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yankee-in-france
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:58 am |
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Anxious in America
Tom Friedman's opinion that what America needs NOW is nationbuilding in America. ITA with him.
If you're interested, here is his article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/29/opinion/29friedman.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin
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| pax
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:06 am |
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Thanks yif. I agree as well. The last time the S & P 500 declined over a ten year period was in the 1930's. We're headed to that now. The world is changing. We must change. This is from Friedman's article:
“America and its political leaders, after two decades of failing to come together to solve big problems, seem to have lost faith in their ability to do so,” Wall Street Journal columnist Gerald Seib noted last week. “A political system that expects failure doesn’t try very hard to produce anything else.”
We used to try harder and do better. After Sputnik, we came together as a nation and responded with a technology, infrastructure and education surge, notes Robert Hormats, vice chairman of Goldman Sachs International. After the 1973 oil crisis, we came together and made dramatic improvements in energy efficiency. After Social Security became imperiled in the early 1980s, we came together and fixed it for that moment. “But today,” added Hormats, “the political system seems incapable of producing a critical mass to support any kind of serious long-term reform.”
If the old saying — that “as General Motors goes, so goes America” — is true, then folks, we’re in a lot of trouble. General Motors’s stock-market value now stands at just $6.47 billion, compared with Toyota’s $162.6 billion. On top of it, G.M. shares sank to a 34-year low last week.
That’s us. We’re at a 34-year low. And digging out of this hole is what the next election has to be about and is going to be about — even if it is interrupted by a terrorist attack or an outbreak of war or peace in Iraq. We need nation-building at home, and we cannot wait another year to get started. Vote for the candidate who you think will do that best. Nothing else matters.
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| olympic
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Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:09 am |
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has anyone read this book, i never seen it before.....something about it was on television just caught the tail end.
http://www.blackwaterbook.com/praise.php
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| dugo
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Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:48 am |
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| pax wrote: | | Thanks yif. I agree as well. The last time the S & P 500 declined over a ten year period was in the 1930's. We're headed to that now. The world is changing. We must change. This is from Friedman's article: |
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That’s us. We’re at a 34-year low. And digging out of this hole is what the next election has to be about and is going to be about — even if it is interrupted by a terrorist attack or an outbreak of war or peace in Iraq. We need nation-building at home, and we cannot wait another year to get started. Vote for the candidate who you think will do that best. Nothing else matters.
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Well, there was plenty chance to dig out of a hole after the cold war was over.. In stead of sacking all the people that had a job because of the cold war they got a new one by allowing them to run the liberation of Kuwait into a mess that will take a century to get out of..
What the hell did you guys need Rumsfeld for after the wall went down? Geez!
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| yankee-in-france
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Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:16 am |
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I wish that I had an answer to your question. 
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YIF
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| pax
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Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:09 pm |
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| dugo wrote: |
Well, there was plenty chance to dig out of a hole after the cold war was over.. In stead of sacking all the people that had a job because of the cold war they got a new one by allowing them to run the liberation of Kuwait into a mess that will take a century to get out of..
What the hell did you guys need Rumsfeld for after the wall went down? Geez! |
Someone who'd say Iraqis would greet their liberators with flowers.
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| dithers
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Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:33 pm |
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I was coming here to ask dugo why he hates America so much. Guess now I'll include you in that question, Pax.
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Pretty in Blonde
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| pax
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Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:46 pm |
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| dithers wrote: | | I was coming here to ask dugo why he hates America so much. Guess now I'll include you in that question, Pax. |
I love America.
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| dithers
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Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:05 pm |
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I'm very happy to see you say that. Ditto.
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| yankee-in-france
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Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:27 am |
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It isn't about loving America or hating America, it is about certain policies and decisions of our government which tend to be more objectively viewed from abroad than from within.
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| yankee-in-france
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Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:39 am |
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Yes, I love America too.
Happy 4th of July to all.
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