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Myra Manes
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Wed May 14, 2008 6:15 pm |
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Elisabeth and the Children Move Forward
| PerryPeabody wrote: | Josef Fritzl's dungeon family speak of joy of being free
mirror.co.uk
By Andy Rudd 14/05/2008
The dungeon family of evil pervert Josef Fritzl have spoken of their joy of being free and hopes of returning to a "normal life".
Hand-painted posters drawn by the family were put on display in the Austrian town of Amstetten, saying: "We, the whole family, would like to take the opportunity to thank all of you for sympathy at our fate.
"Your compassion is helping us greatly to overcome these difficult times, and it shows us that there also are good and honest people here who really care for us.
"We hope that soon there will be a time where we can find our way back into a normal life."
Elisabeth . . . wrote that she hoped for a quick "recovery of my daughter Kerstin, the love of my children, protection of our family" and "people with a lot of heart and understanding".
Doctors said that Kerstin was now in a more stable condition despite still remaining in a coma.
Kerstin sparked the massive police investigation when Josef Fritzl took her to hospital to get emergency treatment on April 19.
Elisabeth's children, Lisa, Stefan and Felix also talked about their hopes for the future.
Lisa, 16, who was not locked in the dungeon, wishes for "love, happiness, health" and "that everything turns out well again".
She misses the sister she has never known, Kerstin, as well as "school and friends."
Stefan, 18, says he’s happy about his new-found freedom but misses his sister Kerstin. He likes “the sun, the fresh air and nature”.
Felix, 6, says he dreams of being driven in a car again and sledging. He had his first ride in a car when he was taken by police after he was freed two weeks ago. He says he wants to “run across a meadow” and play with other children.
Clinic director Berthold Kepplinger explained that although the family were progressing it would still be a long time before they would be allowed out of the clinic.
He said: “What is now clear is that the family will need to remain here for several more months.
"In order to give them a good start in their new life they all need to be very carefully protected and very slowly reintroduced to the real world, and to each other.
"In particular Elisabeth and her two children from the cellar need to have further therapy to help them adjust to the light after years in semidarkness.
"They also needed treatment to help them cope with all the extra space that they now had to move about in.
"This will be achieved with further physiotherapy and Ergotherapy.
"If the treatment is to work properly then it is especially important that we get respect their privacy, the need to this cannot be underestimated.
"We are doing everything we can to protect the family from external stress and stop the risk of the secondary trauma."
He added that family reunion had "gone extremely well" and that the family were all settled into a new daily routine.
The children are playing and enjoying activities like painting. They had also been given a computer which most of the time they were using to play games on.
Dr Kepplinger said: "We are making every effort to give them what they need as a group or as individuals, and we are carefully monitoring progress.
"Eventually we hope to merge all the individual therapies so they work together."
http://tinyurl.com/3o59s3
There are eight pictures of the handdrawn and handprinted poster that Elisabeth and the children drew on this site. I don't know how to bring them to this forum; if someone can do that, I thank that someone. |
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Myra Manes
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SavannahStar
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Wed May 14, 2008 6:52 pm |
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I wonder what Ergotherapy is?
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Wed May 14, 2008 7:01 pm |
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I never heard that term before.
Ergotherapy
Ergotherapy wants to help people who have lost the capacity to act in everyday life due to illness, injury or disability or to help them achieve (again) the capacity to act in everyday life.
Who is treated ergotherapeutically?
People of every age with:
Development retardation
A-D-S (attention deficit syndrome)
Disorders of mental, emotional and social abilities
Gross and fine motor skills
Coordination
Perception
Sensory motor skills
Sensitivity
Our treatment spectrum:
For patients with mental and psychosomatic illnesses and disorders
Training of perception, concentration and memory
Therapy with creative media
Preparation for vocational rehabilitation
Life skills exercises
With retardation and disorders of the child's development and disabilities in childhood
The paramount goal is always decision-making and responsibility and the utmost independence.
To this task belongs, e.g.:
Promotion of
- motor development, gross and fine motor skills, through psychomotor therapy offerings
- Perception processing (sensory integration) through aimed attraction offerings
- Game and learning development
Improvement of
- Movement procedures, tone regulation and coordination
- Body perception and body image
- Concentration and endurance
Development and improvement of socio-emotional competences in the areas of emotional control, emotions, motivation or communication,
Integration of the child into the family and society
Parent counselling
Compensation of permanent deficits, among others, also using aids,
With patients after strokes or craniocerebral trauma
Movement initiation with a neurophysiological basis
Treatment of the perception and sensory disorders
Brain performance training
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SavannahStar
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Wed May 14, 2008 7:24 pm |
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Thanks Pro.
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Myra Manes
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Wed May 14, 2008 7:30 pm |
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It's heart warming to read that elisabeth and the kids are doing so well and taking things in stride......I hope kerstin makes a full recovery.......
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Myra Manes
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Thu May 15, 2008 8:00 am |
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| Black-Tulip wrote: | Okay, some translations.
1. The hand-painted poster was put on display in Amstetten.
2. Stefan said that he misses his sister Kerstin and "likes the sun, fresh air and nature".
He is happy being free and with his family
3. The family were reunited at the weekend in hospital.
Alexander misses the fire brigade, school and his sister Kerstin
4. Elisabeth thanked the public for their sympathy.
She hopes to be able to live in peace with her children.
5. Elisabeth said she hoped for a quick "recovery of my daughter Kerstin".
Protect the family with much heart and apprehension
6. Lisa asked for "love, happiness, health" and "that everything turns out well again".
She misses Kerstin, school, friends, nature, 1c class.
7. Felix says he dreams of being able to "run across a meadow" and play with other children.
Sledge riding, car riding, playing with a ball, to swim ... friendship ...
8. Monika talks about her sick sister Kerstin.
Wish: Kerstin get healthy, much love, hope everything is over soon. |
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danascully
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Thu May 15, 2008 1:15 pm |
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Thanks, BT, for the translations.
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LiveNLearn
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Thu May 15, 2008 1:43 pm |
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| Myra Manes wrote: | | It's heart warming to read that elisabeth and the kids are doing so well and taking things in stride......I hope kerstin makes a full recovery....... |
I would guess that a complete and full recovery at this time is/will be almost next to impossible; at least for the 3 children that were locked into submission in that cellar.
Medically, it appears that Kerstin will undoubtably pay the highest price given her current medical condition, not holding into the equation the mental side of this.
Perhaps the youngest of the children, Felix, will be able to make more a full recovery. We can hope and pray.
Stefan, will also have many nigtmares to contend with in the future once he is established back into mainstream living.
He will most likely always blame himself for not trying to over-power, or do something to save and rescue his family.
In one of the newspaper articles, it has stated that this entire process will take upwards of 6-8yrs for them to see any true healing, and moving on.
I think{?} that it also stated that they will remain in this facility, or one like it for the entire time.
It will be years before they are mainstreamed into modern society and to be able to cope with their surroundings, and, LIFE on the outside.
It is devastating.
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tulsad
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Mon May 19, 2008 3:05 pm |
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PerryPeabody posted an article about what the horrible, evil papparazi are doing (on the articles only thread.)
"The injured security guard, who suffered cuts and bruises, was called after a nurse spotted the photographer peering in through a window on Friday evening."
This is especially cruel - Elisabeth and two of her children are seeing daylight for the first time, 24 years in her case, in their lives for the children, and this pig takes advantage of one of their windows.
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Ber
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Mon May 19, 2008 5:25 pm |
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What would be nice is for art work that the captive children and possibly Elisabeth, that were created over the years, if any, or now new artwork to be displayed at an art gallery for a charity sale in order to raise money for the family.
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gwen
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Mon May 19, 2008 9:18 pm |
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| Ber wrote: | | What would be nice is for art work that the captive children and possibly Elisabeth, that were created over the years, if any, or now new artwork to be displayed at an art gallery for a charity sale in order to raise money for the family. |
Good idea, Ber.
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Black-Tulip
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Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:00 am |
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http://noe.orf.at/stories/295974/
Family remains in hospital till the end of year
Also for the other family members it gives a goal to when one will venture the final step outside, says the lawyer of the family Christoph Herbst:
"It's clear that we hope that the family - I believe that is also the desire of the family itself - will be able to return to normal life as soon as possible. And we assume that approximately till the end of the year the family wird still stay in Landesklinikum in Mauer, according to Christoph Herbst.
Coherency (cooperation, integration ?) in the family very well
For the time after that plans already exist, which one understandably doesn't want to make public, the lawyer proceeds. Anyhow, the coherency in the family is like before extraordinarily good.
Landesklinikum Amstetten- Mauer
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PerryPeabody
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Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:24 am |
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| Black-Tulip wrote: | http://noe.orf.at/stories/295974/
Family remains in hospital till the end of year
Also for the other family members it gives a goal to when one will venture the final step outside, says the lawyer of the family Christoph Herbst:
"It's clear that we hope that the family - I believe that is also the desire of the family itself - will be able to return to normal life as soon as possible. And we assume that approximately till the end of the year the family wird still stay in Landesklinikum in Mauer, according to Christoph Herbst.
Coherency (cooperation, integration ?) in the family very well
For the time after that plans already exist, which one understandably doesn't want to make public, the lawyer proceeds. Anyhow, the coherency in the family is like before extraordinarily good.
Landesklinikum Amstetten- Mauer |
Thanks very much, B-T.
Does the sentence I've quoted below say something like: "Given Elisabeth's testimony it is still undecided whether the children will have to testify"?
| Quote: | e.ORF.at; 17.7.08
Im Inzestfall von Amstetten ist nach der gerichtlichen Einvernahme der Tochter des Hauptverdächtigen noch offen, ob auch die Kinder aussagen werden. |
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Black-Tulip
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Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:43 am |
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Thanks very much, B-T.
Does the sentence I've quoted below say something like: "Given Elisabeth's testimony it is still undecided whether the children will have to testify"?
| Quote: | e.ORF.at; 17.7.08
Im Inzestfall von Amstetten ist nach der gerichtlichen Einvernahme der Tochter des Hauptverdächtigen noch offen, ob auch die Kinder aussagen werden. |
Yes. Unknown if they also will testify. Not have to testify.
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PerryPeabody
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Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:05 am |
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| Black-Tulip wrote: | Thanks very much, B-T.
Does the sentence I've quoted below say something like: "Given Elisabeth's testimony it is still undecided whether the children will have to testify"?
| Quote: | e.ORF.at; 17.7.08
Im Inzestfall von Amstetten ist nach der gerichtlichen Einvernahme der Tochter des Hauptverdächtigen noch offen, ob auch die Kinder aussagen werden. |
Yes. Unknown if they also will testify. Not have to testify. |
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Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:15 am |
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| LiveNLearn wrote: | | Myra Manes wrote: | | It's heart warming to read that elisabeth and the kids are doing so well and taking things in stride......I hope kerstin makes a full recovery....... |
I would guess that a complete and full recovery at this time is/will be almost next to impossible; at least for the 3 children that were locked into submission in that cellar.
Medically, it appears that Kerstin will undoubtably pay the highest price given her current medical condition, not holding into the equation the mental side of this.
Perhaps the youngest of the children, Felix, will be able to make more a full recovery. We can hope and pray.
Stefan, will also have many nigtmares to contend with in the future once he is established back into mainstream living.
He will most likely always blame himself for not trying to over-power, or do something to save and rescue his family.
In one of the newspaper articles, it has stated that this entire process will take upwards of 6-8yrs for them to see any true healing, and moving on.
I think{?} that it also stated that they will remain in this facility, or one like it for the entire time.
It will be years before they are mainstreamed into modern society and to be able to cope with their surroundings, and, LIFE on the outside.
It is devastating. |
agreed.....however you have to remember that they did not know another life exists outside the cave.
it is the converting that will take time, and for them to grasp the concept of what they lived was not the norm.
it is elizabeth who will have the hardest time, because she knew a different life before her capture.
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