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blenchi

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:50 am

WordsofWisdom wrote:

doc wrote:

WordsofWisdom wrote:

SMreject1977 wrote:

please post a link that shows nat saying her name was kathleen i dare you!! Double dare you!!

Joran is the one that said it (to CC, IIRC)
At his house, in front of the posse.

Oh well if Joran said it, then....

Rolling Eyes

Beth lied a lot more than Joran did.
His was a typical teen lie.
Hers are not.

You are so right WofW. He was 17. But a woman lying at the age of 40? Rolling Eyes

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all10suspects

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:51 am

blenchi wrote:

Quote:

all10suspects:Well Joran remebered Kathleen after a short time at the casino. Why would he not remeber Natalee after being with her from at least 12:30am
until 2:50am. Thats more than 2 hours with a girl one on one. You think
he would remeber if it was Natalee or someone else.

If a boy finds a girl attractive he remembers alright. Natalee for him was like one of the many American girls. She went after him not Joran. If I talk to someone which I am not at all interested in for a few hours because I have to I can tell you I won't remember his face nor his name.

Joran said the girl he was with was from AL. How many blonde American
girls from AL were in C&C that night? How many girls knew Joran enough
to go after him? An MB girl at the casino finds Joran hot and goes after him
again at C&C. Kind of narrow the list of girls down. Espcailly since Joran
says he did not see Kathleen after the casino. How many blonde MB girls were at the casino and then again later at C&C? I would guess not to many. The one Joran wanted did not go. Thats one less blonde. Lee is to
tall I think Joran would remeber her. Thats 2 less blondes from MB. Not sure what the othe girls look like. But Kathleen and Lee are off the list. Who does that leave thats blonde, was at the caisno and later at C&C?

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blenchi

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:55 am

Quote:

all10suspects:I would guess not to many.

I would guess not too many." Keep on guessing!

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all10suspects

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:30 am

I almost made a seperate thread but since I am in a hurry will not.

Ok - Real facts!!

I just received an email from Zvezdana - Joran's publicist. I have been told by her that I am the only on line person that she has ever communicated with. I was asked to contact her months ago by Joran. She and I have become friends. She is a lovely kind sweet young lady!!!

So far anything that might have been reported, about delays or about not publishing this book is just not true!

Just like with everything else in this case someone has heard just a partial story and they are reading into it what is not there. Even the hearing, you just do not have all the facts!!! Victor you obviously do not know the real reason for the hearing, I DO, and it is not going to stop the book. So I just do not know who is telling you this information - and by the way neither does Zvezdana, because she does not know who you are.

Even if someone got part of Joran's notes, it was so long ago, it would not matter. They were not that far along, in the book - so that is a non issue!! And it is no ones business about any of the other stuff. And yes I guess there will be some article today in a Dutch paper that was misquoted, that does not matter either. I think there will also be a retraction tomorrow in the same Dutch paper.

So I really wish that everyone would stop the specualtion here. Just offering some snippet that you think is going to be helpful for online readers to sit around and discuss, when there really is nothing to it IMO does noone any good.

Again, I am posting this right after I received the current information from Zvezdana - who by the way was reading her at FOB, and found this all ridicuolous!!

Nice that she knows where to read -- FOB -- for current, accurate information.

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blenchi

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:48 am

I am sure she reads RU too not only FOB Medley. Wink

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iquitos

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:55 am

the hearing in holland

so there will be a hearing in holland on monday. as we have seen the article in the paper was referring to the nyc suit. now, who is behind this suit? does it have to do with the leaked galleys? there could be an HMI hand here. part of their harrassment campaign? lead up to another round of anti-joran work after his book creates the news window?

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Hannie

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:58 am

Re: the hearing in holland

iquitos wrote:

so there will be a hearing in holland on monday. as we have seen the article in the paper was referring to the nyc suit. now, who is behind this suit? does it have to do with the leaked galleys? there could be an him hand here. part of their harrassment campaign? lead up to another round of anti-joran work after his book creates the news window?

No iquitos, i think like Moon said it has to do with a name in the book....

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Black-Tulip

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:29 pm

I happened to be in Leiden today and took this picture for iquitos. Publisher A.W. Sijthoff.

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iquitos

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:41 pm

nice picture, nice building

hard to read the sign. what do you call that architectural style?

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Black-Tulip

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:48 am

Re: nice picture, nice building

iquitos wrote:

hard to read the sign. what do you call that architectural style?

1851-1908 A.W. SIJTHOFF'S UITGEVERS-MAATSCHAPPIJ

Publishing business.

Respectable and famous. The founder, Sijthoff, the was a remarkable and successfull printer/publisher of books and papers. He is from the city of Leiden.

I don't know the style of this (former) premises, it looks like a mixture to me. Commercial eclectisism (?). I like it.

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iquitos

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:28 pm

new books by caribbean authors:

http://surinaams.caribiana.nl/Cultuur/car20070118_versvandepers

Boekenliefhebbers kunnen dit voorjaar weer hun hart ophalen. Niet minder dan 10.000 titels zullen er de komende maanden op de markt komen. Van Caribische schrijvers zijn binnenkort onder meer verkrijgbaar de langverwachte Bingo! van Clark Accord, 13866, te gek om los te lopen van Jörgen Raymann en het boek van Joran van der Sloot, de verdachte van de verdwijning van de Amerikaanse scholiere Natalee Holloway op Aruba. Deze en vele andere uitgaven werden gepresenteerd tijdens de boekenbeurs Vers voor de Pers in de Meervaart in Amsterdam.

and the book by joran van der sloot the suspect in the disappearance of the student natalee holloway in aruba

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Black-Tulip

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:21 pm

iquitos wrote:

... Veel uitgeverijen hadden dit boek graag willen hebben. Na een stevige strijd tussen vier uitgevers, is het uitgeverij Sijthoff gelukt de rechten voor de publicatie te bemachtigen.

... Many publishers would have loved to have this book. After a firm fight between four publishers, Sijthoff sucessfully got hold of the publication rights.

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M***R

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:48 pm

blenchi wrote:

I am sure she reads RU too not only FOB Medley. Wink

And you would be wrong! sorry she only has time for one site. And she knows which site supports Joran 100% Wink

By the way when I made this post I was speaking of Z, not the VDS family.

Hi Klassless, nice to know you are following me around AGAIN!! Rolling Eyes

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all10suspects

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:27 pm

Over at FOB they are saying the book may be dalyed because someone
does not want their name to be published. Now they say it is a male. If
it is one of Joran's friends what the big deal if all he did was leave Natalee
on the beach? Or could it be this friend or person related to this case knows what happened and does not want to be part of Joran's lies anymore?

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Also_Dutch

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:08 pm

all10suspects wrote:

This is a high profile case, it is perfectly understandable that certain people do not want to be named in whatever recognisable way. What is wrong with that? Maybe the person in question attends a US (maybe even an Alabama) college right now. 99 percent of the people on this board don't even use their real names!

People have a right to remain private even if they are just suspects in a crime under investigation!

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sheranaway

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:29 pm

all10suspects wrote:

Surely you don't believe anything you read over there? Better stick to your Scared Monkeys site. Laughing

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iwabwu

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:37 pm

Also_Dutch wrote:

all10suspects wrote:

Maybe it's someone well past college? Could there name be linked to interviews? Suspect/witness testimony? If they are in the US, how many people at a typical college would be fluent in Dutch?

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yankee-in-france

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:41 pm

all10suspects wrote:

All10, do you REALLY believe that there is someone out there who knows the whole truth and is giving up the reward money but is spending money to hire an attorney in Holland so that his full name is not mentioned in the book? Does that not sound a bit ridiculous to you? Go ahead, take some time and have another think about this one!

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Hannie

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:42 pm

M***R wrote:

blenchi wrote:

I am sure she reads RU too not only FOB Medley. Wink

And you would be wrong! sorry she only has time for one site. And she knows which site supports Joran 100% Wink

By the way when I made this post I was speaking of Z, not the VDS family.

Hi Klassless, nice to know you are following me around AGAIN!! Rolling Eyes

Jan who is Klassless??

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all10suspects

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:48 pm

yankee-in-france wrote:

all10suspects wrote:

Well Freddy knew the truth. The so called beach story. Who knows what someone may know. Or maybe this person just deos not want to be linked with soemthing bad!

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Hannie

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:51 pm

Ok i guess I can say it now, it`s Li'l Shango`s name that I don`t want in that book, so I asked Mr Spong to represent the Li'l Shit, i just don`t want the world to know how he was conceived and all......

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dugo

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:10 pm

HannieC wrote:

M***R wrote:

Hi Klassless, nice to know you are following me around AGAIN!! Rolling Eyes

Jan who is Klassless??

dat is degene die de klasse heeft om te pas en te onpas je posts over te hevelen naar zijn berichten bord, maar het je tegelijkertijd onmogelijk maakt er zelf ook maar iets uit te kramen. (have fun parsing that through the fish Klassless!)

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Hannie

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:12 pm

dugo wrote:

HannieC wrote:

M***R wrote:

Hi Klassless, nice to know you are following me around AGAIN!! Rolling Eyes

Jan who is Klassless??

Yes but where is this person, Jan did say she was followed on here so I wonder who she means is klassless? Blenchi sure isn`t klassless, she is my cousin, so i`m confused now.....

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M***R

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:12 pm

dugo wrote:

HannieC wrote:

M***R wrote:

Hi Klassless, nice to know you are following me around AGAIN!! Rolling Eyes

Jan who is Klassless??

I assume that Dugo answered but have no idea what he said -- the ever so nice lady that runs the Primate site!! Klassend Shocked

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Hannie

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:19 pm

M***R wrote:

dugo wrote:

HannieC wrote:

M***R wrote:

Hi Klassless, nice to know you are following me around AGAIN!! Rolling Eyes

Jan who is Klassless??

I assume that Dugo answered but have no idea what he said -- the ever so nice lady that runs the Primate site!! Klassend Shocked

Yes but you said, she followed you around to here, i thought that you meant that a poster here was one and the same..... Laughing

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