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Maddie News August 6
British police fear Maddie was 'stolen to order' by Belgian paedophile ring Daily Mail
By VANESSA ALLEN and EMILY ANDREWS
Last updated at 11:13 PM on 06th August 2008
British police fear Madeleine McCann was snatched by a Belgian paedophile ring. She was stolen to order after a 'spotter' saw her on holiday in Portugal and sent her photograph to the gang's leaders.
The revelation came as a second woman claimed to have seen the missing girl in neighbouring Holland.
The possible link to Belgium – the scene of several notorious child sex cases – was mentioned in a confidential email sent by the Metropolitan Police intelligence unit.
The message, passed to Portuguese police and contained in their newly-released files, said: 'Intelligence suggests that a paedophile ring in Belgium made an order for a young girl three days before Madeleine McCann was taken.
'Somebody connected to this group saw Madeleine and took a photograph of her. The purchaser agreed that the girl was suitable and Madeleine was taken.'
The dramatic development, and the horrific picture it draws, will bring fresh agony to Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry McCann.
It would fit with two claimed sightings of their daughter across the border in the Netherlands, where Belgian paedophiles could hide their victims.
Earlier this week it was revealed that Amsterdam shop worker Anna Stam told police within days of Madeleine's diappearance in May last year that she thought she had seen her.
The report was passed to Portgual, but never followed up. Yesterday Hannie Wiechmann, 71, said she saw a girl resembling Madeleine in the Dutch capital at around the same time.
She said the child's hair had been badly cut and partially dyed red. She was with a woman who was pacing up and down beside a canal.
Mrs Wiechmann said: 'Those eyes, her badly-cut fringe with this red painted lock of hair. I just knew it was her.'
She told the Dutch newspaper Metro that she spotted the child twice near the city's famous Rijksmuseum.
Mrs Wiechmann said the woman, who was aged 30 to 35, was speaking English to her.
She added: 'You could see by the way she handled the kid she wasn't used to children.'
She was so convinced the girl was Madeleine that she called police from her mobile phone, then followed the pair as they walked towards the Rijksmuseum.
But when police arrived and spoke briefly to the brown haired woman, they accepted her account that she was a tourist who was baby-sitting the child.
Mrs Wiechmann said they dismissed her suspicions without even taking her details or talking to the girl. But she was so convinced the girl was Madeleine that she called British police, who took details but did not contact her again
Mrs Wiechmann said that a week later she saw the pair again in a park, and the little girl came over to pat her dog.
She said: 'She came right to me to pat the dog. Then I let her go. Stupid, but…. I let her walk away.
'It would have been better if I had taken her home and reported it to all the international criminal investigators. Such a beautiful girl.'
The McCanns' private detectives have considered the theory that Madeleine was given to a 'carer' who would have disguised her appearance and kept her in a safe house.
Mrs Wiechmann's account came just a day after the Portuguese police files revealed Miss Stam's description of a young girl with an adult couple and two other children.
Miss Stam, 41, said the girl called herself Maddie and said of the woman with her: 'She took me from my Mummy….They took me from my holiday.'
A Dutch police report was sent to Portuguese police but it is not clear what action, if any, they took.
Miss Stam said: 'I think it's stupid because maybe they could have done something more at that time and maybe now it's too late to find any clue. So I think it's very neglectful by the police.'
Family spokesman Clarence Mitchell said the McCann's private detectives would interview both women 'as a priority'.
Dutch and Portuguese police refused to comment.
The huge case files also revealed that Portuguese police asked the FBI to compare a DNA sample from Madeleine with the body of a child washed ashore in Galveston, Texas, last November. But it was not a match.
In the UK, a former detective accused the Portuguese of 'giving up'.
Child protection expert Mark Williams-Thomas said: 'The file should have been made available to another law enforcement agency from another country before it was made public.
'There is information there which should not have been put in the public domain and should have been followed up. It is a huge blunder to make it public.
'They have given up. The police are absolving themselves of responsibility.'
THE SUSPECT WHO ASKED TOO MANY QUESTIONS
Police suspected Robert Murat because of his 'constant questions' about MadeleineMcCann's disappearance, according to the case files.
On May 11 – three days before the British expat was named as the first formal suspect – an officer said he had noticed his questions and suggestions and added: 'He aroused my suspicions.'
Mr Murat, now 34, was formally cleared as an arguido, official suspect, last month, when Portugal's attorney-general said there was no evidence he had committed any crime.
He had volunteered his services as a translator as police were trying to interview British tourists in Praia da Luz, but officer Pedro Varanda said he had showed an 'unusual curiosity' in the case.
His comments, recorded in the police files, came just five days after a British journalist told Leicestershire Police she had also noticed Mr Murat showing an intense interest in developments.
Mr Varanda said: 'We noticed that he questioned me persistently, over and over, as to the ID of the potential suspects and the strategy of the investigation in the next few days.
'Because he was so insistent and because of his attitude, he aroused my suspicions. I always told him to pay attention to the job he was supposed to be doing – because at that time the investigation was under the secrecy of justice rule.
'He also had an enormous knowledge of the dynamics of the Ocean Club, and the routines the McCann family and their friends had taken up.'
Mr Murat, a property consultant, was taken for questioning on May 13 and named an arguido the next day.
Police searched the villa he shares with his mother, some 200 yards from the McCann's holiday apartment, but found nothing.
Madeleine McCann 'was snatched by paedophile ring to order', 06 August 2008
Madeleine McCann 'was snatched by paedophile ring to order' Telegraph
British police were told that Madeleine McCann was snatched by an international paedophile ring which photographed her three days before she vanished, police files have disclosed.
By Caroline Gammell in Portimao
Last Updated: 9:26PM BST 06 Aug 2008
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According to an email sent by the Metropolitan Police a child abduction ring based in Belgium placed an order for a "young girl".
Three-year-old Madeleine was spotted while on holiday in Portugal by someone connected to the gang who took a picture of her.
The photograph was sent back to Belgium where the paedophile ring agreed that she should be abducted, the email states.
Three days later on May 3rd last year Madeleine was taken from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in the Algarve while her parents ate at a nearby restaurant.
The astonishing revelation supports Kate and Gerry McCann's long-held theory that their eldest child may have been taken by a child smuggling ring.
The email, sent by an intelligence officer on the Met's vice squad on March 4 this year to counterparts in the Portuguese and Leicestershire police, marks a significant development in the case of the missing girl.
Just last month Portuguese police closed their investigation and cleared the McCanns of any involvement in their daughter's disappearance.
The email was revealed for the first time in police files made public this week.
The Met Police were tipped by an anonymous source, the files showed.
Met officer John Shord wrote the email to Leicestershire Police on March 4 which was passed on to Operation Task – the British end of the investigation into Madeleine McCann.
It said: "Intelligence suggests that a paedophile ring in Belgium made an order for a young girl three days before Madeleine McCann was taken.
"Somebody connected to this group saw Maddie, took a photograph of her and sent it to Belgium. The purchaser agreed that the girl was suitable and Maddie was taken."
DC John Hughes, from Leicestershire Police, forwarded the email to the Policia Judiciaria (PJ) at Portimao in the Algarve on April 21, the files showed.
The next day the email was sent to Ricardo Paiva, one of the three Portuguese police officers leading the investigation.
On April 28, Portuguese police faxed the information to Interpol in Lisbon and asked them to investigate it as a matter of urgency.
Interpol replied on May 23, passing on all information gathered from its bureaus in London, Brussels, Germay and Finland.
On May 27, Interpol in Lisbon sent an urgent fax to Portuguese police asking for more information, but an undated return fax told them they had all the information that there was.
The email emerged in volume 14, appendix five, of the vast Portuguese police dossier into the closed investigation which was released to the public on Monday.
Paulo Rebelo, the head of the police investigation into Madeleine, ordered that the information be placed in the case file.
The inquiry was then shelved on July 21, less than two months after Interpol was told there was no further information about the paedophile ring.
Belgium has featured in the case already. There was an alleged sighting last August in Tongeren on the Dutch Belgian border but it was later ruled out.
The country was at the centre of one of the most notorious paedophile investigations of recent years which saw Marc Dutroux jailed for life in 2004 after being convicted of kidnapping, raping and murdering young girls.
He was found guilty of kidnapping and raping six girls, killing two of them and causing the deaths of two others. The case surrounding Dutroux, 47, an unemployed electrician and a convicted paedophile, shocked Europe in the mid-1990s.
Mr and Mrs McCann, from Rothley in Leicestershire, have spent the last 15 months trying to find their daughter who disappeared from her family's apartment in Praia da Luz last May.
For 10 months the couple had to battle to clear their own names of suspicion after they were named as suspects.
Only now, is a picture emerging of what may have happened.
It destroys the PJ's theory that the couple accidentally killed Madeleine and then tried to dispose of her body.
Madeleine McCann 'snatched by international paedophile ring', 06 August 2008
Madeleine McCann 'snatched by international paedophile ring' Telegraph
British police believe Madeleine McCann was snatched by an international paedophile ring after she was photographed three days before she vanished, files have disclosed.
By Caroline Gammell in Portimao and Nick Allen in Amsterdam
Last Updated: 8:46PM BST 06 Aug 2008
The concern was raised in an email sent by the Metropolitan Police's intelligence unit dealing with Clubs and Vice, CO14 on March 4 this year.
It said: "Intelligence suggests that a paedophile ring in Belgium made an order for a young girl three days before Madeleine McCann was taken.
"Somebody connected to this group saw Maddie, took a photograph of her and sent it to Belgium. The purchaser agreed that the girl was suitable and Maddie was taken."
The astonishing revelation supports Kate and Gerry McCann's theory that their eldest child may have been taken by a child smuggling ring.
Written by a police officer called John Shord, it was sent to DC John Hughes at Leicestershire Police and passed on to Portuguese detectives.
The development comes as a woman who believes she saw Madeleine in Amsterdam shortly after the little girl went missing has accused the police of neglect after they failed to follow up the lead.
Anna Stam, who said she spoke to a young girl who called herself "Maddie" and said she had been taken away from her mother, hit out at the Portuguese and British police.
Her criticism came as a second woman told how she was convinced that she had seen Madeleine at around the same time in the Dutch city.
Hannie Wiechmann, 71, said she saw the three-year-old on two separate occasions and that her hair appeared to have been badly cut and dyed.
"Those eyes, her unequally cut fringe, this red painted lock of hair – I just knew it was her," she said.
Mrs Wiechmann called the police who dismissed her first sighting without taking down any details, but when the pensioner saw her again a week later, she was sure that it was Madeleine.
"She came right to me to pat (my) dog, then I let her go," she told Dutch newspaper Metro. "Stupid, I let her walk away. Such a beautiful girl."
The couple's spokesman Clarence Mitchell said their private investigators would interview both women to try and find more clues.
Dutch police refused to comment.
The apparent sighting was made around the same time as Miss Stam who spoke of her frustration yesterday at the lack of action over what she saw.
She reported her sighting to the Dutch police last June who passed all the details on to detectives in Portugal.
But no further action was taken and the lead went cold. Miss Stam gave police enough detail to produce a sketch, but it is not known what happened to the drawing.
"I think it's stupid because maybe they could have done something more at that time and maybe now it's too late to find any clue," she said. "I think it's very neglectful by the police.
"Maybe not even the Dutch police but more the British or Portuguese police because at that time I remember the police told me they were suspecting the parents themselves."
"I wish I could have done something but I didn't know. I'm haunted by it. I feel very sorry for the McCanns."
Madeleine McCann's parents consider Crimewatch reconstruction, 06 August 2008
Madeleine McCann's parents consider Crimewatch reconstruction Telegraph
Kate and Gerry McCann are in talks with Crimewatch about staging a reconstruction of the night Madeleine disappeared after being given access to the police files.
By Caroline Gammell in Portimao
Last Updated: 8:44PM BST 06 Aug 2008
Portuguese police wanted to hold a re-run of events earlier this year, but the little girl's parents were reluctant to take part while they were still suspects in the case.
Now the official investigation has been shelved and their arguido status lifted, the McCanns are looking into the possibility of setting up their own reconstruction, filmed by the BBC.
The couple's spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "We have had low level contact with Crimewatch ever since they wanted to do something with us last year. We are talking to them again.
"Kate and Gerry may well take part - it is certainly something that they would consider. Given that we have a lot of new information, it may be something that we revisit, but nothing is confirmed."
The McCanns and the seven friends dining with them on the night three-year-old Madeleine vanished from the family's apartment would all need to fly to the Algarve to take part.
According to the public prosecutors in the case - Jose de Magalhaes and Joao Melchior Gomes – the failure to hold a re-enactment had worked against the parents.
"It could have removed any doubts about the parents' innocence," they said.
Clarence Mitchell: "Madeleine called herself 'Madeleine'", 06 August 2008
McCann's plea to police revealed BBC News
Page last updated at 19:55 GMT, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 20:55 UK
Kate McCann pleaded with Portuguese police to be kept informed about the hunt for her daughter, it has emerged.
A December 2007 letter from Mrs McCann, of Rothley, Leicestershire, to police said a lack of communication between officers and her family was "torture".
News of the letter comes as the family's investigators check reports that a girl calling herself "Maddy" was seen in the Netherlands in June 2007.
The information has been made public only with the release of police files.
Madeleine vanished, aged three, in May 2007 while on holiday in the Algarve.
Her mother's letter called for an end to "finger-pointing blame", and said her pain and anxiety were "indescribable".
Family spokesman Clarence Mitchell confirmed that Mrs McCann wrote to senior officer Paulo Rebelo but received no reply beyond a formal notification that her correspondence would be placed on file.
Mrs McCann wrote: "As her mother, the pain and anxiety I feel for her is indescribable and the feeling of helplessness overwhelming. The 'accusations' and media smearing, although upsetting, are very much secondary.
"I am appealing to you as a fellow human being to work with us (if possible include us) and to remember that we are Madeleine's parents and have needs...
"Lack of communication and a void of information, particularly as the parent of a missing child, is torture."
The McCanns, both 40, have accused detectives of withholding potentially crucial evidence from them after the release of the official documents.
According to one file, Anna Stam, 41, a shop assistant, said she spoke to a girl aged three or four in Amsterdam. She said she resembled Madeleine and said her name was "Maddy".
In reply to a question about her mother, the girl is said to have remarked: "They took me from my holiday."
A report was sent to Portugal on 18 June last year but it is not clear from the files what action was taken.
Mr Mitchell said it was "tragic" that this kind of evidence has only now been issued.
He said: "We need to know what happened with this. This is exactly the sort of primary information that we need to know if it was followed up properly by the police."
But he also told the BBC News channel: "Madeleine called herself 'Madeleine', and that was very much the name in the family as well, so that makes us wonder if this was indeed Madeleine."
The hair colour of the girl sighted in Amsterdam had been dark brown, different from Madeleine's blonde, Mr Mitchell added.
"That's not to say we are going to ignore any information based on one or two discrepancies - even one like that," he said.
"The lady concerned will be spoken to by the private investigators in due course and her information will be followed up.
"If it is Madeleine then of course that focuses everything. We are not saying it is. We need to know; we just don't know at this stage."
The release of thousands of Portuguese police documents also reveal that UK officers received intelligence suggesting Madeleine could have been snatched to order by a Belgian paedophile ring.
The intelligence suggested a "purchaser" in Belgium ordered the kidnap after being forwarded a photograph that had been taken of the girl.
But the files do not reveal the source of the intelligence.
The Portuguese police inquiry into the girl's disappearance was wound up last month.
The McCanns and a third British national, Robert Murat - who have always strongly denied having had any involvement in what happened to Madeleine - also had their status as formal suspects lifted.
Among the new files released was a prosecutor's report that said the investigation had uncovered "very little" conclusive about Madeleine's fate.
There were also CCTV images showing a small child said to resemble Madeleine at an Algarve petrol station the day after she disappeared that the McCanns had not seen before.
Several other reported sightings across Europe have been examined by local authorities or the investigators working for the McCanns in the past but all came to nothing.
Aerial photo shows sniffer dog trail following Maddie's scent took them to nearby car park Daily Mail
By DAILY MAIL REPORTERLast updated at 4:41 PM on 06th August 2008
This aerial photograph shows the trail that police sniffer dogs took as they tracked Madeleine McCann's scent.
Two trained dogs were taken to the family's holiday apartment and followed a trail some 100 yards to a nearby car park - where British holiday-maker Derek Flack told police he had seen a man staring at the McCanns' flat.
But they were only used at 11.45pm on May 8 - five days after Madeleine's disappearance - despite their handlers advising that the search should be done within 48 hours.
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Trail: An aerial shot of Praia da Luz, showing where the Portuguese sniffer dogs lost the scent of Madeleine last year
The latest police blunder was revealed in the huge case files, which included the aerial photograph, showing the two dogs' tracks in red and yellow.
Police believed the trail followed by both dogs could have shown that Madeleine had walked out of the apartment herself, trying to find her parents.
They discounted it as evidence towards a possible abduction as it would have involved Madeleine's captor taking her in a virtual circle around the apartment block and past the complex's swimming pool, while her parents ate dinner in the tapas bar on the other side of the pool.
The dogs lost the trail in the car park, and their Portuguese handlers said they could have been distracted by the odour of nearby bin bags left out in the heat.
Kate McCann had given the dog team a towel she had used to dry Madeleine after a bath, and they took her scent from that.
In August last year British specialist sniffer dogs were taken inside the McCanns' holiday apartment, where they were said to have detected minute traces of blood and the 'scent of death'.
Their behaviour was pivotal in the Portuguese police's decision to name the couple as official suspects in their daughter's disappearance.
But it was revealed this week that detectives acted despite a warning from British scientists that there was no conclusive DNA evidence to support their wild theory that Madeleine died in the family's apartment.
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Aerial photo shows sniffer dog trail following Madeleine's scent took them to nearby car park Daily Mail
By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
Last updated at 11:22 PM on 06th August 2008
The Portuguese police files give pinpoint details of the route which police sniffer dogs followed as they tracked Madeleine's scent.
Two trained dogs were taken to the family's holiday apartment and followed a trail some 100 yards to a nearby car park – where British tourist Derek Flack told police he had seen a man staring at the McCanns' flat.
But the dogs were not used until May 8 – five days after Madeleine's disappearance – despite their handlers advising that the search should be done within 48 hours.
Kate McCann gave the team a towel she had used to dry Madeleine after a bath.
But Portuguese police discounted the dogs' trail as evidence for an abduction as it would have involved Madeleine's captor taking her in a virtual circle around the apartment block and past the holiday complex swimming pool, while her parents ate dinner on the other side of the pool.
They believed the trail could have been made if Madeleine had walked out herself, trying to find her parents.
The dogs lost the trail in the car park, and their Portuguese handlers said they could have been distracted by the smell of nearby bin bags left out in the heat.
In August last year British specialist sniffer dogs were taken inside the McCanns' apartment, where they were said to have detected minute traces of blood and the 'scent of death'.
The dogs' behaviour was pivotal in the Portuguese police decision to name the couple as official suspects in their daughter's disappearance.
The latest police blunder was revealed in the huge case files, which included the aerial photograph, showing the two dogs' tracks in red and yellow.
Their behaviour was pivotal in the Portuguese police's decision to name the couple as official suspects in their daughter's disappearance.
But it was revealed this week that detectives acted despite a warning from British scientists that there was no conclusive DNA evidence to support their wild theory that Madeleine died in the family's apartment.
What did Derek Flack see?:
REDBRIDGE: Ilford man provided clue in Maddy case Epping Forest Guardian
12:19pm Wednesday 6th August 2008
A REDBRIDGE man provided important evidence for the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, files reveal.
The British toddler has been missing for over a year since disappearing from her parent’s holiday apartment in Portugal, and now the case has been shelved, previously confidential documents can finally be examined.
Among the details is the testamony of 60-year-old Derek Flack, of Ilford, who was staying in his holiday home in Praia da Luz when he saw a suspicious man gazing towards the Ocean Club complex, where Madeleine and her family were staying.
A Portuguese police report in the file states: "He then realised the man was staring fixedly at the area in question, very focused on what he was doing, and did not notice Flack's presence."
The man Mr Flack saw was white, aged from 25 to 35 with tanned skin and appeared to be looking at a van parked near a footpath giving access to the back of apartment 5A, where the McCanns were staying.
The report continues: "He concluded that the man was monitoring the movements near that path and into the apartment. The man looked suspicious, he was watching the apartment.
"Flack said he does not remember seeing the man there before, or anywhere else in Luz, or since Madeleine's disappearance."
Maddie shopkeeper accuses police of neglect, 06 August 2008
Maddie shopkeeper accuses police of neglect Metro
Wednesday, August 6, 2008
The Dutch shop worker who said she may have seen Madeleine McCann today accused detectives of neglect.
Anna Stam, 41, said "it was stupid" nothing was done by Portuguese police after she reported speaking to a little girl named Maddy in Amsterdam who replied to a question about her mother: "They took me from my holiday."
It was probably now "too late" to find any clues, she told ITV News.
Attacking British and Portuguese officers, she said: "I think it's stupid because maybe they could have done something more at that time and maybe now it's too late to find any clue. So I think it's very neglectful by the police.
"And maybe not even the Dutch police but more the British or Portuguese police because at that time I remember the police told me they were suspecting the parents themselves.
"I thought it was crazy to think that but that's maybe why they didn't do something with it."
The possible sighting of the missing girl was reported to Portuguese officers in June last year - but it has only now been made public with the release of previously secret police files.
Remembering the incident as she returned to work at Dam's party shop, in the Middenweg district of Amsterdam, this morning, she told how the little girl had made it clear her name was Maddy.
She added: "It seemed that she was together with the family, maybe it was not her mother but it could be her aunt or the neighbour and she was not crying or protesting to go with them so I thought it was normal, that she belonged to the family.
"(The girl) said she was looking for her mummy... and not for her mother...she called herself Maddy.
"At first I thought it was Maggie, that's why I remember, but she made clear it wasn't Maggie, it was Maddy."
The girl entered Ms Stam's party shop in early May last year with a man and a woman and two other children, according to her statement to Dutch police.
The man - who "did not look like a nice person" - appeared to be speaking Portuguese but the woman spoke in English and told Ms Stam they had a small circus in France.
Ms Stam was at the back of the shop when the young girl approached her and asked in unaccented English: "Do you know where my mummy is?"
On being told that her mother was a little further back in the store, the child replied, "She is not my mummy," and added: "She is a stranger, she took me from my mummy."
After it emerged this morning that private detectives for Kate and Gerry McCann were now investigating her claim, Ms Stam told friends she was feeling "totally overwhelmed".
Wendy Gebharp, 31, who has worked alongside Ms Stam for the past three years, said: "It is totally overwhelming for her. She told me she dearly hopes that her information helps but I do not think it is fair that Portuguese police have revealed her details."
McCann family spokesman Clarence Mitchell said it was "tragic" that this kind of information should only be released now.
"It is harrowing to hear a child saying that. If it was Madeleine, it was a disgrace that it was not passed on," he said.
Kate's Letter To Portugal Cop
12:37pm UK, Wednesday August 06, 2008
Kate McCann sent an emotional letter to the head of the Portuguese police begging him to keep her informed during the investigation into her daughter Madeleine's disappearance.
In it she pleaded for an end to "finger-pointing blame" and a return to finding "a beautiful, innocent little girl who is still missing", case files revealed today.
Writing three months after being named an official suspect in the investigation, Mrs McCann wrote of her "indescribable" pain and anxiety since Madeleine went missing.
The plea is included in the huge dossier of evidence assembled in the case which was publicly released this week.
Family spokesman Clarence Mitchell confirmed that Mrs McCann wrote a letter to Paulo Rebelo shortly after he took over the inquiry in October last year.
The Portuguese police failed to respond to her requests, issuing only a formal note indicating it would be included in the police file.
In the letter, Mrs McCann, 40, from Rothley, Leicestershire, described Madeleine as "the most precious thing in our life", adding that the period since she went missing had been "the most difficult, sad and unbearable time that any parent could possibly imagine".
The "lack of communication" from Mr Rebelo's predecessors had been "torture".
It is understood that Mr Rebelo, who was appointed head of the investigation on October 9, has never met or spoken to either Kate or Gerry McCann.
The couple's lawyers are studying the case files for fresh leads that hired private detectives can follow up in their own search for their daughter.
[b] McCanns rowed before snatch The Sun
By STAFF REPORTER
Published: Today, 06 August 2008
KATE and Gerry McCann rowed and slept in separate bedrooms the night before daughter Maddie was snatched from their holiday apartment in Portugal.
Evidence in the police files released earlier this week says that in an interview on September 6, Kate, 40, told detectives she was angry with her Gerry because he had ignored her during dinner at the Tapas Bar restaurant.
The astonishing claim came as a letter to Portuguese cop Paulo Rebelo was also released in the files, in which Kate begs for the police to join forces with her and Gerry in the hunt for Maddie.
On the night before Maddie disappeared Kate slipped off and slept in the children's room with Maddie, then three, and twins Sean and Amelie, then two.
The witness statement reads: "When asked if she ever slept in Madeleine's room, she said that happened on Wednesday because she had fallen out with Gerry after he ignored her after dinner when they went to the tapas bar.
"This only happened on that day. She decided to retaliate by sleeping in another room in the bed near the window.
"She does not know whether Gerry was aware that she slept in the other room as he was already asleep when she left.
"If in fact her husband was aware of this situation, he did not comment on it."
Mrs McCann also told police that Madeleine slept in the room she and her husband occupied on May 1 last year.
Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns' spokesman, refused to comment on the contents of the witness statement.
Letter
During the interview Kate also vigorously denied she had left Madeleine crying alone for an hour the night before she vanished.
The GP insisted it was Amelie who had been crying, and only for a short time.
The couple brought Amelie into bed with them after being alerted to her tears by Maddie.
In the newly released letter written by a frantic Kate, she begs Portuguese police to join forces with them in the hunt for missing Maddie and end the "war" raging between them.
Kate, 40, wrote to chief investigator Paulo Rebelo shortly after he replaced disgraced former head Goncalo Amaral telling him "Madeleine is the most beautiful thing in our lives."
The letter is dated December 4 last year and is included in the 17 volumes of case files made public earlier this week.
She described the "difficult, sad and unbearable times" she and husband Gerry were going through since being made formal suspects.
She told him she was suffering a pain that was "impossible to describe" and felt "impotent" in the face of accusations and "libels" in the press.
Kate pleaded to be told of the investigation's progress, while recognising the restrictions imposed on Mr Rebelo by Portugal’s strict secrecy laws.
She was desperate to end the "war" between the Portuguese Judicial Police on one side, and the McCanns and the British police on the other.
The important thing was to be reunited in the hunt for Madeleine's abductor, she said.
But no response from Mr Rebelo is recorded, reports claim.
Mr Rebelo replaced Goncalo Amaral, 48, as the chief investigator in October last year.
Amaral was thrown off the case for criticising British police, claiming they were working too closely with Gerry and Kate McCann.
In another revelation from the case files, prosecutors said the McCanns had lost the chance to prove their innocence when they and their holiday friends refused to take part in a reconstruction of the night of May 3 last year.
They said the investigation "was undermined" by the failure to carry out a reconstruction "which could have removed any doubts about the parents' innocence," according to a document revealed in newspaper Jornal de Noticias.
Paulo Rebelo wanted to carry out the reconstruction in March.
But the McCanns and their holiday friends, known as the Tapas Nine, gave "conditions" on which they would take part.
Meanwhile the McCanns' lawyers are considering asking for the case to be re-opened after gaining access to the case files last week.
Rogerio Alves said they must apply for the case to be re-opened by September 20.
Madeleine disappeared from the family's rented holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on May 3 last year.
Her parents were named suspects last September.
Last month the country's attorney general removed their "arguido" status - along with Robert Murat - and said there was no evidence they had committed any crime.
McCanns rowed and slept in separate rooms the night before Madeleine vanished Daily Mail
By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
Last updated at 2:03 PM on 06th August 2008
Kate McCann slept in her children's bedroom the night before Madeleine disappeared after rowing with her husband, the police files reveal.
The dossier of evidence includes Mrs McCann's witness statement from September 6 last year - the day before she was made an 'arguido', or formal suspect, in the case.
Detectives asked Madeleine's mother whether she ever slept in her daughter's room in the family's apartment in the Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz, southern Portugal.
She confirmed that this happened part way through their holiday, on the night of May 2 last year, after she argued with her husband Gerry because he ignored her.
The next night Madeleine vanished as her parents ate with friends at a nearby restaurant.
The witness statement reads: 'When asked if she ever slept in Madeleine's room, she said that happened on Wednesday because she had fallen out with Gerry after he ignored her after dinner when they went to the tapas bar.
'This only happened on that day. She decided to retaliate by sleeping in another room in the bed near the window.
'She does not know whether Gerry was aware that she slept in the other room as he was already asleep when she left.
'If in fact her husband was aware of this situation, he did not comment on it.'
Mrs McCann also told police that Madeleine slept in the room she and her husband occupied on May 1 last year.
Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns' spokesman, refused to comment on the contents of the witness statement.
The police files also reveal the couple did not sit next to each other at dinner on the night Madeleine vanished.
Mrs McCann drew a plan showing where the McCanns and their friends were sitting at the tapas restaurant at the Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz on May 3 last year.
The diagram reveals that Fiona Payne sat between the couple.
The friends on holiday with the McCanns when Madeleine went missing - who have become known as the 'Tapas Seven' - were crucial to the investigation.
They were moving around the Ocean Club complex throughout the evening checking on their children.
One of the seven, Jane Tanner, believes she saw Madeleine being abducted but did not realise it at the time.
The other people dining with the McCanns that night were Rachael and Matthew Oldfield, Ms Tanner's partner Russell O'Brien and Mrs Payne's husband David and her mother Dianne Webster.
Another image from the files shows an aerial shot of the trail followed by sniffer dogs searching for Madeleine and where it ran cold.
Mr and Mrs McCann alway strenuously denied any involvement in her disappearance. Portuguese prosecutors shelved the case and formally cleared them on July 21.
Media descends on Amsterdam as new Madeleine hunt begins 24dash.com
Published by Jon Land for 24dash.com
Wednesday 6th August 2008 - 12:31pm
The Dutch shop worker who said she may have seen Madeleine McCann just days after the hunt began today told friends she "dearly hoped" her information would help.
Anna Stam returned to work at the Dam's party shop, in the Middenweg district of Amsterdam, this morning after details of her sighting had been made public by police.
Ms Stam, 41, had told Dutch detectives she spoke to a little girl aged three or four in the city who said her name was "Maddy" and replied to a question about her mother: "They took me from my holiday."
But after it emerged that private detectives for Kate and Gerry McCann were now investigating her claim, Ms Stam told friends she was feeling "totally overwhelmed".
Wendy Gebharp, 31, who has worked alongside Ms Stam for the past three years, said more than 20 journalists had gathered outside the shop.
She said: "It is totally overwhelming for her. She told me she dearly hopes that her information helps but I do not think it is fair that Portuguese police have revealed her details.
"She doesn't want to talk to anyone at the moment. She has come here to do her day's work but more than 30 journalists have come in to try to talk with her.
"There are about 20 outside right now. She is suddenly Holland's most in-demand person. I do not think it helps."
The possible sighting of the missing girl was reported to Portuguese officers in June last year - but it has only now been made public with the release of previously secret police files.
The girl entered Ms Stam's party shop in early May last year with a man and a woman and two other children, according to her statement to Dutch police.
The man - who "did not look like a nice person" - appeared to be speaking Portuguese but the woman spoke in English and told Ms Stam they had a small circus in France.
Ms Stam was at the back of the shop when the young girl approached her and asked in unaccented English: "Do you know where my mummy is?"
On being told that her mother was a little further back in the store, the child replied, "She is not my mummy," and added: "She is a stranger, she took me from my mummy."
The Dutchwoman said she thought the girl looked "very much like" Madeleine apart from the colour of her hair.
McCann family spokesman Clarence Mitchell said it was "tragic" that this kind of information should only be released now.
"It is harrowing to hear a child saying that. If it was Madeleine, it was a disgrace that it was not passed on," he said.
"We need to know what happened with this. This is exactly the sort of primary information that we need to know if it was followed up properly by the police.
"If that hasn't been done, that is exactly the kind of information that the private investigators are going to follow up."
Public Ministry says that couple lost an occasion to prove their innocence Jornal de Notícias
06 August 2008
Thanks to 'astro' for translation
The reconstitruction was rendered unfeasible by obstacles that were created by the McCanns and their friends
Kate and Gerry lost the opportunity to prove that they had nothing to do with the disappearance of their daughter, Madeleine, when they and their friends rendered the reconstruction of the evening of May 3, 2007 unfeasible.
The conclusion is drawn by the Public Ministry (PM) that, in the dispatch that archives the process, admits that the "main damage" that results from this attitude was for "the McCann arguidos", who "lost the possibility of proving what they have been protesting since they were made arguidos: their innocence regarding the fateful event".
The PM admits that the investigation "was damaged" due to the fact that this diligence was not carried out and explains that, if the reconstruction had taken place, "it might eventually set aside, once and for all, any doubts that might subsist concerning the innocence of the missing child's parents".
Explaining that what was requested was the clarification of "failures to meet and lack of synchrony, when not divergences", which were detected during the analysis of the set of statements that had been given, which needed to be "tested and linked together on the location of the event", the two magistrates that are responsible for the dispatch then explain what they wanted to see clarified.
The first doubt concerns the physical proximity – real and effective – between Jane Tanner, Gerry and Jeremy Wilkins (the movie producer who played tennis with Gerry during the afternoon of Mat 3), at the moment when Jane passed them by, and which coincided with the sighting of the supposed suspect, carrying a child.
The PM admits it is "strange" that both did not see Tanner or the alleged abductor, despite the smallness of the space and the coincidence of the time at which allegedly the three crossed ways.
According to the PM, the reconstruction would also serve to understand in what state the window of the bedroom where Madeleine and her twin siblings slept was, given the fact that Kate guarantees that it was open. "It was necessary to clarify whether or not there was a draft, given the fact that movement of the curtains and pressure under the bedroom door are mentioned", the PM sustains.
Another doubt is related to the checking of the children, "given the fact that, if it can be believed that said control was as tight as the witnesses and the arguidos describe it", it would be, in the magistrates' opinion, "very difficult to reunite the conditions for the introduction of an abductor in the residence and the posterior exit of said abductor, with the child, through a window with little space".
It also remains unclear what really happened between 6.45 p.m. and 10 p.m., when Kate alerted to the disappearance.
The possibility of a reconstruction in May was raised in mid-March. The exchange of emails that was started on March 20 between the coordinator of the investigation, Paulo Rebelo, and the English policeman who made the liaison with the McCanns and their friends, the will to be present was noticeable, but also the imposition of conditions.
The seven friends wanted to know how it would be carried out and "conditioned" their presence to the PJ's answers. "We need a good reason to convince us", writes Rachael in one of the many emails that were transcribed into the more than 50 pages that are fully dedicated to the exchange of correspondence between the PJ and the witnesses.
Kate begged for news of hunt for Maddie but Portuguese police ignored her Daily Mail
By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
Last updated at 11:57 AM on 06th August 2008
Kate McCann wrote a desperate letter about the search for her daughter to the head of the Portuguese police investigation, it emerged today.
She wrote to Paulo Rebelo after he replaced disgraced Goncalo Amaral as chief investigator to beg him to give her and Gerry news about the hunt for Madeleine.
The letter was buried in the 20,000 pages of evidence made public this week. It was written 'to the heart' of Mr Rebelo and appealed to him as a father - but he never replied.
'Madeleine is the most beautiful thing in the our lives,' Mrs McCann wrote to Mr Rebelo, and said the pain she was suffering was 'impossible to describe'.
She added the time since she vanished had been 'the most difficult, sad and unbearable time that any parent could possibly imagine.
'I am appealing to you as a fellow human being to work with us (if possible include us) and to remember that we are Madeleine's parents and have needs,' she said.
'Lack of communication and a void of information, particularly as the parent of a missing child, is torture.'
She also said she felt 'impotent' in the face of the accusations and 'libels' in the press and pleaded to be kept informed of the investigation's progress.
Mrs McCann described her plea as 'rational and humane' and said the lack of information from the PJ - Portugal's CID - was 'torture' for any parent whose child had disappeared.
She also referred to a climate of 'war' between the police and the family and between the PJ and the British police.
It is thought that the McCanns repeatedly attempted to contact Mr Rebelo and even asked for face-to-face meetings but he never responded.
The McCanns' spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: 'Kate only ever received a formal response saying it would be passed on to the relevant person.'
Mr Rebelo took over as chief investigator last October when Mr Amaral was thrown off the case after criticising British police, claiming they were working too closely with the McCanns.
The evidence emerging since the official secrecy was lifted also shows Portuguese police withheld potentially crucial information after Madeleine's disappearance in May last year, including sightings and e-fits of possible suspects.
Lawyers for the McCanns, both 40, from Rothley, Leicestershire, were given access to the police files last week.
They are studying them for fresh leads that their private detectives can follow up in their own search.
Madeleine was nearly four when she vanished from her family's holiday apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz.
Representatives of the McCanns were today in talks with the BBC's Crimewatch programme in a bid to reinvigorate the search by filming a definitive reconstruction of events.
It would see BBC film crews travel to the Algarve to put together an international appeal drawing upon all the new details.
A family friend said: 'The call will be made today to see if we can make it happen
Madeleine McCann: Text of Kate McCann's letter to Paulo Rebelo Telegraph
This is the full text of Kate McCann's letter to Paulo Rebelo, the detective who took over the Madeleine McCann investigation in October last year:
Last Updated: 10:24AM BST 06 Aug 2008
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4th December 2007
Dear Mr Rebelo,
I hope you do not mind me writing to you and that you will read my letter. I am Madeleine McCann's mother.
I am not sure if you are a parent or not, but for my husband and myself, and the whole of our family, the last seven months has been the most difficult, sad and unbearable time that any parent could possibly imagine. Madeleine is the most precious thing in our life.
As her mother, the pain and anxiety I feel for her is indescribable and the feeling of helplessness overwhelming. The 'accusations' and media smearing, although upsetting, are very much secondary.
I am appealing to you as a fellow human being to work with us (if possible include us) and to remember that we are Madeleine's parents and have needs.
With regard to this latter point, I would be grateful if you were able to keep us informed to some degree as to how the investigation is going - what work is being done to help find our daughter etc.
I'm sure you will agree that this request is not unreasonable and is in fact humane.
I am fairly familiar now with the workings of 'judicial secrecy' but even if we could have a little bit of information in the broadest of terms it would help.
Lack of communication and a void of information, particularly as the parent of a missing child, is torture. We will continue to work with the PJ (and are keen to do so as soon as possible!) as we have done since that moment when I discovered that Madeleine had been taken.
This shouldn't be about 'finger-pointing blame', nor should it be about differences in culture. It should be about a beautiful, innocent little girl who is still missing. She is the victim in all of this.
It would be good for Madeleine if we could all work together to help find her and the person(s) who took her.
I would be very grateful if you could give some thought and consideration to my letter and look forward to your reply. I can only ask.
Yours sincerely,
Kate McCann.
'Sightings' in Madeleine files, 06 August 2008
'Sightings' in Madeleine files
Page last updated at 07:05 GMT, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 08:05 UK
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Investigators for the McCann family are probing claims that a girl calling herself Maddy was seen in Amsterdam in June 2007.
The move comes after new information on Madeleine's disappearance was made public by Portuguese police.
The files also contained CCTV images showing a small child said to resemble Madeleine at an Algarve petrol station the day after she went missing.
Sabet Choudhury reports. (00:01:07)
Kate wrote to Paulo, 06 August 2008
Kate wrote to Paulo 24horas
Inspector read the message from Maddie's parent and put it in the process
Text: Luis Maneta
06 August 2008 - 00h30
Thanks to 'carilina' for translation
When Gonçalo Amaral was dismissed from the investigation, Paulo Rebelo got a letter from Kate where she said she wanted to help and be kept informed about the research.
In that letter, Madeleine's mother, who had refused to answer the questions from the PJ, asked Paulo Rebelo to work in close cooperation with the McCanns. The letter aimed at "the heart" of the Head of the Judicial Police in Portimao, and addressed him in his role as a 'father'.
"Madeleine is something precious to us" writes Kate, mentioning the "hard, sad and difficult-to-bear times" after the disappearance of her daughter. Pain and anxiety that she finds "difficult to describe", and "impotence" because of the smearing from the press.
The Inspector did not reply
Kate assured the Inspector that she was familiar with the laws about the secrecy of justice, but that she wanted to be updated over the course of the investigation. In Kate's view, this was a reasonable and human request. In the letter Kate complained over the lack of communication with the PJ, a situation that she described as a 'torture' for the parents of any missing child, and added she was ready to work together with the police to help unravel the case. She mentioned the "war" atmosphere that she perceived between the police and her family and between the British and Portuguese Police, a situation that reached a climax when Gonçalo Amaral was dismissed, after saying the British Police "was only working on the lines that were convenient for the McCanns." For the mother of Madeleine it was not important to blame or to point to cultural differences, but to work together to find the alleged kidnapper. "I can only ask" ended Kate. 24horas could not find a reply from Paulo Rebelo in the dossier.
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Couple discussed the night before 24 horas
Kate was sleeping in the children's room
Text: Sonia Simoes
06 August 2008
Thanks to 'carilina' for translation
Declarations of September 6, 2007. The McCanns had a crisis on May 2nd, the night before Maddie's disappearance.
On the night of the 2nd May, Kate and Gerry had a row and she went to sleep with the children.
Kate was angry because Gerry had not paid attention to her during the dinner at the Tapas. Kate didn't remember if she had been to the apartment in the afternoon. When Kate went to the children's bedroom, Gerry had fallen asleep, so she couldn't tell if he noticed or not she had left the room. She slept with the children, on the bed located under the window. When Kate was confronted by the PJ with the fact that Maddie had cried on the nights of the 1st and 2nd of May, Kate said that the one that had been crying was Amelie, and for a short while, because Madeleine woke them up and they took Amelie to their bedroom. Kate described in all detail what she did in the afternoon of May 3rd, but she could not remember if she had been back in the apartment to change clothes or for any other reason. She remembered she went to play tennis and jogging and that before having dinner she read a story to the children.
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Nanny criticises the McCanns 24horas
Text: Carlos Tomas
06 August 2008
Thanks to 'astro' for translation
Katriona (sic) Baker, a British citizen who worked as a nanny at the tourist resort Ocean Club, in Praia da Luz, Algarve, and cared for missing Madeleine McCann for several days, does not spare criticism towards the child’s parents in the statement that she gave to the English authorities.
The nanny said that she only looked after the little girl during the day and remembers that Maddie cried a lot during a boat ride in Praia da Luz and screamed "I'm scared, I'm scared", failing to understand the reasons for the fact.
And she adds: she says that as soon as she heard about the disappearance of the child she ran through all of the places where Maddie usually went when she stayed at the crèche that exists at the Ocean Club; she guarantees that she saw neither Kate nor Gerry that evening, only seeing them again on the following Saturday (Maddie went missing on Thursday). One of the questions that the PJ asked from Kate, and to which there was no answer, was related to the reasons why she stayed at home while the searches were carried out.
MP admits that Maddie was killed Correio da Manhã
Archival of the process
06 August 2008 - 00h30
The Public Ministry (PM) admits that Madeleine was killed, discards the abduction theory, but does not believe that the McCann couple is involved in their daughter’s death. In the archiving dispatch, prosecutor Magalhães e Menezes says that Kate and Gerry were neglectful, but drops the crime of abandonment and closes the investigation with criticism over the Polícia Judiciária’s work.
Read all the details, exclusively, in Wednesday's edition of Correio da Manhã
Public Ministry admits homicide Correio da Manhã
Investigation - Dispatch defends the little girl's death but clears the McCann couple
Ana Luísa Nascimento
06 August 2008
Thanks to 'astro' for translation
Prosecutor says that the PJ obtained "little" in terms of conclusive results
The Public Ministry (PM) admits that Madeleine was killed, discards the abduction theory, but does not believe that the McCann couple is involved in their daughter's death. In the archiving dispatch, prosecutor Magalhães e Menezes says that Kate and Gerry were neglectful, but drops the crime of abandonment and closes the investigation with criticism over the Polícia Judiciária’s work.
"The investigators are aware of the fact that their work is not exempt of imperfections. They have worked with an enormous error margin and what they have achieved is vert little in terms of conclusive results", the magistrate writes, considering that the result of the investigation does not allow "for an average man to formulate any lucid, sensible, serious and honest conclusion" about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
José de Magalhães e Menezes assumes there is "a high degree of probability that a homicide took place" – he goes further than Gonçalo Amaral who always spoke of an accidental death – but he does not believe in the involvement of the McCann couple, considering that they have always manifested a normal behaviour. On the other hand, the prosecutor alleges that the McCanns had neither the time nor the means to conceal the body, remembering that on the evening of the 3rd of May 2007, the couple had been in Portugal for a few days only and their routine was limited to the limits of the 'Ocean Club': "They did not now the surrounding terrain and, apart from their English friends, they had no contacts in Portugal".
The prosecutor does however fail to point out any other justification for the disappearance of the little girl, after concluding that "no consistent indications were found indicating the execution of an abduction" – defended by the McCanns.
Despite "clearing" the couple, the Public Ministry writes a list of questions that remain unexplained, namely why the procedures of surveillance over the children, by the McCanns and their friends, were changed that night and how the twins failed to wake up in the middle of the confusion – after Kate gave the alert about the disappearance of her daughter. Concerning the constitution of the McCanns as arguidos, he says it is lawful and legitimate and concerning the case, he concludes that "Maddie's disappearance is a case from real life".
Over one hundred thousand euros in tests
The hundreds of forensic tests that were performed during the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine cost the state thousands of euros. The last volume of the process only, includes five invoices, concerning DNA tests and analyses of collected biological residues, all over 20 thousand euros. The total is of, at least, 145 thousand euros spent in forensics testing, which was carried out in Portugal and in England. At the British lab, the results of the tests were corrected and were not conclusive.
Reopening of the case under analysis
The McCanns' Portuguese lawyer, Rogério Alves, is analysing the process in order to decide whether to request the reopening of the case of the disappearance of Madeleine. "I'm analysing the process to see if it is worthwhile to give some impulse to the process, that is, to request the opening of the instruction or to advance to a hierarchical superior at the Public Ministry", Rogério Alves said in Portimão yesterday. The deadline for the instruction in this case ends on September 20.
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Direct speech – Gonçalo Amaral, former coordinator of the process
"With another Public Ministry there would have been another decision"
Correio da Manhã – The Public Ministry admits that Madeleine was killed but archives the case. Is this outcome a consequence of the pressures that you always complained about?
Gonçalo Amaral – I maintain that there are strong indicia. The interpretation and valuation in the light of the Law depends on the person that carries it out. With another Public Ministry I admit there could have been another decision.
Do you think that there was enough evidence to sustain an accusation?
When I left the investigation, there was enough indicia of concealment of a cadaver, simulation of a crime and eventually of abandonment. There are no doubts that there is concealment of a cadaver. The Public Ministry itself speaks of homicide and we didn’t go that far.
The Public Ministry says that the investigators are not exempt of imperfections…
Neither the investigators nor the prosecutors. We are verified by and have always worked under the directions of the Public Ministry. All that we did, we did with their knowledge and with their consent.
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Accidental death
The former coordinator of the investigation, Gonçalo Amaral, believes that the little girl died accidentally in the apartment, on the evening of May 3, and that her parents concealed the body.
Numbers from the process
443 searches were carried out in the investigation of the Madeleine case.
300 policemen from various security forces were mobilized during the first days.
130 elements from the Polícia Judiciária were detached to the investigation.
700 witnesses were heard, 112 of them were employees of the resort.
2000 diligences were counted by the Public Ministry.
3 persons were made arguidos: Robert Murat and Madeleine’s parents.
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The reader knows
by Manuel Catarino, chief editor
Since the process of the 'Maddie case' became public, on Monday, the most heard sentence on the Portuguese television channels is "The British press revealed that…" – followed by the news of one or another detail that was extracted from the process. They are not reporting any news, at least not for the readers of CM [Correio da Manhã] – who have known for a long time everything that is being revealed now. The truth is that there is nothing new to reveal about the interior of the voluminous process: everything – really everything – was in CM's pages over the last months, the fruit of a long and hard investigation work that the readers deserve.
[b]'My name's Maddie. They took me from my holiday': McCanns' despair at the sightings and CCTV footage police kept secret Daily
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