Of course, they are protestors of the policies of B Obama. The MSM has not taken them seriously but they should and maybe they are starting to. Sarah Palin was a young VP candidate but as far as the Rep party making her a candidate in the next election, my opinion is no.
What do I know? Not much but I doubt Sarah P would make it through 2 primaries.
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I would not vote for Palin either but never understood why she stirs the Dems up so much.
Palin was nominated as the Vice President by the Republican Party on the 2008 ticket...that's why she has been talked about since then.....people still talk about Dan Quayle - some jokes are timeless.
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That's all there is to a Tea Bagger? - they are all about what they are not? Sounds like a shaky platform.
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Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:15 pm
The tea party movement started out as a protest against the oppression of the people through the taxation of tea in 1773. It continues today as a movement opposing the expansion of big government which protesters are concerned is leading to economic and political oppression of the people – such as the proposed IRS tax mandate which penalizes people for not buying the health insurance lobbyist's services.
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Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:24 pm
apodixis wrote:
The tea party movement started out as a protest against the oppression of the people through the taxation of tea in 1773. It continues today as a movement opposing the expansion of big government which protesters are concerned is leading to economic and political oppression of the people – such as the proposed IRS tax mandate forcing people to buy the health insurance lobbyist's services.
That's the Republican's spiel - Are Tea Baggers simply fanatical unorganized Republicans? What differeniates the two besides one being an actual Political Party and one being a movement? Money??
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resignedPosted:
Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:30 pm
I think I see Sarah Palin's image in the tea:
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Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:34 pm
"The Tea Party movement is a United States conservative and libertarian protest movement that emerged in early 2009 partially in response to the federal government's stimulus package, officially known as the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.
The movement originated in anti-tax protests and arose in response to the increase in the national debt as a result of the stimulus package,[1][2] as well as the reaction to increases in home mortgage foreclosures despite TARP bailout money paid to the banks.[3][4] It grew dramatically after revelations about the bonuses paid to AIG executives in March 2009[5][6] and has been most visible through the Tea Party protests of 2009....
The name "Tea Party" is a reference to the Boston Tea Party, whose principal aim was to protest taxation without representation.[8] Tea Party protests have sought to evoke similar images, slogans, and themes.[9][10][11] In the wake of the Supreme Court decision Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, on February 5, 2010, the National Tea Party Convention announced they are forming a 501(c)4 corporation and related political action committee (PAC) to support candidates for office in the 2010 elections.[12][13] "
Tea party protests have been a regular anti-tax feature on April 15 income tax deadline day for many decades.
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resignedPosted:
Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:37 pm
Thank you, but what I can't find on Wikipedia is what this Tea Party actually hopes to achieve, how they hope to achieve it and who their leaders are to achieve it with...
Are they looking for another American Revolution? Is that why they want to hold on to those guns so tightly when they go to those town meetin's. This ain't 1773 ya know.
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Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:40 pm
The Tea Party Convention charged $549 per person - was that before or after taxes?
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Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:44 pm
I wonder how many people would have paid $549 to swing tea bags with Joe the Plumber?
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apodixisPosted:
Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:10 pm
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Are they looking for another American Revolution? Is that why they want to hold on to those guns so tightly when they go to those town meetin's. This ain't 1773 ya know.
It hasn't been a major issue with the tea party movement, but the Bill of Rights guarantees Americans the right to keep and bear arms.
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Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:16 pm
From what I saw of those who spoke at its convention, it has more in common with the Know Nothing Party of the 1840's than with those who opposed taxation without representation in the 1770's. Capitol gains taxes are at 15% That's the lowest they've been since before the great depression.
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Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:19 pm
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It hasn't been a major issue with the tea party movement, but the Bill of Rights guarantees Americans the right to keep and bear arms.
Tell that to a pilot.
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Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:22 pm
Can I have a nuclear weapon ? They are "arms" - the Constitution doesn't say what kind of arms.... does it? I want a big bad ass nuke to take to a Tea Party Convention and show it off. No intention of using it...I just wanna ---cuz I can.
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apodixisPosted:
Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:24 pm
pax wrote:
From what I saw of those who spoke at its convention, it has more in common with the Know Nothing Party of the 1840's than with those who opposed taxation without representation in the 1770's. Capitol gains taxes are at 15% That's the lowest they've been since before the great depression.
What fiscal conservatives are concerned about is the stealth taxation of such economic issues as deficit driven inflation, the collapse of the dollar and other transfers of wealth from Main street to Wall Street via crony capitalism.
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apodixisPosted:
Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:26 pm
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Can I have a nuclear weapon ? They are "arms" - the Constitution doesn't say what kind of arms.... does it?
When the constitution was written "arms" mean rifles and pistols. That term still pretty much applies.
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Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:30 pm
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Tell that to a pilot.
They want to be able to carry arms in the cockpit to protect against terrorist takeovers.
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resignedPosted:
Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:30 pm
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When the constitution was written arms mean rifles and pistols.
Spoken like a true liberal.
Freedom of the Press - is that print media only then?
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Spoken like a true liberal.
Freedom of the Press - is that print media only then?
The first amendment covers freedom of speech - over TV, radio, internet, etc. Presses produced pictures, so that covers visual arts.
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Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:40 pm
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The first amendment covers freedom of speech - over TV, radio, internet, etc. Presses produced pictures, so that covers visual arts.
They didn't have radio, tv, internet in 1773.
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paxPosted:
Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:22 am
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What fiscal conservatives are concerned about is the stealth taxation of such economic issues as deficit driven inflation, the collapse of the dollar and other transfers of wealth from Main street to Wall Street via crony capitalism.
I'm concerned about those things as well. Particularly since few democrats, no republicans, and no tea partiers as far as I can tell seem interested in reducing our staggering military spending. I also break from the tea party on the 'social conservative' crap, which imo restricts rather than expands civil liberties of individuals. Unless it broadens these views (and I doubt it will), I think it will primarily move the republican party even more right. That will further alienate people like me who find much of it scapegoating and offering vague platitudes instead of real policy.
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yankee-in-francePosted:
Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:03 am
I think that we need an Expresso Party ...... Real Coffee for Everyone.
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petalsPosted:
Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:23 am
apodixis wrote:
When the constitution was written "arms" mean rifles and pistols. That term still pretty much applies.
When the Constitution was written, the second amendment was included because of the lack of a permanent military and the need to raise a militia. I don't think that applies anymore.
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petalsPosted:
Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:25 am
apodixis wrote:
What fiscal conservatives are concerned about is the stealth taxation of such economic issues as deficit driven inflation, the collapse of the dollar and other transfers of wealth from Main street to Wall Street via crony capitalism.
This all makes for nice bumper stickers but what does any of it actually mean? Nothing but a bunch of empty slogans as far as I can tell. We know what the Tea Party opposes. Let me know as soon as the Tea Party articulates its first policy.
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yankee-in-francePosted:
Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:50 am
petals wrote:
This all makes for nice bumper stickers but what does any of it actually mean? Nothing but a bunch of empty slogans as far as I can tell. We know what the Tea Party opposes. Let me know as soon as the Tea Party articulates its first policy.
They did, Petals .... defeat the Democrats and they'll worry about policy later. Politics is more important than what the country needs.
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yankee-in-francePosted:
Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:52 am
petals wrote:
When the Constitution was written, the second amendment was included because of the lack of a permanent military and the need to raise a militia. I don't think that applies anymore.
Yes, it is really very simple to understand but those gun lovers don't get it.
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