A male juror in the front row looked at a fellow panelist in the second row.
"Did you make an effort to be nice? Is that within your vocabulary of activities?" Du Bois asked.
"Well," Reiser said. A long pauase. "I was still pursuing the deposition, which is inherently not nice."
"You were not nice in your deposition?" Du Bois asked.
"Well, deposing her was uh, not nice," Reiser said.
"I'm asking you whether you made any effort to improve the way you conducted yourself with respect to Nina while things were getting better?" Du Bois said.
Reiser gave a small shrug. Another pause before he asked his attorney, "You mean outside the courtroom?"
"I mean in your life," Du Bois said, repeating his question again. "This is a yes-or-no type answer."
"Yes, the answer is yes," he said.
Asked to explain, Reiser said, "We just did things together. We take the kids to New China Buffet, went with the kids to judo and Fridays we went to a soccer practice, me, Nina and both kids."
Reiser said he was aware that Nina's relationship with Zografos was progressing. "I felt he was a good influence on her," Reiser said.
After Nina arrived with the children at his home, the kids had pasta. Nina and Hans talked about the kids for about 20 minutes and about the divorce for about 40 minutes, he testified.
The two discussed how their son was doing in school, and Hans said he was given permission to take him to the dentist of his choice near Oakland's Chinatown. The discussion turned to talks of where the dentist's office is located, whether 12th Street intersects with 14th Street (Hans believed they do, Du Bois said "not recently"). The Reisers' son had two cavities -- one of them deep -- possibly needed a root canal, needed orthodontic work and his front teeth were too large, Nina reportedly told Hans.
Du Bois asked his client if his son's teeth appeared to be the same size when the boy had testified. Reiser said, "He has the normal teeth of a normal 6-year-old of that age. Of course, you folks remember that a 6-year-old's front teeth, they look a little large at that age."
"Do you remember my question?" Du Bois said.
"The answer is yes," Reiser said.
"Thank you," the defense attorney said.
Reiser said he lost the ability to make medical decisions for his children in May 2005 and lost legal custody of the children in December 2005.
Nina offered to give him Namesys, his computer company, as part of the divorce, Reiser testified.
Nina told her husband, "Hans, I have to go," Reiser said.
"Actually, you weren't finished, if I get you properly?" Du Bois asked.
"Yeah," he said.
"You could have gone on for hours more, is that fair to say?" Du Bois asked.
"Yes," he agreed.
"She said, 'I don't have hours more, I gotta go?' " Du Bois asked.
"She didn't use those wods, but that's what she meant," Reiser said. Nina called for the kids, who ran upstairs from a room on the bottom floor, he said. Their son gave her a "squeeze-hug," he said. The boy didn't want to kiss her because he said he had cavities and didn't want them to spread to his mom, Reiser said. "And somehow we never got to explaining to him that cavities don't spread," he said.
Their daughter was "standing around," but Reiser said he didn't remember exactly what happened between her and Nina, because he was "opening the door or something." Reiser said he didn't say anything to her and that she walked out the door. He didn't shake hands with her and the two didn't touch, Reiser said in response to Du Bois' questions. He didn't say goodbye to her, Reiser said.
Reiser said he saw his estranged wife walking up the steps toward her car. "She looked magnificent. She looked nice. Very proud. There was pride in her walk," Reiser said in an answer that was so low that he had to repeat it.
"How did you feel at that time?" Du Bois asked.
"I had a mix of emotions," Reiser said. Asked to explain, he said, "You know, I don't like these kinds of arguments over the deposition and stuff."
Du Bois slightly interrupted his client, prompting Hora to note to the judge that the defense attorney wasn't allowing Reiser to finish his answer.
"Could you repeat the question?" Reiser asked.
"How did you feel?" Du Bois repeated.
"Um," Reiser said. He sighed. There was a very long pause. "Unhappy," he said finally.
"And why?" Du Bois asked.
There was another pause before Reiser said, 'Cuz only the lawyers win in divorces."
"What?" Du Bois asked.
"Only the lawyers win in divorces," Reiser said again. "And, I mean, it's not that I was specifically thinking about the lawyers at that moment in time."
"But what were you thinking about at that moment in time?" Du Bois asked.
"Well, actually I was thinking I wanted to go downstairs and play with the kids," Reiser said. 'That was the main thing I was thinking about."
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11:25 a.m. After the mid-morning break, defense attorney William Du Bois asked Hans Reiser when he last saw his estranged wife, Nina, on Sept. 3, 2006.
"Um, driving away in the minivan," Reiser said.
"Did you have anything whatsoever to do with her disappearance?" Du Bois asked.
"No, I did not," Reiser said.
"Have you thought about this?" Du Bois asked.
"Yes," he said.
"I thought about, you know, if I had been more emotional with her, um, she would have felt cared about more," he said. "I've thought that, you know, maybe since I was getting intellectual property worth millions, I could have been less chintzy about the debts, 'cuz actually, you know, I actually didn't, they really weren't that important to me, because they were long-term debts."
Reiser said his former best friend Sean Sturgeon's finances were "murky," that Sturgeon's records had been subpoenaed and that he "did money laundering," a comment that prompted prosecutor Paul Hora to say, "Move to strike. No foundation and it's also irrelevant." Judge Larry Goodman agreed with the DA.
Du Bois asked what effect the subpoenaing of Sturgeon's records had on Nina, and Hora objected on the grounds of speculation. The judge sided with the DA.
Reiser said he was just "trying to figure out what could have happened to her" and said he was "grasping at straws and that's the straw I grasped at," referring to Sturgeon's finances.
Reiser again said Sturgeon had been involved in money laundering, and Hora successfully moved to strike that answer again.
"I'm asking you about Nina," Du Bois said. "What, if anything, might you have done that could have caused Nina to disappear?"
"Um, I opened the door," Reiser said.
"Did you conduct yourself in any manner you think contributed to her disappearance in any manner whatsoever?" Du Bois asked.
"Well, I put a lot of pressure on her, and I failed to consider that if you say not nice things to Nina, Nina appears completely unconcerned," Reiser said. "It actually means she's very worried. That's her pattern. During the deposition she was completely calm, cool and unconcerned, yet when I asked her to come by and pick up the kids at Greg Silva's office (his divorce attorney), she wasn't willing even to go near his office. It was clear that it was traumatic for her to even go near his office."
"Well, what kind of pressure did you put on her?" Du Bois asked again. Can you be more specific?"
"Well, she had embezzled money, she had forged these checks in my name, she forged a legal affidavit, she--"
"Is this pressure you put on her?" Du Bois asked. "Can you explain what pressure you put on her?"
"Well, I caught her at it. That's pressure."
"Anything else?" Du Bois asked.
"Um, I told her embezzlement was a serious crime, that forgery was a crime, that she committed perjury," Reiser said.
Reiser then referred to his wedding video, saying when he views it, "I can understand not being attracted to a guy with his jaw hanging open like that, you know, and I've come to understand that there are ways in which I'm really not an attractive person. And these are -- listening to tape recordings of myself--"
Hora threw up his hand, saying, "This is non-responsive."
"The question was, you think being yourself had some effect on her disappearance?" Du Bois asked.
"Jeez, I thought that was responsive," Reiser said.
"Well, what were you trying to say in response to that quesiton when the district attorney cut you off," asked Du Bois, looking at the district attorney. Hora shook his head and grinned.
Reiser discussed the basic differences the two had and reasserted that Nina was "very angry with me ove the divorce." He said he feared Nina was doing the same thing to her boyfriend, Anthony Zografos, that she had done with Reiser before things went sour. Reiser also repeated his previous testimony that he believed Nina was "incapable of love." Today, he added, "At least for men. She loves cats."
Reiser said that after his wife left his home, he went through some discovery over their divorce proceedings, thought about what she had told him earlier that day and then made dinner at about 7 p.m. He noted that "it wasn't much of a dinner."
"What was it?" prompted Du Bois.
"I think I reheated some tri-tip and reheated spaghetti," Reiser said. "Actually, it was an unusually, uh, poor dinner. Well, I mean it wasn't anything criminally wrong with it. It just wasn't such a great dinner."
Du Bois asked if Reiser had been "emotionally affected" by the conversation he had had with Nina, and Reiser said yes. Asked to explain, Reiser said, "I don't like these conflicts wiht family, you know? It's just horrible. And I wanted to go to a mediator from the very beginning. And I told her that if we didn't go to a mediator, Namesys would go bankrupt." He added that his programmers "really got screwed by this whole thing. They still haven't been paid. They're still owed "$130,000, probably more."
Reiser said, "Most people figure out that you don't want to give money to the lawyers, and some people don't. And both sides have to figure out the money to go to the children, not lawyers. If one side decides the money should go to lawyers, then there's really nothing the other side can do."
The discussion turned to Reiser washing down the driveway. He said today that he wanted to wash it down because his mother, Beverly Palmer, would be returning from the Burning Man festival in the Nevada desert. The driveway hadn't been sprayed for eight years. His stepfather, Bernard Palmer, used to clean it more frequently, he said. But after eight years, there were now accumulated "tree drippings" a half-inch or inch thick on the driveway, he said.
Reiser said to properly clean the driveway, you would "put your thumb on the hose, you hold it, you get as much pressure from the hose as you possibly can." The problem is, the tree drippings only move six inches before stopping on the driveway again. "About this much of it moves about this far," Reiser said, gesturing with his hands. "It doesn't work." He added, "I'm not really enthusiastic about spraying the driveway clean, because it seems like an unnecessary activity. It seems like inherently a waste of time, and a conceit."
"What?" Du Bois asked.
"A conceit. An unnecessary activity," he said.
"And then why did you choose to do it?" Du Bois asked.
"Well, my mother wanted it done," he said, noting that he had been an "inconsiderate slob" and his mother had threatened to kick him out of her house.
Reiser said he moved cars from the property in part to be "excessively nice" to neighbor Jack Stabb, who had complained about cars being parked near his home on Exeter Drive. The cars "turned out to be far enough way that I decided I wouldn't be that nice again," Reiser testified. "The whole street is so crowded, there aren't a lot of spaces there that aren't somebody's. There used to be not a lot of houses there. Now there are a lot of houses and people have a lot of cars. There isn't enough space to park. The road isn't wide enough, that's another problem. If you park cars on both sides of the street, garbage trucks can't come through."
That evening, Reiser said he sung the "Bathtub Blues" to his children while putting them to bed.
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Mar 18, 10:16 AM EDT
Man Denies Involvement With Missing Wife
By MICHELLE LOCKE
Associated Press Writer
OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) -- A software programmer testified Monday he had nothing to do with the disappearance of his estranged wife, who hasn't been seen since dropping the couple's two children off at his house a year and half ago.
Hans Reiser, known in programming services as the creator of the ReiserFS computer file system, is charged with killing his wife, whose body has not been found.
Reiser, 44, testified that he has tried to figure out what may have happened to his wife since she was last seen Sept. 3, 2006; the defense has suggested Nina Reiser could still be alive and living in her native Russia.
But prosecutors say she was not the sort of person who would abandon her children. They say DNA and other evidence points to Hans Reiser. His car was found with the passenger seat missing and the floorboard soaked with water.
Recalling the day she was last seen, Reiser said he talked to his wife for about an hour, discussing their children and their divorce. He said he "put a lot of pressure" on Nina Reiser, including accusing her of embezzlement and perjury.
Reiser, who resumed testimony Monday following a weeklong hiatus in the trial, said that he did not hear that Nina Reiser was missing until the evening of Sept. 5, when a friend of hers called to say that she had the children and Nina Reiser had been missing since Sept. 3.
"This just didn't add up," Reiser said.
He said the friend put a police officer on the phone to talk to him. But Reiser said he thought "something strange was going on," and referred the officer to his divorce lawyer.
A few days later, the children were taken into protective custody, Reiser said.
Reiser testified earlier that he took the seat out to make it more comfortable to sleep in the car. He said he bought the books because he realized he was under suspicion and wanted to read up on the topic.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MISSING_MOTHER?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US
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so the embezzlement nd perjury story is to suggest another motive by another killer
right I am convinced
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| flibberdeejibbet
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Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:29 am |
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sorry meant to say thanks for the article gwen
I'd been wondering what was going on with this case
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Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:51 am |
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I wonder what they aer going to dig out of these hard drives..
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Thanks for all the articles etc. I cannot wait to see what happens in this case. This case is really interesting.
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Yes it is!
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Skipping along my own path.
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Yeah, I follow it on sfgate, the guy is doing a great job liveblogging.
The only thing that is a bit vague to me is the theory of the prosecution.
I get the idea they are trying a theory that Nina would never leave her kids, their divorce was horrible, Hans acts weird ergo he killed her. Either I missed something, or they are saving it for the end maybe? Otherwise it is a proverbial nobodynocase.
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Closing args. today.. Hora argueing a no-body-no-case..
check the sfgate link I posted earlyer for what is going on..
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More closing, Du Bois for the defense .. platypus defense?
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Hi dugo. What's a platypus defense?
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| pax wrote: | | Hi dugo. What's a platypus defense? |
Dunno man! Check http://www.sfgate.com/ZBLS ..
| Quote: | | Du Bois compared his client to the duck-billed platypus and showed them a stuffed-animal platypus. The creature is odd amongst animals, just like Reiser is. "He is odd in every way. Odd in the way he carries himself. Odd in the way he acts. Odd in the way he speaks. |
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Oh man, that is hilarious. Maybe the defense is yes my client is weird but the state hasn't proved its case beyond a reasonable doubt.
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pros. is going to finnish rebuttal today, judge will instruct and jury will boot deliberations..
exciting!
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Reiser Defense: Nina's Death Hasn't Been Proven
OAKLAND (CBS 5 / AP / BCN) ― The defense attorney for Oakland software programmer Hans Reiser, accused of killing his estranged wife Nina, told jurors Monday that the prosecution had failed to prove she is dead, let alone murdered.
"You're being asked to convict this person of murder ... when you don't even know if there was a death," lawyer William Du Bois said as he made his final argument to jurors.
DuBois said Nina Reiser, who was born and educated in Russia, "has contacts around the world" and "has lived most of her life in Europe." He implied she could be hiding out there now.
Reiser's lawyer also compared his marathon murder trial to the war in Iraq, telling jurors that in both instances the government had failed to prove its case.
Alleging that the U.S. went to war in Iraq based on "a circumstantial case that absolutely was without a basis," DuBois said, "In this case the government is doing the same thing" by asking jurors to find Reiser guilty of first- or second-degree murder.
The defense lawyer said there's no evidence indicating Reiser committed a crime, but if jurors disagree, then it was at most manslaughter, meaning it was committed in the heat of passion.
But Du Bois said he does not believe the 44-year-old Reiser harmed his 31-year old estranged wife, who disappeared after dropping the couple's two children off at his Oakland Hills house on Sept. 3, 2006.
Reiser, known as the creator of the ReiserFS computer file system, has testified that he had nothing to do with his wife's disappearance and said Nina left his house alive.
DuBois repeatedly told jurors that Reiser didn't have an opportunity to kill Nina because the couple's son, Rory, also testified that Nina left Reiser's house alive on that Sunday of the Labor Day weekend in 2006.
But prosecutor Paul Hora said Rory was only 6 years old at the time and "he was just too little to accurately and reliably remember the details" about the last day that he saw his mother.
Although Nina's body has never been found, the prosecution claimed there's ample circumstantial evidence as well as blood and DNA evidence to convict Reiser of her murder.
In his closing argument, Hora contended that Hans Reiser had "a hatred (of Nina) that runs deep into his core."
Hora pointed out that Reiser's car went missing after his wife disappeared and when it was located, the passenger front seat was gone and the floorboards were soaked with water. When he was arrested, Reiser was carrying his passport and thousands in cash.
But Du Bois said there are innocent explanations for the circumstantial evidence. For instance, Reiser said he threw away the car seat to make the car more comfortable to sleep in. He said he washed the car floor because it was dirty.
Du Bois admitted his client "is weird. He does seem strange. Not because he was hiding evidence of the crime, but because he is strange."
Jurors are expected to begin deliberating Reiser's fate as early as Tuesday.
(© CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved
http://cbs5.com/crime/reiser.closing.arguments.2.705010.html
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wow .. jury is still out.. guess that's a guilty and they are still quablinig about 1st or 2nd degree
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