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iwabwu PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:08 pm

A Sampling of Aruba in the News

Fairy Tale Tea will transform girls into princesses
03/25/2007

Good Works: Anna Ferguson
Mothers and daughters will be transformed into queens and princesses today during the magical Fairy Tale Tea being held from 2 to 5 p.m. at the Fox Theatre in Atlanta. The mother-daughter tea and fashion show will benefit Children’s Healthcare of Atlanta.
This year, the tea will be geared more toward older princesses, said Kerrie Harrison, co-chair of the event.
“Girls, typically ages 3 to about 10, dress up in their costume best or Sunday best, and they get to be princess for a day. We’re doing where Hollywood meets fairy princesses,” she said. “Younger girls will still have a ball, and the older girls will have a lot of fun, too. This year’s activities are more aimed at the older kids, whereas in past years, it has been more for the younger kids.”
A long red carpet will adorn the entryway into the Fox Theatre, with bands of photographers and faux paparazzi lining the walkway to snap pictures of the girls as they arrive. Once inside, attendees will find tables of arts and crafts activities for them to dig into for the first half of the event.
They can decorate handbags at the Bling Your Bag station, create star-styled sunglasses at Celebrity Shades and practice being on camera at a screen-test session. They can even get a bit of glamour from an on-site hair and makeup artist, who will get the girls ready for their close-ups.
“The girls can get all made up and add sparkles to their hair and create a shiny up-do,” Harrison said. “While the girls are playing, moms can accompany and help out. Things can get a little crazy with all those girls running around. ”
During the afternoon’s second half, tiny tea sandwiches, decadent cakes and scones will served while presenters speak about the hospital’s progress over the years. Dancers from Studio Atlanta are slated to perform and several high-caliber prizes, like a four-night stay at the Westin in Aruba and a specially designed play castle for kids, will be raffled off. To get all the participants involved in the day, a large screen will project the images taken by the photographers throughout the day.
“We wanted to make sure that everyone feels included,” Harrison said. “Pictures taken by our paparazzi, the screen tests, that’ll all be shown up on the big screen.”
Now in its 14th year, the tea remains a key fundraising event for Fairy Tale Friends, one of more than 30 volunteer groups at Children’s Healthcare of Atlanta. In past years, the event has raised anywhere from $20,000 to $40,000. This year, Harrison is aiming for $30,000, a goal the organization is close to reaching, she said.
It took Harrison and her committee nearly a year to organize, plan and schedule the tea. Through her journey of conceptualizing the event, she has taken away a newfound appreciation for the hospital.
“We often think of Children’s Healthcare as just an Atlanta resource, but it is one of the premier children’s hospitals in the country,” Harrison said. “It is truly an amazing facility and it does such tremendous work for children.”
Tickets are limited and are available for $70 each. For ticket and event information, call 404-785-7316 or visit www.choa.org.

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iwabwu PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:12 pm

'Dog Lady' needs help

Published: Saturday, March 24, 2007
By Lauren Ober
Free Press Staff Writer

Maria Balsam Malone was never a dog person in the traditional sense. Sure, she liked man's best friends, but she never thought she'd devote her latter years to taking care of them.

For the past decade, Malone, of Berkshire, has been caring for unwanted, neglected and abused dogs. Forty-eight, to be exact. Area residents know her as the "Dog Lady." But after a fall on the ice over the weekend that left her with a shattered kneecap, Malone, 73, won't be able to care for her dogs anymore.

As she was walking between two of her kennels, Malone slipped on the ice and landed on her kneecap. It took her 45 minutes to pull herself into the house to call for help. Even after her accident, the dogs were the first things on her mind.

A local woman, Sheila Tatro, helps with the dogs' upkeep on a part-time basis, but she can't take care of them by herself. Malone's son is working with local shelters, including North Country Animal League in Morrisville, and the Humane Society of Chittenden County in South Burlington, to place the dogs.

Malone, who has been described by those who know her as having a "heart of gold," has lived in Vermont for 25 years. She and her husband were successful psychiatrists in Manhattan who decided to move out of the city after Malone was diagnosed with breast cancer. Five years later, the couple did medical relief work in Aruba, Curacao and Bonaire, where both contracted Legionnaire's Disease. Her husband eventually died from the disease.

After his death, Malone started taking in dogs. She's not sure exactly how it happened, but one became two became 48.

"I had this big property and those poor things ... so many were unadoptable, but they were fine," Malone said, speaking by telephone from her hospital room at Northwestern Medical Center in St. Albans where she is recovering after reconstructive knee surgery.

Malone said all the dogs have been registered in the Berkshire town clerk's office and all have been spayed or neutered. The dogs have been seen by veterinarians at VCA Brown Animal Hospital.

Dogs have come to Malone in a variety of ways over the years. Some people have brought her dogs that were found, like Jude, a blind mutt that was recently fished out of a river. Others are abandoned on Malone's property, thrown over her fence by people who no longer can or want to care for them. One of her dogs came from New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.

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iwabwu PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:14 pm

Thelma Schoonmaker: Life on the cutting edge of film

Thelma Schoonmaker, winner of three Oscars, is Martin Scorsese's editor and was Michael Powell's wife. She tells Cathy Pryor about her work, and how to handle a temperamental genius

Published: 25 March 2007

Thelma Schoonmaker doesn't believe in silly ideas like fate. And yet she's hard put to find another word to explain the fortuitous meetings and turnings that have changed the course of her life. If she'd had it her way, for instance, she wouldn't have worked in films at all: she would have been a diplomat. But when she applied to the state department in 1961, fresh out of university, they turned her down: too liberal and honest for us, they said. Left at a loose end, she saw an ad in the New York Times, offering training to be a film editor - the first and only ad of its kind that she has ever seen. She applied for the job because she thought she might as well. Her boss turned out to be a "terrible old hack" who slashed and burned classic films for slots on late-night TV, and she hated it. But the process of cutting film began to intrigue her. And so, in 1963, she applied to a six-week summer school at New York University. While she was there, the lecturer approached her. There was a student in trouble. Someone had botched the negative cutting of his film dreadfully. He was very distressed. Could she help? Schoonmaker could, and was introduced to the student - Martin Scorsese.

Cut to 1977. Scorsese has well and truly come to public attention as the director of Mean Streets and Taxi Driver. Schoonmaker is an established film editor (though, due to her problems getting into the union, of which more later, the film on which she would begin her regular collaboration with Scorsese would be Raging Bull, released in 1980). The two are also firm personal friends. Scorsese, ever the enthusiast for movie history, loves the classic work of the British filmmakers Michael Powell and Emeric Pressburger. He can't understand why they aren't better known in America. "Marty was so intensely devoted to films," says Schoonmaker. "All of us would run off every night and see a new masterpiece by Kurosawa, Bergman, Truffaut. These films were just crashing into New York and Marty was learning all he could about these filmmakers. That's why he was so puzzled that he couldn't find anything to read about Powell and Pressburger, and that's why he went on his big search to find Michael." Find him he did, and he brought him to New York to help promote his films. Schoonmaker, who had fallen in love with Powell's films, promptly fell in love with the man himself. They married in 1984 - she was 45, he was 74 - and enjoyed what she describes as a blissfully happy union until Powell died in 1990.

Schoonmaker, now an Oscar-winning film editor who's worked almost exclusively with Scorsese for nearly 30 years (she won her third Oscar this year for The Departed), still seems endearingly gobsmacked by the chance events that led her to where she is today. She could so easily have done something completely different, she says. "I'm sure I would have if I hadn't seen the ad. It was quite extraordinary that I saw that. And then if I had taken the summer course a year later, Scorsese wouldn't have been there. And then it was absolute fate that he introduced me to my husband. I'm not a big believer in fate, but when I look at my life I have to say, well, you have to pay attention, don't you?"

Anyway, whether there's a little man in a cloud somewhere pulling long strings and saying "Oh come on, hurry up and make Goodfellas will you - I want to watch it", or whether we live in an entirely random universe, we can be grateful that Schoonmaker's life took the course it did. As great as Scorsese indisputably is, his films would not be in quite the same shape if they hadn't been edited by Schoonmaker. Ever since editing her first commercial film, Woodstock (1970), for which she was nominated for an Oscar for its experimental use of multiple images and freeze frames, her talent has been obvious. To give you two notable examples of her skills: if you've ever felt the depths of gangster Henry Hill's paranoia during the jittery sequence in Goodfellas that spans the day he gets arrested, you may not have noticed it, but the inventive and precise use of jump cuts and freeze frames has a great deal to do with its impact. Likewise, the fact that the fight scenes in Raging Bull flow with an astounding lyrical elegance and beauty that only serves to emphasise their shocking brutality is down, in no small part, to Schoonmaker. She herself demurs, and has said that it's all Scorsese, that that he directs like an editor and that they edit together. "He gives me beautifully thought out footage - you can't make something great through editing if you don't have strong footage to begin with" - but I'm sure he'd insist she was being absurdly modest. She has a musical ear as well as a good eye, too, judging by the satisfying rhythms of the storytelling and the seamless way her cuts fit with Scorsese's generally brilliant choice of accompanying song. But perhaps the best testament to her skill is that if you sit down in front of one of his films in order to pay attention to the editing and see what you can learn, you'll find - if you're anything like me, anyway - that within 60 seconds you'll have forgotten all about that and got sucked in to simply watching the story. And that, in a nutshell, is why she and Scorsese as a team are so good.

But though Schoonmaker is as famous as film editors get, her job is still not easy to appreciate from a layman's point of view. "You're presented with footage and when you put it together sometimes the way it was planned doesn't work," she says. "It might be too long, for example, or one actor is stronger than another, so you have to beef up the other actor and find a way to keep the balance between them. There's a thousand decisions that get made every day and that's why it's hard for people to understand. You'd have to sit here with me for months and months to see how a scene has been transformed into something entirely different, but you wouldn't understand the transformation unless you were here with me every step of the way. Sometimes people who see the changes ask 'How did you do that? How did you make that work better?', and it's so hard to explain. It's easier to explain camerawork, costumes, or lighting - sometimes even acting. It's not easy to explain editing."

It's a tremendously demanding job, too, she says, involving long hours seven days a week. Has technology not made the job easier over the years? "The digital thing has made experimenting easier, because I can do some very daring stuff and still have my original edit there," she says. "But the problem of being an artist in the film business, as Scorsese says, it's the same. Nothing changes! It's still hard! It's still an uphill battle to get good work done and to preserve it once you make it."

If the work is hard, however, the results speak for themselves: hence her recent Oscar for The Departed, even if it was somewhat overshadowed by Scorsese's win. Not that she minds. "It's really wonderful that Marty won at long last. We were praying for that. We didn't really expect to win adapted screenplay and editing and best picture, we thought maybe Babel would. Marty was so surprised. The first thing he said to me after the ceremony was 'And we won best picture too!' It would have been pretty devastating if he hadn't won. I don't think I could have taken it, frankly."

It's not surprising that her feelings on the subject are strong, since the two have clearly been through a lot, both good and bad. In fact, the way they work together on a film - her hard at work watching and cutting the footage, him sitting in the room directing the process, sometimes quietly reading a book while she gets on with the nuts and bolts of it - sounds like an old married couple. "Once he's seen whether the vision worked or not, when it comes to the three hours it's going to take to refine a scene he often will just go away, do other things, and then come back with a fresh eye," she has said. But Schoonmaker - who stays away from the set so she can approach the editing process with an unbiased mind - clearly never loses interest, no matter how difficult the work or how long the hours. Working with Marty is "like being in the best film school in the world," she says. "He's so enthusiastic about the filmmakers he admires and he infects you with his enthusiasm. That's why he's such a good teacher, he doesn't lecture you, he makes you excited and want to see all the films he loves. As for the work, it's so intense, so fulfilling, you feel so proud of the film at the end. I know many other editors who work on films they hate and they're bitter. I'm never that way."

Yet it can't all be positive, since Scorsese - a demanding, mercurial man, a little like Powell, in fact - is sometimes difficult to work with, surely? Schoonmaker admits he is moody "particularly when his work is being threatened", though she won't give specifics, saying merely that in arguments with the studio he will get heated and loud and bang the phone down. (I like to think of him doing a Joe Pesci in Goodfellas and shooting the nearest hapless assistant in the foot, but that's another story.) In any case, it's all part of her job to deal with it, she says. "His intensity and his moodiness is all part of being an artist. It's always because he's troubled about something artistic. Two days later he'll tell me something about the film that was causing his bad mood. For me it's all part of it." She likens Scorsese's intensity to Peeping Tom, written and directed by Powell, in which the main character, a photographer who is also a vicious killer, "can't get that shot quite right, so he's got to do it again and again, you know? That was Michael commenting on his own obsessiveness."

Powell never inflicted that obsessiveness on her, though, she says (she often slips from talking about Scorsese to talking about her husband, and vice versa). "To live with Michael was just fantastic. I never saw any of what I heard about his behavior on the set. Michael felt filmmaking was like a religion and if you came on his set unprepared he was merciless, because he didn't have big budgets. In those days he had one take. If that take didn't go well it was a big deal to do a second one. The way we shoot these days that's nothing, eight takes is quite common. But for Michael you had to be tuned up and ready to go and if you weren't up to his standard I understand he could be rather nasty. But I never saw it."

You get the impression speaking to Schoonmaker, a bubbly, warm, vibrant woman, that perhaps she's just adept at dealing with difficult men. "Yes, I know how to ride out the various moods," she says. "That's part of my job really. Staying calm is the best thing to do. Just ride it out."

Her ability to "ride it out" may well have something to do with her peripatetic upbringing. Her father worked for Standard Oil and moved from country to country with the job. "My parents were both American expatriates living in Paris when they met and then they moved to Algeria in 1937, where I was born. They would have loved to have stayed there but because of the North African invasion in World War II, we were evacuated to Lisbon when I was only one. My mother loved Algiers. She was always going out to the countryside riding camels and looking at archeological things. She was very adventurous, spoke several languages, gave me a fantastic interest in everything, particularly art and history. She's the main influence on my early life."

After Algeria became dangerous, Standard Oil moved the family to the Caribbean island of Aruba. "It was a beautiful little island. Quite dry - years ago pirates had put in there and cut down the trees to fix their ships, so it was just a coral outcrop - but with beautiful beaches. We would come home from school and throw off our shoes and run down the beach every day and go swimming. It was quite idyllic." But the family left Aruba to move back to America when Schoonmaker was 15. The change in culture came as a shock. "Suburban New Jersey was very conformist. If you weren't a cheerleader or a football player you were nobody. I didn't know anything about rock and roll. There weren't many students who were as interested as I was in literature or art. But when I went to Cornell University, from that point on, I was fine." At university Schoonmaker majored in political science and the Russian language and audited literature courses taught by none other than Vladimir Nabokov. "He was wonderful to listen to, but he had quite a bit of contempt for us as students. I understand that his wife read all of our papers because he was too bored by what we were saying to bother."


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iwabwu PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:16 pm

Everyone feel free to add your own stories...
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K Hemingway PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:23 pm

Here's a story....

The eternal child in the back seat asking “are we there yet?” every five minutes, Wabbi asks endless strings of loaded and mainly un-answerable questions like “Where is Natalee?”...

is finally showing some cracks of desperation and has been reduced to maniacal posting. Laughing Laughing Laughing




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charlierat PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:23 pm

Those were three very nice articles, Wabbi. Did you mean to post them? No offense but the articles you usually post seem to try to portray something (anything) negative about Aruba. There was nothing negative about Aruba in any one of those articles and two of them actually had downright positive things to say about the lovely island.

Ms. Schoonmaker is incorrect about pirates cutting down all the trees on the island. It is true that piracy was commonplace (and a real problem) on Aruba in the 17th and 18th centuries but it came to an abrupt end in 1797 when Fort Zoutman was completed. The reason that the island is not heavily forested has everything to do with the semi-arid climate and rocky soil and nothing to do with pirates.
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theCanadian PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:27 pm

iwabwu wrote:
'Dog Lady' needs help

Published: Saturday, March 24, 2007
By Lauren Ober
Free Press Staff Writer

Maria Balsam Malone was never a dog person in the traditional sense. Sure, she liked man's best friends, but she never thought she'd devote her latter years to taking care of them.

For the past decade, Malone, of Berkshire, has been caring for unwanted, neglected and abused dogs. Forty-eight, to be exact. Area residents know her as the "Dog Lady." But after a fall on the ice over the weekend that left her with a shattered kneecap, Malone, 73, won't be able to care for her dogs anymore.

As she was walking between two of her kennels, Malone slipped on the ice and landed on her kneecap. It took her 45 minutes to pull herself into the house to call for help. Even after her accident, the dogs were the first things on her mind.

A local woman, Sheila Tatro, helps with the dogs' upkeep on a part-time basis, but she can't take care of them by herself. Malone's son is working with local shelters, including North Country Animal League in Morrisville, and the Humane Society of Chittenden County in South Burlington, to place the dogs.

Malone, who has been described by those who know her as having a "heart of gold," has lived in Vermont for 25 years. She and her husband were successful psychiatrists in Manhattan who decided to move out of the city after Malone was diagnosed with breast cancer. Five years later, the couple did medical relief work in Aruba, Curacao and Bonaire, where both contracted Legionnaire's Disease. Her husband eventually died from the disease.

After his death, Malone started taking in dogs. She's not sure exactly how it happened, but one became two became 48.

"I had this big property and those poor things ... so many were unadoptable, but they were fine," Malone said, speaking by telephone from her hospital room at Northwestern Medical Center in St. Albans where she is recovering after reconstructive knee surgery.

Malone said all the dogs have been registered in the Berkshire town clerk's office and all have been spayed or neutered. The dogs have been seen by veterinarians at VCA Brown Animal Hospital.

Dogs have come to Malone in a variety of ways over the years. Some people have brought her dogs that were found, like Jude, a blind mutt that was recently fished out of a river. Others are abandoned on Malone's property, thrown over her fence by people who no longer can or want to care for them. One of her dogs came from New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.

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Please someone help this situation. If I lived on a farm I would consider taking in many homeless pets. How cruel of people to dump dogs, and other pets when they've had enough.
My second dog was a rescued American Eskimo mini of beautiful dispostion but with brown teeth, poor hair and skin. So intelligent and eager to please also.
Prospective pet owners, IMO, need to go through history checks just as prospective adoptive parents of children. Children, pets, women and the elderly are always at risk for abuse and neglect. Time for changes.




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iwabwu PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:28 pm

K Hemingway wrote:
Here's a story....

The eternal child in the back seat asking “are we there yet?” every five minutes, Wabbi asks endless strings of loaded and mainly un-answerable questions like “Where is Natalee?”...

is finally showing some cracks of desperation and has been reduced to maniacal posting. Laughing Laughing Laughing


JMHO - but I think J2K know what happened to Natalee that night and where she was left. That's where the trail begins and ends. JMHO
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iwabwu PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:31 pm

charlierat wrote:
Those were three very nice articles, Wabbi. Did you mean to post them? No offense but the articles you usually post seem to try to portray something (anything) negative about Aruba. There was nothing negative about Aruba in any one of those articles and two of them actually had downright positive things to say about the lovely island.

Ms. Schoonmaker is incorrect about pirates cutting down all the trees on the island. It is true that piracy was commonplace (and a real problem) on Aruba in the 17th and 18th centuries but it came to an abrupt end in 1797 when Fort Zoutman was completed. The reason that the island is not heavily forested has everything to do with the semi-arid climate and rocky soil and nothing to do with pirates.


Apparently, some are correct. There are good things about Aruba in the news. I just showed a sampling.
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Vladimir Repnin-Volkonsky PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:33 pm

Fall 2005 • The Georgia Council of Municipal Court Judges Newsletter • Vol. 6, No. 4

http://tinyurl.com/3eygq8

System Overload

By: Stan L. Hall
Chief Investigator, Gwinnett County
District Attorney Office

I, as well as many of you, have
watched with much interest the
recent missing person case in
Aruba involving Natalee Holloway.
The case has been a tragic event that
continues to take turns that make
this case quite confusing as to what
really may have happened.
Somewhere during my observation
of this case, I also began to become
interested in the Aruban judicial system
and how it differs from the one
that I have spent the last 26 years in
as an active participant. For those of
us who are not familiar with the
Dutch system, it can be confusing,
frustrating and somewhat baffling as
to why they may or may not do certain
things. I have heard many negative
comments about how the
Arubans should have done this or
done that and that if the case was in
the American system, it would have
probably been solved by now.
Granted, most of the comments
about the case, as well as the Aruban
system, have come from television
pundits who have very little knowledge
about the American system in a
practical sense, much less the Dutch
system at all. But, despite this they
are sure that the case is being handled
by a bunch of Caribbean buffoons
in swimming trunk shorts and
flip flops.
The fact that the Dutch system is
different does not necessarily mean
that it is inferior. It means that it is
different. But, rather than look at the
differences, lets look at the comparisons.
It has been alleged that one of
the suspects might get preferential
treatment because his father is an
Aruban Judicial officer. Now, as you
well know, no one in our country
would ever get preferential treatment.
Everyone is treated the same,
despite their backgrounds, their
income levels or their celebrity status.
I think that the only comment
that I would add to that is Hello, does
anyone remember the Michael
Jackson case or the countless other
celebrity/professional athlete cases
where preferential treatment was
just a tad obvious?
Critics are quick to point out
that the investigation has been
flubbed due to bad police work
involving searches, questioning,
investigative techniques, and etc.
Maybe so. I, like everyone else, have
no idea of the facts of the police
investigation. Time will tell whether
it was flubbed or not. Surely, in our
country, we have never had cases
that were tarnished based on inaccurate
information given to police.
American informants and those
involved in criminal enterprise are
always such reliable sources.
The police in Aruba are accused
of not giving out enough information.
The Arubans do seem to be
tight lipped about the biggest criminal
investigation that has ever
occurred on their island. One that
may have long term ramifications as
to their countrys economy. We are
different in this country about information.
We have everyone and their
brother who are willing to talk about
our cases. Knowledge of the case is
not necessarily required, and the fact
that this information, or misinformation,
may harm the credibility of the
case plays second fiddle to a good
news break.
The Arubans are accused of not
putting enough pressure on the suspects
to make them talk. Ever heard
of Miranda? In our country, once
this word is uttered, there is not a law
on the books that can make anyone
accused of a crime say another word.
The old line...We have ways to make
you talk is just as illegal in Aruba as
it is in our country. Government cannot
legally make anyone confess to a
crime even if the evidence is glaring.
That is why we have trials.
As Americans, we are quick to
criticize anything that seems a little
different than the way we do things.
We are this way based on the fact
that we believe that we simply are
the best at what we do, what ever it
might be. Even though I can not
speak for everything we do as
Americans, I can speak for our criminal
justice and judicial system and I
think that we do better than anyone
else in the world. But, our system is
not without flaws. And as long as we
are humans performing this task, it
will never be perfect. So, if we
admit that our system is imperfect,
we must be careful about what we
say about other systems.
Basically, if this case had
occurred on American soil and the
victim was Aruban, how much do
you think that our law enforcement
and judicial officials would listen to
Aruban demands about how the case
should be worked? How long would
we listen to them say, Well if we
were working it, it would have been
done this way or that way. The
answer to both of those questions is
not very long. We would tell them or
anyone else who tried to tell us how
to do our jobs to take a hike.
Amazingly they have not as of yet
told us to do the same. If we are not
very careful, they might! By criticizing,
demanding and publicly chastising
the very system that has jurisdiction
in this case, the search for a
missing girl may get lost in a literal
sea known as politics, pride and prejudice.
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K Hemingway PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:35 pm

I believe you have finally showed your desperation, and your fangs iwabwi.

Finally cracked under that facade.




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charlierat PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:38 pm

iwabwu wrote:
charlierat wrote:
Those were three very nice articles, Wabbi. Did you mean to post them? No offense but the articles you usually post seem to try to portray something (anything) negative about Aruba. There was nothing negative about Aruba in any one of those articles and two of them actually had downright positive things to say about the lovely island.

Ms. Schoonmaker is incorrect about pirates cutting down all the trees on the island. It is true that piracy was commonplace (and a real problem) on Aruba in the 17th and 18th centuries but it came to an abrupt end in 1797 when Fort Zoutman was completed. The reason that the island is not heavily forested has everything to do with the semi-arid climate and rocky soil and nothing to do with pirates.


Apparently, some are correct. There are good things about Aruba in the news. I just showed a sampling.

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Ellen wrote:
Our daughter and her friend went for their spring break to Aruba thru mcm tours(Aruba 4 U) on US Air. They were supposed to return on Sat. They gave themselves a buffer of a day to get back to college. Sat we told them there was a storm here Friday and to call the airport early. They were told that the flight had been cancelled and the airport in Aruba told them it would be a $100 change fee. Our daughter said fine, just get us on a flight. She was put on hold and then they came back and told her she couldn't get back until until 5 days later on Thursday night. Of course they had midterm exams this week and were not happy. We called US Air from the states and were on hold for 7 and a half hours until we hung up. We then went and waited an hour in line at our local airport BDL and were told it was true they couldn't return until Thursday. On our own, we scrambled and were able to pick up an American flight to Miami on Tuesday and then thru Orbitz only, a flight from Miami to Prov(where they go to college) on USAir. (although they arrived to Aruba thru LGA) The airlines said they were in fact not responsible for any of it. The good part of the story is all the wonderful people who offered these 20 year old girls help on the island. Some were people that we have come to know over the years at the watersports hut near the Marriott. They offered them money and a place to stay and gave them their cell phone numbers. The Holiday Inn offered them a reduced rate on their room since they had been staying there. People who owned restaurants that my husband and I have visited with our kids over the years offered them a place to stay and asked if they needed anything. Waiters asked if they needed anything. This is a story that people dont here. The good stories of the honest warm friendly people of this island. I can never repay the people for all of their kindness. These girls were treated so well. They will hopefully get home tomorrow night. It was so comforting to know how all these people treated them. I just thought you would like to hear a good story. Not one of crime which can happen anywhere. That is why we return to this wonderful island time and time again.


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Hannie PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:45 pm

Great article Vlad, that seems an intelligent person who wrote that one, Wink
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iwabwu PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:58 pm

K Hemingway wrote:
I believe you have finally showed your desperation, and your fangs iwabwi.

Finally cracked under that facade.


Why, do others not post the good stories?

Why, just the negative about people in the case?
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Also_Dutch PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:48 am

Vlad, great find! I'll bet there are more, but this is the first I saw of someone that is actually an expert and someone who knows what he is talking about. He probably has a REAL job, so he doesn't need to be paid by Fox!


Wabbi, it is time to get of your high horse about Aruba! Read the article that Vlad posted very carefully and try to comprehent what it says. Then, listen to the word spoken by Congressman Bacchus very carefully and try to understand what he is saying!

...but then again if you really insist on looking for articles that put Aruba in a bad light or reports of bad things happening on Aruba I will take up the challenge to post everything that has ever been written that puts the US in a bad light and I will only use local news sources. Bet I'll win!

(to the other people on this forum, I have a life, so I won't post or look for these things) Wink




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