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Posts from RWV found in NH archives
Post on RWV: What do you thinK?
Wondering...has this post below been hashed out and considered not true:
Hello Friends, My niece, Natalie Holloway, has been missing in the country of Aruba since early Sunday morning. She was on a high school class senior trip with her friends. She was last seen on cameras in the hotel, around 1 am on Monday, May 27th, leaving the hotel with two men, who were not a part of her group. Please pray for God's hand to be upon this situation. Family members are there, seeking to find her. This is a very difficult time for all of our family. No one has seen or heard from her since this time on Monday. Thank you for praying for God to guide and protect during this time. Steve Parten Associate Pastor of Family Ministries Sheridan Hills Baptist Church Hollywood, Florida www.sheridanhills.org
Posted by: TuxedoJunction | Tuesday, March 14, 2006 at 12:42 PM
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ust a portion of Althor's post:
...This is why for the life of me I can not fathom, why Fox News, independent of whatever “ratings” the more banal may use as the exclusive “rationale” for their behavior, has taken the disappearance of a teenager; Natalee Holloway, whose demise was greatly propitiated , in part by the alcohol, drugs, and sexually charged ambience to which the lack of “parental discretion” of her mother, Beth, exposed her to in allowing her to go unsupervised to this “Spring Break” styled bacchanalia of excesses in the first place, and Natalee's own repeated blunders, and lack of judgement and common sense in the second place; which Fox has been one of the most notorious in blowing out of all proportion, making of this “family tragedy,” such as occur daily throughout the world, this whole “Media Circus” fiasco that has plagued our television screens nightly for endless months now, and “hogged” the attention of the whole Nation, lulling that very same “Conservative Base” which so relies on them, with this never-ending melodrama, at the expense of more vital issues and developments, ignored, or barely touched upon, in order to make air-time for the redundant, inflected “Southern Belle,” shrill wails of Natalee's media-maven, limelight-loving, narcissistic mom, Beth Twitty, once again been interviewed, with nothing but evasions on her part ( uhhh.... I mean Greta...it's not relevant, you know...), saying false allegations, misrepresentations, and defamations, affecting the innocent lives of an entire Island Nation, with nothing new to add to the case!!!
...God help us all! Only time will tell the unforseen consequences of America's sick obsession with Natalee Holloway!!!
Althor | Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 01:57 AM
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RWV 2/26: Natalee Holloway - Late Night Timeline
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2006/02/natalee_hollowa_5
Natalee Holloway - Late Night Timeline This information is taken from Scrux:
Both Satish Kalpoe and Deepak Kalpoe say they dropped Joran Van der Sloot with Natalee Holloway at a local beach (Marriott beach, also known as Palm Beach) at about 1:40 or 1:45 am and arrived at their home shortly thereafter. b. Satish's statement is that he went to sleep after arriving home. c. Deepak Kalpoe's statement says: 1. Arrived home around 1:50 am (five to ten minute drive from Marriott beach area). 2. Shortly after 2:00 am, after arriving home, he got on his computer . He offers log on records on the Internet to verify this action and time. (until almost 3:00 am). 3. 2:40 am: He says that Joran telephoned (cellphone) Deepak and asked for a ride. (cellphone triangulation shows he is at the beach near the Marriott). 4. 3:00-3:01 am: Joran called Deepak again, says he is walking home, that he left Natalee on beach. (cellphone grid triangulation shows Joran "in the neighborhood" between the Marriott beach and his home). 4a. An alternate version is that Joran was picked up by Satish and then driven home. 5. 3:00 am: Deepak says that he is conversing in a computer chat room with a friend in the US. 6. Sometime after 3:00 am: Phone records show another call after 3:00 o'clock (3:15?). Deepak states this call was Joran saying he has arrived home.(cellphone grid triangulation shows Joran is at his home.)
Quote from David Kock: "There are Internet records that show the time that Deepak got home. Of course, we do not have any for Satish because he went home, as you know, and went to his bedroom, went to sleep in his bedroom. There's no computer. He wasn't either on the phone anymore. But his brother, Deepak, was. And for that, we already have the records. And that is also what we indicated during the hearing of the so-called gardener, when he stated that at a certain time, he saw the three there, whereas we had concrete proof that that was just not possible... {snip} Other than what my client stated that he heard or was told by Joran, is that he went home walking. But you know, we don't have any way to verify it."
While Satish's whereabouts are not definitively accounted for, if the cell phone records mentioned above are accurate, Joran's are. But the entire picture does not add up. Joran said Satish picked him up at the beach, but there is an intermediate phone call placing him away from that location at 3 AM. Joran's recent statements do not address this discrepancy.
If he did indeed walk home, he would have had to have left the beach almost immediately to travel that distance between 2:40 and 3:15. But it makes no sense that he would have done that, as he claimed to have just called for a ride.
Something doesn't add up IF the above time line is accurate. I would think additional questioning would be prudent to clear this up. But I'd caution that without seeing any official records, it's possible such a discrepancy doesn't exist.
Apparently there are also reports that someone saw the Kalpoe car on the road heading towards Joran's neighborhood at 2 AM. I do not know the locations well enough to speculate precisely, but I wonder if it suggests one of the Kalpoes stayed home, signed onto the computer and the other went back out. And just because one was signed onto Deepak's Internet account, there's really no telling definitively who it was.
Also, as I understand it, Joran was a friend of Satish's, not Deepak. It makes little sense that he would call Deepak at 3 AM to tell him he arrived home. There may be facts and time issues unknown, but if not, something is clearly going on here. The calls and log on's could have been made intentionally done to try and construct an alibi of sorts, assuming the boys were thinking that far ahead.
Update: Be sure and click through the above Scrux link to read some of their speculation on these issues. Scroll down once there.
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RWV - 2/25/05 Powerful
Saturday, February 25, 2006
Unraveling The Mystery Of Natalee Holloway The disappearance of Natalee Holloway may not ever be solved. All we have to look to are assorted bits of information gathered from various, sometimes conflicting sources. The particular scenario I'm going to lay out here may not be any better than some others. But I am going to construct a narrative from information and suppositions which make sense to me based upon what I know and think.
I believe Natalee Holloway was pushing limits that night, as were many of the MB kids as they went to C and C that night to "really blow it out." It was the last night of a trip which involved heavy drinking, drug use by some, and also casual sex. Mountain Brook is a privileged community. Whether it is the best and the brightest is an arguable point. However, it certainly is the richest when it comes to Alabama. And a certain sense of entitlement, along with believing there's no need to tarnish the reputation of Natalee Holloway has led to MB being less than candid about certain aspects of the trip.
Many will say, Why bother? What does it have to do with Natalee's disappearance? But the truth does matter. It has gotten to the point where it is indecent for the MB community to allow a community member to make allegations of rape, drugging and kidnapping while protecting their own children by withholding the truth of the trip......
Read the rest on his blog: http://www.riehlworldview.com/
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RWV 22 feb
http://carnivorousconservative.typepad.com/carnivorous_conservative/2006/02/rethinking_the_.html#comments
Re-Thinking The Natalee Holloway Disappearance
excerpts:
"Many of the followers of the Natalee Holloway case seem to have had it ingrained into them via cable news that Joran Van Der Sloot is a murderer and a rapist. No other answer will do. However, there are some good reasons to reflect back on events and at least contemplate another possibility, if not two or three. But I'll only deal with one here. Is it possible one or both of the Kalpoes raped and murdered Natalee Holloway and had help to hide the crime?"
"Like it or not, Fox and Natalee's Mother gave everyone a villain before there was any actual proof of a crime. Even the Mountain Brook students who encountered Joran spoke well of him until the story began to be shaped in a narrative designed more to hold an audience, than to inform.
So, suppose the assertion that Satish Kalpoe did drive Joran home that night is true. I've heard there is reason to believe it from actual police reports, despite the denials of the Kalpoe attorney. The fact is, if he admitted it, it would put his clients in a real bind.
Consider this. If either of the Kalpoes drove Joran home, not only would they know he left Natalee alive, but he would be over an hour on foot away from her - and he of all of the three boys did not have a access to a vehicle. Could Satish have decided to take a quick drive back to the beach where Natalee was left after dropping Joran at home? I can't suggest he did, but I also certainly can't rule it out.
And remember, there are reports, one which I myself passed along, which was apparently confirmed, that the two Kalpoe brothers were cleaning out Deepak's vehicle shortly after Natalee's disappearance. Why would that be if they simply dropped Joran and Natalee off at the beach? Did something go on in that vehicle after Joran was dropped at home?
Also, enter Steve Croes who foolishly stepped in to try and give the boys an alibi. He was not a friend of Joran's. He was a friend of Deepaks, so far as I can tell."
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Love this exchange from RWV....
I STILL THINK PAUL VDS HID THE EVIDENCE. PROVE ME WRONG. HE HAS NO ALIBI.
Posted by: CC | Tuesday, February 21, 2006 at 02:12 PM
Neither do Jean Claude van Damme, Courtney Love, and 2 of the Bee Gees.
Posted by: ChinbeardXIV | Tuesday, February 21, 2006 at 02:17 PM
http://www.carnivorousconservative.typepad.com//carnivorous_conservative/2006/02/natalee_hollowa_1.html
Almost feel out of my chair laughing.
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For the Haters-RWV
It's been apparent since the start of my coverage of the Natalee Holloway disappearance that there are more than a few haters following the coverage. Yes, they will tell you that they support a missing girl and her mother, that they only seek answers - but time and again their behaviors and judgments portray them as the pathetic haters that they are. That can't control themselves, really.
I am not talking about individuals who simply believe or suspect that the three current suspects are guilty. I've never pronounced them innocent or guilty. I am forced to make decisions of justice based upon facts and we simply don't have enough for us to make that judgment at this time. Hopefully that will change.
But the haters don't care about facts - they don't care about objectivity, or truth - they don't really even care about Natalee Holloway, though they will never admit that. They likely can't even admit that to themselves. They are driven far too much by hate to genuinely care abut anything in some greater, altruistic sense of the word.
the rest at http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/10/for_the
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