General Discussion

[Seraph]

Hello all, this case gets stranger by the day. Now they are looking for five people who attended a drugs, drink and sex party at the flat. What a terrifying ordeal for Meredeth. It must be heartbreaking for her parents to have to hear about the details everyday. I hope the case is quickly dealt with, but I fear there is more to come. It sounds like a parents worse nightmare, I know it's mine, I have three daughters at University.

[iquitos]

could be that explains the fog some were in. i still think this was purposeful and that knox had a role. but the kid using the i pod defense is on thin ice. two of the arrested people have testified they heard but did not see. what is that all about? i see revenge as a motive and i think knox was involved and knows who did it.

[SavannahStar]

could be that explains the fog some were in. i still think this was purposeful and that knox had a role. but the kid using the i pod defense is on thin ice. two of the arrested people have testified they heard but did not see. what is that all about? i see revenge as a motive and i think knox was involved and knows who did it.

I agree about Knox. She is a NASTY character.......I feel sorry for her family, to imagine she is involved in this.

[victims cry]

im blushing .. next time guys send me a pm when i spell the name incorrectly

[Isanah]

iquitos



Joined: 26 Mar 2006
Posts: 6345

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:31 pm Post subject: this young lady has created a real problem for herself and

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her boyfriend. i have not seen the marijuana defense before. looks like the sierra leonian boy is cooked. they found dna. what was knox's role? looks like the time of death is in doubt too. too bad they didn't grand patrick's request that the body be checked again before shipment. now they have a problem. but the dan in her is pretty damning. how will amanda wiggle out of this?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 926812.ece





Dan was in her??? Has Dan from RWV been over there???

[Mia]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article2957581.ece

Amanda Knox, the American student being investigated over the murder of Meredith Kercher, was definitely at the crime scene and even left a bloody fingerprint, Italian prosecutors said last night.

Giuliano Mignini, the Perugia prosecutor, said that Ms Knox’s blood had been found on a tap in the bathroom despite her alleged attempts to “clean up” all traces of herself.

Mia

[BhamMom]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article2957581.ece

Amanda Knox, the American student being investigated over the murder of Meredith Kercher, was definitely at the crime scene and even left a bloody fingerprint, Italian prosecutors said last night.

Giuliano Mignini, the Perugia prosecutor, said that Ms Knox’s blood had been found on a tap in the bathroom despite her alleged attempts to “clean up” all traces of herself.

Mia

Not being defensive here but.......when you get a cut don't you usually wash it before you put medicine on it? It was her blood and I don't find it unusual that some would be on the tap.

[Mia]

Not being defensive here but.......when you get a cut don't you usually wash it before you put medicine on it? It was her blood and I don't find it unusual that some would be on the tap.

Normally I would agree. On its own it would be nothing imo

But considering her dna was found on a knife with that of the victims.

The fact the place had been cleaned thoroughly with bleach.

Her original confession to having committed the crime.

The fact she said Patrick Diya Lumumba killed Meredith, and they (LE) can't find a trace of his dna or any evidence of his having been in the house.

The fact that on her myspace site she had written a short story just prior to the murder about a young girl being kidnapped and killed.

Make her look darn guilty imo.

There are more things I could point out. Put it all together and you get a fuller picture.

Fact is imo there is more pointing toward this girl being guilty then there was in the Laci Peterson case pointing to Scott.

I of course could be wrong. Time will tell.

Mia

[Seraph]

Not being defensive here but.......when you get a cut don't you usually wash it before you put medicine on it? It was her blood and I don't find it unusual that some would be on the tap.

Normally I would agree. On its own it would be nothing imo

But considering her dna was found on a knife with that of the victims.

The fact the place had been cleaned thoroughly with bleach.

Her original confession to having committed the crime.

The fact she said Patrick Diya Lumumba killed Meredith, and they (LE) can't find a trace of his dna or any evidence of his having been in the house.

The fact that on her myspace site she had written a short story just prior to the murder about a young girl being kidnapped and killed.

Make her look darn guilty imo.

There are more things I could point out. Put it all together and you get a fuller picture.

Fact is imo there is more pointing toward this girl being guilty then there was in the Laci Peterson case pointing to Scott.

I of course could be wrong. Time will tell.

Mia

Mia,
I agree with you and everyday more information comes out to substantiate that opinion.

[all10suspects]

I hope the Italians give Amanda 30 years. First for taken part of killing
of her flatmate and then making the bad choice of being around 2 of the suspects in this case. I do not think Meredith would have hung out with those 2 suspects. The only good thing is it will be the Italian tax payers paying to keep her in jail and not US taxpayers.

[skepticynic]

Where I am, everyone is going on and on about what a nice girl Amanda is, but all I was seeing was a pathological liar whose story shifted with the winds. Ditto for her f***buddy....I would not call a week long relationship a "boyfriend" especially in light of stuff released to media outlets on his (and hers) MySpace page (the noose of criminals everywhere.) This apartment was scrubbed with bleach, completely sanitized, no evidence of even the dead woman in the rest of the house. Yet this dumb bimbo leaves blood and a print on the sink...blood that is on the handle of the knife that has Meredith's on the blade....and lies about it. She lied about her boss being there. She lied about not being there, then being there, then not being there again. Keep on digging, I don't think you hit China yet.

Come on, Mandy, let's see you wiggle out of the net that just tightened a little more. Let's see you conjure up a good lie. You can use the hashish defense...keep us posted on how that works out for you...maybe drunk drivers can get off the hook by claiming they were too drunk to not know to drive.

By the way, Italian jails are meaner than ours: no Jacuzzi, no college on taxpayer dollars, no free gym memberships. Wonder if they are like some Asian prisons...you don't get food. Your relatives have to bring you food or you starve. In other countries prison is not free vacation like here.

[George]

I hope the Italians give Amanda 30 years. First for taken part of killing
of her flatmate and then making the bad choice of being around 2 of the suspects in this case. I do not think Meredith would have hung out with those 2 suspects. The only good thing is it will be the Italian tax payers paying to keep her in jail and not US taxpayers.

And the Dutch tax payers paying for your babbling media circus entertainment on Aruba. What's next?
I think should Knox be convicted, one of the many thousands of overcrowded, crappy and dangerous US prisons is the right place for her.

[Schmerty]

GEEZE LOUEZEE!!! Amanda Knox you are notgoingcrazy. You have been crazy, evil & unbearable for years. I don't think you can get any worse.

[George]

Newest press clip added (go to press clips thread)

[skepticynic]

Both Knox and bf will be spending Christmas and beyond behind bars.

http://www.kirotv.com/news/14737215/detail.html

PERUGIA, Italy -- An Italian court has ordered University of Washington student Amanda Knox and her boyfriend to stay in jail while officials investigate the death of her roommate.

Knox and her boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito have been jailed since Nov. 6 in the death of Meredith Kercher, whose body was found Nov. 2. Police say she had been stabbed in the neck during a sexual assault.

At today's hearing Knox's lawyer said she made a brief statement asserting her innocence.

The boyfriend also has said he is not responsible for the death.

Another suspect was arrested in Germany and is being transferred back to the Italian town of Perugia.

[batmanCJ]

So, I admit that I have a rocky relationship with my mom and I certainly question some of her choices in husbands (yes, husbands, plural)- and trust me - there have been some bad ones. But, for the press to somehow infer that Amanda possibly being involved in this murder b/c of her mother's choices of a husband???? Shaking my head! Clearly, we don't know the whole story, but gimme a break.

Check out this article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/f ... ge_id=1879

[iquitos]

he says he saw the killer when he came out of the shitter with his pants down around his knees due to some bad kebab (not the pants the shitter) . he heard nothing due to his walkman. says there was blood all over. i think he is lying.

[batmanCJ]

This case is so strange!

Doesn't seem that there is any DNA from the Italian "boyfriend" of Knox at the crime scene at this point, well at least that we know of yet.

Strange stuff:
1. The reports show that the scene was cleaned with bleach and Knox's fingerprints were wiped away in the whole apartment including her room...all they found was a fingerprint of her's on a coffee mug in the kitchen. The apartment was trashed, but Knox's bedroom was not.
2. Receipts for bleach found at Solecito's apartment.
3. Knife found in Solecito's apartment with DNA from Meredith and Amanda
4. CCTV footage shows what authorities believe to be Knox entering the apartment around 8:45
5. Knox changing her story several times and then admitting to being so stoned that she can't really remember anything????
6. Meredith's missing money and then Knox found with a large amount of money on her - slightly less than what was missing from Meredith.
7. Guede - the drug dealer with his bloody prints and DNA all over the place and his admission that he had "consensual" sex with Meredith that night and then had some "gastric issues", went to the bathroom and came out to find the "real" killer fleeing the scene.
8. Reports from eye witnesses that they saw Guede out dancing in a club until all hours that morning - what??? If he had just seen this woman dying at the hands of a murderer and fled b/c of fear, would he have gone out clubbing after the fact? And, on that note, if he murdered her, how could he go out clubbing after the fact?

Bottom line, what a horrible way for this young girl to die - a violent, sexual attack!

It is going to be interesting to see how this unfolds.

[iquitos]

miss knox and a guy in a laundromat doing the bedding.

[yankee-in-france]

Have just been catching up on this case, and it is terribly sad.

I am not into rushing to judgment, but there is evidence here linking her to the murder weapon and site. She is not a suspect merely because she was a roommate of Meredith.

Note to All10: I do not understand your comments about Knox and the others receiving a sentence of 30 years. Under Italian law, is that the sentence for possibly premeditated murder?

[pax]

Thanks wvgirl and gwen. Fascinating case.

[olympic]

A court date has been set to decide if anyone will face trial over the murder of British student Meredith Kercher in Italy.

A judge is expected to rule on September 16 whether American Amanda Knox, 21, her former Italian boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito and Rudy Hermann Guede from the Ivory Coast should be tried, Sollecito's lawyer Luca Maori said.

Meredith ,21, a Leeds University student from south London, was found dead in November from a stab wound to the neck in the house she shared with Knox in Perugia.


Amanda Knox



Raffaele Sollecito


Rudy Herman Guede

[olympic]

ROME — A date has been set for a court hearing on whether a UW student and two other suspects in the slaying of a British college student in Italy must face trial, a lawyer for one of the suspects said Wednesday.

A judge is expected to rule at the Sept. 16 hearing on whether Amanda Knox, 21, of Seattle; her former Italian boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito; and Ivory Coast citizen Rudy Hermann Guede be tried for the slaying of Meredith Kercher, said Sollecito's lawyer Luca Maori.

Prosecutors want to try the three for the slaying of Meredith Kercher, a 21-year-old student from Leeds University in England who was found dead in November from a stab wound to the neck in the house she shared with Knox in Perugia, central Italy.

Prosecutors also have requested the three be tried on charges of sexual violence and stealing $475, two credit cards and two cell phones from Kercher.

All three have denied any wrongdoing.

Knox and Sollecito have been jailed since November. Guede was arrested later in Germany and extradited to Italy in December.

[pax]

Thanks olympic.

September 16 for a ruling on whether to go to trial. I'd bet they will. I wonder whether any of the three defendants might request separate trials.

[woebedamned]

Am I correct in assuming the Sept date is the Italian version of a prelim?