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pawleys
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:36 am |
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 hey Pat!!!
can't find the statements that say what time J2K arrived, but i did find...
Whatley made the statement about suspicious man in uniform at the door,
OH...and Jug called her about any tattoos on Natalee. (weird, i thought he knew everything to a "T").
Watson states that she took a taxi to CnCs.
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| iquitos
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Ruth
Ruth McVay: (responding to questions whether Natalee made an arrangement with Joran to go to Carlos 'n Charlies) Not with him. Absolutely not. With us. She went with all of our friends. He wasn't with us. He didn't go with us. He (Joran) came with his friends. He had told us that night that Sunday was not a fun night on the island and that no one goes out. So we found it ironic that he showed up. source
this reads to me like she was there when joran arrived and left natalee to have her way with him.
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:00 am |
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| pawleys wrote: | hey Pat!!!
can't find the statements that say what time J2K arrived, but i did find...
Whatley made the statement about suspicious man in uniform at the door,
OH...and Jug called her about any tattoos on Natalee. (weird, i thought he knew everything to a "T").
Watson states that she took a taxi to CnCs. |
Hi pawleys!!
I think that Deepak and Satish both say in their alleged 6/11 statements that they arrived at 12:30 AM. Not certain...but rings a bell.
I can never find the PV's on here..
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| pawleys
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:35 am |
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| resigned wrote: | | pawleys wrote: | hey Pat!!!
can't find the statements that say what time J2K arrived, but i did find...
Whatley made the statement about suspicious man in uniform at the door,
OH...and Jug called her about any tattoos on Natalee. (weird, i thought he knew everything to a "T").
Watson states that she took a taxi to CnCs. |
Hi pawleys!!
I think that Deepak and Satish both say in their alleged 6/11 statements that they arrived at 12:30 AM. Not certain...but rings a bell.
I can never find the PV's on here.. |
that rings my bells, too
because J2K were not at CnCs for very long before it closed.
i believe Watson has Natalee bumming a cigarette between 12:30 and 12:45,
and trying to get the Anderson girl to hook up with some guys she just met.
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:47 am |
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| pawleys wrote: | | resigned wrote: | | pawleys wrote: | hey Pat!!!
can't find the statements that say what time J2K arrived, but i did find...
Whatley made the statement about suspicious man in uniform at the door,
OH...and Jug called her about any tattoos on Natalee. (weird, i thought he knew everything to a "T").
Watson states that she took a taxi to CnCs. |
Hi pawleys!!
I think that Deepak and Satish both say in their alleged 6/11 statements that they arrived at 12:30 AM. Not certain...but rings a bell.
I can never find the PV's on here.. |
that rings my bells, too
because J2K were not at CnCs for very long before it closed.
i believe Watson has Natalee bumming a cigarette between 12:30 and 12:45,
and trying to get the Anderson girl to hook up with some guys she just met. |
Ruth's a big fat liar I think. Right down to that she was tired story.
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| pawleys
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:48 am |
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isn't Ruth the one who wasn't feeling well, left early?
she was the Lucky Charm girl.
Whatley states here that she (and Lee) mentioned CnCs to Joran, after he won money for Ruth...
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| all10suspects
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:51 am |
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As per Joran's 6/9/2005 statement they left his apartment at 00:15
to go to C&C.
The bar closes at 1am but they had to get to the bar for the last 30 minutes. So Ruth was long gone by the time J2K got to C&C.
Joran also points out about the tourist that wanted his cup outsdie of C&C.
Did the ALE ever verfiy this? This person would be a good witness.
Joran also points out when shown Natalee's picture by the ALE
he says that it was Natalee. So Joran knows it was Natalee! No other
girl but Natalee!
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| pawleys
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:51 am |
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Ruth's a big fat liar I think. Right down to that she was tired story. |
i think something "more" went on here too.
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| iquitos
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:30 am |
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i wonder why
the fbi spells ruth's last name wrong.
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| pawleys
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:40 am |
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Re: i wonder why
| iquitos wrote: | | the fbi spells ruth's last name wrong. |
they sure did!!!
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| pawleys
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:51 am |
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| resigned wrote: |
Hi pawleys!!
I think that Deepak and Satish both say in their alleged 6/11 statements that they arrived at 12:30 AM. Not certain...but rings a bell.
I can never find the PV's on here.. |
almost forgot, i saw some PVs here... http://www.refugeesnleashed.net/viewforum.php?f=9
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:58 am |
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| pawleys wrote: | | resigned wrote: |
Hi pawleys!!
I think that Deepak and Satish both say in their alleged 6/11 statements that they arrived at 12:30 AM. Not certain...but rings a bell.
I can never find the PV's on here.. |
almost forgot, i saw some PVs here... http://www.refugeesnleashed.net/viewforum.php?f=9 |
Thanks pawleys, but it's not coming up. 
They used to be on the moderated NH discussion, but I don't know where that went.
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| pawleys
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:07 am |
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wow...won't link thru to it! 
that's the same as this? http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/viewforum.php?f=9
anyway, on index page...the transcripts section, on page one i saw the june 13 PVs of joran and deepak. i think the others are probably in this section...
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| pawleys
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:10 am |
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ok...the 2nd time i did not do the url tag, the first time i did.
guess you don't have to use it on a link to that section?
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| MF
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:51 pm |
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| all10suspects wrote: | So Joran knows it was Natalee! No other
girl but Natalee! |
You starting to sound like Beth, just like she knew that Natalee was not a drinker, did not do drugs, was a virgin and that she knew she was getting into a cab....
And appologies in advance to having compared you to Beth. 
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| all10suspects
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 2:43 pm |
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| MF wrote: | | all10suspects wrote: | So Joran knows it was Natalee! No other
girl but Natalee! |
You starting to sound like Beth, just like she knew that Natalee was not a drinker, did not do drugs, was a virgin and that she knew she was getting into a cab....
And appologies in advance to having compared you to Beth. |
Thats ok.
I just think if Joran was shown a picture of a girl he would know if it was her or not. I do not think Paul would have let Joran sit in jail for 116 days
if thier was the slightlest chance that the girl was not Natalee.
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 3:20 pm |
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| pawleys wrote: | ok...the 2nd time i did not do the url tag, the first time i did.
guess you don't have to use it on a link to that section? |
Thank you, pawleys.
I wonder what happened to the moderated section where they were all in one place.
Somebody take it with them?
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| yankee-in-france
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 3:27 pm |
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I agree with you, All10. I believe that Natalee was with Joran that night, however, they were together for such a very short period of time that a name would not necessarily ring a bell with Joran as he may not have known her last name nor have remembered her first name. If, however, he had harmed her in any way, you better believe that there would have been a solid statement and one that would have been irrefutable.
Joran reacted as a typical teen caught for sneaking out after his Dad thought he was home for the night. You guys just don't get it. Was it right that he did it? No, it wasn't, but deal with it, because that is all there is.
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| Glenda
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 4:09 pm |
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J2K arrived at 12:33 am, there is a picture with a date and time stamp taken by a tourist and you can see Joran walking into CnC. When Joran arrived, he went to speak to his Lucky Charm (Ruth) and she acted not interest anymore, so he headed to the bar.
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| all10suspects
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| Glenda wrote: | | J2K arrived at 12:33 am, there is a picture with a date and time stamp taken by a tourist and you can see Joran walking into CnC. When Joran arrived, he went to speak to his Lucky Charm (Ruth) and she acted not interest anymore, so he headed to the bar. |
So its a 15 minute ride from Joran'a apartment to C&C. Since Joran says they left his apartment at 00:15.
At 1:18 the car is time stamped on a video store camera. Add
15 minutes to go to his apartment. By 1:33am they get to his apartment.
How long do they stay without going in?
They the go the to the lighthouse and do not get out of the car except
Deepak had to pee.
Is that enough time for Natalee and Joran to be at the beach at 1:50am
and for 2K to be home at 2am?
I think the timeline is kind of tight for all of that to happen!
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| doc
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Re: senator reynolds
| iquitos wrote: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_R._Reynolds
Robert Rice Reynolds
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(Redirected from Robert R. Reynolds)
Robert Rice Reynolds (18 June 1884 - 13 February 1963) was a Democratic U.S. senator from the state of North Carolina between 1932 and 1945.
Originally from the town of Asheville, where he had practiced law, Reynolds was in close contact and sympathy with William Dudley Pelley's pro-Nazi Silver Legion of America.
Reynolds first ran for the United States Senate in 1926, but was not successful. He ran again in 1932 and defeated interim Senator Cameron Morrison in the Democratic primary by nearly two to one after running a particularly nasty campaign, which accused Morrison of being a Communist sympathizer. During one campaign speech, he proclaimed, "Cam likes fish eggs, and Red Russian fish eggs at that. Don't you want a Senator who likes North Carolina hen eggs?" |
Is this person related to Beth?
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:15 pm |
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| Glenda wrote: | | J2K arrived at 12:33 am, there is a picture with a date and time stamp taken by a tourist and you can see Joran walking into CnC. When Joran arrived, he went to speak to his Lucky Charm (Ruth) and she acted not interest anymore, so he headed to the bar. |
Thanks Glenda, I had not heard this before.
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| pawleys
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:02 pm |
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| Glenda wrote: | | J2K arrived at 12:33 am, there is a picture with a date and time stamp taken by a tourist and you can see Joran walking into CnC. When Joran arrived, he went to speak to his Lucky Charm (Ruth) and she acted not interest anymore, so he headed to the bar. |
thanks, Glenda!
i knew it was an incredibly short period of time that J2K were actually there.
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| pawleys
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:07 pm |
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| resigned wrote: | | pawleys wrote: | ok...the 2nd time i did not do the url tag, the first time i did.
guess you don't have to use it on a link to that section? |
Thank you, pawleys.
I wonder what happened to the moderated section where they were all in one place.
Somebody take it with them? |
i think they did!
i looked through quite a few pages in the archives...couldn't find the grouping.
Did they get thrown into HE?
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:24 pm |
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| pawleys wrote: | | resigned wrote: | | pawleys wrote: | ok...the 2nd time i did not do the url tag, the first time i did.
guess you don't have to use it on a link to that section? |
Thank you, pawleys.
I wonder what happened to the moderated section where they were all in one place.
Somebody take it with them? |
i think they did!
i looked through quite a few pages in the archives...couldn't find the grouping.
Did they get thrown into HE? |
I didnt take it anywhere and I was looking for it the other day and couldnt find it either. Good question.
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