Katie wrote:That is totally heart breaking
That poor woman
Did you HEAR it, in addition to reading the transcript? VERY heartbreaking, yes.
Early reports are often rife with error.
Well I dunno, CK......not really I don't think. If the "real" mother/father were very young/unable to take care of a kid. I hear a lot about grandparents raising the kids.....not a stretch to literally adopt them.
If I did know anything about the "real" parents, I've about forgotten now though. This case has SO dragged on. I PRAY they find the killer(s). This is such a tragic crime.
LovelyPigeon wrote:Here is Taylor's obituary from http://shurdenfuneralhome.homestead.com/obituary05.html
Taylor Dawn Paschal-Placker, a resident of Weleetka was born March 6, 1995 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma to Vicky and Peter Placker. She passed away Sunday, June 8, 2008 in Weleetka, Oklahoma at the age of 13 years 3 months and 2 days.
Taylor atended Graham school where she was involved in the 4H club, cheerleading, and was on the Superintendent's Honor Role.
She was preceded in death by maternal grandparents, Ruby and Carl Paschal, and by her pateral grandparents, Petra & Arvie Placker.
Taylor leaves behind her Mother and Father, Peter & Vicky Placker, Weleetka;
2 brothers, Jessie Paschal, Weleetka;
Chris Placker, Sallisaw;
2 sisters, Jennifer Paschal, Weleetka;
Linda Kaye Placker, Weleetka;
As well as a host of uncles, aunts, cousins, friends, and other relatives.
Just as a matter of my curiousity, who would be the mother of Taylor? Although the obit says she was "born to" Vicky and Peter Placker, her surname is Paschal-Placker, and Peter Placker says he is actually her biological grandfather although he raised Taylor as a daughter.
Apparently Vicky was a Paschal when she married Peter Placker, and their combined surnames are given to Taylor.
Help me figure out that puzzle, please, even though it's probably of no relation to the murders.
That's fact for sure, Woe, but this wasn't just a brief early report...seems like it was discussed on many TH shows and repeated a lot on various news reports. So....it's really odd.
A BIG point of discussion, as a matter of fact, was why he would use Taylor's cell phone to make the 911 call.....she was laying down in the ditch, dead, so what did he do, grab the phone off her body, and call?
Just all very strange. I'm sure it could be cleared up in a heartbeat though, if news would only get their stories straight. I don't doubt Peter Placker did make a call.......so did she, I guess.....WHY did LE choose to make THIS one public? And who called first.
CherokeeKid wrote:Thanks for all the info, LP!
I'm quite puzzles about the court records! And that drugs played a role with some family members.
I think there is a possibility that the life style/connections with this family could have something to do with the killings of the two little girls. Not that the family is involved but that they had something to do with the wrong people, IMO.
The police made some indications like (paraphrasing) "maybe those girls were targeted" and "establish which relationship those girls had with the perp(s)".
I hope the police solves this case soon!
Hi, CherokeeKid, I second your thanks to LovelyPigeon; these court records don't implicate family members in the crime, but, as you suggest, it does raise worries that neighborhood lifestyles had something to do with these terrible killings. It's possible, of course, that they were revenge killings for some non-payment or non-delivery, or perhaps they were just adrenaline murder mistakes by some edgy cokehead or meth addict waiting for his connection.
Hi Astor, Thanks for your kind words. And yes LovelyPigeon did some great research!
IMO, the lifestyle of the family could have put those girls on a higher risk. But in today's society, it's very difficult to say what really happened as there are some perps out there who don't need a motive, they might just kill for the "thrill" as you mentioned.
The Grove case comes to mind. It seemed very much that it was drug related, they way the two adults and the teenage boy were killed in such a brutal way looked like it was some kind of revenge. And LE thought there must have been more than just one perp to overpower that family. I was very surprised that Duncan, a smaller guy, was the perp and his motive, to kidnap and moleste those two small kids, was just puzzling to me.
I hope this case will be solved soon. That someone will talk. What coward/s to gun down those two young girls.
dragonfly wrote:It just seems too much of an "out of the way" area for someone to just drive by and kill two kids for the heck of it.
A Voice of Sanity wrote:One thing to remember here is that is someone killed one girl, he(?) was pretty much forced to kill the other one. Even if the first shot was an accident it is not impossible that he panicked and made sure both were dead. There is also the possibility of "buck fever" at play. But, yes, tis does not appear to be an area where accidental drive-by shootings would be common.
buck fever - nervous excitement of an inexperienced hunter; sometimes causes repeated shots at a target animal.
``I have written in these pages about my first hunting experience with a legal deer. When that chance arose, my conscious mind froze - they call it "buck fever." I had no experience to fall back on, therefore my autopilot drew a blank and induced me to stand there like an idiot - a wheezing, trembling, adrenaline-filled idiot with knees of Jell-o and one hell of a heart rate - until the deer calmly walked away. My autopilot did nothing for me during that encounter.''
I'm trying to figure out why someone would do something as bad as this is. It certainly isn't gang banger territory. Some idiots shoot off guns for no good reason.dragonfly wrote:Certainly makes sense, but I don't believe there is any active hunting season at this time that would require any type of rifle. Shotgun, maybe, but not anything high powered. Deer season is, of course, in the fall and winter. I'll look it up though and see what I can find.
CherokeeKid wrote:Autopsy Reports Say Weleetka Girls Shot Several Times
Skyla Whitaker, Taylor Paschal-Placker Gunned Down On Rural Road
POSTED: 3:33 pm CDT August 8, 2008
UPDATED: 9:28 pm CDT August 8, 2008
WELEETKA, Okla. -- Reports released Friday afternoon by Oklahoma's chief medical examiner show two girls from Weleetka were both shot several times.
Skyla Whitaker, 11, and Taylor Paschal-Placker, 13, were gunned down on a rural road near their homes in Okfuskee County on June 8, Eyewitness News 5 reported.
"This was very deliberate," said Jessica Brown of the Oklahoma Bureau of Investigation. "(They were) shot multiple times. Not two or three, but multiple times."
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Video: Autopsies Released in Weleetka Killings Case
No one has been arrested in the case and no official suspect has been named.
The Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation has been leading the investigation and a spokesperson said the bureau has had the reports for some time.
The report on Whitaker showed eight gunshot wounds to the torso and arms. Paschal's autopsy report revealed five gunshot wounds, including three in the face, Eyewitness News 5 reported.
According to the report, investigators determined Whitaker was a few feet behind Paschal when the girls were attacked.
"This only gives us an indication that they were within feet of their killer or killers," Brown said.
She also said whoever shot the girls used two guns, one with lead-coated bullets that was small in size and a second with medium-sized copper-jacketed bullets.
Investigators released a sketch of a man they want to interview about the case but have not been able to find him.
Skyla and Taylor's families are hopeful the information will help put the killer or killers behind bars.
"I know they will catch them eventually," said William Whitaker, Skyla's father. "No matter what the court system does to this person it will never be enough. It will never bring my daughter back."
"We are getting through it with help from friends and family and the community and everything, but it is rough. Real rough," said Peter Placker, Taylor's grandfather.
Police ask anyone with potentially helpful information to call the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation at 800-522-8017.
http://www.koco.com/news/17136365/detai ... l&psp=news
AC wrote:Thank goodness something is happening in this case!
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