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Fu-Gee-La
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OT - GET BILL O'REILLY OFF THE AIR!!! This is a Battle Call
I have absolutely had it. I am just over it. I would LOVE it if those of you who feel that this idiot is a boil on the ass of America would write the producers, Bill's office, etc etc etc and express your dismay.
Here is the latest in case you haven't heard...
Shawn Hornbeck was kidnapped at gunpoint 4 years ago by a 300 pound pedophile at gunpoint. Ben Ownby was recently kidnapped by the same man, and just so happened, that Ownby led them right to Shawn Hornbeck. Here is what BOR had to say about Shawn and his 4 years that he spent in captivity.
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Bill O'Reilly: You know the Stockholm syndrome thing, I don't buy it, I never bought it, I don't think It happened in the Patty Hearst Case. I don't think it happened here...
Greta van Susteren: Woah, Can I just say something?
Bill O'Reilly: Yeah go ahead and jump in.
GVS: First of all we don't know all the facts, Don't forget that Elizabeth Smart likewise had an opportunity to leave and she did not. She was on the public street for some reason when young people are picked up and taken under the influence of adults they are very receptive of what adults do. So I would not dismiss the Stockholm syndrome --
BOR: The difference in the Smart case, and correct me if I am wrong, was this guy was always around the little girl and she wasn't gone for the long period of time as this guy was. Now what we have learned -- and this is why I don't believe in Stockholm -- this guy Shawn Hornbeck gone four years from 11-15. Authorities actually say that he taunted his own parents on his website. He's got these piercing this is a troubled kid in my opinion --
BOR: No, I am not buying this if you're 11 years old or 12 years old or 13 and you have a strong bond with your family. Even if the guy threatens you this and that. You're riding your bike around, you got friends -- the kid didn't go to school. There's all kinds of stuff, if you can get away, you get away. If you're 11 --
BOR: Let me answer your question. This is what I believe in the Hearst case and in this case. The situation that Hearst found herself in was exciting. She had a boring life, child of privilege. All of a sudden she's in with a bunch of charismatic thugs and she enjoyed it. The situation here with this kid is looks to me to be a lot more fun then when he had under his own parents. He didn't have to go to school, He could run around and do what he wanted.
GVS: Some kids like school --
BOR: Well I don't believe this kid did. And I think when it all comes down what's going to happen is there was an element here that this kid liked about his circumstances...
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Here is the video-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0_CRFFEvIk
Here is BOR's email and my letter to him-
OReilly@FoxNews.com
Mr. O'Reilly,
I am interested in knowing the level of your education and expertise regarding stockholm syndrome. I am also interested in learning just when you became an "expert" in area of child psychology. I am also interested in learning when you became an expert on the Elizabeth Smart and Patty Hearst cases.
I will extend a thank you for taking one more step (or maybe a few) down the path of anathema.
-Horrified and Outraged
Here is the feedback form as well- Please consider filling this out and telling BOR to Fuck off! I know that the show has been getting some serious onslaught, but I don't want it to stop. It needs to keep coming. The emails and letters need to keep being sent until he is shut the hell up!
Thanks!
http://tinyurl.com/2vc2ej
Edited by YIF to insert tiny URL. 1/20/07
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| ATA
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:03 pm |
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http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/default.asp
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/original/2006ranker.pdf
GOOD LUCK
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| Fu-Gee-La
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:45 pm |
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What is this supposed to "prove"?
Here is a great part of the transcript-
BOR-
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The situation here for this kid looks to me to be a lot more fun than what he had under his old parents. He didn't have to go to school. He could run around and do whatever he wanted. |
His "old parents"??
Get this perv off the air! He slams the children and defends the perv. Way to go Bill!
You will be the hero and spokesperson of NAMBLA. What a guy.
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| victims cry
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:12 pm |
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| Fu-Gee-La wrote: |
What is this supposed to "prove"?
Here is a great part of the transcript-
BOR-
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The situation here for this kid looks to me to be a lot more fun than what he had under his old parents. He didn't have to go to school. He could run around and do whatever he wanted. |
His "old parents"??
Get this perv off the air! He slams the children and defends the perv. Way to go Bill!
You will be the hero and spokesperson of NAMBLA. What a guy. |
You have it in one FGL. I do not care if he is right wing, left wing or centrist, his politics aside... that he would defend a perv like Devlin, attack a victim and suggest that his parents are the "old parents" is SICK. Even people who love his politics are disgusted with this. Its far beyond any sort of "controversial statement" it is right out of the defender of predators handbook.
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| Kellan
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He better not even TRY to make it all about liberal/conservative/politics, because it ISN'T.
Kellan
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| tulsad
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| Kellan wrote: | He better not even TRY to make it all about liberal/conservative/politics, because it ISN'T.
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FOXNEWS.COM HOME > THE O'REILLY FACTOR
Bill's Talking Points
Shawn Hornbeck appears on 'Oprah'
"Shawn Hornbeck, the kidnapped 15-year-old, appeared with Ms. Winfrey just six days after police freed him from that despicable predator Michael Devlin, who entered a "not guilty" plea today to kidnapping charges.
Shawn went missing four years ago. Ms. Winfrey was gentle with him: [snip] ... The far-left smear Web sites havThis case has captivated the entire country and is now becoming political.e vilified me for raising questions about the situation and predictability "The View" ladies took the bait.
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JOY BEHAR, 'VIEW' CO-HOST: Bill O'Reilly has said that he does not believe in the Stockholm Syndrome. You know this kid who was kidnapped in Missouri — isn't it Missouri? Yes. He says that. ...[snip]
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,244890,00.html
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| Fu-Gee-La
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Cutting through all the nonsense, the bottom line on this story is that Shawn Hornbeck fell victim to evil — pure evil. And every American parent should use this case to instruct their children on how to confront evil because sooner or later they will have to. Simplistic stuff like Stockholm Syndrome and the like get us nowhere. |
Since WHEN is Stockholm Sydrome "simplistic"?
wtf is wrong with this guy?
I am beyond words.
here are some interesting words-
| Quote: | | "I would take the little loofa thing and kinda' soap your back and rub it all over you, get you to relax, hot wate rand um You know, you'd feel the tension drain out of you and um you still would be with your back to me then I would kinda' put my arms--it's one of those mitts, those loofa mitts you know, so I got my hands in it and I would put it around front, kinda' rub your tummy with it and then with my other hand I would start to massage your boobs, get your nipples really hard 'cuz I like that and you have really spectacular boobs." |
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I can't tolerate BOR. He is just a egomaniac and a bore. I don't watch him either. But I was happy to drop him a very nasty email after reading about his comments about Ben and Shawn. What a fool! 
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| Fu-Gee-La
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| Quote: | In 1998, after the launch of "The O’Reilly Factor," but before superstardom, he published a thriller called "Those Who Trespass," which is his most ambitious and deeply felt piece of writing. "Those Who Trespass" is a revenge fantasy, and it displays extraordinarily violent impulses. A tall, b.s.-intolerant television journalist named Shannon Michaels, the "product of two Celtic parents," is pushed out by Global News Network after an incident during the Falkland Islands War, and then by a local station, and he systematically murders the people who ruined his career. He starts with Ron Costello, the veteran correspondent who stole his Falkland story:
The assailant’s right hand, now holding the oval base of the spoon, rocketed upward, jamming the stainless stem through the roof of Ron Costello’s mouth. The soft tissue gave way quickly and the steel penetrated the correspondent’s brain stem. Ron Costello was clinically dead in four seconds.
Michaels stalks the woman who forced his resignation from the network and throws her off a balcony. He next murders a television research consultant who had advised the local station to dismiss him: he buries the guy in beach sand up to his neck and lets him slowly drown. Finally, during a break in the Radio and Television News Directors Association convention, he slits the throat of the station manager. O’Reilly describes each of these killings—the careful planning, the suffering of the victim, the act itself—in loving detail.
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| ATA
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:58 pm |
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| Fu-Gee-La wrote: |
What is this supposed to "prove"?
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Considering the title of the thread "GET BILL O'REILLY OF THE AIR"
Looking at the ratings, he is not going anywhere soon, no matter what he says!
In fact his comments have brought more discussion if anything.
BOR is just another media persona with an opinion! Unpopular opinions are what bring ratings.
O'Reilly Factor averaged 2,274,000 viewers a night in the first quarter of 2006.
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| Heli
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Well ATA, Little Mosque on the Prairie got 2,100,000 viewers
on its first night on tv 
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| ATA
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:28 pm |
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| Heli wrote: | Well ATA, Little Mosque on the Prairie got 2,100,000 viewers
on its first night on tv |
Yes i know........Considering the population difference that is huge!
Not superbowl numbers But huge none the less!
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| danascully
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| ATA wrote: | | Fu-Gee-La wrote: |
What is this supposed to "prove"?
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Considering the title of the thread "GET BILL O'REILLY OF THE AIR"
Looking at the ratings, he is not going anywhere soon, no matter what he says!
In fact his comments have brought more discussion if anything.
BOR is just another media persona with an opinion! Unpopular opinions are what bring ratings.
O'Reilly Factor averaged 2,274,000 viewers a night in the first quarter of 2006. |
I agree. Not even his big, fat mouth could get Fox to boot that man out! He's good for business!
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| tulsad wrote: | | Kellan wrote: | He better not even TRY to make it all about liberal/conservative/politics, because it ISN'T.
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Shawn went missing four years ago. Ms. Winfrey was gentle with him: [snip] ... The far-left smear Web sites havThis case has captivated the entire country and is now becoming political.e vilified me for raising questions about the situation and predictability "The View" ladies took the bait.
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Yeah, that was what I was referring to. I heard that last night and was enraged and sent a letter off to BIGMOUTH OREILLY. He made me sick to my stomach and I am not a liberal. He better not count on having conservatives on his side if they saw that interview.
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| Fu-Gee-La wrote: | | Quote: | In 1998, after the launch of "The O’Reilly Factor," but before superstardom, he published a thriller called "Those Who Trespass," which is his most ambitious and deeply felt piece of writing. "Those Who Trespass" is a revenge fantasy, and it displays extraordinarily violent impulses. A tall, b.s.-intolerant television journalist named Shannon Michaels, the "product of two Celtic parents," is pushed out by Global News Network after an incident during the Falkland Islands War, and then by a local station, and he systematically murders the people who ruined his career. He starts with Ron Costello, the veteran correspondent who stole his Falkland story:
The assailant’s right hand, now holding the oval base of the spoon, rocketed upward, jamming the stainless stem through the roof of Ron Costello’s mouth. The soft tissue gave way quickly and the steel penetrated the correspondent’s brain stem. Ron Costello was clinically dead in four seconds.
Michaels stalks the woman who forced his resignation from the network and throws her off a balcony. He next murders a television research consultant who had advised the local station to dismiss him: he buries the guy in beach sand up to his neck and lets him slowly drown. Finally, during a break in the Radio and Television News Directors Association convention, he slits the throat of the station manager. O’Reilly describes each of these killings—the careful planning, the suffering of the victim, the act itself—in loving detail.
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What a sick piece of work BOR is!!
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ATA in some ways i agree with you, if they did not boot him for this sexual harassment of a subordinate (i.e a workplace predator) it is unlikely they will now.
HOWEVER I THINK HE HAS NOW DISGUSTED EVEN HIS FANS. I actually like fox during the day as my background tv. They have interesting alerts of tidbits around the country and the afternoon ppl, bar Gibson at 5 are not controversial. I even love Shep  . I despise fox.
I have watched msnbc and CNN most of today. Not out of preference. I know my viewing doesnt make a diff but 10 million will.
Suggesting a child abducted at gunpoint, kept captive and almost certainly sexually abused (what did he need ben for if it was not that shawn had outgrown the preferential age.. bet that he only got his freedoms in the last year too..when he got tall and not "boyish" - less interest for devlin) LIKED IT!!!!!!! that it was better than with this "old parents"
If that isnt out of NAMBLA's handbook as FGL said, then show me something they say that is different in terms of "liking it".
Nambla = North American Man Boy Love Association
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| ATA
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| victims cry wrote: | ATA in some ways i agree with you, if they did not boot him for this sexual harassment of a subordinate (i.e a workplace predator) it is unlikely they will now.
HOWEVER I THINK HE HAS NOW DISGUSTED EVEN HIS FANS. I actually like fox during the day as my background tv. They have interesting alerts of tidbits around the country and the afternoon ppl, bar Gibson at 5 are not controversial. I even love Shep . I despise fox.
I have watched msnbc and CNN most of today. Not out of preference. I know my viewing doesnt make a diff but 10 million will.
Suggesting a child abducted at gunpoint, kept captive and almost certainly sexually abused (what did he need ben for if it was not that shawn had outgrown the preferential age.. bet that he only got his freedoms in the last year too..when he got tall and not "boyish" - less interest for devlin) LIKED IT!!!!!!! that it was better than with this "old parents"
If that isnt out of NAMBLA's handbook as FGL said, then show me something they say that is different in terms of "liking it".
Nambla = North American Man Boy Love Association |
I'm not gonna show you anything! Your post comes off as if i agree with BOR!
Nowhere did i say he was right or that i was in support of his comments.
I was simply pointing out the ratings. He has the highest rated news show in any time slot! There is a reason for that! People call him a baffoon and there are websites that ridicule him, but the bottom line is $$$$$$$$$$$
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| danascully
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| Kellan wrote: | | Fu-Gee-La wrote: | | Quote: | In 1998, after the launch of "The O’Reilly Factor," but before superstardom, he published a thriller called "Those Who Trespass," which is his most ambitious and deeply felt piece of writing. "Those Who Trespass" is a revenge fantasy, and it displays extraordinarily violent impulses. A tall, b.s.-intolerant television journalist named Shannon Michaels, the "product of two Celtic parents," is pushed out by Global News Network after an incident during the Falkland Islands War, and then by a local station, and he systematically murders the people who ruined his career. He starts with Ron Costello, the veteran correspondent who stole his Falkland story:
The assailant’s right hand, now holding the oval base of the spoon, rocketed upward, jamming the stainless stem through the roof of Ron Costello’s mouth. The soft tissue gave way quickly and the steel penetrated the correspondent’s brain stem. Ron Costello was clinically dead in four seconds.
Michaels stalks the woman who forced his resignation from the network and throws her off a balcony. He next murders a television research consultant who had advised the local station to dismiss him: he buries the guy in beach sand up to his neck and lets him slowly drown. Finally, during a break in the Radio and Television News Directors Association convention, he slits the throat of the station manager. O’Reilly describes each of these killings—the careful planning, the suffering of the victim, the act itself—in loving detail.
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What a sick piece of work BOR is!!
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Kellan, I'm glad I missed that show. Actually I haven't had the stomach to watch him for quite a while. But a lot of people do, and in spite of him being outrageous!
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| tulsad
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I have to agree with ATA; if Fox can pull it off, BOR will stay right were he is - making big money for them. When the young woman sued him, there was a huge backlash against him; he spun it by counter-suing her - then paid her off; but he weathered the storm and people basically forgot about it. Despite his claim of being a "no spin zone" he is a master of spin, his audience hangs on his every word as if it were sent from above - and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they forgive and forget AGAIN. If that is the case, Fox isn't going to get rid of their biggest money maker; their credibility and ratings are sinking already, if they lose him, it will be a tremendous financial lose. It's disgusting - as is O'Reilly - but it's corporate America; the almight $ talks loud and clear.
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The real kicker? O'Reilly is scheduled to be the keynote speaker at a $500 a plate fund-raiser in March for MISSING AND EXPLOITED CHILDREN!!
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| chrysalis wrote: | | The real kicker? O'Reilly is scheduled to be the keynote speaker at a $500 a plate fund-raiser in March for MISSING AND EXPLOITED CHILDREN!! |
Again, there is a reason for that! Ticket sales = $$
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| victims cry
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| ATA wrote: | | victims cry wrote: | ATA in some ways i agree with you, if they did not boot him for this sexual harassment of a subordinate (i.e a workplace predator) it is unlikely they will now.
HOWEVER I THINK HE HAS NOW DISGUSTED EVEN HIS FANS. I actually like fox during the day as my background tv. They have interesting alerts of tidbits around the country and the afternoon ppl, bar Gibson at 5 are not controversial. I even love Shep . I despise fox.
I have watched msnbc and CNN most of today. Not out of preference. I know my viewing doesnt make a diff but 10 million will.
Suggesting a child abducted at gunpoint, kept captive and almost certainly sexually abused (what did he need ben for if it was not that shawn had outgrown the preferential age.. bet that he only got his freedoms in the last year too..when he got tall and not "boyish" - less interest for devlin) LIKED IT!!!!!!! that it was better than with this "old parents"
If that isnt out of NAMBLA's handbook as FGL said, then show me something they say that is different in terms of "liking it".
Nambla = North American Man Boy Love Association |
I'm not gonna show you anything! Your post comes off as if i agree with BOR!
Nowhere did i say he was right or that i was in support of his comments.
I was simply pointing out the ratings. He has the highest rated news show in any time slot! There is a reason for that! People call him a baffoon and there are websites that ridicule him, but the bottom line is $$$$$$$$$$$ |
WHOA ATA> NO WAY DO I THINK YOU AGREED!!!
sorry if it came across like that, what i meant is yes i agree dollars do the talking but the rest of my post was directed generically at the ppl who suggest he is just "asking questions" or otherwise not sounding like an evil predator himself.
i am sorry if the quotes made it sound like i thought you agred  I know that no thinking person could think Shawn "liked it" and where i disagree with you is that if we all take the realistic view our watching him won't make a diff then there will be no diff, but this time i think its possible to IF ppl put politics aside and react vs his perverse and sick comments.
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| Hannie
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O`Reilly is just a pompous prick and asshole of the worst kind, i would love to kick him hard in his old testicles....
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| tulsad
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| HannieC wrote: | | O`Reilly is just a pompous prick and asshole of the worst kind, i would love to kick him hard in his old testicles.... |
 I see someone's been teaching you the naughty English words, Hannie! BTW - you speak English perfectly; did you grow up speaking both Dutch and English? I feel so stupid - I'm uni-lingual. 
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Nah not perfect at all, but i can manage, lmao!
I didn`t grow up speaking both languages, but had English in school ( many moons ago, )
So when I first came onto the boards in the beginning of this case, you could say it was a "bit rusty" ,
But in general almost all Dutch people speak English since it is teached already in first grade nowadays. And later on French and you can choose Spanish etc.
I believe our Queen speaks 14 languages or so...
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