"31 days 2B explained in 1st min. of opening - Baez

[Heli]

I honestly cannot wait to hear this.

I'm open to hearing it and considering it and giving it the weight it deserves in the context of all the other evidence.

Honestly, I can't come up with one scenario that would reasonably explain a missing child whose mother NEVER reports her missing to a soul. She was forced to disclose when confronted by Cindy and Cindy called police.

Anyone have any thoughts about what Baez will come up with in the first minute? We're told the nanny defence is out. Okay ... I'll say she found Caylee dead or near death at the house and because of her allegations of sexual, emotional, verbal and physical abuse at the hands of George and/or Cindy, she knew they were somehow responsible. Her fear of them forced her to remove the child from the premises and be virtually incommunicado with her parents for that month. Fear of retribution by her parents will be her defence for not reporting or some variation of that. Whatever it is, I believe it will involve throwing George, Cindy and/or Lee under the bus

[dugo]

Hot-car-death .. Cindy & George the kind of parents you'd rather avoid in such a situation.

[CherokeeKid]

My guess: Baez will stay with the party line that Casey did her "own investigation" and that she was "scared" to tell her parents or the police.

When the jury hears about Cindy and George, he actually has a point, those two behaved at times in a scary way! IMO.

[Ber]

does the trial begin tomororw?

[CherokeeKid]

does the trial begin tomororw?

Tuesday

[PufPuf93]

I have always considered an accidental death by negligence that Casey and Cindy and likely George (now if not then) know about probable and perhaps Casey herself does not know the details but may have been part of body disposal.

What if Cindy devised a master plan involving the 31 days that ultimately brought the heat on Casey? Maybe the "Nanny" Cindy knew the child was deceased prior to Casey? Out of box, yes, but explains Casey's attitude toward Cindy and George.

I doubt any Anthony realized the high profile nor charges to be brought against Casey.

I do not like nor trust the Anthony's but Kaylee seems to have been a loved and usually cared for child.

[Heli]

Hot-car-death .. Cindy & George the kind of parents you'd rather avoid in such a situation.

Can't disagree with the basic premise of this scenario BUT what kind of mother would carry the body in her trunk and be out partying, buying beer and lingerie with stolen cheques and otherwise have a grand old time? This is the conduct that flies in the face of any story about fear of George and Cindy. It is consistent with the behaviour of someone with antisocial personality disorder or borderline personality.

[PufPuf93]

Can't disagree with the basic premise of this scenario BUT what kind of mother would carry the body in her trunk and be out partying, buying beer and lingerie with stolen cheques and otherwise have a grand old time? This is the conduct that flies in the face of any story about fear of George and Cindy. It is consistent with the behaviour of someone with antisocial personality disorder or borderline personality.

I think the weak argument I made was that Casey thought the "Nanny" Cindy had Kaylee covered and Casey was 2nd or 3rd to know from group negligence and said nothing about Casey's basic lifestyle as a user, liar, and thief.

The DSM manual diagnosis seem apt, borderline (and bi-polar) even have an identified genetic component but would not want to pull an ex-Senator Frist diagnosis.

The Anthony's appear a dysfunctional and toxic family, over-extended.

[LovelyPigeon]

I haven't been able to come up with a defense explanation that leaves Casey innocent. Everything I've imagined so far is so easily picked apart with the evidence in the case, which includes what Casey did, what she didn't do, and the physical evidence (hair with postmortem band, smell of decomposition, duct tape, etc).

I think that when we hear what Baez has to say, we are going to immediately question "what about this, this, and this?" He hasn't been convincing yet over these 3 years with what he's had to say inside and outside of court.

[dugo]

Can't disagree with the basic premise of this scenario BUT what kind of mother would carry the body in her trunk and be out partying, buying beer and lingerie with stolen cheques and otherwise have a grand old time? This is the conduct that flies in the face of any story about fear of George and Cindy. It is consistent with the behaviour of someone with antisocial personality disorder or borderline personality.

What else can you do when you can't bring yourself to fessing up that eg. you were so stupid you thought you could hide a kid w/ duct tape over the mouth in the trunk while running an errand? Go home and the Zanny story won't work (as evidenced what happened when Cindy got a hold of Casey). Drive it to the woods, at least bury it. Then what? Is there some rule book on what to do when you completely and utterly fucked up? Not everyone is like Donald Trump and comes out winning.

[dugo]

Anyways, if he wants the jury to be able to see what happened from Casey her perspective that requires telling what happened in the first place. I somehow doubt they will go into the details, considering it will only take a minute.

[bbeba103]

Their seems to be a lot of scenarios going around but to really know which one you first need to know who will they blame and point the finger to, Casey has pleaded not guilty if I am correct first clue someone else will be the killer.

Depending on who that killer will be that's how Casey's lawyers will explain away their case my best defense strategy would be Roy C.

Jmo.

Wouldn't it be interesting if the defense would say that Casey and Roy were romanticaly involved and that he was the so called " nanny " who was watching little Caylee while Casey was out living the vida loca.

And that therefore Roy the meter man knew exactly the location where the remains were discovered by that same person, seeing how he was their three times in that very same location.

They can say a killer always return to the location where the crime took place and present to the jury that eqquasearch did a search of that very same location yet nothing was found.

Seeing how Casey dated multiple guys could also fit in this scenario so Casey was also dating Roy now that would be a twist. LOL

Doubt it but I don't see how else they will show tot mom is innocent is beyond me..

[dugo]

Their seems to be a lot of scenarios going around but to really know which one you first need to know who will they blame and point the finger to, Casey has pleaded not guilty if I am correct first clue someone else will be the killer.

The plea is Not Guilty to the charges as filed. With Casey I get the idea Caylee died because of enormous stupidity rather than outright whacking her to get rid of it. I could easily be wrong here though. Gross negligence isn't one of the charges, right!? and even then, it is up to the state to prove that anyways, not to the suspect.

[snip]Kronk[snip]

If there is any bloody evidence that points to a killer not Casey it would have been shared w/ the prosecution/police by now. I don't expect surprises.

[LovelyPigeon]

Their seems to be a lot of scenarios going around but to really know which one you first need to know who will they blame and point the finger to, Casey has pleaded not guilty if I am correct first clue someone else will be the killer.

Depending on who that killer will be that's how Casey's lawyers will explain away their case my best defense strategy would be Roy C.

Jmo.

Wouldn't it be interesting if the defense would say that Casey and Roy were romanticaly involved and that he was the so called " nanny " who was watching little Caylee while Casey was out living the vida loca.

And that therefore Roy the meter man knew exactly the location where the remains were discovered by that same person, seeing how he was their three times in that very same location.

They can say a killer always return to the location where the crime took place and present to the jury that eqquasearch did a search of that very same location yet nothing was found.

Seeing how Casey dated multiple guys could also fit in this scenario so Casey was also dating Roy now that would be a twist. LOL

Doubt it but I don't see how else they will show tot mom is innocent is beyond me..

There's absolutely nothing to tie Casey to Roy Kronk. There's not a chance in a million that Casey would try and link herself to RK, and she couldn't do it anyway unless she testifies. The prosecution would wrap her up in that lie, if she attempted it, in less time than she could take to tell it.

Baez may claim that Casey was abused by George, as she told several people before and after the crime that she hated him and suspected he had abused her "when she was much younger"; that Casey feared George would abuse Caylee but was afraid to try and prevent it; that George killed Caylee on June 16 or that she died accidentally and George took care of disposing of Caylee's body; that George gave Casey a script to follow for 30 days; that Casey acted out over 30 days whatever George laid out in fear of her own life; etc.

I wouldn't believe it, but Baez might think he can get at least one juror to believe it.

[CSI]

Do you think that George and Lee will accept the sexual abuse charges and not fight them so Casey maybe will not get the death penality?

[CherokeeKid]

Do you think that George and Lee will accept the sexual abuse charges and not fight them so Casey maybe will not get the death penality?

No.

I rather think that Baez will claim that Caylee's death was accidental and not premeditated murder.

And he will try to show that Casey is an emotional person who loved Caylee. Like when he cracked a joke in court just a few days ago and Casey started laughing with the rest of the courtroom. I guess, he will make much more jokes so that Casey does not just sit there with a face of stone. JMO.

[LovelyPigeon]

Do you think that George and Lee will accept the sexual abuse charges and not fight them so Casey maybe will not get the death penality?

So far George and Lee have not accepted the sexual abuse allegations. They have denied them.

I cannot imagine either of them admitting at trial under oath that they abused Casey. It's well documented that Casey lies and I think that is how both of them would explain such accusations from Casey if they are claimed by the defense.

[gwen]

Last minute evidence may shift direction of trial

Orlando, FL —

A possilbe change in direction coming at the 11th hour in the state vs. Casey Anthony case. The defense has filed some additional last minute discoveries. Now its widely believed that Jose Baez might change course and claim that Caylee was killed by accident.

Channel 9 and WDBO legal anyaliust Bill Schafer says it a dangerous road to travel. It would be now diffcult to explain how Caylee body tuning up in garbage bags in the woods with her skull wrapped in duct tape could be an accident.

But up first at 9 a.m., the state prosecutors will put up there best pictures of Caylee on the screen and play their most compelling audio. Such audio includes the now imfamous of Casey mother Cindy calling 911 to report the horrible smell coming from her daughters car.

The defense may also claim Casey was sexually abused by both her dad and brother.

“George is a good fall guy for them, on many difference levels but each and everyone of the these avenues has very deep pitfalls,” Says Shafer.

Opening arguments begin at 9 a.m. and you can hear them on AM 580 WDBO.

http://www.wdbo.com/news/news/local/las ... ial/nCmjq/

[Ber]

It sounds like Jose doesn't have any idea how he's planning to defend Casey. Again, I think she'd be better off representing herself. I wonder if he'll have that same smug smile on his face. Also, wonder if Casey will be talking to him???

[Ber]

george is holding a bible?

[Ber]

wonder what is going through Casey's head/??

[Pronkjewail]

Im shocked by how bad Casey looks.

[CSI]

Im shocked by how bad Casey looks.

Me too - I wonder if she is on medication for the trial. I also noticed at the break her shirt was straightened up.

[CSI]

Baez sure looks uncomfortable.

[Ber]

Amazing...she just shakes her head....if that was my daughter's remains that had been found like that and I was innocent, I'd be sobbing for sure.