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Heli PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:49 pm

FBI 302 of Lee Ashford Broughton

Posted at BFN by Debbie on January 31, 2007
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spngbobthebldr PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:57 pm

Thanks for bringing it over Heli.
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gagal_05 PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:58 pm

So who was the guy in the orange shirt and the other guy?
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Heli PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:02 pm

There's certainly facts in Lee's 302 that I'd never heard before.
Natalee doing bodyshots on the bar long before Joran showed
up at the bar being most notable.
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gagal_05 PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:06 pm

Heli wrote:
There's certainly facts in Lee's 302 that I'd never heard before.
Natalee doing bodyshots on the bar long before Joran showed
up at the bar being most notable.


I caught that too, Heli.

Thanks for bringing this over. Very Happy
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Isanah PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:07 pm

WOW! Probably the closest to truth that we will ever read! Juron LNU does not seem to be the Joran that we DO know the last name of! Can't these MB teens get their shit together, and match the names with the actual person they are referring to?




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Heli PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:07 pm

gagal_05 wrote:
So who was the guy in the orange shirt and the other guy?


Good question. I recall it was said that some MB kids were shown
pictures by ALE when they came to Birmingham in January, 2006.
Think they were attempting to have Lee identify the two guys she
spoke of in her 302? Interview of them would certainly be in order
if they'd been identified.
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gagal_05 PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:09 pm

Heli wrote:
gagal_05 wrote:
So who was the guy in the orange shirt and the other guy?


Good question. I recall it was said that some MB kids were shown
pictures by ALE when they came to Birmingham in January, 2006.
Think they were attempting to have Lee identify the two guys she
spoke of in her 302? Interview of them would certainly be in order
if they'd been identified.


Good possibility and interesting that this has not been released until now.
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Heli PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:10 pm

Isanah wrote:
WOW! Probably the closest to truth that we will ever read! Juron LNU does not seem to be the Joran that we DO know the last name of! Can't these MB teens get their shit together, and match the names with the actual person they are referring to?


Joran LNU (last name unknown) that Lee refers to meeting at the
casino, going to the bar with and later meeting again at C & C's
later in the evening is Joran van der Sloot. I didn't get the idea
from her 302 that she was unsure about who he was.

She merely did not know his last name at the date of giving her
statement to the FBI on June 3, 2007.
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Isanah PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:11 pm

gagal_05 wrote:
Heli wrote:
There's certainly facts in Lee's 302 that I'd never heard before.
Natalee doing bodyshots on the bar long before Joran showed
up at the bar being most notable.


I caught that too, Heli.

Thanks for bringing this over. Very Happy




Then add that Lee last saw Natalee on the stage with Juron LNU watching her! No wonder Lee had nightmares! She obviously found these "two guys" suspicious. However, when she can not find Natalee at the other bar, she goes back to the hotel and a couple of hours later she goes asleep! WTF???




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gagal_05 PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:12 pm

Isanah wrote:
gagal_05 wrote:
Heli wrote:
There's certainly facts in Lee's 302 that I'd never heard before.
Natalee doing bodyshots on the bar long before Joran showed
up at the bar being most notable.


I caught that too, Heli.

Thanks for bringing this over. Very Happy




Then add that Lee last saw Natalee on the stage with Juron LNU watching her! No wonder Lee had nightmares! She obviously found these "two guys" suspicious. However, when she can not find Natalee at the other bar, she goes back to the hotel and a couple of hours later she goes asleep! WTF???


That has been one thing I have never understood. They all just said they thought she was with someone else. That just never washed with me.
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Isanah PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:13 pm

Heli wrote:
Isanah wrote:
WOW! Probably the closest to truth that we will ever read! Juron LNU does not seem to be the Joran that we DO know the last name of! Can't these MB teens get their shit together, and match the names with the actual person they are referring to?


Joran LNU (last name unknown) that Lee refers to meeting at the
casino, going to the bar with and later meeting again at C & C's
later in the evening is Joran van der Sloot. I didn't get the idea
from her 302 that she was unsure about who he was.

She merely did not know his last name at the date of giving her
statement to the FBI on June 3, 2007.



That isn't the way I read it. By her descriptions of the events of that night, it seemed she identified the wrong guy as Juron.




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Heli PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:15 pm

Isanah wrote:
gagal_05 wrote:
Heli wrote:
There's certainly facts in Lee's 302 that I'd never heard before.
Natalee doing bodyshots on the bar long before Joran showed
up at the bar being most notable.


I caught that too, Heli.

Thanks for bringing this over. Very Happy




Then add that Lee last saw Natalee on the stage with Juron LNU watching her! No wonder Lee had nightmares! She obviously found these "two guys" suspicious. However, when she can not find Natalee at the other bar, she goes back to the hotel and a couple of hours later she goes asleep! WTF???


I found that bizarre, particularly given her statement about the
dudes who seemed to be leering not only at her, Lee, but also at
Natalee, on the bus as well as at C & C's.

The only explanation would be that it was not the first occasion
where Natalee vanished from the group or took off late at night
with person or persons unknown. She'd always turned up on the
other days ...
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Isanah PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:15 pm

Then what about the quote that Natalee had met Juron earlier that day at the beach?




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spngbobthebldr PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:16 pm

Heli wrote:
Isanah wrote:
gagal_05 wrote:
Heli wrote:
There's certainly facts in Lee's 302 that I'd never heard before.
Natalee doing bodyshots on the bar long before Joran showed
up at the bar being most notable.


I caught that too, Heli.

Thanks for bringing this over. Very Happy




Then add that Lee last saw Natalee on the stage with Juron LNU watching her! No wonder Lee had nightmares! She obviously found these "two guys" suspicious. However, when she can not find Natalee at the other bar, she goes back to the hotel and a couple of hours later she goes asleep! WTF???


I found that bizarre, particularly given her statement about the
dudes who seemed to be leering not only at her, Lee, but also at
Natalee, on the bus as well as at C & C's.

The only explanation would be that it was not the first occasion
where Natalee vanished from the group or took off late at night
with person or persons unknown. She'd always turned up on the
other days ...



That could be. Remember she missed breakfast a couple of times.
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gagal_05 PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:19 pm

Was the "guy in the orange shirt with the hair banded into little balls", the rasta guy?
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Heli PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:19 pm

Isanah wrote:
Heli wrote:
Isanah wrote:
WOW! Probably the closest to truth that we will ever read! Juron LNU does not seem to be the Joran that we DO know the last name of! Can't these MB teens get their shit together, and match the names with the actual person they are referring to?


Joran LNU (last name unknown) that Lee refers to meeting at the
casino, going to the bar with and later meeting again at C & C's
later in the evening is Joran van der Sloot. I didn't get the idea
from her 302 that she was unsure about who he was.

She merely did not know his last name at the date of giving her
statement to the FBI on June 3, 2007.



That isn't the way I read it. By her descriptions of the events of that night, it seemed she identified the wrong guy as Juron.


Can't agree with you on that. She met Joran at the casino, where
she learned his first name; Natalee and her along with Joran went
to another bar from there and later after they'd been doing body
shots etc at C&C's, Joran showed up there. I didn't see any
ambiguity in her statement as to Joran's identity at any time that
evening.
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Isanah PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:28 pm

Isanah wrote:
Then what about the quote that Natalee had met Juron earlier that day at the beach?




Heli?




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dugo PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:29 pm

This is in early June 05, right!? Pre Dompigs pleadings for more interviews, right!? Just want to get the timeframe correct here.
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Isanah PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:30 pm

Then all the talk about Natalee asking Joran to dance? In Lee's statements, Natalee doesn't ever talk to Juran LNU!




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Isanah PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:33 pm

What about the friend that "met" Juran? I wonder if there is any tape where Joran is "met" by a man as described by Lee.




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Need2Know PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:34 pm

Vewwwwwwwwwy Intewesting Shocked So her roommate makes one attempt at trying to locate her and then three hours later just goes to sleep? It seems blatantly obvious to me that this behavior of hooking up with who knows who and spending nights out of the rooms was a common theme on this trip, which is why nothing seemed out of the ordinary. So according to Lee, she went to her room and fell asleep "between 3 - 4:00 a.m.? So if Natalee came back, missed her, and then left again, who would know? Seems everybody was blasted! Anyone looking at Natalee and Lee and whoever else may have been present would see how they were acting - belly shots, dancing on the stage and intoxicated - and may have taken a liking and had the impression they were very care free. Many men get the impression that women who are acting in a seductive manner are fair game for attempts at sexual activity. Throw lots of alchohol into the mix and you have a recipe for unwanted attempts at being picked up for fun and games and could lead to trouble with unknown, freaky strangers.
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spngbobthebldr PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:35 pm

dugo wrote:
This is in early June 05, right!? Pre Dompigs pleadings for more interviews, right!? Just want to get the timeframe correct here.



Yes it is but some of the comments in the 302's didn't match what the kids were saying in tv interviews so the ALE wanted to question them again.

I've never understood the big deal made about the ALE wanting to question them. People suspected of crimes who are caught by other police agencies are often questioned by the police who catch them then again by the police investigating the crime.

John Couey comes to mind. He was questioned by the Augusta police then again by police investigating Jessie Lunsfords murder. It is perfectly understandable that the investigating agency would want to ask questions themselves instead of relying on questions asked by police who aren't as familiar with the case.
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Josie PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:37 pm

Isanah wrote:
Then what about the quote that Natalee had met Juron earlier that day at the beach?


That is worded in a way that sounds like Lee is repeating something she heard, rather than from her own knowledge.




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Isanah PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:42 pm

Josie wrote:
Isanah wrote:
Then what about the quote that Natalee had met Juron earlier that day at the beach?


That is worded in a way that sounds like Lee is repeating something she heard, rather than from her own knowledge.




That seems to sum up all of the MB statements, they are all bullshit through hearsay! Yes, the truth lies in MB. None of them have told the truth, just hearsay and confusion at the expense of Joran.




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