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SMreject1977
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Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:08 pm |
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I love the theory that nat didnt even leave with J2K. Honestly those who espouse to that theory should have been on team j2k in the beginning of the cover up. I mean they already cleaned ANY trace of her being in the car why not just say hey she didnt come with us. However, if she didnt go with Joran who's mom is related to Hitler? That would be a shocker to those beth haters out there!!
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| WordsofWisdom
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Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:12 pm |
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| M***R wrote: | | Always enjoy your posts WofW and your optomism -- and who knows maybe you are right!! |
I try.
I really do try.
Until we KNOW, I will continue to try and figure this out. 
The charges against "Daddy" brings up that same damn company again... HealthSouth.
MONTGOMERY, Ala., May 1 The federal bribery and racketeering trial of former Gov. Donald Siegelman of Alabama and the former HealthSouth chief executive Richard M. Scrushy
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| WordsofWisdom
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Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:16 pm |
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| SMreject1977 wrote: | | I love the theory that nat didnt even leave with J2K. Honestly those who espouse to that theory should have been on team j2k in the beginning of the cover up. I mean they already cleaned ANY trace of her being in the car why not just say hey she didnt come with us. However, if she didnt go with Joran who's mom is related to Hitler? That would be a shocker to those beth haters out there!! |
Joran's initial reaction when shown a picture of Natalee was, "I was with an American Girl, but not THAT American girl.".
What, exactly, did they "clean away"? 
Who's mom?
There were several MB girls that referred to their mother's as Hitler's sister in their Face Book. Take your pick. My bet is still on Madison.
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attended a neighboring high school
TRIBUTE TO ALABAMA'S VESTAVIA HILLS HIGH SCHOOL
Wednesday, June 21, 2006
Mr. SESSIONS. Mr. President, I would like to make some remarks today about Alabama's State champion and national finalist in the ``We the People'' competition. Vestavia Hills High School placed fourth in the national We the People: The Citizen and the Constitution national finals, held in Washington, DC. This impressive competition, headed by the Center for Civic Education, engaged young people in the fundamental ideals and values of American constitutional government.
Members of this remarkable team from Vestavia Hills included Grace Anthony, Georgiy Bolshinskiy, Barrett Bowdre, Courtney Bragg, Jeannette Dooley, Daniel Driscoll, Claire Foster, Sarah Graffeo, Lauren Howard, Sarah McKibben, Patrick Mulligan, John Nicholson, Tiffany Parrish, Hanna Perry, John Phillips, Joseph Siegelman, Mary Kendal Spires, William Edward Stevenson, Emily Unnasch, Amy Watson, Ryan Woodford, and Ansley Zarra.
I congratulate Amy Maddox, the teacher who led this fine team. Teachers shape the future, and I appreciate Ms. Maddox's investment in these students. As a former educator and the father of three children, I have a great admiration for educators, and I am grateful that educators like Ms. Maddox are making a difference.
I thank U.S. District Judge Karon Bowdre for her involvement and support of the Vestavia Hills High School team. Judge Bowdre is a person of great intellectual and academic ability who understands and reveres our Constitution. I am very proud that she has given of her talents to this worthy project.
I thank Janice Cowin, the executive director of the Alabama Center for Law and Civic Education.
I applaud the efforts of students, teachers, and community leaders who made this accomplishment possible. Vestavia Hills High School is an exceptional school and has represented Alabama well. I encourage these students to continue pursuing a deep understanding of the Constitution and our Government. It is important that we raise up quality leaders who will serve our country in years to come.
http://sessions.senate.gov/pressapp/record.cfm?id=257669
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| SMreject1977
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Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:21 pm |
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So WoW you think that the whole time Joran was with herhe never caught her name?
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| WordsofWisdom
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Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:37 pm |
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| SMreject1977 wrote: | | So WoW you think that the whole time Joran was with herhe never caught her name? |
"She" told him her name was Katherine/Kathleen.
Katherine Madison Whatley ............. get it?
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| SavannahStar
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Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:41 pm |
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| M***R wrote: | | SMreject1977 wrote: | | Unfortunatly, sm doesnt like it when I point out the blatent hypocrisy that sometimes goes on there. Much like here yet ive only been banned once and then reinstated because I shouldnt have been banned. Maybe I dont get this online stuff so is everyone who come here supposed to think the same? I was under the impression dissenting views were welcome here at refugees. |
I happen to like dissenting opinions, so no problem with that. I just do not care for name calling, or comments about another person's looks. |
SM never bothered me at all back when he was posting pretty regularly. Seems he came back from his wedding and honeymoon with a very filthy mouth and bad attitude.  
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| Also_Dutch
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Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:08 pm |
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| HannieC wrote: | | To be honest, I don`t like this picture also, i would have thought they could have done better on that one....... |
I am not sure yet, he looks like a marine in that picture. I wonder what some people would say if they were told that the person in the picture was a marine currently serving in Iraq?
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| doc
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Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:52 pm |
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| WordsofWisdom wrote: | | SMreject1977 wrote: | | So WoW you think that the whole time Joran was with herhe never caught her name? |
"She" told him her name was Katherine/Kathleen.
Katherine Madison Whatley ............. get it? |
lol I dont think that's what happened.
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| all10suspects
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Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:56 pm |
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The book has Natalee's name on the cover. I think he knows by now he
was with Natalee and not other MB girl. Or is the book wrong?
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| WordsofWisdom
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Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:27 pm |
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| doc wrote: | | WordsofWisdom wrote: |
"She" told him her name was Katherine/Kathleen.
Katherine Madison Whatley ............. get it? |
lol I dont think that's what happened. |
We KNOW what YOU think happened.
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| M***R
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Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:34 pm |
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| SavannahStar wrote: | | M***R wrote: | | SMreject1977 wrote: | | Unfortunatly, sm doesnt like it when I point out the blatent hypocrisy that sometimes goes on there. Much like here yet ive only been banned once and then reinstated because I shouldnt have been banned. Maybe I dont get this online stuff so is everyone who come here supposed to think the same? I was under the impression dissenting views were welcome here at refugees. |
I happen to like dissenting opinions, so no problem with that. I just do not care for name calling, or comments about another person's looks. |
SM never bothered me at all back when he was posting pretty regularly. Seems he came back from his wedding and honeymoon with a very filthy mouth and bad attitude. |
hmm well good I thought it was just me!!!!! 
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| SMreject1977
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Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:39 pm |
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please post a link that shows nat saying her name was kathleen i dare you!! Double dare you!!
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Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:11 pm |
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http://www.nataleesayshernamewaskathleen.com
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| M***R
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Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:27 pm |
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| resigned wrote: | | http://www.nataleesayshernamewaskathleen.com |
Yep, that link works for me!! 
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| doc
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Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:50 pm |
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| SMreject1977 wrote: | | please post a link that shows nat saying her name was kathleen i dare you!! Double dare you!! |
Didnt happen.
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| tulsad
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Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:54 pm |
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| resigned wrote: | | http://www.nataleesayshernamewaskathleen.com |
Good site; clear and crisp graphics.
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| pax
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Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:55 pm |
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| SMreject1977 wrote: | | please post a link that shows nat saying her name was kathleen i dare you!! Double dare you!! |
Wow. You told them!
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| tulsad
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Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:57 pm |
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| pax wrote: | | SMreject1977 wrote: | | please post a link that shows nat saying her name was kathleen i dare you!! Double dare you!! |
Wow. You told them! |
Now look what you've done you smudgyreject! You scared PH so badly he passed out.  
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| Hannie
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Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:22 am |
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| Also_Dutch wrote: | | HannieC wrote: | | To be honest, I don`t like this picture also, i would have thought they could have done better on that one....... |
I am not sure yet, he looks like a marine in that picture. I wonder what some people would say if they were told that the person in the picture was a marine currently serving in Iraq? |
Don`t know, he looks arrogant, but that`s my opinion of course, i saw much better pics of him....
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| Heli
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Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:47 am |
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| HannieC wrote: | | Also_Dutch wrote: | | HannieC wrote: | | To be honest, I don`t like this picture also, i would have thought they could have done better on that one....... |
I am not sure yet, he looks like a marine in that picture. I wonder what some people would say if they were told that the person in the picture was a marine currently serving in Iraq? |
Don`t know, he looks arrogant, but that`s my opinion of course, i saw much better pics of him.... |
He looks like a skinhead in that pic. It's not a photo that will project
a very positive image in North America I wouldn't think.
Presumably this photo is one that will be viewed favourably in
The Netherlands? It would have to be if they've chosen to put it
on the cover, right?
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| Also_Dutch
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| Heli wrote: |
He looks like a skinhead in that pic. It's not a photo that will project
a very positive image in North America I wouldn't think.
Presumably this photo is one that will be viewed favourably in
The Netherlands? It would have to be if they've chosen to put it
on the cover, right? |
Sometimes even the Dutch can make wrong choices
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| all10suspects
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Posted: Tue Mar 13th, 2007 10:00 pm Quote Reply
FWIW this is (on or about) the translation:
Vukojevic: It is now more then a year ago, and he has been fully slaughtered by the US media for over a year, he has been called a sociopath, a rapist, a murderer, while there is no prove for that whatsoever, and yes her parents are of course very good in playing the US media, and now it is time to hear his side of the story. It seems as if everyone knows everything about Joran and Natalee, and what happened that night, but no one knows the truth yet, and he finds it time to come forward with it.
Noraly Beier: What is his side of the story?
Vukojevic: I cannot tell to much about that yet, it will all be in the book.
Beier: He is the main suspect, I assume he does not agree with that since he is so determined to tell his story.
Vukojevic: Indeed.
Beier: If he did not do it, what does he feels happened to Natalee?
Vujekovec:I cannot tell to much about that also yet, it will all be in the book.
Beier: So, according to him he did not do it, maybe you can enlighten us about what he feels happened?
Vukojevic: I cannot say anything about that yet.
Beier: Do you believe in his innocence?
Vukojevic: Yes, I think the police had tunnel-vision from the start and was wrong in focusing on one suspect, lately more suspects has been looked at, which is a good thing.
Beier: So you don't think he did this, then who did, do you have an idea about that?
Vukojevic: No, no I do not want to speculate about that.
Beier: But will that be in the book?
Vukojevic: Yes, but it is not going to be a book filled with speculations, it will be mainly Joran's story.
Beier: No book filled with speculations, so that means Joran has a solid idea as to what happened that night?
Vukojevic: Yes he has, but I do not want to talk about that now.
Beier: But it will be in the book?
Vukojevic: Yes it will be in the book.
Beier: What do you think, what happened to Natalee?
Vukojevic: Many things could have happened, another person could have been on the beach after Joran left, I mean a few weeks prior a woman had been attacked on Aruba no much attention was paid to that, she would have gone for a swim, anything is possible.
Beier: The theory is that she is dead.
Vukojevic: Everyone hopes she will be found alive and well, but chances are getting smaller when times passes.
Beier: Another theory was that she had been drinking a lot and that she was drugged.
Vukojevic: I have no idea if she was drugged or not.
Beier: Joran van de Sloot did not say anything about that?
Vukojevic: No.
Beier: What do you hope to achieve with this book?
Vukojevic: That the world will hear his side of the story and based on that make a decision; do I believe that boy or do I don't believe that boy. Because until now only one side of this case has been presented, it is time for the other side of this case.
Beier: But isn't that up to a judge?
Vukojevic: Yes, but the problem is, there is no evidence whatsoever, there is no body, there is absolutely no knowledge what happened to her, so it is kind of hard for a judge to judge about that.
Beier: Will this story be based upon your conversations with Joran, or will other people, like for example his parents be included?
Vukojevic: No, it will really only be Joran's side of the story.
The above was taken from Victor over at FOB. About the author saying what the book will be about. I wonder if Joe T had any input in the book?
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| sandraK
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| doc wrote: | | SMreject1977 wrote: | | please post a link that shows nat saying her name was kathleen i dare you!! Double dare you!! |
Didnt happen. |
DID,too
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