Joran Van der Sloot, June 9, 2005
PROCES-VERBAAL
We, Dennis Domenico JACOBS and Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES, head police officer and police officer first class with the Korps Politie Aruba, first mentioned officer is attached to the Robbery Protection Team (Atraco Team) and last mentioned officer is attached to the Section Often Occuring Crimes District 2, declare/state the following.
On June 9th 2005, at approximately 12.00 hours, we the reporting officers interviewed as suspect in this the man named: Joran Andreas Petrus van der SLOOT, born in Arnhem, Netherlands on August 6th 1987, no profession student (International School of Aruba) and living on Montanja number 19 on Aruba.
His statement was made in dutch and was transcribed by me, JACOBS, and goes as follows.
Before we, the reporting officers, started the interview, I, JACOBS, informed the suspect that he was not obliged to make a statement and that this interview would be recorded on tape.
Although I have been informed by you that I under no obligation to make statements, I am still willing to make a statement in accordance with the truth.
On Sunday, I do not remember the date any more, I went at approximately 16.00 hours, to the "Excelsior Casino" at the Holiday Inn Hotel to play "Texas Hold'm poker". (with this the suspect is talking about May 29th 2005). I went with my father named "Paul van der SLOOT" to the casino. I went to play "Texas Hold'm Poker" with my father. It is a poker game in which you get 7 cards and you have to make a card combination with your best (5) cards. You get 500 U.S. $ of fake money and with this money you play. I was done sooner than my father and I went and hung around in the casino. When it was half time of the game my father wanted to go home to go and babysit my ten year old brother. At my father's request I sat in for him and played "Texas Hold'm poker. I am not sure as to when half time was but I think it was between 19.00 and 20.00 hours. I kept on gambling until I lost too. This was according to me until 21.30 to 22.00 hours. I went to walk around in the casino and after that went to the "Blackjack" table to play blackjack. While I was sitting at the table the girl "Natalee" that is missing now to the blackjack table together with her friends. When the English speaking girls came to the blackjack table they introduced themselves. I do not remember the names of the girls anymore but they were from the same group of students that Natalee belonged to. According to me the friends of Natalee played blackjack but Natalee didn't. A girl that was sitting at my left side on the table asked me in English if I could help her play blackjack because she had lost U.S. $ 360,= of her father's money. The girl bet U.S. $ 20,= in the game and I helped her win U.S. $ 100,= with it. After the girl had won U.S. $ 100,= I advised her to call it quits but she wanted to continue. I told her again that she should stop and her friends also said that she should stop. Probably the girl after that went to cash in her chips for money. The girlfriends of the girl asked me if I was going to "Carlos & Charlies" that night. I told them that I couldn't do that because I had school tomorrow. The girls kept insisting that I should meet them at "Carlos & Charlies" because it was their last night on Aruba. After they kept insisting I agreed to meet with at "Carlos & Charlies". I don't know that name of the girl but I remember her from a photo in the newspaper on which Natalee was printed on the left side of her friends and the other girl was on the right side of the friends. This girl is the same girl that sat at my left side at the blackjack table. After this I told the girl that it was OK and that I would do my best to go to "Carlos & Charlies". After that the group of girls walked to the Sportsbar. In the Sportsbar I also saw to two acquaintances who were watching baseball. I greeted my two acquaintances and told them that I was doing fine too and that I would be going to "Carlos & Charlies" that night. My two acquaintances are named "Luis" and "Joshua". I regularly meet them at Carlos & Charlies. The last name of Luis is "BETANCOURT". I do not know the last name of Joshua. Luis BETANCOURT is a Venezuelan and according to me Joshua is Colombian but I don't know that for sure. After that I walked next to the group of girls and they said to me that I should not forget to go to Carlos & Charlies. I told that that I would do my best. The girl who stood printed on the right side in the newspaper told me that she was going to take a shower and that she would then go to Carlos & Charlies. I did not make an agreement with the girl as to how late I would meet them at Carlos & Charlies. After that I walked outside through the casino and when I got outside I called my father from my mobile phone which has the number "REMOVED" on the mobile phone of my mother. My mother has a mobile phone with the number "REMOVED". I called my father on that phone because my mother was outside of the country and my father had her phone in his possession. When I called my father it was approximately 23.00 hours. I told my father that I was ready and if he could come and pick me up at "Mc Donalds". After that I had called my friend "Jaime CARASQUILLA" on his mobile phone. I do not know his phone number from memory but I have programmed his mobile phone number in the memory of my mobile phone under the name "Beto". I asked Beto what he was doing and whether he wanted to accompany me in going to Carlos & Charlies. Beto answered me that he was doing nothing but that he could not accompany me to Carlos & Charlies because he had to go to work the next day. Beto works with a transport company but I do not know the name of that company. After that I called Deepak KALPOE and asked him what he was doing and if he wanted to come with me to Carlos & Charlies. Deepak told me he was closing up "Inex" and that he would accompany me to Carlos & Charlies because he didn't have to go to work the next day. Deepak told me that he would be going home first to take a bath and that after that he would come and pick me up at my place. Deepak's nickname is "Tupac". Deepak has a mobile phone with the number "REMOVED". I walked through the Hyatt parking lot where they have a Coca Cola vending machine and there I bought a can of coke. After that I walked to Mc Donalds and had bought a Mc Flurry there. At 23.00 hours my father came to pick me up at Mc Donalds. I am not sure about the time because I never wear a watch.
To your question as to where my mobile phone is, I answer that it is at home. My mobile phone is on my desk in my room.
To your question whether I have a girlfriend, I answer to you that I had a girlfriend. After this happened I told my girlfriend what had happened and she wasn't happy about it. My girlfriend's name is "Elaine" but I do not remember het last name now. I do not know the address where Elaine lives but I can point out her house to you. Elaine is Aruban and she studies at the Colegio Arubano Oranjestad. A few weeks ago she and her fellow students went to Venezuela. She now is in class V-4 on the Colegio Arubano and she is 17 years old. Elaine has a mobile phone, but her name is under the nickname "Fishy" in the memory of my mobile phone.
I have to say that I have another girlfriend now. Her name is "Florencia METZ". She just graduated from the Mavo and lives behind "Codemsa". Her friends and acquaintances call her "Flor". I do not know the number of her house but I can point it out to you. Flor has a mobile phone with the number "REMOVED". Flor is from Argentina and I talk dutch with her.
After my father came and picked me up at Mc Donalds we drove home. I took a shower. After that I had gotten dressed again and according to me at approximately 24.00 hours, Deepak and Satish came and picked me up at home. Before they came and picked me up I had called Deepak to ask where he has and he told me that he was on his way. At approximately 00.15 hours the three of us left for Carlos & Charlies. (with this Monday May 30th is meant; comment Jacobs). I have to say that I also called Flor and asked if she wanted to come to Carlos & Charlies. She answered that she wasn't allowed to go from her dad. Flor is 16 years old.
To your question as to what clothes I was wearing when I was picked up by Deepak and Satish, I can answer the following. I wore a white/blue shirt, a blue/white jeans trouser or a three-quart black trouser and a couple of white shoes or crème coloured boots. I do not remember now what underwear I was wearing. I do not remember how Deepak and Satish were dressed. I didn't tell my father that I was going to Carlos & Charlies with Deepak and Satish. I hadn't asked my father for permission because he would most likely refuse and usually I ask permission from my mother.
To your question with whom I regularly go to Carlos & Charlies, I answer you that I regularly go there with "Freddy ZEDAN" and "Jaime CARASQUIA". Freddy is a Venezuelan and Jaime is a Columbian. The boy named "Koen GOTENBOS" also regularly goes out with us. The names of my three friends are in the memory of my mobile phone. Freddy is under the name "Fefi" and Koen under the name "Cul".
After that we drove straight to Carlos & Charlies. Deepak was the driver but I cannot remember now who was sitting beside him. I do not remember now if it was Satish or me. I estimate that we arrived at Carlos & Charlies between 00.15 and 00.30 hours. Deepak parked his car on the parking lot behind Carlos & Charlies and after that we walked into the building of Carlos & Charlies. I don't have to pay because I have a VIP pass. With my VIP pass Deepak and Satish were also allowed in.
To your question as to who gave me the VIP pass to Carlos & Charlies, I answer you that I got it through the office of Carlos & Charlies. I do not remember with the help of who I got the VIP pass. I got to Carlos & Charlies about one to three times a week.
When we entered Carlos & Charlies I was greeted by the girl who is printed on the picture. When we got in I saw that Natalee was dancing on the stage/podium. I saw that Natalee wasn't holding a drink. The friend of Natalee said to me to go and dance with Natalee because she fancied me. I took her word for it that Natalee was interested in me. Natalee made hand gestures for me to come and dance with her. I also did not see Natalee with a purse/handbag. She did this about seven to eight times. After I had refused to dance with Natalee Deepak, Satish and myself walked to the bar. There we bought a "Yard Whisky Coke". Such a drink costs U.S. $ 12,-. It is a plastic cup and it comes in different colours. I payed for all three drinks. I got a red cup but I do not remember now what colour cups Deepak and Satish got. Then the three of us walked back to the stage/podium. While I stood there Natalee saw me again. When she saw me she got down from the stage/podium and walked over to me. She grabbed my hand and asked me if I would go to the bar with her. On the way there she said to me that I had to drink a Jellyshots (handwritten with an arrow pointing to this section of the statement, it says "or body shot") off of her. I at that moment in time did know what a Jellyshot was but I did not know that she went and laid down on the bar and that I had to drink the Jellyshot from her belly button.
When we arrived at the bar Natalee asked for a Jellyshot. Natalee then went and laid on top of the metal bar. The bartender handed me a small plastic container/cup in which was the Jellyshot that I placed on her belly button. After I had done that I sucked the Jellyshot from her belly button. Jellyshot is a jello with alcohol in it. I do not know what kind of alcohol is in it. When Natalee got onto the bar I thought that she was drunk. I could clearly tell that Natalee had been drinking. I could smell this from the smell that came out of Natalee's mouth. I also have to say that when I saw Natalee dancing I also noticed that she had been drinking. While I was talking to Natalee Satish stood beside me the entire time.
Then Natalee said that she also wanted to drink a Jellyshot but the bartender told me that that bar was closed. After that Natalee and me walked to another bar that was still open at that time. I asked the bartender two shots of Bacardi 151. I still had the whisky coke in my hand. Natalee asked me if she should drink the Bacardi 151 in one go. I answered her affirmatively and she answered me that she would do it in two. Natalee said to me that she needed a "chaser" in order to drink the Bacardi. Natalee drank my whisky coke as a "chaser" and then she drank the Bacardi 151 in two goes. I payed for the two shots of Bacardi 151. I do not know where Deepak stood at that moment but according to me Satish was still standing beside me. I did not ask for another kind of alcoholic beverage because I always drink Bacardi 151. Bacardi 151 is 151 proof and that means that it is 75.5% alcohol. I payed U.S. $ 20,- for the two shots of Bacardi 151.
After that Natalee, Satish and myself walked outside because Carlos & Charlies was almost empty. Outside I met an American tourist and he asked me if he could get my cup for free. I threw out the little cola that was still left in the cup and then I gave it to the tourist. Natalee took me by the hand and said that she wanted to go home with me. I had told her that I would take her home with me but I knew that that would be impossible because my dad and my brothers were home. Satish, Natalee and myself walked together when she asked me if she could come home with me. After I told Natalee that she was allowed to go home with me she told her friends that she would meet up later with them at the Holiday Inn Hotel. At approximately 01.15 hours, we walked from Carlos & Charlies to the outside.
To your question whether I called someone from my mobile phone when we were standing outside "Carlos & Charlies, I answer that I did not. At that moment I had not called anyone with my mobile phone.
To your question whether I know what Deepak and Satish did with their cups, I answer you that I do not know that.
Then Satish, Natalee and myself walked to Deepak's car. Natalee and I walked hand in hand. When we arrived at the car Deepak was already waiting for us. We got into the car and before Deepak drove off I told Deepak and Satish that Natalee wanted to go to my house but that I could not take her there because my father and brothers were home. After I told Deepak and Satish this they said it was OK. Then I told the girl that I could not take her to my house but that I could come to her hotel room. She answered me that she did not want to go to her hotel room and that she wanted to go to the North coast to watch the sharks.
To your question as to what Natalee meant by wanting to go to my house, I answer you the following. With this Natalee according to me meant that she wanted to have fleshly intercourse with me. I could see from her body language that she wanted to have fleshly intercourse me. I do not know if Natalee had used narcotics.
To your question as to who was driving the car and where we were sitting, I answer you the following. Deepak was driving the car, Satish was sitting next to him on the passenger seat. I was sitting on the backseat behind Deepak and Natalee was sitting behind Satish. The volume of the radio was at the normal volume and the windows of the car were open. With normal volume I mean that we four in the car were able to talk to each other and hear each other. When we were sitting in the car Natalee did not speak with Deepak and Satish. Without asking me who Deepak and Satish were Natalee got into the car with them. I did tell Natalee that Deepak and Satish were my friends. I have to say that Natalee asked me if Deepak and Satish were rich people, because she was impressed by their car. We drove off the parking lot and Natalee saw that her friends and girlfriends were standing between Royal Plaza Mall and the bus stop. We couldn't turn left so Deepak had to drive another around the front of Carlos & Charlies again. After that Deepak was able to turn left and Deepak stopped his car on the public road between Royal Mall Plaza and the bus stop. When we were driving passed Natalee's friends she shouted out of the back window something like "Aruba". I did not hear what Natalee yelled at her friends. At that moment Natalee was very happy. I thought Natalee was attractive. I felt Natalee wanted to party on with me. Natalee held my hand in the car. After Natalee had yelled/shouted to the group a young man came up to the car. The young man shouted at Natalee to get out of the car. Natalee answered that she did not want to get out of the car. The young man for the second time said to Natalee to get out the car. Natalee refused again to get out of the car and said that she was going to stay with us. After this the young man didn't say anything anymore to Natalee. Without me saying anyting to Deepak, he started pulling away.
After this we drove past the front of "Karma" and then north of the Reinnassance Hotel. There Deepak turned right and then right again into the direction of the hotels. We drove south of Royal Plaza Mall but I did not see Natalee's friends anymore. In the car Natalee told me that she was from "Alabama" and that her family was rich. She asked me if I was rich too. I answered her that I wasn't rich but that I wasn't poor either, I told her that my father was a judge and that my mother was a teacher teaching at the same school I was on. When Natalee was talking to me she was sitting with one leg into my direction. Natalee had her hand placed against her leg because I could look between her legs. Natalee wore a skirt and I suspect that she did not want us to look between her legs.
I told Deepak to drive to the Lighthouse because Natalee had said to me that she wanted to see sharks. I had told Natalee that there were no sharks but she insisted that she had seen sharks already. At no point had Natalee said to me that she wanted to go to the North Coast. With Deepak's car one cannot drive to the North Coast because his car is too low.
To your question why I got the idea to drive to the Lighthouse, I answer you that I did this because Natalee commented that she wanted to go see sharks. She also commented that we could give a a sightseeing tour.
When we drove south of Certified Supermarkt and Kong Hing Natalee had let go of my hand and had put her hand on my right leg and rubbed. When we arrived at the stoplights and before we drove in front of Benihana/Hooters Natalee grabbed me by the chin and we started kissing each other. The kissed for some time. We kissed until we got in the vicinity of Mc Donalds. I stopped kissing to look where we were and it is possible that I asked Deepak and Satish is we were driving to the Lighthouse. Deepak and Satish answered me that we were. During the drive a white rental car drove alongside us for about five to six seconds and Deepak wondered what was up with these men. The V-car turned into the direction of the Holiday Inn and we kept driving straight on. Driving past the front of the Marriot Hotel Natalee half fell asleep/half dozed off. After that she startled awake* and I asked her if she was OK. To this she answered that everything was fine. After that we started kissing again. I kissed her first. After that Natalee placed her hands on the top of my legs and moved...
*comment of the translator, With startled awake I mean that if a person falls halfway asleep/starts to doze off and suddenly jolts his/her head up again and waking up, that is what I mean with "startled awake", the sudden waking up from falling asleep/dozing off.
...her hand into the direction of my penis. I placed my left hand at that moment in time between the inside of her leg. I started stroking her breasts with my right hand. Natalee was wearing a bra. I did not put my hand into her bra. Natalee had normal size breasts. Beyond the Marriot Hotel and into the direction of Tierra del Sol I had fingered Natalee. With my fingers I pushed Natalee's panty to the side and fingered her with two fingers. According to me she was shaved because I did not feel any hair. I first stuck my middle finger inside and then I put my index finger inside. While I was doing this Natalee and I kept kissing. I fingered Natalee for about one to two minutes and then pulled my hand out of her panty and placed my hand on her hip. I stopped fingering Natalee because I found it improper/not nice towards Deepak and Satish. I started kissing her again and after that Natalee asked me if Deepak and Satish were my slaves. I answered her that they weren't my slaves. Natalee then said that her parents had a plantation and that to her black people were slaves.
To your question as to what panty Natalee was wearing, I answer you the following. Natalee wore a dark blue panty. According to me they were embroidered panties and according to me these were flowers.
To your question as to what Deepak and Satish were doing while I was fingering Natalee, I answer to you that they did nothing. I wasn't watching Deepak and Satish while I was fingering Natalee. When I was fingering Natalee in the car the volume of the music was not loud. Natalee could hear me when I was talking to her in the car.
To your question whether Deepak, Satish of myself called anyone on the way to the Lighthouse, I answer you that we did not. It is possible that I did receive a message from Flor.
While we were driving in the direction of the Lighthouse and were close to the dunes, Natalee fell half asleep/dozed off again. When she startled awake again she asked me where we were and I answered her that we were at the Lighthouse. Natalee then said to me that we should take her to the Holiday Inn Hotel because she had to travel the next day. We drove up to the lighthouse and then we took the same road down again towards the Holiday Inn. While we were driving in the direction/towards the hotel, she dozed off several times/fell half asleep several times and we didn't kiss anymore.
We drove back to the Holiday Inn Hotel to drop Natalee off there. When we arrived there Deepak parked on the left lane and not on the right lane that lies in front of the Lobby. Natalee got out the back door on the right side and she fell to the floor. I got out of the same car door and helped her get up. After I did that Natalee said to me not to touch her and she walked into the direction/towards the lobby. I saw that she touched a pillar. We did not kiss and I got back into the car. Then we drove home. Later, when we just found out she had gone missing Deepak and Satish told me that they had seen a guard dressed in black when we were driving off. According to them the guard also had a walkie talkie in his hands. Deepak and Satish said that the guard walked towards/in the direction of Natalee. (with Natalee is meant the missing woman named "Natalee Ann HOLLOWAY"; comment Jacobs).
I have to say that while we were driving past the front of the container harbour, Natalee told me that her mother was the sister of "Hitler". I laughed and did not ask her what she meant by that. She had said this to me about five times.
To your question as to what route Deepak took to drop me off home, I answer you the following. After Deepak left the hotel grounds he took a left and then kept driving until we got to the stoplights of Mc. Donalds. There he turned left again and he drove into the direction of the police station in Noord and then he turned right until he got to the new stadium and there he turned left and brought me home.
You are informing me that when I was first interviewed as a witness that I told the detective that Natalee and me got out of the car close to/near Fisherman's Hut and walked in the sea.
To your question as to what I can state about that, I answer you that I did not say that. It also isn't in my witness statement.
If you have more questions, I am willing to answer them.
This is my statement that is truthful/this is my statement that I have truthfully given.
J.A.P. van der SLOOT
After suspect J.A.P. van der SLOOT had read through the statement he gave, he stated that he would persist in it/stick with it and signed it.
Of this we, the reporting officers, on our oath as officer have made this proces-verbaal, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 9th 2005.
The reporting officers
D.D. JACOBS L.A.G.
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Joran Van der Sloot, June 10, 2005
PROCES VERBAAL (second interview witt Joran van der Sloot)
We, Dennis Dominico Jacobs and Luigi Angelo Giovanni Croes, head-officer and officer first class with the Korps Politie Aruba, first mentioned is attached to the Robbery Project Team (Atraco Team) and the latter with the section Often Occurring Crimes District 2, declare following.
On June 10th 2005, at approximately 14.30 hours, we, the reporting officers, interviewed the suspect J.A.P. van der SLOOT for further information.
His statement that he made in dutch was transcribed by me, Jacobs, and goes as follows.
Before we, the reporting officers, started with the interview, I, Jacobs, informed the suspect that he was not obliged to make a statement. I also informed him that this interview was being taped.
"Although I have been informed by you that I am not obliged to answer any questions, I am prepared to make a truthful statement.
To your question since when the brothers Deepak and Satish are friends with me, I answer to you the following. About two or three months ago I got acquainted with Deepak and Satish KALPOE. Through a friend of mine named "Koen GOTTENBOS" I got acquainted with Deepak and Satish. I have known Koen for more than ten (10) years. Koen's nickname is "Cul". Another friend named "Jaime CARRASQUILLO" nicknamed "Betto" had given Koen that nickname.
To your question as to where I met Deepak and Satish, my answer to you is that if I am not mistaken I met them their workplace.
To your question whether I went out with Deepak and Satish, my answer to you is that I did not go out with them immediately when I met them. After that Deepak, Satish and myself went out once a week. We usually went to "Carlos & Charlies", "Tantra" and "Bahia". We usually went to these places to dance and to drink. Sometimes "Freddy" and "Koen" went with us to those nite-clubs. When we went out we drove in Deepak's car. Deepak and Satish were the ones that drove Deepak's car. Sometimes we also went with "Jaime CARRASQUILLO" nicknamed "Betto". Betto also drives a Honda.
To your question as to what kind of car Deepak has, I answer you the following. Deepak has a silver, four door car of the make Honda Civic. The windows of the car are not tinted. Betto drives a green coloured four door car of the make Honda Civic.
To your question as to how Deepak's car looked when Deepak, Satish and myself went out on May 29th 2005, I answer you that the car looked clean. Deepak's car is always clean. Deepak and Satish clean that car all the time. On the Friday night before they go out they clean the car. Deepak is the owner of the car. I have never helped to clean their car. Deepak and Satish drive with the car and they clean it themselves.
To your question as to when Deepak bought his car and from whom he had bought it, I answer you that I do not know this. I haven't known Deepak and Satish long enough to know this.
To your question as to whether Deepak's car isn't too cramped for me to sit in, I answer you that is it. If Deepak, Satish and myself go out I usually sit next to the driver on the front seat because my legs are long.
To your question as to whether on May 30th in the nightly hours, I found it too cramped on the backseat to finger the missing girl "Natalee Ann HOLLOWAY", I answer you that Deepak and Satish put forward their seats because they are not tall. With the seats moved forward I get more room to sit properly. I myself am 1.96 meters tall.
To your question how much alcoholic beverages I can drink before I get drunk, I answer you the following. I can handle my alcohol. Since my 15th year I have been drinking alcohol. I am a social drinker. I think that before I start feeling tipsy I have to drink a crate of beer. I cannot answer you how many rum and whisky's I have to drink before I get drunk. If I drink normal glasses of alcoholic beverages I would have to drink twenty (20) to thirty (30) glasses before I get drunk. If I get drunk I feel tired and want to sleep. I do not get irritated when I get drunk.
To your question as to how much alcoholic drinks Deepak and Satish must drink before they get drunk, I answer you the following. I have seen that after drinking five (5) glasses of whisky coke Deepak and Satish got tipsy. After ten (10) glasses of whisky coke they are pretty much drunk. I have seen Deepak drunk twice (2). Both times this was at "Carlos & Charlies". If Deepak gets drunk he becomes aggressive and irritated. Sometimes Deepak wants to go home and sometimes he wants to fight. Deepak once in front of "Carlos & Charlies". I am sure that this was the only time he wanted to fight with others. Deepak cannot fight. He gets aggressive but he cannot fight. When Deepak in front of Carlos & Charlies wanted to fight with the man in front of Carlos & Charlies wanted to fight.
If Deepak drinks he gets quickly irritated.
To your question whether I saw Deepak fight, I answer you the following. I have seen him box at home in my place. I have two pairs of boxing gloves at home and I have seen Deepak box with Satish and Koen. Deepak is to weak to box. Satish wins at boxing with Deepak and Koen beats both Deepak and Satish at boxing. I box with Betto and with Koen. Usually we are equally matched between the three of us. Sometimes I let/allow my girlfriend "Flor" and her sister Amanda Metz to box. An Aruban girl named "Jilaila" lives with Flor and Amanda and she watched some of those fights.
To your question whether I have a friend who has a boat, I answer you that the father of Koen has a boat. The father of Koen has a speedboat. I do not know the name of this boat but it is at Koen's house. I have never gone out on the speedboat owned by Koen's father. I get seasick and that is why I don't often go on boats. Koen has no boat-permit/license but I assume he is able to drive the boat.
To your question as to how many girlfriends I have, I answer you the following. I only have one girlfriend and her name is "Florencia METZ". Before I had "Elaine" and before that "Carmen JACAPOUCHI" And she works in the Hospital and at the moment if Freddy's girlfriend. I have been having girlfriends since I was 14 and her name was "Jillian JOHNSON" and she now lives in the States. Her father had built the "Marriot Hotel" and she and I were both enrolled at the "International school". I also had a girlfriend named "Melody GRANADILLO". I have had five (5) serious girlfriends in total since I was 14.
To you question whether Deepak and Satish have girlfriends, I answer you that they haven't got girlfriends. Satish told me that he had a girlfriend in Surinam. I have thought about them not having girlfriends but not everybody has a need to have a girlfriend.
To your question has to how many years Deepak and Satish have been living on Aruba, I answer you that Deepak has been living on Aruba for five (5) years and Satish three (3) years.
To you question as to why Deepak and Satish don't pick up girls with their nice car, I answer you that I do not know why. You have to ask them. I have never seen Deepak or Satish in the company of a girl. I have never seen Deepak dance but I once saw Satish dance with "Carmen JACCOPUCHI".
To you question as to whether I am under treatment from a doctor, I answer you that I am not. I am being treated by a dentist because I have toothache. I am also under treatment of a psychologist. This because I felt bad about the fact that the girl had gone missing. Before the girl went missing I was also under treatment of a psychologist. This was because I had taken 50 euro's from my dad and also took money from my mother and I used my brothers mobile phone without asking for permission and after that I had broken the chip from his mobile phone. I also once fought with my brother in Miami but we are good friends now. My brother is fifteen (15) years old and his name is "Valentijn". He is the one I would like to talk to.
To your question as how I get along/the contact is with my brothers and parents, I answer you that I have a good contact with them. Usually I discuss the time I have to get home with my mother because she is the one who decides this and I always want to come home later than she says.
To your question whether I had contacts the day before I got arrested by the police, I answer you that I did. A day before Deepak, Satish and myself were arrested by you they both were at my house. We had been on internet and we went on the website www.rhealworld.com on which my picture stood. We closed down my e-mail address REMOVED@hotmail.com and closed down a tickle account. My tickle is www.tickle.com. My username on the tickle account also was loverboy362. This is an account where you can leave pictures and you can meet with other people. I then opened another e-mail account and sent an e-mail to rhealworld with the request to respect my privacy and remove my picture from their website. The man e-mailed me back and wrote that he would respect my privacy and would remove my picture. My new e-mail address is REMOVED@hotmail.com. My e-mail adress that I use to talk to my friends is REMOVED@hotmail.com
I you have further questions, I am willing to answer them.
This is my statement that I made truthfully.
J.A.P. van der SLOOT
After the suspect J.A.P. van der SLOOT had read his statement, he said that he would persist in his statement and signed it.
Of this, we the reporting officers, on our oath as officers have made this proces-verbaal, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 10th 2005.
The reporting officers
D.D. JACOBS L.A.G. CROES
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PROCES VERBAAL (second interview witt Joran van der Sloot)
We, Dennis Dominico Jacobs and Luigi Angelo Giovanni Croes, head-officer and officer first class with the Korps Politie Aruba, first mentioned is attached to the Robbery Project Team (Atraco Team) and the latter with the section Often Occurring Crimes District 2, declare following.
On June 10th 2005, at approximately 14.30 hours, we, the reporting officers, interviewed the suspect J.A.P. van der SLOOT for further information.
His statement that he made in dutch was transcribed by me, Jacobs, and goes as follows.
Before we, the reporting officers, started with the interview, I, Jacobs, informed the suspect that he was not obliged to make a statement. I also informed him that this interview was being taped.
"Although I have been informed by you that I am not obliged to answer any questions, I am prepared to make a truthful statement.
To your question since when the brothers Deepak and Satish are friends with me, I answer to you the following. About two or three months ago I got acquainted with Deepak and Satish KALPOE. Through a friend of mine named "Koen GOTTENBOS" I got acquainted with Deepak and Satish. I have known Koen for more than ten (10) years. Koen's nickname is "Cul". Another friend named "Jaime CARRASQUILLO" nicknamed "Betto" had given Koen that nickname.
To your question as to where I met Deepak and Satish, my answer to you is that if I am not mistaken I met them their workplace.
To your question whether I went out with Deepak and Satish, my answer to you is that I did not go out with them immediately when I met them. After that Deepak, Satish and myself went out once a week. We usually went to "Carlos & Charlies", "Tantra" and "Bahia". We usually went to these places to dance and to drink. Sometimes "Freddy" and "Koen" went with us to those nite-clubs. When we went out we drove in Deepak's car. Deepak and Satish were the ones that drove Deepak's car. Sometimes we also went with "Jaime CARRASQUILLO" nicknamed "Betto". Betto also drives a Honda.
To your question as to what kind of car Deepak has, I answer you the following. Deepak has a silver, four door car of the make Honda Civic. The windows of the car are not tinted. Betto drives a green coloured four door car of the make Honda Civic.
To your question as to how Deepak's car looked when Deepak, Satish and myself went out on May 29th 2005, I answer you that the car looked clean. Deepak's car is always clean. Deepak and Satish clean that car all the time. On the Friday night before they go out they clean the car. Deepak is the owner of the car. I have never helped to clean their car. Deepak and Satish drive with the car and they clean it themselves.
To your question as to when Deepak bought his car and from whom he had bought it, I answer you that I do not know this. I haven't known Deepak and Satish long enough to know this.
To your question as to whether Deepak's car isn't too cramped for me to sit in, I answer you that is it. If Deepak, Satish and myself go out I usually sit next to the driver on the front seat because my legs are long.
To your question as to whether on May 30th in the nightly hours, I found it too cramped on the backseat to finger the missing girl "Natalee Ann HOLLOWAY", I answer you that Deepak and Satish put forward their seats because they are not tall. With the seats moved forward I get more room to sit properly. I myself am 1.96 meters tall.
To your question how much alcoholic beverages I can drink before I get drunk, I answer you the following. I can handle my alcohol. Since my 15th year I have been drinking alcohol. I am a social drinker. I think that before I start feeling tipsy I have to drink a crate of beer. I cannot answer you how many rum and whisky's I have to drink before I get drunk. If I drink normal glasses of alcoholic beverages I would have to drink twenty (20) to thirty (30) glasses before I get drunk. If I get drunk I feel tired and want to sleep. I do not get irritated when I get drunk.
To your question as to how much alcoholic drinks Deepak and Satish must drink before they get drunk, I answer you the following. I have seen that after drinking five (5) glasses of whisky coke Deepak and Satish got tipsy. After ten (10) glasses of whisky coke they are pretty much drunk. I have seen Deepak drunk twice (2). Both times this was at "Carlos & Charlies". If Deepak gets drunk he becomes aggressive and irritated. Sometimes Deepak wants to go home and sometimes he wants to fight. Deepak once in front of "Carlos & Charlies". I am sure that this was the only time he wanted to fight with others. Deepak cannot fight. He gets aggressive but he cannot fight. When Deepak in front of Carlos & Charlies wanted to fight with the man in front of Carlos & Charlies wanted to fight.
If Deepak drinks he gets quickly irritated.
To your question whether I saw Deepak fight, I answer you the following. I have seen him box at home in my place. I have two pairs of boxing gloves at home and I have seen Deepak box with Satish and Koen. Deepak is to weak to box. Satish wins at boxing with Deepak and Koen beats both Deepak and Satish at boxing. I box with Betto and with Koen. Usually we are equally matched between the three of us. Sometimes I let/allow my girlfriend "Flor" and her sister Amanda Metz to box. An Aruban girl named "Jilaila" lives with Flor and Amanda and she watched some of those fights.
To your question whether I have a friend who has a boat, I answer you that the father of Koen has a boat. The father of Koen has a speedboat. I do not know the name of this boat but it is at Koen's house. I have never gone out on the speedboat owned by Koen's father. I get seasick and that is why I don't often go on boats. Koen has no boat-permit/license but I assume he is able to drive the boat.
To your question as to how many girlfriends I have, I answer you the following. I only have one girlfriend and her name is "Florencia METZ". Before I had "Elaine" and before that "Carmen JACAPOUCHI" And she works in the Hospital and at the moment if Freddy's girlfriend. I have been having girlfriends since I was 14 and her name was "Jillian JOHNSON" and she now lives in the States. Her father had built the "Marriot Hotel" and she and I were both enrolled at the "International school". I also had a girlfriend named "Melody GRANADILLO". I have had five (5) serious girlfriends in total since I was 14.
To you question whether Deepak and Satish have girlfriends, I answer you that they haven't got girlfriends. Satish told me that he had a girlfriend in Surinam. I have thought about them not having girlfriends but not everybody has a need to have a girlfriend.
To your question has to how many years Deepak and Satish have been living on Aruba, I answer you that Deepak has been living on Aruba for five (5) years and Satish three (3) years.
To you question as to why Deepak and Satish don't pick up girls with their nice car, I answer you that I do not know why. You have to ask them. I have never seen Deepak or Satish in the company of a girl. I have never seen Deepak dance but I once saw Satish dance with "Carmen JACCOPUCHI".
To you question as to whether I am under treatment from a doctor, I answer you that I am not. I am being treated by a dentist because I have toothache. I am also under treatment of a psychologist. This because I felt bad about the fact that the girl had gone missing. Before the girl went missing I was also under treatment of a psychologist. This was because I had taken 50 euro's from my dad and also took money from my mother and I used my brothers mobile phone without asking for permission and after that I had broken the chip from his mobile phone. I also once fought with my brother in Miami but we are good friends now. My brother is fifteen (15) years old and his name is "Valentijn". He is the one I would like to talk to.
To your question as how I get along/the contact is with my brothers and parents, I answer you that I have a good contact with them. Usually I discuss the time I have to get home with my mother because she is the one who decides this and I always want to come home later than she says.
To your question whether I had contacts the day before I got arrested by the police, I answer you that I did. A day before Deepak, Satish and myself were arrested by you they both were at my house. We had been on internet and we went on the website www.rhealworld.com on which my picture stood. We closed down my e-mail address REMOVED@hotmail.com and closed down a tickle account. My tickle is www.tickle.com. My username on the tickle account also was loverboy362. This is an account where you can leave pictures and you can meet with other people. I then opened another e-mail account and sent an e-mail to rhealworld with the request to respect my privacy and remove my picture from their website. The man e-mailed me back and wrote that he would respect my privacy and would remove my picture. My new e-mail address is REMOVED@hotmail.com. My e-mail adress that I use to talk to my friends is REMOVED@hotmail.com
I you have further questions, I am willing to answer them.
This is my statement that I made truthfully.
J.A.P. van der SLOOT
After the suspect J.A.P. van der SLOOT had read his statement, he said that he would persist in his statement and signed it.
Of this, we the reporting officers, on our oath as officers have made this proces-verbaal, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 10th 2005.
The reporting officers
D.D. JACOBS L.A.G. CROES
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Joran Van der Sloot, June 14, 2005
PROCES-VERBAAL (sixth statement of suspect)
We, Dennis Domenico JACOBS and Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES, head officer and officer first class of the Aruban Police Force, first mentioned attached to the Robbery Project Team (Atraco Team) and last mentioned attached to the section often occurring crime District 2, state the following.
On June 14th, at approximately 10.00 hours, we the reporting officers, interviewed the suspect Joran Andreas Petrus van der SLOOT born in Arnhem, the Netherlands on August 6th 1987, without occupation student (International School of Aruba) and living Montanja 19 in Aruba, for further information.
His statement was made in dutch and was transcribed by me, CROES and goes as follows,
Before we, the reporting officers, started the interview, I , CROES, notified the suspect that he was not obliged to make a statement. I also informed him that this statement was being recorded on tape.
You have just old me that you wanted to ask me about times. I can state the following.
When we, on May 30th, stopped in Deepak's car in front of my house, it was about 01.40 am. At that moment in time Deepak, Satish, Natalee and myself were in Deepak's car.
When Natalee and myself were dropped off at the Marriot Hotel by Satish and Deepak it was approximately 01.50 am. After we were dropped off Natalee and myself walked to the beach in front of the Marriot Hotel. While we were walking I noticed there was sand in my shoes. I took off my shoes and my socks. I had placed my socks in my shoes and walked with my shoes in my hand further on the beach. Natalee and myself stood for a short while at the waters edge and kissed. At that moment in time Natalee told me that she liked Aruba. She also said to me that she wanted to see sharks. I told her that there were no sharks around Aruba. She kept on asking me where she was from. I had told her that I didn't know. Natalee asked me this about five or six times. Natalee also told me that she was really good at French kissing and that she wanted to stay alone with me and French kiss. Natalee then told me again that her mother was the sister of "Hitler". Then Natalee and myself started walking in the direction of the Holiday Inn Hotel. On the way there Natalee told me that she didn't want to go to the hotel but wanted to go into the other direction. So we turned around and walked into the other direction, meaning in a northerly direction. A little further along we sat down on the beach. It was close to the waters edge in front of the Marriot Hotel. There I had placed my shoes on the sand. We started French kissing and talking there. At some moment in time Natalee had told me that she wanted to go into another direction. We stayed about five (5) minutes on the beach in front of the Marriot Hotel. Then we stood up hand in hand.
After that we walked in the direction of Fisherman's Huts/ On the way there I told Natalee that the stars were beautiful. Natalee told me that there were no stars. I was walking on the side of the waters edge. We once French kissed with each other but that wasn't easy. It wasn't easy because we were walking. Natalee had asked me how far we were from the North Coast. I told Natalee that we weren't going to walk to the North Coast because it was too far away. I estimate that it took approximately about 4 to 5 minutes to walk from the Marriot to Fisherman's Huts.
When Natalee and myself arrived at the first building of Fisherman's Huts Natalee told me that we should go and sit on the beach. We sat down on the beach next to each other and then we had went on each other. We had dry sex with each other. I was lying on the sand she she was sitting on me and pretended like we were having sex. I had told Natalee that I didn't have any condoms on me. Natalee than said to me that it was better if we had no sex with each other. After that Natalee put her hand down my pants and masturbated me. I had then opened my trousers so that my penis could come out to make it easier. While Natalee was masturbating me she told me to tell her before I came so that I wouldn't come on her because she didn't want that to happen. Before I came I told her so. When I came, I came into my own hands. I stood up and washed my hands in the sea. I then walked back to Natalee and we continued to French kiss. I started feeling up her breasts and continued to finger her with two (2) fingers. I estimate that I fingered Natalee for about fifteen (15) minutes. At some point I thought I had been fingering her for long enough. I had stopped doing it and told Natalee that it was better to go back to her hotel. I also told her that I had to go to school in the morning hours. I had told Natalee to walk with me back to her hotel. Natalee answered me that she didn't want to go back to her hotel.
I had told her again that I had to go home. Natalee answered me that she wanted to stay there on the beach. After that I told her that I would walk to her hotel. I did this thinking that she would agree to that and that she would walk there with me to her hotel. Natalee then told me again that she did not want to go back to her hotel. Then I had enough of it that she didn't want to listen to me. I had lifted her up and started walking back to the hotel with her. Natalee told me to put her down. I did put her down. I thought to myself that's it and I called Deepak.
I had called Deepak, on May 30th 2005 at approximately 03.00 am, on his mobile phone. It was May 30th 2005. I had asked Deepak how he was doing. He had told me that he was "on-line" and that he was chatting to people. I had told Deepak that the girl wouldn't listen and that she was sleeping on the beach. I asked Deepak if he would come and pick me up. Deepak further told me that he would come immediately to come and pick me up. The conversation lasted about 2 to 3 minutes. I had walked back to Natalee. She was still sleeping. I laid down next to her. At about 03.30 am Deepak came to Fisherman's Huts to pick me up. When I was sitting in the car I told Deepak that the girl was laying on the beach and that she was being annoying/irritating because she didn't want to go back to her hotel. Deepak asked me if I fucked her. I answered Deepak that I didn't because I didn't have a condom on me. Deepak also asked me what I was going to do with her. I had said to Deepak that she didn't want to go back to her hotel. I even told her that I lifted her up but that she didn't want me to bring her back to her hotel. Then Deepak said to me "don't fuck with that bitch" * that they will find her tomorrow on the beach. Then Deepak and me drove off towards home. What I can remark is that when we drove home the "Snack Truck" at "Fermins Bar" wasn't there. In the car I had....
* this is a literal translation but not the best translation. The best phrase to translate this is: "Don't bother about the bitch" or "F*** the bitch, let's go".
told Deepak that I left my shoes at the Marriot Hotel. Deepak told me not to worry that he would go back the next day and pick them up for me. I had left a pair of white and blue shoes of the make "K-Swiss", size "14" on the beach. These shoes I bought in the USA.
What I also can state is that during the drive Deepak told me that he had the next day off and that he didn't need to go to work. I had told Deepak that I did have school and that I was tired.
I was dropped off at my house by Deepak on May 30th 2005 at approximately 03.45. When I was getting out I asked him if he would go "on-line" again. Deepak answered me that he would. I also told him that I would call him tomorrow. I had asked Deepak if he could pick up the shoes I left behind at the beach. Deepak told me that he would immediately go and get them. Then Deepak drove off.
To you question as to whether I had called someone or sent messages or received messages while I was with Natalee on the beach, I can state the following. I did not call anyone else but Deepak to come and pick me up. No-one called me. I had not sent or received messages on my mobile phone.
When I got home I took a shower. After showering I had turned on my TV and airco. I had installed my Multi-Media that I was going to take to school the next day. I had also gone into the living room to look for something to drink. I had turned on my computer. I had signed in to "MSN-MESSENGER". None of the people I regularly chat with were "on-line". It is possible I sent Deepak a message to come "on-line". I say this because Deepak told me during the confrontation
that I sent him a message. But I am not sure about that. I went to sleep after that.
On May 30th 2005, at approximately 03.45 am I went to sleep. At approximately 06.30, I woke up. Between 03.45 am and 06.30 am I talked to no-one on my mobile phone. At approximately 06.45 am I got on the bus. Between 06.30 am and 06.45 am I did not talk to anyone on my mobile phone. At approximately 08.00 am, I arrived at school on the bus. I had slept the entire time the bus took to get to school. During the ride to school I don't think I called anyone with my mobile phone. I do think that I had received a message from "Flor". I did not loan my phone out to anyone to make a phone call. I am sure of that. My school starts at 08.00 am and ends at 14.45 pm. During the hours between 08.00 am and 14.45 pm I do not think I called anybody. If I sent someone messages between 08.00 am and 14.45 pm than it could only have been to "Elaine" or "Flor" and nobody else.
On Monday, May 30th 2005, I did not talk to anyone at school about having left behind Natalee. Approximately 14.45 pm, I got back onto the school bus to be driven home. I arrived at home at approximately 16.00 pm. It is possible that I called someone or that someone called me. It is also possible that I sent or received messages. I am sure Satish didn't and Deepak it is possible. If I had talked to Deepak then I would have asked him what he had been doing that day or what he was going to do.
At approximately 17.00 pm, I was dropped off by my father at the Raquet Club. Between the hours of 16.00 pm and 17.00 pm, I had done my homework and also "chatted". I do not remember with who I chatted. It could be possible that I chatted to Deepak because he does that a lot from where he works. I am not sure about that.
Between the hours of 17.00 pm and 18.00 pm I was in the gym. I was talking there with "Koen" nickname "Cul". We spoke that it was cowardly/weak and that no one was there.
My tennis lesson was between the hours of 18.00 pm and 19.00 pm. According to me I was not called by anyone during that time. I had also made no calls myself. Approximately 19.00 pm, I was ready with playing tennis. I showered in the clubhouse. After I had finised showering I got dressed. I do not remember what I put on that day. I was wearing a short trousers and a T-shirt. It looked pretty nice/proper. I also wore slippers. Then I called "Andre". I do not remember his phone number. Andre lives near the Marriot Hotel. We had agreed that we would meet at the Wyndham Hotel at approximately 20.00 pm to play poker. I had then also called Guido. Guido had told me that he had to go to work. He would come later and try to enter the tournament for half time. I had also called my father and asked if I could play poker at the Wyndham Casino. My father gave me permission.
At approximately 19.15 pm I left on foot for the Wyndham Hotel. I was alone. My tennis gear I had left behind the bar at the Raquet club. I had also removed my tennis shoes and left them in the bag behind. I had taken from my tennis bag a pair of slippers and walked away on those. From the clubhouse I walked in the direction of Salinja to the Marriot Hotel. I walked along the same route that Deepak had taken to drop off me and Natalee. At the beach of the Marriot I tried for a little while to
find my shoes. They were nowhere to be found. I looked for about two minutes. Then I walked over the beach to the Wyndham Hotel. On the way there I saw a lot of people. I did not go to Fisherman's Hut to see if Natalee was still lying there. I at that moment was more worried about the shoes that I had left behind because I was unaware that Natalee had gone missing. At approximately 19.45 pm I arrived at the Aruba Grant Hotel & Casino. I know the time because I was watching at he big watch of the Wyndham Hotel. Via the pool I walked to the casino. I had gone there because I had U.S. 20,- on me. I played at the U.S. 5,- minimum black jack table. I wanted to play there so I could win some money so I that, after the tournament, I could play cash games with Guido. I played for about 15 minutes. At the end of the game I had U.S. 20,- again. In the casino I spoke with a woman that works there. She knows my face and had told me that she had watched me play poker and that she thought I played well/good. She had then told me that it was 20.00 pm. I immediately walked to the Wyndham Hotel & Casino. At the Wyndham Hotel I walked in through the beach entrance and walked to the casino. In the casino I walked directly to the man called "Elvis". Elvis had U.S. 10,- for me. A week earlier I had lent him U.S. 10,-. I had gotten my U.S. 10,- from Elvis and went to register. The fee for registering was U.S. 10,-. I met Andre and his dad at the Casino. Andre and myself stayed inside the casino and walked around until the tournament started. The tournament started at 20.15 pm. I was at a table with ten (10) people. At the beginning of the game everyone had to give their registration receipt to the "Dealer". Thirty (30) minutes later I had lost. I then went to play black jack for about 15 minutes. I had won U.S. 30,-. With the U.S. 30,-
I went back to the poker game to play again. The second time I played poker I was in the game for about 1 hour. After an hour I had gone out. I stayed and waited for Andre because he was also losing. In the meantime I had called Guido. Guido had told me that he was nearly finished. At approximately 22.30, Guido arrived at the Wyndham Casino. Guido and myself went for a circular walk. After that Guido and myself walked to his car. His car was in the parking lot of the Wyndham Hotel. After that we drove to the Aruba Grant so that I could cash in my chips at the cashier. These were the chips that I had won earlier. Because it had turned eight o'clock earlier I had been unable to cash my chips then. Guido and myself played black jack in the Aruba Grant Casino for about 45 minutes. At the Aruba Grant I had won approximately U.S. 50,-. After that, at approximately 23.15 pm Guido and I arrived at the Radison Casino. I went to play poker. I was busy playing poker when I was called by Andre. He asked me where I was. I had told him that I was at the Radison Hotel. He told me he would come by there. Deepak had also asked me where I was. I told him that I was at the Radison Casino. Deepak told me that he would be there as soon as possible. At approximately 01.00 am Deepak came over to me. Andre was there too. I was on a roll. I played for about another hour. At approximately 02.00 am I stopped playing. I had "cashed out" my chips. Deepak wanted to go and play black jack. I didn't know why but he wanted to go to the Wyndham Casino. According to him he had no luck at the Radisson Casino. At approximately 02.30 am, Deepak and myself were walking to his car. He was there in his Honda Civic. The car was parked in the parking lot of the Radisson Hotel. Guido left to take Andre home.
We drove towards the Wyndham Casino. When we were just about to get out of the car, my father called. My father then told me that the police were at my house and that they were looking for a missing girl. I had then told my father that we would be coming to the house. I right away told Deepak that a girl had gone missing. Deepak had said immediately that it must be the girl from last night. I straight away thought of Natalee who I had left behind at the beach. Deepak told me straight away that it would be better if we would say that the three of us dropped of the girl at the Holiday Inn Hotel. We then drove home. At approximately 03.00 am Deepak and myself arrived home in his Honda Civic. When we arrived there we could see no-one was there so I called my dad. My dad said he was driving towards the Wyndham. I then told him that I was home. My father told me to stay there at home. Then Deepak and myself waited for about 5 minutes. Then approximately 5 cars approached. There were two police officers among them. There were a couple of people that said that they were FBI. Natalee's mother was also there. Then Deepak and myself were attacked with questions. At a certain point Deepak was cursed out by one of the men. Then my father said that enough is enough, that the police officers were the ones with authority here. At my house I had talked to a man, I don't know if he was the father. I had told him that from Carlos & Charlies we had dropped her off at the Hotel. I cannot remember telling him that I fingered Natalee. After that we had to go with the police to the police station in Noord. Deepak, my father and myself went to the police station. At the police station in Noord we did not say what had happened to the girl. We did say that we dropped off Natalee at the Holiday Inn. After that we had to go to the Holiday Inn. There were were attacked again by a woman who said she was with the FBI. I also briefly talked to agent WILLIAMS of the FBI. I had told him we had dropped off the girl at the Holiday Inn. It is possible that I told him that I had kissed or had fingered Natalee. For the rest I had told him nothing. After that Deepak pointed out the spot were we dropped off Natalee. At approximately 05.30 am, we went back to our house with the police. When we arrived there I don't remember what was talked about outside. Deepak got into his car and drove off. My father and myself walked inside. When we got inside my father told me that he was not happy with me because I hadn't told him about what happened and that I shouldn't relate/treat to girls like that. I told him that I was sorry and that he was right. I don't remember what I had said to him. Then I went to shower. After that my dad kept me awake until the bus came to pick me up. At approximately 06.45 am I got on the bus. In the bus I slept. I don't think I called Deepak or Satish. At approximately 08.00 am the bus arrived at school. I went to the "reporting-room". After that I went to the head office and spoke to the director of the school mister "Bob WERNER". I had told Bob that the police had come to my house that morning. I think he asked me why they had come. I had told him that a girl had gone missing and that I hadn't been given the chance to get some sleep. Bob then gave me permission to sleep in the "sick room". At approximately 11.00 am I was awoken by my father. He said that the missing girl still hadn't been found and that the police wants me to make a statement. Then my father explained to Bob that I had been the last person that was seen with the girl and that I had to go and make a statement to the police. At approximately 11.15 am my father and me left the school grounds and we went to the police station in Bubali. My father and I talked somewhat about the missing girl. I don't remember what was said. One thing my father certainly said to me was to tell the truth. My father was right, I should have done that. I had told my father that we had dropped the girl off at the hotel. My father also told me that I was going to be interviewed as a witness. On the way to Bubali police station I called Deepak. I said to Deepak that I was en route to make a statement to the police about the missing girl. Deepaks answer to this was: "Shit". Deepak told me to stick to the story that we had dropped the girl off at the Holiday Inn. I couldn't properly talk to Deepak because my dad was in the car. At approximately 12.30 my dad and me had arrived at Bubali police station. I was interviewed as a witness. I cannot remember that in my statement I had said that I had been at Fisherman's Huts with Natalee. I might be possible that I stated that. During the interview I called Deepak on his mobile. I had asked him what clothes Natalee had been wearing that night. He told me that Natalee was wearing a blue skirt and a blue top. I also said to Deepak that the police would come and pick him to so that he could give a statement. Deepak had told me that he would come to the police station on his own.
At approximately 16.00 pm, we were finished at the police station in Bubali. My father and me went to Taco Bell. We ate there. After that we went home. I had gotten changed in order for me to go to tennis lesson. At approximately 17.00 pm I was dropped off by my father at the Raquet Club. Before the tennis lesson I was called by Deepak. He had told me that he had given his statement and that the police was on their way to pick up Satish in order for him to make his statement. Deepak also told me that he had told Satish what he had to say to the police. I had asked Deepak if he could come to the Raquet Club. He said no, that he was going to go to work now and that after that he would go and pick up Satish at Bubali. I don't think I said anything else to him. I did not go to the tennis lesson. Together with
Flor I went into the pool of the Raquet Club.
At approximately 20.00 pm, I was picked up by my father at the Raquet Club. Then we drove home. On Tuesday May 31st 2005, I think I only had contact with Deepak over the phone. I had called Deepak in the evening to tell him that my father had said that our phones would most likely be monitored by the FBI and that the FBI would be able to read our "Chat" conversations. I think that Deepak said it was OK. I did "Chat". After that I went to bed at approximately 23.00 pm. I slept well that night.
Deepak and I had agreed that we should talk a lot on the phone and "Chat" a lot on internet to make our story believable. I must also state that I had talked to Freddy and my parents about the fact that Deepak could have gone back to the girl. Freddy also said that if Deepak indeed went back to the girl that I was in big trouble because I was the last person seen with the girl. Freddy had told me that to be safe I should record a conversation between Deepak, Satish and myself.
You are telling me that on May 30th 2005, at approximately 03.15 I sent a message with my mobile phone to Deepak that said: "Hey Swa (buddy) I am home now, I will see you tomorrow". After that Deepak sent a message to you with the answer "Okay". To your question what I can say about that, I can state the following. It is true. I did send that message to Deepak.
If you have any more questions, I am willing to answer them tomorrow.
J.A.P. van der SLOOT
After the suspect J.A.P. van der SLOOT read the statement he had just given, he stated that he would persist in the statement and he signed said statement.
Of which, we the reporting officers, on our oath as officers have made this proces-verbaal, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 14th 2005.
The reporting officers
D.D. JACOBS L.A.G. CROES
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PROCES-VERBAAL (sixth statement of suspect)
We, Dennis Domenico JACOBS and Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES, head officer and officer first class of the Aruban Police Force, first mentioned attached to the Robbery Project Team (Atraco Team) and last mentioned attached to the section often occurring crime District 2, state the following.
On June 14th, at approximately 10.00 hours, we the reporting officers, interviewed the suspect Joran Andreas Petrus van der SLOOT born in Arnhem, the Netherlands on August 6th 1987, without occupation student (International School of Aruba) and living Montanja 19 in Aruba, for further information.
His statement was made in dutch and was transcribed by me, CROES and goes as follows,
Before we, the reporting officers, started the interview, I , CROES, notified the suspect that he was not obliged to make a statement. I also informed him that this statement was being recorded on tape.
You have just old me that you wanted to ask me about times. I can state the following.
When we, on May 30th, stopped in Deepak's car in front of my house, it was about 01.40 am. At that moment in time Deepak, Satish, Natalee and myself were in Deepak's car.
When Natalee and myself were dropped off at the Marriot Hotel by Satish and Deepak it was approximately 01.50 am. After we were dropped off Natalee and myself walked to the beach in front of the Marriot Hotel. While we were walking I noticed there was sand in my shoes. I took off my shoes and my socks. I had placed my socks in my shoes and walked with my shoes in my hand further on the beach. Natalee and myself stood for a short while at the waters edge and kissed. At that moment in time Natalee told me that she liked Aruba. She also said to me that she wanted to see sharks. I told her that there were no sharks around Aruba. She kept on asking me where she was from. I had told her that I didn't know. Natalee asked me this about five or six times. Natalee also told me that she was really good at French kissing and that she wanted to stay alone with me and French kiss. Natalee then told me again that her mother was the sister of "Hitler". Then Natalee and myself started walking in the direction of the Holiday Inn Hotel. On the way there Natalee told me that she didn't want to go to the hotel but wanted to go into the other direction. So we turned around and walked into the other direction, meaning in a northerly direction. A little further along we sat down on the beach. It was close to the waters edge in front of the Marriot Hotel. There I had placed my shoes on the sand. We started French kissing and talking there. At some moment in time Natalee had told me that she wanted to go into another direction. We stayed about five (5) minutes on the beach in front of the Marriot Hotel. Then we stood up hand in hand.
After that we walked in the direction of Fisherman's Huts/ On the way there I told Natalee that the stars were beautiful. Natalee told me that there were no stars. I was walking on the side of the waters edge. We once French kissed with each other but that wasn't easy. It wasn't easy because we were walking. Natalee had asked me how far we were from the North Coast. I told Natalee that we weren't going to walk to the North Coast because it was too far away. I estimate that it took approximately about 4 to 5 minutes to walk from the Marriot to Fisherman's Huts.
When Natalee and myself arrived at the first building of Fisherman's Huts Natalee told me that we should go and sit on the beach. We sat down on the beach next to each other and then we had went on each other. We had dry sex with each other. I was lying on the sand she she was sitting on me and pretended like we were having sex. I had told Natalee that I didn't have any condoms on me. Natalee than said to me that it was better if we had no sex with each other. After that Natalee put her hand down my pants and masturbated me. I had then opened my trousers so that my penis could come out to make it easier. While Natalee was masturbating me she told me to tell her before I came so that I wouldn't come on her because she didn't want that to happen. Before I came I told her so. When I came, I came into my own hands. I stood up and washed my hands in the sea. I then walked back to Natalee and we continued to French kiss. I started feeling up her breasts and continued to finger her with two (2) fingers. I estimate that I fingered Natalee for about fifteen (15) minutes. At some point I thought I had been fingering her for long enough. I had stopped doing it and told Natalee that it was better to go back to her hotel. I also told her that I had to go to school in the morning hours. I had told Natalee to walk with me back to her hotel. Natalee answered me that she didn't want to go back to her hotel.
I had told her again that I had to go home. Natalee answered me that she wanted to stay there on the beach. After that I told her that I would walk to her hotel. I did this thinking that she would agree to that and that she would walk there with me to her hotel. Natalee then told me again that she did not want to go back to her hotel. Then I had enough of it that she didn't want to listen to me. I had lifted her up and started walking back to the hotel with her. Natalee told me to put her down. I did put her down. I thought to myself that's it and I called Deepak.
I had called Deepak, on May 30th 2005 at approximately 03.00 am, on his mobile phone. It was May 30th 2005. I had asked Deepak how he was doing. He had told me that he was "on-line" and that he was chatting to people. I had told Deepak that the girl wouldn't listen and that she was sleeping on the beach. I asked Deepak if he would come and pick me up. Deepak further told me that he would come immediately to come and pick me up. The conversation lasted about 2 to 3 minutes. I had walked back to Natalee. She was still sleeping. I laid down next to her. At about 03.30 am Deepak came to Fisherman's Huts to pick me up. When I was sitting in the car I told Deepak that the girl was laying on the beach and that she was being annoying/irritating because she didn't want to go back to her hotel. Deepak asked me if I fucked her. I answered Deepak that I didn't because I didn't have a condom on me. Deepak also asked me what I was going to do with her. I had said to Deepak that she didn't want to go back to her hotel. I even told her that I lifted her up but that she didn't want me to bring her back to her hotel. Then Deepak said to me "don't fuck with that bitch" * that they will find her tomorrow on the beach. Then Deepak and me drove off towards home. What I can remark is that when we drove home the "Snack Truck" at "Fermins Bar" wasn't there. In the car I had....
* this is a literal translation but not the best translation. The best phrase to translate this is: "Don't bother about the bitch" or "F*** the bitch, let's go".
told Deepak that I left my shoes at the Marriot Hotel. Deepak told me not to worry that he would go back the next day and pick them up for me. I had left a pair of white and blue shoes of the make "K-Swiss", size "14" on the beach. These shoes I bought in the USA.
What I also can state is that during the drive Deepak told me that he had the next day off and that he didn't need to go to work. I had told Deepak that I did have school and that I was tired.
I was dropped off at my house by Deepak on May 30th 2005 at approximately 03.45. When I was getting out I asked him if he would go "on-line" again. Deepak answered me that he would. I also told him that I would call him tomorrow. I had asked Deepak if he could pick up the shoes I left behind at the beach. Deepak told me that he would immediately go and get them. Then Deepak drove off.
To you question as to whether I had called someone or sent messages or received messages while I was with Natalee on the beach, I can state the following. I did not call anyone else but Deepak to come and pick me up. No-one called me. I had not sent or received messages on my mobile phone.
When I got home I took a shower. After showering I had turned on my TV and airco. I had installed my Multi-Media that I was going to take to school the next day. I had also gone into the living room to look for something to drink. I had turned on my computer. I had signed in to "MSN-MESSENGER". None of the people I regularly chat with were "on-line". It is possible I sent Deepak a message to come "on-line". I say this because Deepak told me during the confrontation
that I sent him a message. But I am not sure about that. I went to sleep after that.
On May 30th 2005, at approximately 03.45 am I went to sleep. At approximately 06.30, I woke up. Between 03.45 am and 06.30 am I talked to no-one on my mobile phone. At approximately 06.45 am I got on the bus. Between 06.30 am and 06.45 am I did not talk to anyone on my mobile phone. At approximately 08.00 am, I arrived at school on the bus. I had slept the entire time the bus took to get to school. During the ride to school I don't think I called anyone with my mobile phone. I do think that I had received a message from "Flor". I did not loan my phone out to anyone to make a phone call. I am sure of that. My school starts at 08.00 am and ends at 14.45 pm. During the hours between 08.00 am and 14.45 pm I do not think I called anybody. If I sent someone messages between 08.00 am and 14.45 pm than it could only have been to "Elaine" or "Flor" and nobody else.
On Monday, May 30th 2005, I did not talk to anyone at school about having left behind Natalee. Approximately 14.45 pm, I got back onto the school bus to be driven home. I arrived at home at approximately 16.00 pm. It is possible that I called someone or that someone called me. It is also possible that I sent or received messages. I am sure Satish didn't and Deepak it is possible. If I had talked to Deepak then I would have asked him what he had been doing that day or what he was going to do.
At approximately 17.00 pm, I was dropped off by my father at the Raquet Club. Between the hours of 16.00 pm and 17.00 pm, I had done my homework and also "chatted". I do not remember with who I chatted. It could be possible that I chatted to Deepak because he does that a lot from where he works. I am not sure about that.
Between the hours of 17.00 pm and 18.00 pm I was in the gym. I was talking there with "Koen" nickname "Cul". We spoke that it was cowardly/weak and that no one was there.
My tennis lesson was between the hours of 18.00 pm and 19.00 pm. According to me I was not called by anyone during that time. I had also made no calls myself. Approximately 19.00 pm, I was ready with playing tennis. I showered in the clubhouse. After I had finised showering I got dressed. I do not remember what I put on that day. I was wearing a short trousers and a T-shirt. It looked pretty nice/proper. I also wore slippers. Then I called "Andre". I do not remember his phone number. Andre lives near the Marriot Hotel. We had agreed that we would meet at the Wyndham Hotel at approximately 20.00 pm to play poker. I had then also called Guido. Guido had told me that he had to go to work. He would come later and try to enter the tournament for half time. I had also called my father and asked if I could play poker at the Wyndham Casino. My father gave me permission.
At approximately 19.15 pm I left on foot for the Wyndham Hotel. I was alone. My tennis gear I had left behind the bar at the Raquet club. I had also removed my tennis shoes and left them in the bag behind. I had taken from my tennis bag a pair of slippers and walked away on those. From the clubhouse I walked in the direction of Salinja to the Marriot Hotel. I walked along the same route that Deepak had taken to drop off me and Natalee. At the beach of the Marriot I tried for a little while to
find my shoes. They were nowhere to be found. I looked for about two minutes. Then I walked over the beach to the Wyndham Hotel. On the way there I saw a lot of people. I did not go to Fisherman's Hut to see if Natalee was still lying there. I at that moment was more worried about the shoes that I had left behind because I was unaware that Natalee had gone missing. At approximately 19.45 pm I arrived at the Aruba Grant Hotel & Casino. I know the time because I was watching at he big watch of the Wyndham Hotel. Via the pool I walked to the casino. I had gone there because I had U.S. 20,- on me. I played at the U.S. 5,- minimum black jack table. I wanted to play there so I could win some money so I that, after the tournament, I could play cash games with Guido. I played for about 15 minutes. At the end of the game I had U.S. 20,- again. In the casino I spoke with a woman that works there. She knows my face and had told me that she had watched me play poker and that she thought I played well/good. She had then told me that it was 20.00 pm. I immediately walked to the Wyndham Hotel & Casino. At the Wyndham Hotel I walked in through the beach entrance and walked to the casino. In the casino I walked directly to the man called "Elvis". Elvis had U.S. 10,- for me. A week earlier I had lent him U.S. 10,-. I had gotten my U.S. 10,- from Elvis and went to register. The fee for registering was U.S. 10,-. I met Andre and his dad at the Casino. Andre and myself stayed inside the casino and walked around until the tournament started. The tournament started at 20.15 pm. I was at a table with ten (10) people. At the beginning of the game everyone had to give their registration receipt to the "Dealer". Thirty (30) minutes later I had lost. I then went to play black jack for about 15 minutes. I had won U.S. 30,-. With the U.S. 30,-
I went back to the poker game to play again. The second time I played poker I was in the game for about 1 hour. After an hour I had gone out. I stayed and waited for Andre because he was also losing. In the meantime I had called Guido. Guido had told me that he was nearly finished. At approximately 22.30, Guido arrived at the Wyndham Casino. Guido and myself went for a circular walk. After that Guido and myself walked to his car. His car was in the parking lot of the Wyndham Hotel. After that we drove to the Aruba Grant so that I could cash in my chips at the cashier. These were the chips that I had won earlier. Because it had turned eight o'clock earlier I had been unable to cash my chips then. Guido and myself played black jack in the Aruba Grant Casino for about 45 minutes. At the Aruba Grant I had won approximately U.S. 50,-. After that, at approximately 23.15 pm Guido and I arrived at the Radison Casino. I went to play poker. I was busy playing poker when I was called by Andre. He asked me where I was. I had told him that I was at the Radison Hotel. He told me he would come by there. Deepak had also asked me where I was. I told him that I was at the Radison Casino. Deepak told me that he would be there as soon as possible. At approximately 01.00 am Deepak came over to me. Andre was there too. I was on a roll. I played for about another hour. At approximately 02.00 am I stopped playing. I had "cashed out" my chips. Deepak wanted to go and play black jack. I didn't know why but he wanted to go to the Wyndham Casino. According to him he had no luck at the Radisson Casino. At approximately 02.30 am, Deepak and myself were walking to his car. He was there in his Honda Civic. The car was parked in the parking lot of the Radisson Hotel. Guido left to take Andre home.
We drove towards the Wyndham Casino. When we were just about to get out of the car, my father called. My father then told me that the police were at my house and that they were looking for a missing girl. I had then told my father that we would be coming to the house. I right away told Deepak that a girl had gone missing. Deepak had said immediately that it must be the girl from last night. I straight away thought of Natalee who I had left behind at the beach. Deepak told me straight away that it would be better if we would say that the three of us dropped of the girl at the Holiday Inn Hotel. We then drove home. At approximately 03.00 am Deepak and myself arrived home in his Honda Civic. When we arrived there we could see no-one was there so I called my dad. My dad said he was driving towards the Wyndham. I then told him that I was home. My father told me to stay there at home. Then Deepak and myself waited for about 5 minutes. Then approximately 5 cars approached. There were two police officers among them. There were a couple of people that said that they were FBI. Natalee's mother was also there. Then Deepak and myself were attacked with questions. At a certain point Deepak was cursed out by one of the men. Then my father said that enough is enough, that the police officers were the ones with authority here. At my house I had talked to a man, I don't know if he was the father. I had told him that from Carlos & Charlies we had dropped her off at the Hotel. I cannot remember telling him that I fingered Natalee. After that we had to go with the police to the police station in Noord. Deepak, my father and myself went to the police station. At the police station in Noord we did not say what had happened to the girl. We did say that we dropped off Natalee at the Holiday Inn. After that we had to go to the Holiday Inn. There were were attacked again by a woman who said she was with the FBI. I also briefly talked to agent WILLIAMS of the FBI. I had told him we had dropped off the girl at the Holiday Inn. It is possible that I told him that I had kissed or had fingered Natalee. For the rest I had told him nothing. After that Deepak pointed out the spot were we dropped off Natalee. At approximately 05.30 am, we went back to our house with the police. When we arrived there I don't remember what was talked about outside. Deepak got into his car and drove off. My father and myself walked inside. When we got inside my father told me that he was not happy with me because I hadn't told him about what happened and that I shouldn't relate/treat to girls like that. I told him that I was sorry and that he was right. I don't remember what I had said to him. Then I went to shower. After that my dad kept me awake until the bus came to pick me up. At approximately 06.45 am I got on the bus. In the bus I slept. I don't think I called Deepak or Satish. At approximately 08.00 am the bus arrived at school. I went to the "reporting-room". After that I went to the head office and spoke to the director of the school mister "Bob WERNER". I had told Bob that the police had come to my house that morning. I think he asked me why they had come. I had told him that a girl had gone missing and that I hadn't been given the chance to get some sleep. Bob then gave me permission to sleep in the "sick room". At approximately 11.00 am I was awoken by my father. He said that the missing girl still hadn't been found and that the police wants me to make a statement. Then my father explained to Bob that I had been the last person that was seen with the girl and that I had to go and make a statement to the police. At approximately 11.15 am my father and me left the school grounds and we went to the police station in Bubali. My father and I talked somewhat about the missing girl. I don't remember what was said. One thing my father certainly said to me was to tell the truth. My father was right, I should have done that. I had told my father that we had dropped the girl off at the hotel. My father also told me that I was going to be interviewed as a witness. On the way to Bubali police station I called Deepak. I said to Deepak that I was en route to make a statement to the police about the missing girl. Deepaks answer to this was: "Shit". Deepak told me to stick to the story that we had dropped the girl off at the Holiday Inn. I couldn't properly talk to Deepak because my dad was in the car. At approximately 12.30 my dad and me had arrived at Bubali police station. I was interviewed as a witness. I cannot remember that in my statement I had said that I had been at Fisherman's Huts with Natalee. I might be possible that I stated that. During the interview I called Deepak on his mobile. I had asked him what clothes Natalee had been wearing that night. He told me that Natalee was wearing a blue skirt and a blue top. I also said to Deepak that the police would come and pick him to so that he could give a statement. Deepak had told me that he would come to the police station on his own.
At approximately 16.00 pm, we were finished at the police station in Bubali. My father and me went to Taco Bell. We ate there. After that we went home. I had gotten changed in order for me to go to tennis lesson. At approximately 17.00 pm I was dropped off by my father at the Raquet Club. Before the tennis lesson I was called by Deepak. He had told me that he had given his statement and that the police was on their way to pick up Satish in order for him to make his statement. Deepak also told me that he had told Satish what he had to say to the police. I had asked Deepak if he could come to the Raquet Club. He said no, that he was going to go to work now and that after that he would go and pick up Satish at Bubali. I don't think I said anything else to him. I did not go to the tennis lesson. Together with
Flor I went into the pool of the Raquet Club.
At approximately 20.00 pm, I was picked up by my father at the Raquet Club. Then we drove home. On Tuesday May 31st 2005, I think I only had contact with Deepak over the phone. I had called Deepak in the evening to tell him that my father had said that our phones would most likely be monitored by the FBI and that the FBI would be able to read our "Chat" conversations. I think that Deepak said it was OK. I did "Chat". After that I went to bed at approximately 23.00 pm. I slept well that night.
Deepak and I had agreed that we should talk a lot on the phone and "Chat" a lot on internet to make our story believable. I must also state that I had talked to Freddy and my parents about the fact that Deepak could have gone back to the girl. Freddy also said that if Deepak indeed went back to the girl that I was in big trouble because I was the last person seen with the girl. Freddy had told me that to be safe I should record a conversation between Deepak, Satish and myself.
You are telling me that on May 30th 2005, at approximately 03.15 I sent a message with my mobile phone to Deepak that said: "Hey Swa (buddy) I am home now, I will see you tomorrow". After that Deepak sent a message to you with the answer "Okay". To your question what I can say about that, I can state the following. It is true. I did send that message to Deepak.
If you have any more questions, I am willing to answer them tomorrow.
J.A.P. van der SLOOT
After the suspect J.A.P. van der SLOOT read the statement he had just given, he stated that he would persist in the statement and he signed said statement.
Of which, we the reporting officers, on our oath as officers have made this proces-verbaal, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 14th 2005.
The reporting officers
D.D. JACOBS L.A.G. CROES
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Joran, June 24, 2005
PROCES – VERBAAL
We, Ghrizanti Anuar TROMP and Marcelino Antonio Gregory RAS respectively officer and officer first class with the Korps Politie Aruba and both attached to the Robbery Project Team (Atraco Team) declare the following.
On June 24th 2005, at approximately 10.00 hours, we, the reporting officers, went to the correctional facility Aruba to pick up suspect "Joran Andreas Petrus van der SLOOT" to be questioned.
There we, the reporting officers, were informed by the watch-commander on duty of the KIA that the suspect J.A.P. van der SLOOT refused to go with us.
The suspect J.A.P. van der SLOOT talked to us subsequently, and informed us that he did not want to go with us to the police station in Oranjestad to make a statement.
The suspect J.A.P. van der SLOOT gave us as a reason:
- he would only go with us, the reporting officers if is father was released;
- that his mother and his lawyer had advised him on behalf of his father to not make any more statements and to invoke his right to not make statements;
- that he would receive a message from his father's lawyer when he should make statements;
- that according to his lawyer, if he would stop making statements, his father would be released in two days;
- that he listens to his families advise;
- that the lawyers "Antonio CARLO" and "OOMEN" are good friends of his father
- that these two lawyers out of friendship with is father would defend them
- that he know that if he would make a statement he could bring his father into trouble
- that his father suffers from bad memory and that because of that his and his fathers statements would not correspond
- that his father even can't remember what kind of clothes he himself wore the day before
- that his lawyer had said that the police arrested his father because according to the police his father had picked him up in the late night hours of May 30th 2005 at McDonalds
- that he wished the police would leave his friends and family alone/stop bothering his family and friends
- that he would only answer new questions asked by investigators
- that his lawyer had advised him only to make statements in his presence
- that his lawyer had started a lawsuit so that he would only make a statement with the lawyer present
- that he wouldn't come with us today because his mother would be visiting him at 14.00 hours that day
- that if he gets a visit from his mother he would discuss making another statement with her
- that only if his father, by way of his lawyer would say he should make a statement he would do so
- that he was waiting for the statement of his father and after that make another statement.
Of this, we, the reporting officers, on our oath of office, have made this proces-verbaal, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 24th 2005.
The reporting officers,
S.A. TROMP M.A.G. RAS
PROCES – VERBAAL
We, Ghrizanti Anuar TROMP and Marcelino Antonio Gregory RAS respectively officer and officer first class with the Korps Politie Aruba and both attached to the Robbery Project Team (Atraco Team) declare the following.
On June 24th 2005, at approximately 10.00 hours, we, the reporting officers, went to the correctional facility Aruba to pick up suspect "Joran Andreas Petrus van der SLOOT" to be questioned.
There we, the reporting officers, were informed by the watch-commander on duty of the KIA that the suspect J.A.P. van der SLOOT refused to go with us.
The suspect J.A.P. van der SLOOT talked to us subsequently, and informed us that he did not want to go with us to the police station in Oranjestad to make a statement.
The suspect J.A.P. van der SLOOT gave us as a reason:
- he would only go with us, the reporting officers if is father was released;
- that his mother and his lawyer had advised him on behalf of his father to not make any more statements and to invoke his right to not make statements;
- that he would receive a message from his father's lawyer when he should make statements;
- that according to his lawyer, if he would stop making statements, his father would be released in two days;
- that he listens to his families advise;
- that the lawyers "Antonio CARLO" and "OOMEN" are good friends of his father
- that these two lawyers out of friendship with is father would defend them
- that he know that if he would make a statement he could bring his father into trouble
- that his father suffers from bad memory and that because of that his and his fathers statements would not correspond
- that his father even can't remember what kind of clothes he himself wore the day before
- that his lawyer had said that the police arrested his father because according to the police his father had picked him up in the late night hours of May 30th 2005 at McDonalds
- that he wished the police would leave his friends and family alone/stop bothering his family and friends
- that he would only answer new questions asked by investigators
- that his lawyer had advised him only to make statements in his presence
- that his lawyer had started a lawsuit so that he would only make a statement with the lawyer present
- that he wouldn't come with us today because his mother would be visiting him at 14.00 hours that day
- that if he gets a visit from his mother he would discuss making another statement with her
- that only if his father, by way of his lawyer would say he should make a statement he would do so
- that he was waiting for the statement of his father and after that make another statement.
Of this, we, the reporting officers, on our oath of office, have made this proces-verbaal, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 24th 2005.
The reporting officers,
S.A. TROMP M.A.G. RAS
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Joran June 24, 2005
PROCES-VERBAAL
We, Dennis Domenico JACOBS and Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES, head-officer and officer-first class with the Korps Politie Aruba, first mentioned attaced to the robbery project team (Atraco Team) and the latter with the section often occurring crimes district 2, declare the following.
On Friday, June 24th, at approximately 18.40 hours, we, the reporting officers, interrogated/interviewed the suspect:
Joran Andreas Petrus van der SLOOT born in Arnhem, the Netherlands on August 6th 1987, without occupation student (International School of Aruba) and living Montanja 19 on Aruba, for further information.
His statement that was given in Papiamento was translated and transcribed by me, JACOBS, into dutch and goes as follows.
Before we, the reporting officers, started the interview, I, JACOBS, informed the suspect that he was not obliged to make any statement.
I, JACOBS, also informed the suspect that this interview is being taped.
"You are informing me that you have several questions for me and want to hear an answer to those questions. I am prepared to give them.
To your question whether I know a girl named "Karen" and whether I had a sexual relation with her, I answer you the following. Ik know the girl named "Karen". I do not know Karen's last name. I had a sexual relation with her but I do not remember the time period. (With Karen we mean the witness "Karen Theresa Paulina MARTINA"; remark JACOBS).
To your question whether I had a sexual relationship with Karen during "Carnaval" this year, I answer you in the affirmative. During the "fakkeloptocht" this year I was dancing in the "Last-Lap". I think it was near the bridge of the "Renaissance Hotel" when I saw Karen. I saw that Karen went to dance with Jaime CAARASQUILLA, nickname "Beto". I suspect that Karen was drinking at that moment in time but I did not see that. After the "fakkeloptocht" "Jaime CARRASQUILLA", "Freddy ZEDAN", "Karen" and myself walked to "Carlos & Charlies". According to me "Koen GOTTENBOS" was also with us when we were walking to Carlos & Charlies. Inside Carlos & Charlies Karen and I walked upstairs and started french kissing. After that Karen and me walked outside and walked to the "Pier" due east of Carlos & Charlies. When we were standing on the "Pier" I asked Karen if she could give me a "blow-job". Karen agreed to this and started sucking my penis. I do not remember if I was standing upright or if I was lying down on the ground when Karen gave me the blow-job. I have to state that I wanted to have a sexual relationship with Karen but that I did not have a condom on me at that precise moment. After Karen had given me the blow-job Freddy ZEDAN called me on my mobile phone. Freddy told me that they were going to go home and asked me how I would get home. According to me Freddy also told me that he was at that moment in time sitting in the car of "Chato". The name of "Chato" is "Leonardo" but I do not know his last name. According to me Chato is from Mexico. Freddy, Karen and me got a ride from Chato. Chato and Freddy were in the front and Karen and me got into the back. When Karen and me were sitting in the back I think I asked whether I had a sexual relation with her, I answer you the following. I know the girl named "Karen". I do not know Karen's last name. I had a Karen to give me another blow-job, something that she did then do. Chato saw then that Karen was giving me head in his pick-up. Chato drives a green 4-door pick-up of the Ford make when he brought us three, meaning Freddy, Karen and myself a ride to my house. I do not know the license plate of Chato's pick-up. When we arrived at my appartement the 4 of us went inside the appartement. Chato had a hip flask containing whiskey. Chato and Karen drank from the contents. I have to say that I am not sure any more if "Freddy ZEDAN" or "Fernando VIANA" was in the appartement with us. Karen and I went to lie down on the sofa-bed and had put a blanket over us. Karen and I started fondling and having "foreplay". Chato tried to pull the blanket off of us to see what we were doing. Chato asked me to ask Karen if he and I could have sexual relations with Karen together. On Chato's request I asked Karen if she was willing to have sex with me and Chato together. Karen told me that she did not want to have sex with me and Chato. After that Chato and Freddy left. I do not know where Chato and Freddy went to. Karen and I were on the sofa-bed. We started kissing and I fingered Karen. After that I had taken my clothes off. Karen then took off her clothes. At that point I was told by Karen to put on a condom. I went to my drawer and took out a condom and put it on. After that we had sex with each other. I do not know if Karen bled when I had sex with her. At no time did Karen say to me that she did not want to have sex with me. I can also not tell you anymore what the condition was of Karen when I had sex with her in my appartement. She had been drinking but I also had been drinking. We had also both drank from Chato's hip-flask. I don't remember right know what kind of alcoholic drink was in that hip-flask. After Karen and me had sex I went to the bathroom and threw the condom into the toilet. I have no recollection of what happened after that.
I only had sex with Karen three times. The first time I had sex with Karen was on the beach close to the "Havana Niteclub". I do not remember the date, but it was during a "Moonlite Party". On the day Karen and me had sex the first time we had both had alcoholic drinks but we were not drunk.
About two months ago I had sex with Karen for the last time. This happened in my appartement and on that day Karen stayed the night with me. According to me I had told my mother that Karen would be staying for the night.
To your question whether or not I had sex with a girl named "Stephania", I answer you that I have not.
To your question whether I know the girl named "Stephany BOEKHOUWER", I answer you the following. This year, I don't remember the exact date, Freddy, Jaime and me went to a "Houseparty" in Oranjestad. We drove in Jaime's car to the houseparty. The car of Jaime is famous because we had experienced a lot of things in Jaime's car. Jaime has a 4-door green "Honda". On that day Freddy had sex with Stephany BOEKHOUWER on the backseat of Jaime's car. I gave Freddy a condom before he had sex with Stephany. While Freddy was having sex with Stephany on the backseat, Jaime and myself stood down at the trunk of the car and drank alcoholic beverages.
To your question whether I had a relationship with a girl name "Rika", I answer you the following. Rika was my girlfriend but we did not have a sexual relationship with each other. We may have done some french kissing but I did not have sexual relations with her because she is twelve (12) years old. Rika's parents found out about our relationship and that is why we stopped the relationship. I do not know Rika's last name.
This is my statement in accordance with the truth".
J.A.P. van der SLOOT
After the suspect J.A.P. van der SLOOT had read the statement he had given, he stated he would persist in it and signed the statement.
The reporting officers,
JACOBS CROES
PROCES-VERBAAL
We, Dennis Domenico JACOBS and Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES, head-officer and officer-first class with the Korps Politie Aruba, first mentioned attaced to the robbery project team (Atraco Team) and the latter with the section often occurring crimes district 2, declare the following.
On Friday, June 24th, at approximately 18.40 hours, we, the reporting officers, interrogated/interviewed the suspect:
Joran Andreas Petrus van der SLOOT born in Arnhem, the Netherlands on August 6th 1987, without occupation student (International School of Aruba) and living Montanja 19 on Aruba, for further information.
His statement that was given in Papiamento was translated and transcribed by me, JACOBS, into dutch and goes as follows.
Before we, the reporting officers, started the interview, I, JACOBS, informed the suspect that he was not obliged to make any statement.
I, JACOBS, also informed the suspect that this interview is being taped.
"You are informing me that you have several questions for me and want to hear an answer to those questions. I am prepared to give them.
To your question whether I know a girl named "Karen" and whether I had a sexual relation with her, I answer you the following. Ik know the girl named "Karen". I do not know Karen's last name. I had a sexual relation with her but I do not remember the time period. (With Karen we mean the witness "Karen Theresa Paulina MARTINA"; remark JACOBS).
To your question whether I had a sexual relationship with Karen during "Carnaval" this year, I answer you in the affirmative. During the "fakkeloptocht" this year I was dancing in the "Last-Lap". I think it was near the bridge of the "Renaissance Hotel" when I saw Karen. I saw that Karen went to dance with Jaime CAARASQUILLA, nickname "Beto". I suspect that Karen was drinking at that moment in time but I did not see that. After the "fakkeloptocht" "Jaime CARRASQUILLA", "Freddy ZEDAN", "Karen" and myself walked to "Carlos & Charlies". According to me "Koen GOTTENBOS" was also with us when we were walking to Carlos & Charlies. Inside Carlos & Charlies Karen and I walked upstairs and started french kissing. After that Karen and me walked outside and walked to the "Pier" due east of Carlos & Charlies. When we were standing on the "Pier" I asked Karen if she could give me a "blow-job". Karen agreed to this and started sucking my penis. I do not remember if I was standing upright or if I was lying down on the ground when Karen gave me the blow-job. I have to state that I wanted to have a sexual relationship with Karen but that I did not have a condom on me at that precise moment. After Karen had given me the blow-job Freddy ZEDAN called me on my mobile phone. Freddy told me that they were going to go home and asked me how I would get home. According to me Freddy also told me that he was at that moment in time sitting in the car of "Chato". The name of "Chato" is "Leonardo" but I do not know his last name. According to me Chato is from Mexico. Freddy, Karen and me got a ride from Chato. Chato and Freddy were in the front and Karen and me got into the back. When Karen and me were sitting in the back I think I asked whether I had a sexual relation with her, I answer you the following. I know the girl named "Karen". I do not know Karen's last name. I had a Karen to give me another blow-job, something that she did then do. Chato saw then that Karen was giving me head in his pick-up. Chato drives a green 4-door pick-up of the Ford make when he brought us three, meaning Freddy, Karen and myself a ride to my house. I do not know the license plate of Chato's pick-up. When we arrived at my appartement the 4 of us went inside the appartement. Chato had a hip flask containing whiskey. Chato and Karen drank from the contents. I have to say that I am not sure any more if "Freddy ZEDAN" or "Fernando VIANA" was in the appartement with us. Karen and I went to lie down on the sofa-bed and had put a blanket over us. Karen and I started fondling and having "foreplay". Chato tried to pull the blanket off of us to see what we were doing. Chato asked me to ask Karen if he and I could have sexual relations with Karen together. On Chato's request I asked Karen if she was willing to have sex with me and Chato together. Karen told me that she did not want to have sex with me and Chato. After that Chato and Freddy left. I do not know where Chato and Freddy went to. Karen and I were on the sofa-bed. We started kissing and I fingered Karen. After that I had taken my clothes off. Karen then took off her clothes. At that point I was told by Karen to put on a condom. I went to my drawer and took out a condom and put it on. After that we had sex with each other. I do not know if Karen bled when I had sex with her. At no time did Karen say to me that she did not want to have sex with me. I can also not tell you anymore what the condition was of Karen when I had sex with her in my appartement. She had been drinking but I also had been drinking. We had also both drank from Chato's hip-flask. I don't remember right know what kind of alcoholic drink was in that hip-flask. After Karen and me had sex I went to the bathroom and threw the condom into the toilet. I have no recollection of what happened after that.
I only had sex with Karen three times. The first time I had sex with Karen was on the beach close to the "Havana Niteclub". I do not remember the date, but it was during a "Moonlite Party". On the day Karen and me had sex the first time we had both had alcoholic drinks but we were not drunk.
About two months ago I had sex with Karen for the last time. This happened in my appartement and on that day Karen stayed the night with me. According to me I had told my mother that Karen would be staying for the night.
To your question whether or not I had sex with a girl named "Stephania", I answer you that I have not.
To your question whether I know the girl named "Stephany BOEKHOUWER", I answer you the following. This year, I don't remember the exact date, Freddy, Jaime and me went to a "Houseparty" in Oranjestad. We drove in Jaime's car to the houseparty. The car of Jaime is famous because we had experienced a lot of things in Jaime's car. Jaime has a 4-door green "Honda". On that day Freddy had sex with Stephany BOEKHOUWER on the backseat of Jaime's car. I gave Freddy a condom before he had sex with Stephany. While Freddy was having sex with Stephany on the backseat, Jaime and myself stood down at the trunk of the car and drank alcoholic beverages.
To your question whether I had a relationship with a girl name "Rika", I answer you the following. Rika was my girlfriend but we did not have a sexual relationship with each other. We may have done some french kissing but I did not have sexual relations with her because she is twelve (12) years old. Rika's parents found out about our relationship and that is why we stopped the relationship. I do not know Rika's last name.
This is my statement in accordance with the truth".
J.A.P. van der SLOOT
After the suspect J.A.P. van der SLOOT had read the statement he had given, he stated he would persist in it and signed the statement.
The reporting officers,
JACOBS CROES
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by JD » Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:03 pm
Deepak, June 9, 2005
Pl\O JUSTITIA KORPS POLITIE ARUBA Recherche District 2
Mutatie No.: Parket No. :Adm. No.
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Verklaring verdachte
PROCES -VERBAAL
We, Johny Melvis ERASMUS and Clyde Anthony BURKE, respectively officer first class and sergeant first class, with the Korps Politie Aruba and attached to the Section Often Occurring Crimes District II, declare the following.
On June 9th 2005, approximately 10:55am, we interviewed as a suspect the man named: Deepak Sharma KALPOE, born in Paramaribo, Surinam on October 6 1983, assistant manager Cyberzone Internet Café and living on Hooiberg 91-B, Santa Cruz, Aruba.
Before the suspect was interviewed, he was informed by me, ERASMUS, that he was not obliged to make a statement.
He then made a statement in dutch, that was transcribed by me, ERASMUS, and goes as follows:
Before the interview started I was informed by you that I am under no obligation to make a statement. Although I know that, I am still willing to make a statement. I had earlier given a statement about what happened that day. My statement will not differ from the one I earlier gave. Details I have now forgotten. I will try to remember as much as possible. I have to inform you that I was contacted a few days ago by a boy named Steve. Steve said to me that he saw us on May 30th 2005 when we dropped the girl off in the nightly hours. Steve's phone number is REMOVED.
On May 29th 2005 I was called before closing time of the business where I work by Joran. (with Joran is meant suspect J.A.P. van der Sloot; comment by reporting officers). I was working. We close approximately at 22.00 hours. I assume that Joran called me at approximately 21.50 hours. Joran had asked me if I had to work the next day. I had told him that I had to work tomorrow afternoon. He then asked me whether I wanted to go with to "Carlos & Charlies", because he had met a few girls and wanted to meet them again in "Carlos & Charlies". I agreed and told him that I would pick him up later. A little before 23.00 hours I drove home. I ate something at home together with my brother Satish and after that I vacuumed the carpet on the inside of my car. (with Satish is meant the suspect S.S. KALPOE; comment reporting officers). My sister Angie was already asleep. My mother was not home, she was working. The man with whom my mother is married, was also at work. While we ate I had asked Satish if he wanted to come to "Carlos & Charlies". After I finished vacuuming I went and took a shower. A little before 0.00 hours I drove to Joran's house. Joran lives on the address Montanja 19. He lives in his own apartment. We, Satish and me, entered Joran's because he wasn't ready yet. He was still printing a project/something for school. We were inside Joran's place for about fifteen minutes. After that we drove to "Carlos & Charlies". I had parked my car in the parking lot behind "Carlos & Charlies" with the front side of my car parked towards the wall of "Carlos & Charlies". We got out and walked towards "Carlos & Charlies". At that time it was approximately 00:30 hours. We walked straight to the bar. Joran had bought us something to drink. He hadn't asked us what we wanted, because he already knew what we liked to drink. He had bought three "YARDS" with whisky coke. We walked to the podium/stage. Podium/stage is a floor-elevation where one dances. We went and watched. I estimate that about seventy people were present or more, maybe. We stood there with the three of us talking. Shortly after that, I estimate about three to four minutes, Joran was called over by a girl, by means of a hand gesture (with the girl is Natalee Ann HOLLOWAY is meant; comment reporting officers). By the way the girl was dancing, I assumed that she was reasonable intoxicated. Joran had made it known by hand gesture that he didn't want to come to her. After the song was over, the girl walked over to Joran. The girl was a bit unsteady on her feet when walking up to Joran. I noticed that she was a pretty girl. I saw that Joran and the girl were talking. I heard that the topic was dancing. I saw Joran laugh and saw that Joran said something back to her. I did not hear what Joran said back to her. I looked around and did not pay attention to what they were talking about. A friend of mine came walking up to me. His name is Eli and I don't know his last name. He used to me in my class at the MAVO/BAVO. Eli talked to me for about five to ten minutes. Eli then walked away. When I turned around Satish and Joran were nowhere to be seen. They hadn't even told that they were leaving. I looked for them for a short while, but hadn't found them. I was in the bathroom for a little while. I have no patience to look. After the bathroom I looked around somewhat. I walked past the bar, past the glass section where the "Carlos & Charlies" souvenirs of "Carlos & Charlie" are sold to the outside. When I was walking outside, I could hear the announcement that it was the last opportunity to buy alcohol. That is always announced before closing, I walked to my car. My car was the only one parked in the back of the parking lot. I went and sat in my car to wait for Satish and Joran. I had no more money left on my pre-paid phone to call them. I was listening to the radio and was trying to adjust the sound. The car door on the right front door was opened. I looked up and saw that it was Satish. Satish sat down next to me. Then the back car door opened. Joran got into the car. He got in on the right side of the car and sat down behind Satish. The girl had also got into the car through the back car door on the left side. She sat down behind me in the car. I greeted her. I said to her: "Hi" She greeted me back and had told me her name. I immediately forgot her name. I had no problem with the fact that she was sitting in the car. It wasn't the first time that I had girls in my car that were on vacation and dropped them off at hotels. I looked in front of me and asked Joran in Papiamentu what were we going to do. Joran answered in Papiamentu drive around. I backed up my car, drove from the parking lot and then past "Carlos & Charlies" twice. I had the volume of my car radio turned up pretty high. To understand each other we had to talk loudly. During the two times that we drove past "Carlos & Charlies" I hadn't spoken to the girl. I only talked to my brother. When I was going to pass by Carlos & Charlies for the third time I saw a police van on the corner. I wasn't wearing my seatbelt and because of that I turned into the other direction. I decided to Turn right instead of left, in the direction of "Choose a Name". When I turned left we had to drive at walking pace because of a row of cars in front of me. During that time the girl stuck her head out of the car and yelled something. I had not understood what she had shouted. I looked into the direction she had been yelling to. I saw a group of people standing there, there were both boys and girls there. It was a group of more than ten people. I assumed that they belonged with her group. One of the boys responded and walked towards us. I hear the boy say: " What are you doing there. Are you crazy, get out of the car."(loosely translated: What are you doing. Are you nuts/crazy. Get out of that car). She didn't want to get out. I hadn't responded to it. I kept on driving at walking pace and stopped my car at the zebra crossing. I had done this because I thought it would be better if she went with her friends. To prevent problems because her friends clearly didn't want her coming with us. To your question as to what I mean by problems, I can state the following. The kind of problem that I have now gotten into. People would think that she would have gone with us against her will. She had been more drunk than she had been previously. I thought that she talked too much. She talked pretty loud, I could not hear what she was talking about. I had told her in English that if her friends thought it better she'd go with them, that it would be best if she did. She refused to go with them. She said I could also drop her off, seeing as I owned a car. It is possible that I turned down the volume of my radio, or else I would have had to shout at her. I then drove on. I drove into the first road immediately after "Choose a Name". This road leads to "mainstreet". I had turned up the volume of the car radio again. On "mainstreet" I turned right. At the intersection I turned left in the direct mail road (with main road the L.G. Smith Boulevard is meant; comment reporting officers). On the main road I turned right, towards "Royal Plaza". I had planned to drop the girl off with her friends. When I came back to the intersection where her friend had been standing, I found they had left from there. That was at approximately 01.20 hours. In English I asked in general what we were going to do. She said in English that she wanted to see sharks at the "lighthouse". I assumed she wanted to see the "Lighthouse". I hadn't thought anything else. I drove into the direction of the "Lighthouse" with a speed of between seventy to eighty kilometers an hour. I know this because I have made it a habit to look at the speedometer. I drove into the direction of the "Lighthouse" over the main road. On the way there I looked into the rear view mirror and saw that Joran and the girl were french kissing, that was in the vicinity of where "Hooters" used to be. I had been looking into the rear view mirror regularly looking at the traffic situation. The times that I looked back I saw there were French kissing. They were not kissing constantly because I heard them talking too. While they were kissing, I just thought that it was Joran's girlfriend and didn't think anything else of it. I had constantly driven on asphalted roads. I am very careful with my car and I don't drive on roads with a lof of potholes and bumps. It was for first time I had driven with this car out to the "Lighthouse". At the "Lighthouse" I continued to follow the asphalted road. This road leads past the restaurant back up to the "lighthouse". Arriving at the "Lighthouse" I had started to drive more slowly. Just before we drove past the restaurant I said in English that this is the "Lighthouse". Nobody responded. I looked around to the back of the car and saw that Joran and the girl were French kissing. Joran had his hand under the girls skirt. According to me it was his left hand. I didn't think it strange, I had seen this before with friends who took girls with them in my car.
I immediately faced forward. I looked at Satish with a look saying, what should I do. Satish said to me in dutch to keep driving. This all happened near the restaurant. I saw that at the "Lighthouse" two cars were parked. A green coloured jeep, with according to me four doors, open roof (soft top), that looked like a Suzuki Vitara and a white four door saloon. I drove back down at a calm speed. After I had passed the hills I picked up the speed until I drove seventy to eighty kilometers an hour. At the section where there was no street lighting, Joran told me that the girl had fallen asleep. I quickly turned around and saw that she was really sleeping. I asked Joran in dutch how that was possible. I told Joran to wake up the girl to ask her where she was saying in order for me to drop her off. After I asked Joran where she was staying, about one to two minutes had passed before Joran told me that she was staying at the "Holiday Inn" hotel. Just to be sure, I repeated "Holiday Inn". Satish also asked Joran: "Holiday Inn"! I then accelerated until I hit ninety kilometers an hour. The exhaust of my car makes a lot of noise. The faster I drive the noisier it becomes. I immediately turned into the first road that leads to the "Holiday Inn". (the J.B. Irausquin Boulevard; comment reporting officer). At the "Holiday Inn" I stopped under the roof that covered the most easterly lane of the two lanes that go past the lobby of afore mentioned hotel. The roof is supported by columns and thus is split into two. She was sleeping. Joran woke her up. According to me Joran said to her that we were at the hotel. She got out. I had not seen this. I heard something fall. I heard Joran say in Papiamentu shit she has fallen down. Joran exited through the same car door as where she had fallen down to help her up. That was the right back door. I had seen the girl on the ground. I saw Joran help her. I saw that the girl turned around and pushed Joran into the car. I heard that she said something to Joran. I was unable to hear what she had said to Joran. The car radio had been turned down somewhat, the volume was maybe at the nine level or something like that. Joran looked surprised. She walked away from Joran. What I saw is that she was walking towards the lobby. I did not see her enter the lobby. I saw that she leaned against a pillar with one hand. Joran had gotten back into the car and was sitting behind Satish. In the lobby I saw a man walking up to the girl. I saw that he had a radio in his left hand. I assumed that he was talking into the radio because he held it closely in front of his mouth. It was a dark coloured man. He was fairly tall. He wore a black T-shirt and black pants.
I had slowly started pulling up. I saw that there was contact between the girl and the dark coloured man. Contact in the sense that it was verbal contact. I did not see the man touch the girl. The man was standing very close to the girl. I thought that she was in good hands and kept on driving. She was pretty drunk when I dropped her off. I estimate that it was approximately 02.10 hours when I dropped her off at her hotel.
After I had dropped her off at the hotel I took the shortest way towards the main road. I immediately drove to Joran's place and dropped him off there. I think it took me about 15 minutes to get there. I estimate that it was approximately 02.25 hours. After I dropped Joran off I drove straight home. I took me about 15 minutes. Joran doesn't live far away from me. I estimate that it was approximately 02.40 hours. Satish immediately went to bed/sleep. I had turned on the television in the living room. Like that I went in and out of my room. Watching a little television and then sitting behind my computer. I stayed up for about an hour after I had arrived at home. I had phoned no-one, after I got home. I had spoken to no-one until I woke up at approximately 14.00 hours. I have no girlfriend and I have never had a girlfriend.
To your question whether I had also touched/felt up the girl, I have to answer you negatively. I have also not seen Satish feeling/touching her up.
On the way to the Lighthouse and from the Lighthouse to the hotel, I had stopped nowhere. I had the windows of my car closed and the radio on loud.
D.S. KALPOE
After the suspect had read his statement, he persisted in his statement, but did not want to sign it until his attorney had also read it.
Of this we, ERASMUS and BURKE, on our oath as officers have made this proces-verbaal, signed and closed in Oranjestad on June 9th 2005.
The reporting officers,
M. ERASMUS C.A. BURKE
Pl\O JUSTITIA KORPS POLITIE ARUBA Recherche District 2
Mutatie No.: Parket No. :Adm. No.
Verdachte
Verklaring verdachte
PROCES -VERBAAL
We, Johny Melvis ERASMUS and Clyde Anthony BURKE, respectively officer first class and sergeant first class, with the Korps Politie Aruba and attached to the Section Often Occurring Crimes District II, declare the following.
On June 9th 2005, approximately 10:55am, we interviewed as a suspect the man named: Deepak Sharma KALPOE, born in Paramaribo, Surinam on October 6 1983, assistant manager Cyberzone Internet Café and living on Hooiberg 91-B, Santa Cruz, Aruba.
Before the suspect was interviewed, he was informed by me, ERASMUS, that he was not obliged to make a statement.
He then made a statement in dutch, that was transcribed by me, ERASMUS, and goes as follows:
Before the interview started I was informed by you that I am under no obligation to make a statement. Although I know that, I am still willing to make a statement. I had earlier given a statement about what happened that day. My statement will not differ from the one I earlier gave. Details I have now forgotten. I will try to remember as much as possible. I have to inform you that I was contacted a few days ago by a boy named Steve. Steve said to me that he saw us on May 30th 2005 when we dropped the girl off in the nightly hours. Steve's phone number is REMOVED.
On May 29th 2005 I was called before closing time of the business where I work by Joran. (with Joran is meant suspect J.A.P. van der Sloot; comment by reporting officers). I was working. We close approximately at 22.00 hours. I assume that Joran called me at approximately 21.50 hours. Joran had asked me if I had to work the next day. I had told him that I had to work tomorrow afternoon. He then asked me whether I wanted to go with to "Carlos & Charlies", because he had met a few girls and wanted to meet them again in "Carlos & Charlies". I agreed and told him that I would pick him up later. A little before 23.00 hours I drove home. I ate something at home together with my brother Satish and after that I vacuumed the carpet on the inside of my car. (with Satish is meant the suspect S.S. KALPOE; comment reporting officers). My sister Angie was already asleep. My mother was not home, she was working. The man with whom my mother is married, was also at work. While we ate I had asked Satish if he wanted to come to "Carlos & Charlies". After I finished vacuuming I went and took a shower. A little before 0.00 hours I drove to Joran's house. Joran lives on the address Montanja 19. He lives in his own apartment. We, Satish and me, entered Joran's because he wasn't ready yet. He was still printing a project/something for school. We were inside Joran's place for about fifteen minutes. After that we drove to "Carlos & Charlies". I had parked my car in the parking lot behind "Carlos & Charlies" with the front side of my car parked towards the wall of "Carlos & Charlies". We got out and walked towards "Carlos & Charlies". At that time it was approximately 00:30 hours. We walked straight to the bar. Joran had bought us something to drink. He hadn't asked us what we wanted, because he already knew what we liked to drink. He had bought three "YARDS" with whisky coke. We walked to the podium/stage. Podium/stage is a floor-elevation where one dances. We went and watched. I estimate that about seventy people were present or more, maybe. We stood there with the three of us talking. Shortly after that, I estimate about three to four minutes, Joran was called over by a girl, by means of a hand gesture (with the girl is Natalee Ann HOLLOWAY is meant; comment reporting officers). By the way the girl was dancing, I assumed that she was reasonable intoxicated. Joran had made it known by hand gesture that he didn't want to come to her. After the song was over, the girl walked over to Joran. The girl was a bit unsteady on her feet when walking up to Joran. I noticed that she was a pretty girl. I saw that Joran and the girl were talking. I heard that the topic was dancing. I saw Joran laugh and saw that Joran said something back to her. I did not hear what Joran said back to her. I looked around and did not pay attention to what they were talking about. A friend of mine came walking up to me. His name is Eli and I don't know his last name. He used to me in my class at the MAVO/BAVO. Eli talked to me for about five to ten minutes. Eli then walked away. When I turned around Satish and Joran were nowhere to be seen. They hadn't even told that they were leaving. I looked for them for a short while, but hadn't found them. I was in the bathroom for a little while. I have no patience to look. After the bathroom I looked around somewhat. I walked past the bar, past the glass section where the "Carlos & Charlies" souvenirs of "Carlos & Charlie" are sold to the outside. When I was walking outside, I could hear the announcement that it was the last opportunity to buy alcohol. That is always announced before closing, I walked to my car. My car was the only one parked in the back of the parking lot. I went and sat in my car to wait for Satish and Joran. I had no more money left on my pre-paid phone to call them. I was listening to the radio and was trying to adjust the sound. The car door on the right front door was opened. I looked up and saw that it was Satish. Satish sat down next to me. Then the back car door opened. Joran got into the car. He got in on the right side of the car and sat down behind Satish. The girl had also got into the car through the back car door on the left side. She sat down behind me in the car. I greeted her. I said to her: "Hi" She greeted me back and had told me her name. I immediately forgot her name. I had no problem with the fact that she was sitting in the car. It wasn't the first time that I had girls in my car that were on vacation and dropped them off at hotels. I looked in front of me and asked Joran in Papiamentu what were we going to do. Joran answered in Papiamentu drive around. I backed up my car, drove from the parking lot and then past "Carlos & Charlies" twice. I had the volume of my car radio turned up pretty high. To understand each other we had to talk loudly. During the two times that we drove past "Carlos & Charlies" I hadn't spoken to the girl. I only talked to my brother. When I was going to pass by Carlos & Charlies for the third time I saw a police van on the corner. I wasn't wearing my seatbelt and because of that I turned into the other direction. I decided to Turn right instead of left, in the direction of "Choose a Name". When I turned left we had to drive at walking pace because of a row of cars in front of me. During that time the girl stuck her head out of the car and yelled something. I had not understood what she had shouted. I looked into the direction she had been yelling to. I saw a group of people standing there, there were both boys and girls there. It was a group of more than ten people. I assumed that they belonged with her group. One of the boys responded and walked towards us. I hear the boy say: " What are you doing there. Are you crazy, get out of the car."(loosely translated: What are you doing. Are you nuts/crazy. Get out of that car). She didn't want to get out. I hadn't responded to it. I kept on driving at walking pace and stopped my car at the zebra crossing. I had done this because I thought it would be better if she went with her friends. To prevent problems because her friends clearly didn't want her coming with us. To your question as to what I mean by problems, I can state the following. The kind of problem that I have now gotten into. People would think that she would have gone with us against her will. She had been more drunk than she had been previously. I thought that she talked too much. She talked pretty loud, I could not hear what she was talking about. I had told her in English that if her friends thought it better she'd go with them, that it would be best if she did. She refused to go with them. She said I could also drop her off, seeing as I owned a car. It is possible that I turned down the volume of my radio, or else I would have had to shout at her. I then drove on. I drove into the first road immediately after "Choose a Name". This road leads to "mainstreet". I had turned up the volume of the car radio again. On "mainstreet" I turned right. At the intersection I turned left in the direct mail road (with main road the L.G. Smith Boulevard is meant; comment reporting officers). On the main road I turned right, towards "Royal Plaza". I had planned to drop the girl off with her friends. When I came back to the intersection where her friend had been standing, I found they had left from there. That was at approximately 01.20 hours. In English I asked in general what we were going to do. She said in English that she wanted to see sharks at the "lighthouse". I assumed she wanted to see the "Lighthouse". I hadn't thought anything else. I drove into the direction of the "Lighthouse" with a speed of between seventy to eighty kilometers an hour. I know this because I have made it a habit to look at the speedometer. I drove into the direction of the "Lighthouse" over the main road. On the way there I looked into the rear view mirror and saw that Joran and the girl were french kissing, that was in the vicinity of where "Hooters" used to be. I had been looking into the rear view mirror regularly looking at the traffic situation. The times that I looked back I saw there were French kissing. They were not kissing constantly because I heard them talking too. While they were kissing, I just thought that it was Joran's girlfriend and didn't think anything else of it. I had constantly driven on asphalted roads. I am very careful with my car and I don't drive on roads with a lof of potholes and bumps. It was for first time I had driven with this car out to the "Lighthouse". At the "Lighthouse" I continued to follow the asphalted road. This road leads past the restaurant back up to the "lighthouse". Arriving at the "Lighthouse" I had started to drive more slowly. Just before we drove past the restaurant I said in English that this is the "Lighthouse". Nobody responded. I looked around to the back of the car and saw that Joran and the girl were French kissing. Joran had his hand under the girls skirt. According to me it was his left hand. I didn't think it strange, I had seen this before with friends who took girls with them in my car.
I immediately faced forward. I looked at Satish with a look saying, what should I do. Satish said to me in dutch to keep driving. This all happened near the restaurant. I saw that at the "Lighthouse" two cars were parked. A green coloured jeep, with according to me four doors, open roof (soft top), that looked like a Suzuki Vitara and a white four door saloon. I drove back down at a calm speed. After I had passed the hills I picked up the speed until I drove seventy to eighty kilometers an hour. At the section where there was no street lighting, Joran told me that the girl had fallen asleep. I quickly turned around and saw that she was really sleeping. I asked Joran in dutch how that was possible. I told Joran to wake up the girl to ask her where she was saying in order for me to drop her off. After I asked Joran where she was staying, about one to two minutes had passed before Joran told me that she was staying at the "Holiday Inn" hotel. Just to be sure, I repeated "Holiday Inn". Satish also asked Joran: "Holiday Inn"! I then accelerated until I hit ninety kilometers an hour. The exhaust of my car makes a lot of noise. The faster I drive the noisier it becomes. I immediately turned into the first road that leads to the "Holiday Inn". (the J.B. Irausquin Boulevard; comment reporting officer). At the "Holiday Inn" I stopped under the roof that covered the most easterly lane of the two lanes that go past the lobby of afore mentioned hotel. The roof is supported by columns and thus is split into two. She was sleeping. Joran woke her up. According to me Joran said to her that we were at the hotel. She got out. I had not seen this. I heard something fall. I heard Joran say in Papiamentu shit she has fallen down. Joran exited through the same car door as where she had fallen down to help her up. That was the right back door. I had seen the girl on the ground. I saw Joran help her. I saw that the girl turned around and pushed Joran into the car. I heard that she said something to Joran. I was unable to hear what she had said to Joran. The car radio had been turned down somewhat, the volume was maybe at the nine level or something like that. Joran looked surprised. She walked away from Joran. What I saw is that she was walking towards the lobby. I did not see her enter the lobby. I saw that she leaned against a pillar with one hand. Joran had gotten back into the car and was sitting behind Satish. In the lobby I saw a man walking up to the girl. I saw that he had a radio in his left hand. I assumed that he was talking into the radio because he held it closely in front of his mouth. It was a dark coloured man. He was fairly tall. He wore a black T-shirt and black pants.
I had slowly started pulling up. I saw that there was contact between the girl and the dark coloured man. Contact in the sense that it was verbal contact. I did not see the man touch the girl. The man was standing very close to the girl. I thought that she was in good hands and kept on driving. She was pretty drunk when I dropped her off. I estimate that it was approximately 02.10 hours when I dropped her off at her hotel.
After I had dropped her off at the hotel I took the shortest way towards the main road. I immediately drove to Joran's place and dropped him off there. I think it took me about 15 minutes to get there. I estimate that it was approximately 02.25 hours. After I dropped Joran off I drove straight home. I took me about 15 minutes. Joran doesn't live far away from me. I estimate that it was approximately 02.40 hours. Satish immediately went to bed/sleep. I had turned on the television in the living room. Like that I went in and out of my room. Watching a little television and then sitting behind my computer. I stayed up for about an hour after I had arrived at home. I had phoned no-one, after I got home. I had spoken to no-one until I woke up at approximately 14.00 hours. I have no girlfriend and I have never had a girlfriend.
To your question whether I had also touched/felt up the girl, I have to answer you negatively. I have also not seen Satish feeling/touching her up.
On the way to the Lighthouse and from the Lighthouse to the hotel, I had stopped nowhere. I had the windows of my car closed and the radio on loud.
D.S. KALPOE
After the suspect had read his statement, he persisted in his statement, but did not want to sign it until his attorney had also read it.
Of this we, ERASMUS and BURKE, on our oath as officers have made this proces-verbaal, signed and closed in Oranjestad on June 9th 2005.
The reporting officers,
M. ERASMUS C.A. BURKE
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Deepak, June 10
PROCES-VERBAAL (SECOND STATEMENT SUSPECT D.S. KALPOE)
We, Johny Melvis ERASMUS and Clyde Anthony BURKE, respectively officer first class and sergeant first class with the Korps Politie Aruba and assigned to the Section Often Occurring Crime District 2, declare the following.
On June 10th 2005, approximately 13:45 hours we interviewed suspect D.S. KALPOE for further information.
The suspect D.S. KALPOE was informed by me, BURKE, that is was not obliged to make a statement and that his statement would be taped. His statement that was in Dutch was transcribed by me, BURKE, and goes as follows.
"To your question as to how long I know Joran, I can state the following. I know Joran since before carnaval of this year. I think since January 2005.
To your question whether I can describe my friendship with Joran, I can state the following. We go out together, get to know each other. We have become good friends.
To your question as to what kind of person Joran is, I can state the following. Joran is funny, sociable, likes to get to know people and he is easy to get along with.
To your question whether I visit Joran, I can state the following. I often go and visit Joran.
To your question as to how often I visit Joran, I can state the following. I usually visit Joran on the weekends.
To your question whether I some times visit Joran during the week,
I can state the following. It sometimes happens that I go to him during the week.
To your question whether we go out together, I can state the following. We go out together.
To your question as to where we usually go, I can state the following. We usually go to the casino and to "Carlos & Charlies".
To your question as to what is the purpose of going out, I can say the following. The purpose of going out to the casino is making money and going to "Carlos & Charlies" is to go and have a drink and for the good atmosphere.
To your question whether my brother also comes along, I can state the following. My brother always comes along.
To your question as to how the relation is between my brother and Joran, I can state the following. Satish has known Joran longer than me. Their friendship is good.
To your question whether I often have contact with Joran over the phone, I can state the following. Yes, I often have contact with Joran over the phone.
To your question as to how often I have contact with him over the phone, I can state the following. The last two weeks it was daily. Before that it was usually messages.
To your question as to how often I have been in contact with Joran over the phone over the past two weeks, I can state the following. We had contact over the telephone about three to four times a day.
To your question about what we spoke when we were contact over the telephone, I can state the following. We talked about that what had happened and whether his father had information for us about about the thing/matter.
To your question as to why we talked so much about what had occurred, I can state the following. After we were heard as witnesses, we felt involved in what had occurred and also because Joran's father was a judge and he knows a lot of laws and because he thought we could yet be considered to be suspects and arrested.
To your question as to how Joran's dad came to the conclusion I just mentioned, I can state the following. We had told him about the interview, so about the manner we were interviewed.
To your question that if I know that I am innocent, I have nothing to worry about, I can state the following. I am innocent and still I was arrested.
To your question as to what else Joran's father had told us, I can state the following. I cannot remember that at this moment in time.
To your question as to when I last was in Joran's place the last time, I can state the following. I went to his place Wednesday June 8th at approximately 22.45 hours together with my brother Satish.
To your question as to what the purpose of this visit was, I can state the following. First of all because we had no power/electricity at our house and secondly because Joran wanted to see the video of my brother's school trip.
To your question as to who all were at the house, I can state the following. His parents were at the house and his little brother.
To your question as to how late we stayed there, I can state the following. We stayed there until about 02.00 hours in the morning.
To your question whether we had talked to Joran's father that night, I can state the following. We had spoken to him, because he sat down with us.
To your question about what we had talked to him, I can state the following. He had said that there were people from the press outside the door.
To your question as to what more he had said, I can state the following. I do not remember.
(comment reporting officer: at this moment, I, BURKE, asked the suspect D.S. KALPOE as to how it is possible that yesterday he could make statements about stuff that took place a week ago and that he now is unable to remember a conversation from the day before yesterday. The suspect D.S. KALPOE stated that he cannot remember anything, that they had only talked about the people from the media and about the video they were watching).
To your question since when I have my car, I can state the following. I bought the car about two years ago.
To your question whether it was a new of used car, I can state the following. I was a used car.
To your question as to how often I wash my car, I can state the following. Usually the car wash does my car and I do it every two weeks.
To your question whether I washed my car in the past two weeks, I can state the following. I have not washed my car in the past two weeks.
To your question where I park my car at home, I can state the following, at home I park my car with the backside of the car under a tree.
To your question as to how it is possible that my car looks so clean, I can state the following. My car according to me is not clean because if you look at the outside you can see there is mud on the bottom of the car.
To your question whether I can remember the day when I was summoned to the police station at Bubali, I can say the following. Yes I remember that day.
You are telling to me that my car looked very clean on that day. About that I can state the following, I had vacuumed my car the previous day.
To your question as to why I had vacuumed my car the previous day, I can state the following. I thought my car was dirty on the inside there was a lot of sand.
To your question as to how dirty my car was on the inside, I can state the following. There was a lot of sand inside of the car.
To your question as to when I had been to the beach for the last time, I can state the following. I had been to a party on the beach about two or three weeks ago.
To your question as to where the sand came from the day in question that I vacuumed the car, I can state the following. The sand came from Joran, because he had almost fallen into the water and after that he had sat down in my car with sand on his shorts and on his legs.
To your question as to why I vacuumed the car on that Sunday in question, I can state the following. I thought it was dirty.
To your question as to why, after having driven in the car all that time, I chose that particular Sunday to vacuum my car, I can state the following. It is my car, and I can vacuum it when I want. I clean my car when I want to clean it.
To your question whether my brother has been in contact with Joran over the telephone, I can state the following. He has been in contact but I don't know how often.
To your question whether we keep in contact through the computer, I can state the following. Yes we are in contact through the computer.
To your question whether Joran has a girlfriend, I can state the following. Joran had a girlfriend. Joran told me last week that she broke off the relationship.
To your question whether Joran had told me why she had broken off the relationship, I can state the following. Joran has told me that his girlfriend broke off the relationship because of that what had happened with the missing girl.
To your question as to how Joran emotionally acted, I can state the following. He acted normally.
To your question whether Joran has girlfriends or has had girlfriends, I can state the following. I do not know.
To your question whether or not we pick up girls when we go for example to "Carlos & Charlies", I can state the following. Yes, we from time to time pick up girls there.
To your question whether these are local girls or tourists, I can state the following. They are tourists.
To your question as to who is the one who makes the first move towards the girls we are going to pick up, I can state the following. It usually is Joran or another friend with the name Freddy Zedan.
To your question as to what role Joran plays in our circle of friends, I can state the following. He has no real role. We are all the same.
To your question as to where we take the girls we pick up, I can state the following. Sometimes the girls stay at "Carlos & Charlies" or sometimes we take them to their hotel.
To your question was to what exactly happens when we have picked up the girls, I can state the following. Just kissing and dancing.
To your question whether sexual intercourse has happened, I can state the following. Yes, it has happened.
To your question whether it ever happened that all of us, so in one room, had sexual intercourse, I can state the following. It has happened.
To your question whether it ever happened that the three of us had sexual intercourse with a girl, I can state the following. That has never happened.
You are telling me that I made a statement about a Steve yesterday and now you are asking me who Steve is. Steve is a customer who comes to my place of work to internet.
To your question as to what exactly Steve had told me, I can state the following. I was talking to someone on the phone about what had happened and when I hung up the phone Steve said to me that I should not worry because he had seen us dropping off the girl at the hotel, he even saw that she had fallen down and that Joran had helped her up.
To your question as to where Steve was to have been able to see to see all of this, I can state the following. I didn't ask him where he was in order to have seen all of this. He also told me that he had not been into work that day. He instead had been at "Carlos & Charlies" and because of that he was in two minds about going to the police because he feared loosing his job.
To your question as to how I got hold of his mobile phone number, I can state the following. I had asked him for his number and had told him that I would give it to the police if I would get into trouble so that they could call him.
To your question as to how it is possible that I state that Steve was not sure whether he should go to the police or not because he was afraid to loose his job, but that on the night in question, he did go to a public place like "Carlos & Charlies" and on top of that gave me his phone number so that he now can be sent for to testify, I can state the following. You should ask him.
To your question whether Steve knows Joran, I can state the following. Steve does not know Joran.
To your question whether Steve knows my brother, I can state the following.
To your question whether I have spoken to my brother about Steve, I can state the following. I have spoken to everybody about Steve, with my mother, Satish, Joran and Joran's parents.
To your question whether I gave all of them Steve's mobile phone number, I can state the following. No, I kept the number to myself.
To your question as to why I reasonably quickly had an attorney, I can state the following. After we were heard as witnesses, Joran's father said that there would be chance that we were going to be arrested and that we had to prepare for that eventuality.
To you question as to how we prepared ourselves, I can state the following. With preparing I just meant looking for an attorney.
To your question whether I had spoken to my attorney prior to my arrest, I can state the following. Both families had a meeting with the attorneys. So my parents with me and my brother and Joran with his parents.
To your question as to when that had taken place, I can state the following. That took place last Saturday.
To your question as to where it took place, I can state the following. It took place in the offices of my attorney.
To your question whether both families went to one office or to several offices, I can state the following. We all went to the same office at the same time. Our attorney asked us if the statement we had made as witnesses was the truth and said that we should stick to that story.
To your question whether I had ever been in an accident with my car, I can state the following. I had an accident once. I was a rear end collision. I had suffered no injury. The accident happened approximately one month ago.
(Comment reporting officer: the suspect was given a moment to think after I, BURKE, had had a conversation with the suspect "off the record" regarding his age and that he should think of his family and also about his future. After a few minutes the interview was continued. The suspect was asked if he had thought about it, to this he answered that he had been thinking and that he wanted to talk to his attorney first and after that make a more detailed statement. The suspect was prepared to continue with this interview/interrogation. The suspect was also asked to take of his shirt to ascertain that there were no wounds visible on him. None could be seen).
To your question whether me and my brother wash my car together, I can state the following. We did this on a number of occasions.
To you question as to when this happened for the last time, I can state the following. It was a long time ago, I think in February. Because it got busier and busier for me, he did it numerous times on his own.
To your question what I think of this situation/case, I can state the following. I feel tired and sad.
To your question why I feel sad and tired, I can state the following. I feel that because of me my whole family is suffering.
To your question what I mean with suffering, I can state the following. Because I wasn't supposed to go out if I had to go to work on a Monday. If I hadn't gone out, I would not be here. Joran would also not be here because he wouldn't have had a ride.
To your question whether I know why I have been arrested, I can state the following. I am here because you think that we did it.
To your question as to what I mean with "because you think we did it", I can say the following. With this I mean, that she is missing or was kidnapped.
To your question as to what I personally think, I can state the following. I personally do not think she is dead. I think she must be at someones house.
To your question as to how I come to that opinion, I can state the following. They haven't found her body, so she isn't dead.
To your question whether I think that if there is no body there is also no case, I can state the following.
To your question as to how it is possible, that after having been confronted with a security guard that was most likely the one who was at the "Holiday Inn Hotel" in the night it happened, the one about whom I had stated that I could recognise him if I saw him again, I can state the following. The man from today was not the security guard I had seen. The hair of the security guard I saw was different and he had a different body height.
To your question as to how it is possible that there are contradictions in the statements given by me, Satish and Joran, regarding where exactly we stopped in front of the lobby of the hotel, I can state the following. I don't know, I have stated the place where I know I brought the car to a full stop.
(Comment reporting officer: the suspect was informed to take a minute to really think, he requested 2 minutes to have a conversation with his attorney, after which he would make a detailed statement. His request was granted.
(comment reporting officer: after the suspect spoke with his attorney, he stated that he would make a detailed statement tomorrow and that he would read through this statement but that he would not sign it.)
Of this we, ERASMUS and BURKE on our oath as officers have made this proces-verbaal closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 10th 2005.
The reporting officers,
J.M.ERASMUS CA. BURKE
PROCES-VERBAAL (SECOND STATEMENT SUSPECT D.S. KALPOE)
We, Johny Melvis ERASMUS and Clyde Anthony BURKE, respectively officer first class and sergeant first class with the Korps Politie Aruba and assigned to the Section Often Occurring Crime District 2, declare the following.
On June 10th 2005, approximately 13:45 hours we interviewed suspect D.S. KALPOE for further information.
The suspect D.S. KALPOE was informed by me, BURKE, that is was not obliged to make a statement and that his statement would be taped. His statement that was in Dutch was transcribed by me, BURKE, and goes as follows.
"To your question as to how long I know Joran, I can state the following. I know Joran since before carnaval of this year. I think since January 2005.
To your question whether I can describe my friendship with Joran, I can state the following. We go out together, get to know each other. We have become good friends.
To your question as to what kind of person Joran is, I can state the following. Joran is funny, sociable, likes to get to know people and he is easy to get along with.
To your question whether I visit Joran, I can state the following. I often go and visit Joran.
To your question as to how often I visit Joran, I can state the following. I usually visit Joran on the weekends.
To your question whether I some times visit Joran during the week,
I can state the following. It sometimes happens that I go to him during the week.
To your question whether we go out together, I can state the following. We go out together.
To your question as to where we usually go, I can state the following. We usually go to the casino and to "Carlos & Charlies".
To your question as to what is the purpose of going out, I can say the following. The purpose of going out to the casino is making money and going to "Carlos & Charlies" is to go and have a drink and for the good atmosphere.
To your question whether my brother also comes along, I can state the following. My brother always comes along.
To your question as to how the relation is between my brother and Joran, I can state the following. Satish has known Joran longer than me. Their friendship is good.
To your question whether I often have contact with Joran over the phone, I can state the following. Yes, I often have contact with Joran over the phone.
To your question as to how often I have contact with him over the phone, I can state the following. The last two weeks it was daily. Before that it was usually messages.
To your question as to how often I have been in contact with Joran over the phone over the past two weeks, I can state the following. We had contact over the telephone about three to four times a day.
To your question about what we spoke when we were contact over the telephone, I can state the following. We talked about that what had happened and whether his father had information for us about about the thing/matter.
To your question as to why we talked so much about what had occurred, I can state the following. After we were heard as witnesses, we felt involved in what had occurred and also because Joran's father was a judge and he knows a lot of laws and because he thought we could yet be considered to be suspects and arrested.
To your question as to how Joran's dad came to the conclusion I just mentioned, I can state the following. We had told him about the interview, so about the manner we were interviewed.
To your question that if I know that I am innocent, I have nothing to worry about, I can state the following. I am innocent and still I was arrested.
To your question as to what else Joran's father had told us, I can state the following. I cannot remember that at this moment in time.
To your question as to when I last was in Joran's place the last time, I can state the following. I went to his place Wednesday June 8th at approximately 22.45 hours together with my brother Satish.
To your question as to what the purpose of this visit was, I can state the following. First of all because we had no power/electricity at our house and secondly because Joran wanted to see the video of my brother's school trip.
To your question as to who all were at the house, I can state the following. His parents were at the house and his little brother.
To your question as to how late we stayed there, I can state the following. We stayed there until about 02.00 hours in the morning.
To your question whether we had talked to Joran's father that night, I can state the following. We had spoken to him, because he sat down with us.
To your question about what we had talked to him, I can state the following. He had said that there were people from the press outside the door.
To your question as to what more he had said, I can state the following. I do not remember.
(comment reporting officer: at this moment, I, BURKE, asked the suspect D.S. KALPOE as to how it is possible that yesterday he could make statements about stuff that took place a week ago and that he now is unable to remember a conversation from the day before yesterday. The suspect D.S. KALPOE stated that he cannot remember anything, that they had only talked about the people from the media and about the video they were watching).
To your question since when I have my car, I can state the following. I bought the car about two years ago.
To your question whether it was a new of used car, I can state the following. I was a used car.
To your question as to how often I wash my car, I can state the following. Usually the car wash does my car and I do it every two weeks.
To your question whether I washed my car in the past two weeks, I can state the following. I have not washed my car in the past two weeks.
To your question where I park my car at home, I can state the following, at home I park my car with the backside of the car under a tree.
To your question as to how it is possible that my car looks so clean, I can state the following. My car according to me is not clean because if you look at the outside you can see there is mud on the bottom of the car.
To your question whether I can remember the day when I was summoned to the police station at Bubali, I can say the following. Yes I remember that day.
You are telling to me that my car looked very clean on that day. About that I can state the following, I had vacuumed my car the previous day.
To your question as to why I had vacuumed my car the previous day, I can state the following. I thought my car was dirty on the inside there was a lot of sand.
To your question as to how dirty my car was on the inside, I can state the following. There was a lot of sand inside of the car.
To your question as to when I had been to the beach for the last time, I can state the following. I had been to a party on the beach about two or three weeks ago.
To your question as to where the sand came from the day in question that I vacuumed the car, I can state the following. The sand came from Joran, because he had almost fallen into the water and after that he had sat down in my car with sand on his shorts and on his legs.
To your question as to why I vacuumed the car on that Sunday in question, I can state the following. I thought it was dirty.
To your question as to why, after having driven in the car all that time, I chose that particular Sunday to vacuum my car, I can state the following. It is my car, and I can vacuum it when I want. I clean my car when I want to clean it.
To your question whether my brother has been in contact with Joran over the telephone, I can state the following. He has been in contact but I don't know how often.
To your question whether we keep in contact through the computer, I can state the following. Yes we are in contact through the computer.
To your question whether Joran has a girlfriend, I can state the following. Joran had a girlfriend. Joran told me last week that she broke off the relationship.
To your question whether Joran had told me why she had broken off the relationship, I can state the following. Joran has told me that his girlfriend broke off the relationship because of that what had happened with the missing girl.
To your question as to how Joran emotionally acted, I can state the following. He acted normally.
To your question whether Joran has girlfriends or has had girlfriends, I can state the following. I do not know.
To your question whether or not we pick up girls when we go for example to "Carlos & Charlies", I can state the following. Yes, we from time to time pick up girls there.
To your question whether these are local girls or tourists, I can state the following. They are tourists.
To your question as to who is the one who makes the first move towards the girls we are going to pick up, I can state the following. It usually is Joran or another friend with the name Freddy Zedan.
To your question as to what role Joran plays in our circle of friends, I can state the following. He has no real role. We are all the same.
To your question as to where we take the girls we pick up, I can state the following. Sometimes the girls stay at "Carlos & Charlies" or sometimes we take them to their hotel.
To your question was to what exactly happens when we have picked up the girls, I can state the following. Just kissing and dancing.
To your question whether sexual intercourse has happened, I can state the following. Yes, it has happened.
To your question whether it ever happened that all of us, so in one room, had sexual intercourse, I can state the following. It has happened.
To your question whether it ever happened that the three of us had sexual intercourse with a girl, I can state the following. That has never happened.
You are telling me that I made a statement about a Steve yesterday and now you are asking me who Steve is. Steve is a customer who comes to my place of work to internet.
To your question as to what exactly Steve had told me, I can state the following. I was talking to someone on the phone about what had happened and when I hung up the phone Steve said to me that I should not worry because he had seen us dropping off the girl at the hotel, he even saw that she had fallen down and that Joran had helped her up.
To your question as to where Steve was to have been able to see to see all of this, I can state the following. I didn't ask him where he was in order to have seen all of this. He also told me that he had not been into work that day. He instead had been at "Carlos & Charlies" and because of that he was in two minds about going to the police because he feared loosing his job.
To your question as to how I got hold of his mobile phone number, I can state the following. I had asked him for his number and had told him that I would give it to the police if I would get into trouble so that they could call him.
To your question as to how it is possible that I state that Steve was not sure whether he should go to the police or not because he was afraid to loose his job, but that on the night in question, he did go to a public place like "Carlos & Charlies" and on top of that gave me his phone number so that he now can be sent for to testify, I can state the following. You should ask him.
To your question whether Steve knows Joran, I can state the following. Steve does not know Joran.
To your question whether Steve knows my brother, I can state the following.
To your question whether I have spoken to my brother about Steve, I can state the following. I have spoken to everybody about Steve, with my mother, Satish, Joran and Joran's parents.
To your question whether I gave all of them Steve's mobile phone number, I can state the following. No, I kept the number to myself.
To your question as to why I reasonably quickly had an attorney, I can state the following. After we were heard as witnesses, Joran's father said that there would be chance that we were going to be arrested and that we had to prepare for that eventuality.
To you question as to how we prepared ourselves, I can state the following. With preparing I just meant looking for an attorney.
To your question whether I had spoken to my attorney prior to my arrest, I can state the following. Both families had a meeting with the attorneys. So my parents with me and my brother and Joran with his parents.
To your question as to when that had taken place, I can state the following. That took place last Saturday.
To your question as to where it took place, I can state the following. It took place in the offices of my attorney.
To your question whether both families went to one office or to several offices, I can state the following. We all went to the same office at the same time. Our attorney asked us if the statement we had made as witnesses was the truth and said that we should stick to that story.
To your question whether I had ever been in an accident with my car, I can state the following. I had an accident once. I was a rear end collision. I had suffered no injury. The accident happened approximately one month ago.
(Comment reporting officer: the suspect was given a moment to think after I, BURKE, had had a conversation with the suspect "off the record" regarding his age and that he should think of his family and also about his future. After a few minutes the interview was continued. The suspect was asked if he had thought about it, to this he answered that he had been thinking and that he wanted to talk to his attorney first and after that make a more detailed statement. The suspect was prepared to continue with this interview/interrogation. The suspect was also asked to take of his shirt to ascertain that there were no wounds visible on him. None could be seen).
To your question whether me and my brother wash my car together, I can state the following. We did this on a number of occasions.
To you question as to when this happened for the last time, I can state the following. It was a long time ago, I think in February. Because it got busier and busier for me, he did it numerous times on his own.
To your question what I think of this situation/case, I can state the following. I feel tired and sad.
To your question why I feel sad and tired, I can state the following. I feel that because of me my whole family is suffering.
To your question what I mean with suffering, I can state the following. Because I wasn't supposed to go out if I had to go to work on a Monday. If I hadn't gone out, I would not be here. Joran would also not be here because he wouldn't have had a ride.
To your question whether I know why I have been arrested, I can state the following. I am here because you think that we did it.
To your question as to what I mean with "because you think we did it", I can say the following. With this I mean, that she is missing or was kidnapped.
To your question as to what I personally think, I can state the following. I personally do not think she is dead. I think she must be at someones house.
To your question as to how I come to that opinion, I can state the following. They haven't found her body, so she isn't dead.
To your question whether I think that if there is no body there is also no case, I can state the following.
To your question as to how it is possible, that after having been confronted with a security guard that was most likely the one who was at the "Holiday Inn Hotel" in the night it happened, the one about whom I had stated that I could recognise him if I saw him again, I can state the following. The man from today was not the security guard I had seen. The hair of the security guard I saw was different and he had a different body height.
To your question as to how it is possible that there are contradictions in the statements given by me, Satish and Joran, regarding where exactly we stopped in front of the lobby of the hotel, I can state the following. I don't know, I have stated the place where I know I brought the car to a full stop.
(Comment reporting officer: the suspect was informed to take a minute to really think, he requested 2 minutes to have a conversation with his attorney, after which he would make a detailed statement. His request was granted.
(comment reporting officer: after the suspect spoke with his attorney, he stated that he would make a detailed statement tomorrow and that he would read through this statement but that he would not sign it.)
Of this we, ERASMUS and BURKE on our oath as officers have made this proces-verbaal closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 10th 2005.
The reporting officers,
J.M.ERASMUS CA. BURKE
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Deepak, June 11
PROCES-VERBAAL
We, Clyde Anthony BURKE and Shaniro Baldrik KELLY, respectively sergeant first class and sergeant with the Korps Politie Aruba and both attached to the section Often Occurring Crimes District II, declare the following.
On June 11th 2005 at about 12:10 hours, we, the reporting officers, interviewed the suspect D.S. KALPOE, for further information.
Before the interview/interrogation started the suspect D.S. KALPOE was informed that he was not obliged to answer the questions. and that his statement would be recorded on videotape.
The statement he made in dutch was transcribed and goes as follows.
"I am now willing to make a statement that is in accordance with the truth. Several details were missing from my last statement. I am going to tell you exactly what happened that night. On Sunday May 29th 2005 at approximately 21:50 hours, I was called by my friend Joran. He said that he was in the vicinity of the Mc. Donalds on Palm Beach and that he was waiting for his father. He further told me that he had met girls in the casino and that these girls would be going to "Carlos & Charlie's" and whether I wanted to go with him. I said that it was OK/fine and that I was going to go home for a short while and that after that I would pick him up at his place. I was picked up by my brother Satïsh at the place where I work. We then went to the "Taco Bell" in Santa Cruz. There we bought something to eat and after that we drove home. On the way home I was bitten by ants in the car. I had told my brother that when we got back home, we should clean the car because if there were going to be girls in the car they would be bitten by ants too.
To your question whether we had agreed that there were going to be girls in the car, I can say the following. We had not agreed anything, but I just thought that just in case that would happen.
After we ate me and my brother cleaned the car. I was called by Joran again at approximately 23:10 hours. He asked if we were still coming. I told him that we would be there shortly, I took a bath and then me and my brother went in the direction of Joran's place. I was sitting behind the wheel. Having arrived at Joran's we had to wait for him. We arrived at Joran's at approximately 24:00 hours. Joran was still busy printing a school assignment..
To your question as to whether Joran, while we were sitting there, commented or made any remarks about the girls he met in the casino, I can say the following. Joran had said he met a few girls in the casino, that they were pretty and that he would meet them inside "Carlos & Charlies".
To your question whether he mentioned the names of the girls, I can say the following. He named no names.
We left Joran's place between 00:15 and 00:20 hours for "Carlos & Charlies". At that time my brother was driving. I was in the front seat and Joran was in the back. We arrived at "Carlos & Charlies" at approximately 00:30. My brother had parked the car on the parking lot behind "Carlos & Charlie's". We then walked towards "Carlos & Charlies". In front of "Carlos & Charlie's there was a group of girls. Joran had noticed that these girls were also part of the group he met at the casino. Joran had greeted the girls and then we walked into "Carlos & Charlie's. When we got inside we walked to the bar. At the bar Joran talked to a boy I know by face only. He had bought a drink for him and the boy. The drink is called "Carribean Motherfucker".
To your question as to what kind of drink that is, I can say the following. This drink is beer with a shot of "151" vodka in a small glass inside the glass of beer. Joran had asked us if we wanted one too, we hadn't taken him up on his offer. Then he had bought us three "Yards" with whisky coke. He payed for the drinks. We then walked towards the stage/podium. We stood in front of the podium. On the podium there was a group of girls that were dancing. One of the girls made a hand gesture towards Joran, inviting him to come and dance with her. Joran gestured back no. After about three minutes the girl came down from the podium towards Joran. I heard her ask him why he hadn't come up and danced with her. Joran answered something but I hadn't heard what he had said. The girl took him by the hands to get him onto the dance floor. But Joran pulled back his hands. Then they stayed and talked to each other. I didn't hear the conversation, because at that moment a friend of mine came over to talk to me. I had turned around and talked to my friend. After a while I turned around and noticed that Satish, Joran and the girl Natalee were no longer where I had last seen them standing last. I then searched for them in the club but without a positive result. Then I went to look near the bathrooms. I also didn't find them there, I then used the bathroom myself. After I walked out of the bathroom, I called Joran on his mobile phone. He did not answer. I walked to the parking lot where my car was parked. When I arrived at my car I sat on the ground next to my car, because my brother had the keys. I then called my brother on his mobile phone. I had very few minutes left on my pre-paid phone so I called him in a manner that produces what in English is called a "miss call". After that my brother phoned me back, I asked him where they were and he said that they were still inside and that he would come. After a while Satish came walking, I asked him where Joran was and he said that Joran was still inside. I told Satish to give me the keys and to go find Joran. Satish left and I got into my car. I stayed inside of the car with the door open. I had one leg outside the car and I was playing music and adjusting my radio set-up. After a while I heard the door on the passenger side open. I saw that it was Satish getting into the car. Joran opened the door behind Satish and also got in. I cannot remember if the girl got into the same car door. I do know that she sat down behind me. I briefly turned around and introduced myself to the girl. She had told me that her name was Natalee.
To your question whether Satish was introduced to the girl or whether he introduced himself, I can say the following. He did not introduce himself to the girl and also wasn't introduced to her. I had turned back and switched on the lights of my car. After that I turned around again and asked Joran in Papiamentu: "kiko nos ta hasi" (loosely translated by reporting officer to the "what are we going to do now"). Joran had answered in Papiamentu "Core rond". (loosely translated by reporting officer: "drive around"). I had driven past the front of "Carlos and Charlies" twice. When we came to the end of our second drive around I saw the people of the "Visibility Team" stand on the corner of the road that lead in front of the afore mentioned establishment. I decided to turn left into the Weststraat in the direction of "Choose a Name". On the corner of L.G. SMITH and the Weststraat I saw a group of people standing there. The girl stuck her head out of the window and yelled something. I had not heard what she had yelled.
As to your question if I recognised anyone from this group, I can say the following. It was the same group I had seen outside of "Carlos & Charlie". I also remember a boy that walked up to the car and said to Natalee in English "Get out of the car. What are you doing there. Are you crazy" (loosely translated by reporting officer: Get out of the car. What are you doing there. Are you crazy). I then drove a little further and stopped in front of the pedestrian crossing near the "Royal Plaza". I had then said to the girl that if your friends think it is better that you go with them, you'd better do that. The girl had said to me that no I am staying with you guys. I then called Joran by his name. He did not answer. He was talking to the girl. I called out to Joran again but now a bit louder. He then said, keep on driving. I then drove in the direction of "Caya G.F. Betico CROES". After that I drove in the direction of the "Renaissance Hotel". There I turned onto L.G. SMITH Boulevard. I proceeded to drive in a Westerly direction. I drove on until we got to the intersection where I had last seen her friends. When we arrived there I saw that they were no longer there. I asked Joran what were were going to do now. The girl said at some point something about "Sharks" and "Lighthouse". That is what I had heard. Joran then said "Lighthouse". I knew at that moment that I had to drive to the "Lighthouse". I rolled up the windows and put the air conditioning on and drove towards the "Lighthouse".
On the way to the "Lighthouse" me and my brother sat in front and talked and Joran and the girl were in the back and talked. I could not hear what they were talking about. At approximately where the "La Cabana Hotel" was, Satish popped in a DVD that had nude scenes in it. The girl said in English "Oh my God, whats that" (loosely translated by reporting officer: Oh my God, What is that). I then said to Joran in English: "Now she is going to think that we're perverts (loosely translated by reporting officer: Now the girls is going to think we are perverts). After a while Joran said to Satish in Dutch. "Switch off the DVD, she has had enough of it. Satish had done what he requested/asked. I had been driving on, towards Arashi. When I arrived at Arashi I stopped the car on the asphalted section. I got out because I had to take a leak. After that I got back in and we drove towards the "Lighthouse". Having arrived at the "Lighthouse" I drove into the road and drove past the front of the restaurant. When we drove past the front I said, here we are this is the "Lighthouse". Nobody answered me. At some point I looked into the rear view mirror and saw that Joran and the girl were French kissing. I had not seen that Joran's hands were under the girls skirt. I only saw him kissing her. I looked at my brother Satish. He said keep on driving. After that I continued in the direction from which we just came. I saw a little farther up the road, at about where the Lighthouse is, a green jeep and a four door, white car. After that I drove down the road towards Arashi. Having arrived on the Smith Boulevard, on the section of road that has no street lights, I asked Joran if I should head back to town. Joran said no, no, let me out here. That was in the vicinity of the "Marriot Hotel". I asked, where is here. He said here. I turned into a side street. To your question as to what kind of a road it was, I can say the following. I am not sure if it was a sand/dirt road or a paved road. I am willing to show you where the street is that I just mentioned.
To your question as to how far I drove into the afore mentioned street, I can say the following, I think I drove about 55 yards into that street. Joran said that I could leave him there. After that I brought my car to a full stop. Joran got out first and then the girl. He said: Fine, I will see you tomorrow. I then asked him how he would get home. He said that he would find a way to get home. I said, and the girl. He answered, I will drop her off at the "Holiday Inn Hotel", we will walk along the beach and it is very close by. I had asked him, are you sure. He answered yes, I will see you tomorrow. I do remember that I saw them walking away hand in hand. I drove out of the street to get back onto the road and then drove towards my house. I do remember that in front of the "Marriot Hotel" Satish asked me to stop for a minute. I did what he asked me, Satish rolled down his window and threw out the two "Yards". After that we drove until we got to the roundabout near "Texaco Sasakr". At the roundabout I headed due east towards my house at Hooiberg.
To your question as to how late we got home, I can say the following. We arrived home approximately 02.20 hours.
When we got home Satish immediately went to bed. I had switched on the television. I had also turned on the computer in my room. I went and chatted with a friend of mine on "MSN". His name is John Charles CROES. I had told the afore mentioned CROES during the chat that we had gone out and that I was waiting for a friend of mine because I had dropped him off on the street together with a girl.
To your question as to why I was waiting for Joran, I can say the following. We always do that if one of us has stayed on the street, we wait. To your question as to what does that waiting comprises of, I can say the following. Waiting means that we call each other and say everything is fine.
After having chatted with John I went into the living room and watched TV. Between 02.45 and 03.15 hours, I cannot remember the exact time it was, Joran phoned me. He asked me what I was doing. I answered that I was watching television. I asked him, and you? He answered that at moment in time he was walking home. I then said to him, you see if you had stayed with me, you could have gotten a ride home. I then asked him, and how did it go. He said to me, no man, we just briefly went into the water. After that according to Joran the girl had fallen asleep on the beach. He said he had left her there. He did not say to me where this all took place. At that point I got angry at Joran and asked him, why he left that girl on the beach. After that he said that he was walking home barefoot. I then said, what do you mean, you are walking home barefoot and I asked him where his sneakers/sport shoes were. He answered that he had left his sneakers/sport shoes at the beach. I had told him that at that moment I didn't understand what he was talking about, but that if he got home he should call me. After that I sent him a message via the M.A.S. System of SETAR. The message said: when you get home you should come online. I am waiting for you and after that I am going to sleep.
To your question whether Joran had told me if they had gone into the water or just walked along the water's edge I can say the following. He did not tell me.
To you question as to how long me and Joran talked when he had phoned me, I can say the following. I estimate that we talked about 4 to 5 minutes. We also talked about whether I would go to work the next day and other stuff.
After that I went back to "chatting" on the computer with my friend John. I had told John that I needed to wait up for Joran and that he was walking home.. John had noted that it was good for Joran because if he had driven with me, he wouldn't have to walk home now.
I went to the bathroom for a while. When I got back I could see that Joran had been "online". He had sent me several messages. The messages were, I am already here and thanks for waiting, I will see you tomorrow..
After a while I went to sleep.
To your question whether I had been in contact with Joran that day, I can state the following. On that day, after I woke up, I had called Joran at approximately 18.00 hours. I just asked him how he was. Joran was at that moment in time together with a friend of us named Guido in the casino at "Wyndham". I said that it was OK and that I would talk to him later. Before I finished working, I had called him again. He said that at that time he was in the casino of the "Radisson Hotel". I said that I would come bye there.
Satish came and picked me up from work at approximately 23:10 hours at my place of work. I had brought Satish home because he had school the following day and also because my mother had been angry because we had stayed out late that day and that Satish hadn't gone to school. I then went to the "Radisson Hotel". When I arrived there I met up with Joran, Guido and Andre. Joran was playing in a poker tournament. I sat and watched. Joran was pretty inebriated that evening. We stayed there and played for about 2 hours after I arrived. I had arrived there at approximately 00;00 hours. At some point there was an verbal altercation between a tourist and Joran. The tourist was of the opinion that we were helping Joran. We said to Joran that it was better if we left. We then left. Guido left to take Andre home and me and Joran went to the "Wyndham" hotel11. I wanted to play blackjack. When we arrived at the "Wyndham", while I was parking Joran received a telephone call on his mobile. He spoke to a person. I heard him say the name Paul. I assumed that he was talking to his father. Because I know his father's name is Paul. After the conversation Joran said to me that it had been his father calling and that he told him that there was police at their house and that it was about the girl that we had been out with the previous night. Paul also said to Joran that we should stay put and that he would come to pick us up. Joran had misunderstood that and we drove to his house. At that moment I heard Joran say "What the fuck is up with/wrong with this bitch". Then he said to me that if the police should ask anything that we should say the following: That we left together with the girl from "Carlos & Charlie's", that we drove around, that Joran kissed and fingered her, that she fell asleep in the car and that we had taken her to the hotel.
When we arrived at Joran's house nobody was there. At that point I then used Joran's mobile phone to call my brother. I had told my brother Satish what he should tell the police if they came over there. Meaning the story that Joran had just told me.
When I got home I told Satish about the security guard. Meaning that he should add that piece to the story.
To your question as to where the story with the security guard came into the picture, I can say the following. I had made-up that part of the story.
To your question whether I had thought about telling the truth that night, I can say the following. I had not told the truth because first of all Joran had asked me not to, he is my friend and I was afraid of the police because I thought that I would get into trouble with the police.
To your question as to how Joran was on the day that we went to "Carlos & Charlies", I can say the following. He was sociable, not aggressive. In one word sociable. I do not know how much he had to drink.
To your question how Natalee was that night in "Carlos & Charlies", I can say the following. She danced beautifully, I had lied in my previous statement about her being unsteady on her feet when she stepped off the podium/stage. That was beside the truth. She had a steady walk. In my opinion she was reasonably sober/"with it".
11(footnote reporting officer: at approximately 13:25 hours the interview was halted because the suspect had to be arraigned with the District Attorney and this had to be review by the Judge Commissioner)
I just remembered something. If Joran says that we took him home, then that is not based on the truth. Because he had sent me a message that said that he when he got home he would get online. You should check my mobile phone to see if the message is still in there.
I also have to tell you that Joran was wearing white sneakers/sport shoes that night. If you search his home then you will see/find that the shoes aren't there. He had told me that he had left them on the beach.
To your question whether I know if Joran told the story to someone else, than I can say the following. I know Joran told his story to his friend named Freddy ZEDAN. Freddy lives behind Joran. His mobile phone number is in my mobile phone.
To your question whether Joran told me what he had told Freddy, I can say the following. Joran told me that he had told Freddy the truth and the made up story. I know that he trusts Freddy more because they have known each other for a long time. If you go and talk to Freddy, he will tell you the made up story and maybe also the truth.
To your question as to what I think the part of Joran's fathers was in this case, I can say the following. Truth be told I think he believed the story we had told him. He had then looked for a lawyer for me and my brother.
To your question as to what Joran's father had advised us, I can say the following. He told us that if we were to be arrested that we should remain calm and not come up with a different story.
I am also prepared to drive with you the route we drove that night in question. I am also prepared to show you the spot where we dropped off Joran and the girl.
To your question whether I can make detailed statements about the conversations that were happening while we were driving this route, I can say the following. I did hear some things. I heard the girl say something about sharks and "Lighthouse". The comment she made about the videoclip. Joran had told me two days later that the girl had asked him whether me and my brother had been his slaves. The girl had told Joran that she was from Alabama, and that she didn't like people of dark colour and that they owned a farm and that the people working on their farm were all of dark colour.
To your question whether the girl had made racist comment to us, I can say the following. The girl had not made a comment along those lines to us.
To your question as to how I think about Joran making statements against me and my brother, I can say the following. I think he that he did this to blame the whole thing on us.
To your question as to what I think happened to the girl or what Joran did to her, I can say the following, I think that he raped her and is afraid to state that. I don't think he murdered her.
To your question as to why I think he has raped her, I can say the following. I think that because he doesn't want to tell the truth. That is the only reason I can think of.
To your question whether Joran could have been involved with a rape some time before, I can say the following. I do not know. My brother told me once that a girl had said that she had been impregnated by Joran. I do not know what happened after that.
To your question whether the statement I have just made is entirely in accordance with the truth, I can say the following. My statement is in accordance with the truth. I swear to you that this is the truth.
My wish is that before I sign my statement, I am allowed to read through it with my lawyer.
After the suspect D.S. KALPOE read the above transcribed statement, he said he would persist in that statement and signed the statement.
Of which, we, the reporting officers on our oat as officers have made his proces-verbaal, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 11 2005.
PROCES-VERBAAL
We, Clyde Anthony BURKE and Shaniro Baldrik KELLY, respectively sergeant first class and sergeant with the Korps Politie Aruba and both attached to the section Often Occurring Crimes District II, declare the following.
On June 11th 2005 at about 12:10 hours, we, the reporting officers, interviewed the suspect D.S. KALPOE, for further information.
Before the interview/interrogation started the suspect D.S. KALPOE was informed that he was not obliged to answer the questions. and that his statement would be recorded on videotape.
The statement he made in dutch was transcribed and goes as follows.
"I am now willing to make a statement that is in accordance with the truth. Several details were missing from my last statement. I am going to tell you exactly what happened that night. On Sunday May 29th 2005 at approximately 21:50 hours, I was called by my friend Joran. He said that he was in the vicinity of the Mc. Donalds on Palm Beach and that he was waiting for his father. He further told me that he had met girls in the casino and that these girls would be going to "Carlos & Charlie's" and whether I wanted to go with him. I said that it was OK/fine and that I was going to go home for a short while and that after that I would pick him up at his place. I was picked up by my brother Satïsh at the place where I work. We then went to the "Taco Bell" in Santa Cruz. There we bought something to eat and after that we drove home. On the way home I was bitten by ants in the car. I had told my brother that when we got back home, we should clean the car because if there were going to be girls in the car they would be bitten by ants too.
To your question whether we had agreed that there were going to be girls in the car, I can say the following. We had not agreed anything, but I just thought that just in case that would happen.
After we ate me and my brother cleaned the car. I was called by Joran again at approximately 23:10 hours. He asked if we were still coming. I told him that we would be there shortly, I took a bath and then me and my brother went in the direction of Joran's place. I was sitting behind the wheel. Having arrived at Joran's we had to wait for him. We arrived at Joran's at approximately 24:00 hours. Joran was still busy printing a school assignment..
To your question as to whether Joran, while we were sitting there, commented or made any remarks about the girls he met in the casino, I can say the following. Joran had said he met a few girls in the casino, that they were pretty and that he would meet them inside "Carlos & Charlies".
To your question whether he mentioned the names of the girls, I can say the following. He named no names.
We left Joran's place between 00:15 and 00:20 hours for "Carlos & Charlies". At that time my brother was driving. I was in the front seat and Joran was in the back. We arrived at "Carlos & Charlies" at approximately 00:30. My brother had parked the car on the parking lot behind "Carlos & Charlie's". We then walked towards "Carlos & Charlies". In front of "Carlos & Charlie's there was a group of girls. Joran had noticed that these girls were also part of the group he met at the casino. Joran had greeted the girls and then we walked into "Carlos & Charlie's. When we got inside we walked to the bar. At the bar Joran talked to a boy I know by face only. He had bought a drink for him and the boy. The drink is called "Carribean Motherfucker".
To your question as to what kind of drink that is, I can say the following. This drink is beer with a shot of "151" vodka in a small glass inside the glass of beer. Joran had asked us if we wanted one too, we hadn't taken him up on his offer. Then he had bought us three "Yards" with whisky coke. He payed for the drinks. We then walked towards the stage/podium. We stood in front of the podium. On the podium there was a group of girls that were dancing. One of the girls made a hand gesture towards Joran, inviting him to come and dance with her. Joran gestured back no. After about three minutes the girl came down from the podium towards Joran. I heard her ask him why he hadn't come up and danced with her. Joran answered something but I hadn't heard what he had said. The girl took him by the hands to get him onto the dance floor. But Joran pulled back his hands. Then they stayed and talked to each other. I didn't hear the conversation, because at that moment a friend of mine came over to talk to me. I had turned around and talked to my friend. After a while I turned around and noticed that Satish, Joran and the girl Natalee were no longer where I had last seen them standing last. I then searched for them in the club but without a positive result. Then I went to look near the bathrooms. I also didn't find them there, I then used the bathroom myself. After I walked out of the bathroom, I called Joran on his mobile phone. He did not answer. I walked to the parking lot where my car was parked. When I arrived at my car I sat on the ground next to my car, because my brother had the keys. I then called my brother on his mobile phone. I had very few minutes left on my pre-paid phone so I called him in a manner that produces what in English is called a "miss call". After that my brother phoned me back, I asked him where they were and he said that they were still inside and that he would come. After a while Satish came walking, I asked him where Joran was and he said that Joran was still inside. I told Satish to give me the keys and to go find Joran. Satish left and I got into my car. I stayed inside of the car with the door open. I had one leg outside the car and I was playing music and adjusting my radio set-up. After a while I heard the door on the passenger side open. I saw that it was Satish getting into the car. Joran opened the door behind Satish and also got in. I cannot remember if the girl got into the same car door. I do know that she sat down behind me. I briefly turned around and introduced myself to the girl. She had told me that her name was Natalee.
To your question whether Satish was introduced to the girl or whether he introduced himself, I can say the following. He did not introduce himself to the girl and also wasn't introduced to her. I had turned back and switched on the lights of my car. After that I turned around again and asked Joran in Papiamentu: "kiko nos ta hasi" (loosely translated by reporting officer to the "what are we going to do now"). Joran had answered in Papiamentu "Core rond". (loosely translated by reporting officer: "drive around"). I had driven past the front of "Carlos and Charlies" twice. When we came to the end of our second drive around I saw the people of the "Visibility Team" stand on the corner of the road that lead in front of the afore mentioned establishment. I decided to turn left into the Weststraat in the direction of "Choose a Name". On the corner of L.G. SMITH and the Weststraat I saw a group of people standing there. The girl stuck her head out of the window and yelled something. I had not heard what she had yelled.
As to your question if I recognised anyone from this group, I can say the following. It was the same group I had seen outside of "Carlos & Charlie". I also remember a boy that walked up to the car and said to Natalee in English "Get out of the car. What are you doing there. Are you crazy" (loosely translated by reporting officer: Get out of the car. What are you doing there. Are you crazy). I then drove a little further and stopped in front of the pedestrian crossing near the "Royal Plaza". I had then said to the girl that if your friends think it is better that you go with them, you'd better do that. The girl had said to me that no I am staying with you guys. I then called Joran by his name. He did not answer. He was talking to the girl. I called out to Joran again but now a bit louder. He then said, keep on driving. I then drove in the direction of "Caya G.F. Betico CROES". After that I drove in the direction of the "Renaissance Hotel". There I turned onto L.G. SMITH Boulevard. I proceeded to drive in a Westerly direction. I drove on until we got to the intersection where I had last seen her friends. When we arrived there I saw that they were no longer there. I asked Joran what were were going to do now. The girl said at some point something about "Sharks" and "Lighthouse". That is what I had heard. Joran then said "Lighthouse". I knew at that moment that I had to drive to the "Lighthouse". I rolled up the windows and put the air conditioning on and drove towards the "Lighthouse".
On the way to the "Lighthouse" me and my brother sat in front and talked and Joran and the girl were in the back and talked. I could not hear what they were talking about. At approximately where the "La Cabana Hotel" was, Satish popped in a DVD that had nude scenes in it. The girl said in English "Oh my God, whats that" (loosely translated by reporting officer: Oh my God, What is that). I then said to Joran in English: "Now she is going to think that we're perverts (loosely translated by reporting officer: Now the girls is going to think we are perverts). After a while Joran said to Satish in Dutch. "Switch off the DVD, she has had enough of it. Satish had done what he requested/asked. I had been driving on, towards Arashi. When I arrived at Arashi I stopped the car on the asphalted section. I got out because I had to take a leak. After that I got back in and we drove towards the "Lighthouse". Having arrived at the "Lighthouse" I drove into the road and drove past the front of the restaurant. When we drove past the front I said, here we are this is the "Lighthouse". Nobody answered me. At some point I looked into the rear view mirror and saw that Joran and the girl were French kissing. I had not seen that Joran's hands were under the girls skirt. I only saw him kissing her. I looked at my brother Satish. He said keep on driving. After that I continued in the direction from which we just came. I saw a little farther up the road, at about where the Lighthouse is, a green jeep and a four door, white car. After that I drove down the road towards Arashi. Having arrived on the Smith Boulevard, on the section of road that has no street lights, I asked Joran if I should head back to town. Joran said no, no, let me out here. That was in the vicinity of the "Marriot Hotel". I asked, where is here. He said here. I turned into a side street. To your question as to what kind of a road it was, I can say the following. I am not sure if it was a sand/dirt road or a paved road. I am willing to show you where the street is that I just mentioned.
To your question as to how far I drove into the afore mentioned street, I can say the following, I think I drove about 55 yards into that street. Joran said that I could leave him there. After that I brought my car to a full stop. Joran got out first and then the girl. He said: Fine, I will see you tomorrow. I then asked him how he would get home. He said that he would find a way to get home. I said, and the girl. He answered, I will drop her off at the "Holiday Inn Hotel", we will walk along the beach and it is very close by. I had asked him, are you sure. He answered yes, I will see you tomorrow. I do remember that I saw them walking away hand in hand. I drove out of the street to get back onto the road and then drove towards my house. I do remember that in front of the "Marriot Hotel" Satish asked me to stop for a minute. I did what he asked me, Satish rolled down his window and threw out the two "Yards". After that we drove until we got to the roundabout near "Texaco Sasakr". At the roundabout I headed due east towards my house at Hooiberg.
To your question as to how late we got home, I can say the following. We arrived home approximately 02.20 hours.
When we got home Satish immediately went to bed. I had switched on the television. I had also turned on the computer in my room. I went and chatted with a friend of mine on "MSN". His name is John Charles CROES. I had told the afore mentioned CROES during the chat that we had gone out and that I was waiting for a friend of mine because I had dropped him off on the street together with a girl.
To your question as to why I was waiting for Joran, I can say the following. We always do that if one of us has stayed on the street, we wait. To your question as to what does that waiting comprises of, I can say the following. Waiting means that we call each other and say everything is fine.
After having chatted with John I went into the living room and watched TV. Between 02.45 and 03.15 hours, I cannot remember the exact time it was, Joran phoned me. He asked me what I was doing. I answered that I was watching television. I asked him, and you? He answered that at moment in time he was walking home. I then said to him, you see if you had stayed with me, you could have gotten a ride home. I then asked him, and how did it go. He said to me, no man, we just briefly went into the water. After that according to Joran the girl had fallen asleep on the beach. He said he had left her there. He did not say to me where this all took place. At that point I got angry at Joran and asked him, why he left that girl on the beach. After that he said that he was walking home barefoot. I then said, what do you mean, you are walking home barefoot and I asked him where his sneakers/sport shoes were. He answered that he had left his sneakers/sport shoes at the beach. I had told him that at that moment I didn't understand what he was talking about, but that if he got home he should call me. After that I sent him a message via the M.A.S. System of SETAR. The message said: when you get home you should come online. I am waiting for you and after that I am going to sleep.
To your question whether Joran had told me if they had gone into the water or just walked along the water's edge I can say the following. He did not tell me.
To you question as to how long me and Joran talked when he had phoned me, I can say the following. I estimate that we talked about 4 to 5 minutes. We also talked about whether I would go to work the next day and other stuff.
After that I went back to "chatting" on the computer with my friend John. I had told John that I needed to wait up for Joran and that he was walking home.. John had noted that it was good for Joran because if he had driven with me, he wouldn't have to walk home now.
I went to the bathroom for a while. When I got back I could see that Joran had been "online". He had sent me several messages. The messages were, I am already here and thanks for waiting, I will see you tomorrow..
After a while I went to sleep.
To your question whether I had been in contact with Joran that day, I can state the following. On that day, after I woke up, I had called Joran at approximately 18.00 hours. I just asked him how he was. Joran was at that moment in time together with a friend of us named Guido in the casino at "Wyndham". I said that it was OK and that I would talk to him later. Before I finished working, I had called him again. He said that at that time he was in the casino of the "Radisson Hotel". I said that I would come bye there.
Satish came and picked me up from work at approximately 23:10 hours at my place of work. I had brought Satish home because he had school the following day and also because my mother had been angry because we had stayed out late that day and that Satish hadn't gone to school. I then went to the "Radisson Hotel". When I arrived there I met up with Joran, Guido and Andre. Joran was playing in a poker tournament. I sat and watched. Joran was pretty inebriated that evening. We stayed there and played for about 2 hours after I arrived. I had arrived there at approximately 00;00 hours. At some point there was an verbal altercation between a tourist and Joran. The tourist was of the opinion that we were helping Joran. We said to Joran that it was better if we left. We then left. Guido left to take Andre home and me and Joran went to the "Wyndham" hotel11. I wanted to play blackjack. When we arrived at the "Wyndham", while I was parking Joran received a telephone call on his mobile. He spoke to a person. I heard him say the name Paul. I assumed that he was talking to his father. Because I know his father's name is Paul. After the conversation Joran said to me that it had been his father calling and that he told him that there was police at their house and that it was about the girl that we had been out with the previous night. Paul also said to Joran that we should stay put and that he would come to pick us up. Joran had misunderstood that and we drove to his house. At that moment I heard Joran say "What the fuck is up with/wrong with this bitch". Then he said to me that if the police should ask anything that we should say the following: That we left together with the girl from "Carlos & Charlie's", that we drove around, that Joran kissed and fingered her, that she fell asleep in the car and that we had taken her to the hotel.
When we arrived at Joran's house nobody was there. At that point I then used Joran's mobile phone to call my brother. I had told my brother Satish what he should tell the police if they came over there. Meaning the story that Joran had just told me.
When I got home I told Satish about the security guard. Meaning that he should add that piece to the story.
To your question as to where the story with the security guard came into the picture, I can say the following. I had made-up that part of the story.
To your question whether I had thought about telling the truth that night, I can say the following. I had not told the truth because first of all Joran had asked me not to, he is my friend and I was afraid of the police because I thought that I would get into trouble with the police.
To your question as to how Joran was on the day that we went to "Carlos & Charlies", I can say the following. He was sociable, not aggressive. In one word sociable. I do not know how much he had to drink.
To your question how Natalee was that night in "Carlos & Charlies", I can say the following. She danced beautifully, I had lied in my previous statement about her being unsteady on her feet when she stepped off the podium/stage. That was beside the truth. She had a steady walk. In my opinion she was reasonably sober/"with it".
11(footnote reporting officer: at approximately 13:25 hours the interview was halted because the suspect had to be arraigned with the District Attorney and this had to be review by the Judge Commissioner)
I just remembered something. If Joran says that we took him home, then that is not based on the truth. Because he had sent me a message that said that he when he got home he would get online. You should check my mobile phone to see if the message is still in there.
I also have to tell you that Joran was wearing white sneakers/sport shoes that night. If you search his home then you will see/find that the shoes aren't there. He had told me that he had left them on the beach.
To your question whether I know if Joran told the story to someone else, than I can say the following. I know Joran told his story to his friend named Freddy ZEDAN. Freddy lives behind Joran. His mobile phone number is in my mobile phone.
To your question whether Joran told me what he had told Freddy, I can say the following. Joran told me that he had told Freddy the truth and the made up story. I know that he trusts Freddy more because they have known each other for a long time. If you go and talk to Freddy, he will tell you the made up story and maybe also the truth.
To your question as to what I think the part of Joran's fathers was in this case, I can say the following. Truth be told I think he believed the story we had told him. He had then looked for a lawyer for me and my brother.
To your question as to what Joran's father had advised us, I can say the following. He told us that if we were to be arrested that we should remain calm and not come up with a different story.
I am also prepared to drive with you the route we drove that night in question. I am also prepared to show you the spot where we dropped off Joran and the girl.
To your question whether I can make detailed statements about the conversations that were happening while we were driving this route, I can say the following. I did hear some things. I heard the girl say something about sharks and "Lighthouse". The comment she made about the videoclip. Joran had told me two days later that the girl had asked him whether me and my brother had been his slaves. The girl had told Joran that she was from Alabama, and that she didn't like people of dark colour and that they owned a farm and that the people working on their farm were all of dark colour.
To your question whether the girl had made racist comment to us, I can say the following. The girl had not made a comment along those lines to us.
To your question as to how I think about Joran making statements against me and my brother, I can say the following. I think he that he did this to blame the whole thing on us.
To your question as to what I think happened to the girl or what Joran did to her, I can say the following, I think that he raped her and is afraid to state that. I don't think he murdered her.
To your question as to why I think he has raped her, I can say the following. I think that because he doesn't want to tell the truth. That is the only reason I can think of.
To your question whether Joran could have been involved with a rape some time before, I can say the following. I do not know. My brother told me once that a girl had said that she had been impregnated by Joran. I do not know what happened after that.
To your question whether the statement I have just made is entirely in accordance with the truth, I can say the following. My statement is in accordance with the truth. I swear to you that this is the truth.
My wish is that before I sign my statement, I am allowed to read through it with my lawyer.
After the suspect D.S. KALPOE read the above transcribed statement, he said he would persist in that statement and signed the statement.
Of which, we, the reporting officers on our oat as officers have made his proces-verbaal, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 11 2005.
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Deepak June 13
PROCES-VERBAAL
Statement Suspect D.S. KALPOE
We, Clyde Anthony BURKE and Shaniro Baldrik KELLY, respectively sergeant first class and sergeant with the Korps Politie Aruba and both detached to the section Often occurring crimes District 11, declare the following.
On June 13th 2005 at about 10:20 hours, we, the reporting officers, interviewed the suspect D.S. KALPOE, for further information..
Before the interview/interrogation started the suspect D.S. KALPOE was informed that he was not obliged to answer the questions. and that his statement would be recorded on videotape.
The statement he made in dutch was transcribed and went as follows.
"To your question as to what I did on Monday June 30th 2005, I will say the following.
On that Monday in question, I woke up around 13.30 hours.
When I got out of my room, I saw that Satish had also come out of his room. Our mother came up to us and was angry and talked to us about the fact that we went out and that Satish now hadn't gone to school. I walked through the living room and had turned on the television. My brother joined me there and we watched the television. At some point I got up and went to my mother and asked her if the school of Satish had indeed called about him. After this I went back to my room and switched on the computer.
I immediately went on "msn" and started chatting with my boss and my co-worker. It is a habit of mine that I switch on my computer and go to “msn” when I get home. After that I left my room and bathed. After this I ate. At about 15.30 hours, my brother drove me to work with my car because I do not want to park my car in the parking lot/parking space. After that I started working.
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At about 18.00 hours, I called Joran on his mobile phone. I had called him with the telephone from where I work. The phone number there is 588xxxx. I asked Joran, how he was doing and if he had gone to school.
I forgot what he told me, but I asked him subsequently what he was doing now. Joran told me that he at that moment in time was in the casino of the Wyndham and that he was there together with our friend Guido. I do not know Guido's last name. I do know that he works at the Excelsior Casino as a dealer, I told Joran that I would call later and after that I hung up the phone. Then I continued working.
At about 23:00 hours, I called Joran again on his mobile phone using the telephone of my workplace. I asked him again how he was doing and what he was doing. Joran told me that he was in the Raddison casino together with Guido. I had told him that I would be coming to where he was. Joran asked me, are you going to come? I said to him, yes, I am going to come. After this I hung up the phone.
I have to remark that there was a chance that I called my brother on his mobile phone with the telephone from my workplace. Sometimes I do that and sometimes I don't. I do not know if I did it that day.
At about 23:05 hours, my brother came and picked me up with my car. We then drove home. My brother was driving the car. We took the main road to our house. On the way home, I told Satish that Joran was at the casino and that i was going to meet him there. My brother wanted to come too. I told him he wasn't allowed to come, I also told him that he hadn't gone to school and that I didn't want any problems/trouble with my mother.
Between 23:25 hours and 23:35 hours, we arrived home. Satish got out of the car and I got behind the steering wheel. After that I drove through town to the Raddison Casino.
At about 00:00 hours, I had arrived at the Raddison Hotet. I parked my car in the parking lot and walked to the casino. When I got inside, I saw that Joran was in the poker room and that he was playing at a table. I saw that Guido was seated at another poker table also playing poker, I had seen another friend Andre who was also in the poker room. I do not know the surname of Andre. Andre was not playing poker. At some moment in time Andre had come over to where I was and had greeted me. Andre asked me to come inside. I did go inside. I did not play, but did look at the cards of Joran and Guido.
At some given moment in time a tourist who was sitting at Joran's table got angry. The tourist thought that we were looking at the cards of other players and signaling/deciding for Joran when he should play or not. It lead to a disagreement between Joran and the tourist. The manager of the Radisson Casino came over and everything calmed down. I drank about four "whisky coke" gedronken in the Radisson Casino. I now that Joran drank more because the waiters were constantly bringing him drinks .I am not sure .what he was drinking. His drinks were of a yellow colour. I think it was “whisky soda" or 'Whisky water".
At about 02:15 hours, we, that is Andre and me said to Joran that this wasn't fun anymore/we weren't having fun anymore and that he should cash in his chips so that we could leave. Joran was in agreement and went to cash in his chips. After this Joran exited the poker room and went to the bathroom. When he was done the four of us went into the casino and stood there. We had been talking about the tourist that had been looking for trouble. Because all of the blackjack tables in the casino were full, Joran and I decided to go to the Wyndham Casino. Guido had said that he was going home and that he would drop off Andre at his place. Joran and me walked to my car that was parked on the parking lot. We got into the car and we drove to the Wyndham Hotel.
When I was parking my car in the parking lot, Joran's phone went off. Joran had said Paul. So I knew that it was Joran's father. Joran answered to phone and signalled me to turn the volume down of the music. That is what I did. I had also put my car into park. Joran talked a short while with his father. I only heard him say: yes, OK, that's allright. After this Joran closed the phone.
Joran turned to me and said that the police was at his house and that it had been his dad on the phone just now. Joran said that it was about a girl that we went out with last night. Joran looked at me and said: “Shit, that is the same girl we went out with last night”. Then he said at the same time: “what is up with this/wrong with this fucking bitch”.
After that Joran said to me: “Hey, look. If the police asks about it then we will just say we went away with the girl from Carlos & Charlies, that we did a bit of a road-trip, that he kissed and fingered her, that she fell asleep in the car, that we dropped her off at the Holiday Inn, that she had fallen down, that he had helped her up and that she walked off”. I said to Joran that it was OK, it was fine. Joran than said to me, let's go home. We then drove from the Wyndham Hotel to Joran's house.
At approximately 02:40 uur, we had arrived at his house, but no-one was there. Joran phoned his father. The father had left with the police to meet with us at the Wyndham. Joran's father told him to stay at the house and that he was going to come back to the house now. I had turned up the volume of the music in my car to loud. At some point the woman that lives next door to Joran came out and called Joran over to her. The neighbor told Joran to turn the volume down of the music, she had a baby in the house and the music was too loud. Joran came over to me and told me to turn the volume down. Then borrowed Joran's phone and called Satish. I told Satish what Joran had told me. The conversation lasted about 3 to 4 minutes.
After about 10 minutes Joran phoned Satish. Joran verified with Satish if he remembered the story correctly. Joran talked to Satish about 3 minutes.
We waited approximately another 7 minutes. Joran's father came together with the police, a white van with the family and a green Yaris. I think the mother of the girl was in the back of the Yaris. The officers approached us. They had separated us. I am not sure who she was, but a woman came up to us with a picture and asked us if we had gone out with this girl yesterday. I said yes. I think Joran also said yes. After that the police asked us what exactly had happened. I then told the Holiday Inn story to the police officer. That was the made up story. After that I asked the officer what exactly was the matter. The officer answered that the girl had gone missing. After that my conversation with the officers ended and they went to talk to Joran. Joran had told his story. One of the family members said in English to Joran that he was lying/not telling the truth and that they saw Joran and the girl on the videocamera's of the Windham casino earlier that afternoon. Then I asked like if she was missing or that they saw her on the camera. An American man said to me: "Yes, because you two assholes went out with her yesterday and now she is missing", (loosely translated: Yes, because you two butts went out with her yesterday and now she is missing). Then Joran's father got angry and said to the man in English: *You are out of your jurisdiction" (loosely translated by reporting officer: You are outside of you jurisdiction). The police then calmed the situation down. After that the family wanted us to go with the police to show them the route we drove. Joran's father refused. I also said no. After that the police officers said it was nonsense to drive out to the light house at that moment in time. The family then asked if we could go to the Holiday Inn to point out the security guard that worked there to the police. I have to admit/remark that I had made up the story with the security guard. Joran had acted a bit difficult, but we decided to go to the Holiday Inn. I had locked my car. Me and Joran and his dad got into the back of the police car. We drove to police station Noord. I guess they were asking for permission. Then we drove from the police station to the Holiday Inn.
Between 03:20 hours and 03:25 hours, we had arrived at the Holiday Inn Hotel. When we arrived there, the police officer(s) went to the manager of the security guards to try and get the details of the security guards that worked at the hotel. We had remained outside in front of the entrance. We just waited. Joran and his dad were talking at the police car. I could not hear what they were saying. I stood at one of the concrete beam/pillar in front of the lobby. The man who had driven the green Yaris called me to come over to where he was. I went over to him. The man was sitting in the car. The man asked me in Papiamentu whether or not the story we told was true. I said yes to him. During the conversation I had with him I had for one reason or another shot my mouth off and said something about the sporting shoes. The man asked me what I meant by sporting shoes. I then said to him that I was thinking about something unrelated/different. Then I said to him that it was annoying/bothersome, because my mother was waiting for me. The man asked me if I wanted to call my mother. I said to him, yes, but I don't have any more minutes. The man then asked me for the number. I gave the man Satish's number. The man punched in the numbers and gave the phone to me. Satish answered the phone. I pretended that it was my mother on the line. I told Satish: “Mommy, I am now at the Holiday Inn but I will be home soon”. The reason I gave Satish's number is because I didn't want to talk to my mother. I wanted to get away from the Holiday Inn as soon as possible. The reason I wanted to leave is because I knew that the security guard didn't exist. We were never at the Holiday Inn. When I handed the phone back to the man, I saw the mother of the girl for the first time. She was in the back of the car. Then I asked the man since when the girl was missing. The man answered me since that afternoon. At one point Joran came and stood with us. Joran looked into the car and asked the man in the car whether the woman in the back was the mother. The man answered him, yes. Joran walked to the mother. Joran asked her if she was the mother. The mother kept looking seriously at Joran and said, yes. Joran had said to the mother in English that she should believe him and that he hadn't done anything bad to/with her daughter. The woman looked angrily at Joran and said to him that she knew that it had been him on the camera of the casino together with the girl and that it had been Joran with whom she went to Carlos & Charlies and that they hadn't seen on the camera of the lobby that we had brought her back, contradictory to what we had claimed/said. The woman asked Joran again what he had done with her daughter. Joran said he had done nothing. The woman answered Joran that she didn't believe him and that he was going to suffer for this. After that Joran said to her that he would help her anyway possible to help her get her daughter back. Then we walked to the lobby. Joran went and stood with his father. There were also a few men at the hotel who said they were from the FBI. There was also a woman who was looking for something in the papers from the hotel. I went and sat on one of the bar stools that were in the lobby. The whole process of looking and talking lasted to approximately 05.45 hours. Joran's father had then said that Joran needed to go to school and the police also that shouldn't happen like that and that the family members should go to the police and file a missing persons report. Joran and me got back into the police car. Joran's father remained behind and spoke with the family members and the people who said they were from the FBI. I had seen from the window of the car that Joran's father greeted the people and then he walked to the police car. Then we drove off in the police car. That is the last time I saw the family members of the missing girl in person. The police officers drove from the Holiday Inn to Joran's house. The police had dropped us off at Joran's house. One of the police officers in the car said that he knew Joran, he had been to Joran's house once, because someone had thrown a brick through his window.
We then went to Joran's room because Joran's dad wanted to talk to us so we sat down on the floor, because Joran's mattresses were on the floor in his room. Joran's father said to us, see boys what kind of problems this had caused. Then he asked us what we had learned from this. I answered, never offer someone a ride. Joran agreed with me. It was already about 06:10 hours, and I said that it really is late and that I had to go home. I got up and walked to the door. Joran had also said that he had to go to school later. His father had also asked him what time he had to go to school. I didn't hear what answer Joran gave his father. I said my goodbyes and drove home. I went with my car and drove home via the road leading through Paradera.
At approximately 06:45 hours, I got home. I had locked my car and walked to the front door. Before I could open the door, Satish had opened the door. When I stepped inside Satish signaled me not to make noise because my mother was still sleeping. We walked to Satish's bedroom. When I got into his bedroom he asked me what precisely was going on. I had told him that the girl that we went out with, had gone missing. And that they are saying that we are the last people with whom the girl was last seen. Then I told him the story of the security guard. That story I hadn't told Satish on the phone. Satish asked me if we were in trouble and I said that I didn't think so because we weren't the ones who had been kissing her. After that Satish said to me that we would talk later, but that he needed to get ready to go to school.. Then I said to him that I would be going to bed too. I walked to my bedroom and turned on my airco and my computer and I went on "msn messenger". I had then turned off the screen of my computer and the loudspeakers. I sat down on my bed, took off my shoes and fell asleep. I was very tired. And that was in the night from Monday to Tuesday.
To your question as to what Joran was wearing that day from Monday to Tuesday when he went to the casino, I can say the following.
He had on a light blue T-shirt and short trousers. I think the afore mentioned trousers were blue but I am not sure of that. He wore blue slippers.
To your question as how Joran addresses his father, I can say the following. Joran addresses his father with his name, he says Paul to him. His mother he does address with “Mama” or “mom”.
To your question as to who John Charles CROES is, where he lives and how often I have chatted to him on "MSN", I can say the following.
The afore mentioned John lives with his whole family in Miami. I have known him since school. We were together at the MAVO. On Monday Mai 30th 2005 I had chatted with John from about 02:40 to 03:30 hours. We didn't chat continually. From time to time I went and watched some TV. But I am sure that he was online during the time-frame I just mentioned above here.
To your question whether Joran is able to drive a car, I can say the following.
I know that he is able to drive a car. One time Joran drove my mother's car from the Marriot Hotel to my house. My mother has a Daewoo Nubira modell 1999. He also told me once that he had to drive for his mother, because his mother's foot had been hurting.
To your question what car the parents of Joran drive, I can say the following.
Joran's father has a red jeep and Joran's mother has a dark blue Hyundai jeep.
To your question as to what part Joran's father played in this case, I can say the following.
From the story that we had told him, he believed us. To me and my parents he was always polite. When the case of the girl got more serious towards the end of the week, he had asked me whether or not my father had a lawyer. I said to him that he didn't. This was Thursday two weeks ago. He had asked me if I knew a good attorney. I told him that I did not have a lot of experience with attorneys. He said to me that we shouldn't worry about it and that he would find a lawyer for me and my brother. Joran's father told me that same afternoon that he had hired Antoni Carlo to represent Joran.
On Friday two weeks ago he had arainged a lawyer for us. That same afternoon approximately 16.30 hours, I had gone with my brother Satish to Joran's house. My mother had also come to Joran's house during her break from work. When my mother arrived, my mother and Joran's dad met for the first time and we went and sat down on the porch. My mother wanted to hear the story from Joran himself before she would believe our story. Joran then told the story about the Holiday Inn. Then Joran's father said to us that the situation could get better but also worse. Joran's father had asked my mother if we had an attorney. My mother said no, because we have never had any problems on Aruba. Joran's father said, wait I will find one for you and went in to get his hand-bag/briefcase. About a minute later he returned with his hand-bag/briefcase. He opened it and took out a piece of paper with several names on it. . Then Joran asked me if I wanted something to drink. I said yes. Joran and Satish got up and went and got something to drink. The father said to us that Oomen was a good lawyer and he picked up his mobile phone and called Oomen. Joran's father briefly spoke to Oomen and they had made an appointment for the next day, to be exact Saturday at 11.00 hours,. The father handed the phone to my mother and my mother had talked to Oomen.
To your question whether I returned to pick up Joran near the Marriot Hotel the night that I had dropped him off with the girl, I can say the following.
No, I did not go to pick him up again. After I got home, I didn't go out anymore.
To your question whether I returned to pick up Joran near the Marriot Hotel the night that I had dropped him off with the girl, I can say the following.
No, I did not go to pick him up again. After I got home, I didn't go out anymore.
To your question whether I am sure that Joran and the girl walked off in the direction of the beach after I dropped them off, I can say the following.
Yes. Joran got out of the car first. The girl got out on the same side as Joran had gotten out. Hand in hand they walked into the direction of the beach..
To you question whether I can remember anything that Joran told me about everything that happend with the girl, I will say the following.
On Tuesday two weeks ago, about 19.00 hours, I went to the house of Joran. Freddie was at the house of Joran. Joran had said to me that he had told Freddie the story about the Holiday Inn and also the truth. Joran had said only Freddy because he is my best friend. I had asked Joran if he did anything with/to* the girl. Joran had told us that he did not do anything with/to* the girl and that the girl had fallen asleep on the beach and that he had left her there. Freddie asked him why he had left his sport-shoes there. I do not know what Joran had said, but he came up with an excuse as to why he had and they he walked outside. Freddie then said to me in Papiamentu, "Eia hasi hopt coi pendew si di faga e mucha eynan" (loose translation by reporting officer. He has done a stupid thing leaving that girl alone on the beach). I answered Freddie that I told him the same thing. Every time we asked him about the shoes, he did not answer.
To you question as to whether I am sure that the story of the Holiday Inn was plan A and this statement is plan B, I can say the following.
No, no this is the truth. Plan B for me and my brother Satish was to tell the truth. It was no plan. It is just the truth.
To your question with what I clean the inside of my car, I can say the following.
I just use a vacuum cleaner with the square accessory that has bristles on the end. The colour of the bristles is black. I also cleaned my car several times with another brush with black bristles. That was when the vacuum cleaner was broken. I also use a sort of "Armor All" to clean the car on the inside. It happened twice that someone spilled a drink in my car. Once it was a 'Cherry Coke" that spilled on the seat on the passenger side and where the hand break is. That happened when I was with my brother. The other time someone bumped/crashed into my car from the back while I was holding a "whisky Coke". It fell between my legs, on the seat on the passenger side and on the carpet on the floor at the passenger side.
To your question whether the girl threw up/vomited in my car, I can say the following. The girl did not throw up in my car.
**can mean both things with/to, without more context unable to say whether it is the one or the other.
To your question whether anyone has has ever thrown up in my car, I can say the following.
Nobody has ever thrown up/vomited in my car.
To your question from whom I bought the car, I can say the following. I bought the car from a man called David GROSS. He works at a company called "Carufa". I must tell you that when they installed the sound in my car, they used a lot of glue and seal/sealant under the carpet of the car. They had to remove the carpets to pull new cables through the car. You can verify this at "Automotive Enterprises". The man who installed it is called Osman OSMAN. I don't know if anyone had an accident/car crash with this car prior to it being sold to me.
To your question whether this statement I have now given is truthful, I can say the following. This statement is based 100% on the truth. After I have reviewed the statement with my lawyer, I will sign it.
D.S. KALPOE
After the suspect D.S. KALPOE had read the statement, he declared to stick with what he declared/persist in what he had declared and signed the statement. .
Of this ,we reporting officers, on our oath of office have made this proces-verbaal, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 13th 2005.
PROCES-VERBAAL
Statement Suspect D.S. KALPOE
We, Clyde Anthony BURKE and Shaniro Baldrik KELLY, respectively sergeant first class and sergeant with the Korps Politie Aruba and both detached to the section Often occurring crimes District 11, declare the following.
On June 13th 2005 at about 10:20 hours, we, the reporting officers, interviewed the suspect D.S. KALPOE, for further information..
Before the interview/interrogation started the suspect D.S. KALPOE was informed that he was not obliged to answer the questions. and that his statement would be recorded on videotape.
The statement he made in dutch was transcribed and went as follows.
"To your question as to what I did on Monday June 30th 2005, I will say the following.
On that Monday in question, I woke up around 13.30 hours.
When I got out of my room, I saw that Satish had also come out of his room. Our mother came up to us and was angry and talked to us about the fact that we went out and that Satish now hadn't gone to school. I walked through the living room and had turned on the television. My brother joined me there and we watched the television. At some point I got up and went to my mother and asked her if the school of Satish had indeed called about him. After this I went back to my room and switched on the computer.
I immediately went on "msn" and started chatting with my boss and my co-worker. It is a habit of mine that I switch on my computer and go to “msn” when I get home. After that I left my room and bathed. After this I ate. At about 15.30 hours, my brother drove me to work with my car because I do not want to park my car in the parking lot/parking space. After that I started working.
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At about 18.00 hours, I called Joran on his mobile phone. I had called him with the telephone from where I work. The phone number there is 588xxxx. I asked Joran, how he was doing and if he had gone to school.
I forgot what he told me, but I asked him subsequently what he was doing now. Joran told me that he at that moment in time was in the casino of the Wyndham and that he was there together with our friend Guido. I do not know Guido's last name. I do know that he works at the Excelsior Casino as a dealer, I told Joran that I would call later and after that I hung up the phone. Then I continued working.
At about 23:00 hours, I called Joran again on his mobile phone using the telephone of my workplace. I asked him again how he was doing and what he was doing. Joran told me that he was in the Raddison casino together with Guido. I had told him that I would be coming to where he was. Joran asked me, are you going to come? I said to him, yes, I am going to come. After this I hung up the phone.
I have to remark that there was a chance that I called my brother on his mobile phone with the telephone from my workplace. Sometimes I do that and sometimes I don't. I do not know if I did it that day.
At about 23:05 hours, my brother came and picked me up with my car. We then drove home. My brother was driving the car. We took the main road to our house. On the way home, I told Satish that Joran was at the casino and that i was going to meet him there. My brother wanted to come too. I told him he wasn't allowed to come, I also told him that he hadn't gone to school and that I didn't want any problems/trouble with my mother.
Between 23:25 hours and 23:35 hours, we arrived home. Satish got out of the car and I got behind the steering wheel. After that I drove through town to the Raddison Casino.
At about 00:00 hours, I had arrived at the Raddison Hotet. I parked my car in the parking lot and walked to the casino. When I got inside, I saw that Joran was in the poker room and that he was playing at a table. I saw that Guido was seated at another poker table also playing poker, I had seen another friend Andre who was also in the poker room. I do not know the surname of Andre. Andre was not playing poker. At some moment in time Andre had come over to where I was and had greeted me. Andre asked me to come inside. I did go inside. I did not play, but did look at the cards of Joran and Guido.
At some given moment in time a tourist who was sitting at Joran's table got angry. The tourist thought that we were looking at the cards of other players and signaling/deciding for Joran when he should play or not. It lead to a disagreement between Joran and the tourist. The manager of the Radisson Casino came over and everything calmed down. I drank about four "whisky coke" gedronken in the Radisson Casino. I now that Joran drank more because the waiters were constantly bringing him drinks .I am not sure .what he was drinking. His drinks were of a yellow colour. I think it was “whisky soda" or 'Whisky water".
At about 02:15 hours, we, that is Andre and me said to Joran that this wasn't fun anymore/we weren't having fun anymore and that he should cash in his chips so that we could leave. Joran was in agreement and went to cash in his chips. After this Joran exited the poker room and went to the bathroom. When he was done the four of us went into the casino and stood there. We had been talking about the tourist that had been looking for trouble. Because all of the blackjack tables in the casino were full, Joran and I decided to go to the Wyndham Casino. Guido had said that he was going home and that he would drop off Andre at his place. Joran and me walked to my car that was parked on the parking lot. We got into the car and we drove to the Wyndham Hotel.
When I was parking my car in the parking lot, Joran's phone went off. Joran had said Paul. So I knew that it was Joran's father. Joran answered to phone and signalled me to turn the volume down of the music. That is what I did. I had also put my car into park. Joran talked a short while with his father. I only heard him say: yes, OK, that's allright. After this Joran closed the phone.
Joran turned to me and said that the police was at his house and that it had been his dad on the phone just now. Joran said that it was about a girl that we went out with last night. Joran looked at me and said: “Shit, that is the same girl we went out with last night”. Then he said at the same time: “what is up with this/wrong with this fucking bitch”.
After that Joran said to me: “Hey, look. If the police asks about it then we will just say we went away with the girl from Carlos & Charlies, that we did a bit of a road-trip, that he kissed and fingered her, that she fell asleep in the car, that we dropped her off at the Holiday Inn, that she had fallen down, that he had helped her up and that she walked off”. I said to Joran that it was OK, it was fine. Joran than said to me, let's go home. We then drove from the Wyndham Hotel to Joran's house.
At approximately 02:40 uur, we had arrived at his house, but no-one was there. Joran phoned his father. The father had left with the police to meet with us at the Wyndham. Joran's father told him to stay at the house and that he was going to come back to the house now. I had turned up the volume of the music in my car to loud. At some point the woman that lives next door to Joran came out and called Joran over to her. The neighbor told Joran to turn the volume down of the music, she had a baby in the house and the music was too loud. Joran came over to me and told me to turn the volume down. Then borrowed Joran's phone and called Satish. I told Satish what Joran had told me. The conversation lasted about 3 to 4 minutes.
After about 10 minutes Joran phoned Satish. Joran verified with Satish if he remembered the story correctly. Joran talked to Satish about 3 minutes.
We waited approximately another 7 minutes. Joran's father came together with the police, a white van with the family and a green Yaris. I think the mother of the girl was in the back of the Yaris. The officers approached us. They had separated us. I am not sure who she was, but a woman came up to us with a picture and asked us if we had gone out with this girl yesterday. I said yes. I think Joran also said yes. After that the police asked us what exactly had happened. I then told the Holiday Inn story to the police officer. That was the made up story. After that I asked the officer what exactly was the matter. The officer answered that the girl had gone missing. After that my conversation with the officers ended and they went to talk to Joran. Joran had told his story. One of the family members said in English to Joran that he was lying/not telling the truth and that they saw Joran and the girl on the videocamera's of the Windham casino earlier that afternoon. Then I asked like if she was missing or that they saw her on the camera. An American man said to me: "Yes, because you two assholes went out with her yesterday and now she is missing", (loosely translated: Yes, because you two butts went out with her yesterday and now she is missing). Then Joran's father got angry and said to the man in English: *You are out of your jurisdiction" (loosely translated by reporting officer: You are outside of you jurisdiction). The police then calmed the situation down. After that the family wanted us to go with the police to show them the route we drove. Joran's father refused. I also said no. After that the police officers said it was nonsense to drive out to the light house at that moment in time. The family then asked if we could go to the Holiday Inn to point out the security guard that worked there to the police. I have to admit/remark that I had made up the story with the security guard. Joran had acted a bit difficult, but we decided to go to the Holiday Inn. I had locked my car. Me and Joran and his dad got into the back of the police car. We drove to police station Noord. I guess they were asking for permission. Then we drove from the police station to the Holiday Inn.
Between 03:20 hours and 03:25 hours, we had arrived at the Holiday Inn Hotel. When we arrived there, the police officer(s) went to the manager of the security guards to try and get the details of the security guards that worked at the hotel. We had remained outside in front of the entrance. We just waited. Joran and his dad were talking at the police car. I could not hear what they were saying. I stood at one of the concrete beam/pillar in front of the lobby. The man who had driven the green Yaris called me to come over to where he was. I went over to him. The man was sitting in the car. The man asked me in Papiamentu whether or not the story we told was true. I said yes to him. During the conversation I had with him I had for one reason or another shot my mouth off and said something about the sporting shoes. The man asked me what I meant by sporting shoes. I then said to him that I was thinking about something unrelated/different. Then I said to him that it was annoying/bothersome, because my mother was waiting for me. The man asked me if I wanted to call my mother. I said to him, yes, but I don't have any more minutes. The man then asked me for the number. I gave the man Satish's number. The man punched in the numbers and gave the phone to me. Satish answered the phone. I pretended that it was my mother on the line. I told Satish: “Mommy, I am now at the Holiday Inn but I will be home soon”. The reason I gave Satish's number is because I didn't want to talk to my mother. I wanted to get away from the Holiday Inn as soon as possible. The reason I wanted to leave is because I knew that the security guard didn't exist. We were never at the Holiday Inn. When I handed the phone back to the man, I saw the mother of the girl for the first time. She was in the back of the car. Then I asked the man since when the girl was missing. The man answered me since that afternoon. At one point Joran came and stood with us. Joran looked into the car and asked the man in the car whether the woman in the back was the mother. The man answered him, yes. Joran walked to the mother. Joran asked her if she was the mother. The mother kept looking seriously at Joran and said, yes. Joran had said to the mother in English that she should believe him and that he hadn't done anything bad to/with her daughter. The woman looked angrily at Joran and said to him that she knew that it had been him on the camera of the casino together with the girl and that it had been Joran with whom she went to Carlos & Charlies and that they hadn't seen on the camera of the lobby that we had brought her back, contradictory to what we had claimed/said. The woman asked Joran again what he had done with her daughter. Joran said he had done nothing. The woman answered Joran that she didn't believe him and that he was going to suffer for this. After that Joran said to her that he would help her anyway possible to help her get her daughter back. Then we walked to the lobby. Joran went and stood with his father. There were also a few men at the hotel who said they were from the FBI. There was also a woman who was looking for something in the papers from the hotel. I went and sat on one of the bar stools that were in the lobby. The whole process of looking and talking lasted to approximately 05.45 hours. Joran's father had then said that Joran needed to go to school and the police also that shouldn't happen like that and that the family members should go to the police and file a missing persons report. Joran and me got back into the police car. Joran's father remained behind and spoke with the family members and the people who said they were from the FBI. I had seen from the window of the car that Joran's father greeted the people and then he walked to the police car. Then we drove off in the police car. That is the last time I saw the family members of the missing girl in person. The police officers drove from the Holiday Inn to Joran's house. The police had dropped us off at Joran's house. One of the police officers in the car said that he knew Joran, he had been to Joran's house once, because someone had thrown a brick through his window.
We then went to Joran's room because Joran's dad wanted to talk to us so we sat down on the floor, because Joran's mattresses were on the floor in his room. Joran's father said to us, see boys what kind of problems this had caused. Then he asked us what we had learned from this. I answered, never offer someone a ride. Joran agreed with me. It was already about 06:10 hours, and I said that it really is late and that I had to go home. I got up and walked to the door. Joran had also said that he had to go to school later. His father had also asked him what time he had to go to school. I didn't hear what answer Joran gave his father. I said my goodbyes and drove home. I went with my car and drove home via the road leading through Paradera.
At approximately 06:45 hours, I got home. I had locked my car and walked to the front door. Before I could open the door, Satish had opened the door. When I stepped inside Satish signaled me not to make noise because my mother was still sleeping. We walked to Satish's bedroom. When I got into his bedroom he asked me what precisely was going on. I had told him that the girl that we went out with, had gone missing. And that they are saying that we are the last people with whom the girl was last seen. Then I told him the story of the security guard. That story I hadn't told Satish on the phone. Satish asked me if we were in trouble and I said that I didn't think so because we weren't the ones who had been kissing her. After that Satish said to me that we would talk later, but that he needed to get ready to go to school.. Then I said to him that I would be going to bed too. I walked to my bedroom and turned on my airco and my computer and I went on "msn messenger". I had then turned off the screen of my computer and the loudspeakers. I sat down on my bed, took off my shoes and fell asleep. I was very tired. And that was in the night from Monday to Tuesday.
To your question as to what Joran was wearing that day from Monday to Tuesday when he went to the casino, I can say the following.
He had on a light blue T-shirt and short trousers. I think the afore mentioned trousers were blue but I am not sure of that. He wore blue slippers.
To your question as how Joran addresses his father, I can say the following. Joran addresses his father with his name, he says Paul to him. His mother he does address with “Mama” or “mom”.
To your question as to who John Charles CROES is, where he lives and how often I have chatted to him on "MSN", I can say the following.
The afore mentioned John lives with his whole family in Miami. I have known him since school. We were together at the MAVO. On Monday Mai 30th 2005 I had chatted with John from about 02:40 to 03:30 hours. We didn't chat continually. From time to time I went and watched some TV. But I am sure that he was online during the time-frame I just mentioned above here.
To your question whether Joran is able to drive a car, I can say the following.
I know that he is able to drive a car. One time Joran drove my mother's car from the Marriot Hotel to my house. My mother has a Daewoo Nubira modell 1999. He also told me once that he had to drive for his mother, because his mother's foot had been hurting.
To your question what car the parents of Joran drive, I can say the following.
Joran's father has a red jeep and Joran's mother has a dark blue Hyundai jeep.
To your question as to what part Joran's father played in this case, I can say the following.
From the story that we had told him, he believed us. To me and my parents he was always polite. When the case of the girl got more serious towards the end of the week, he had asked me whether or not my father had a lawyer. I said to him that he didn't. This was Thursday two weeks ago. He had asked me if I knew a good attorney. I told him that I did not have a lot of experience with attorneys. He said to me that we shouldn't worry about it and that he would find a lawyer for me and my brother. Joran's father told me that same afternoon that he had hired Antoni Carlo to represent Joran.
On Friday two weeks ago he had arainged a lawyer for us. That same afternoon approximately 16.30 hours, I had gone with my brother Satish to Joran's house. My mother had also come to Joran's house during her break from work. When my mother arrived, my mother and Joran's dad met for the first time and we went and sat down on the porch. My mother wanted to hear the story from Joran himself before she would believe our story. Joran then told the story about the Holiday Inn. Then Joran's father said to us that the situation could get better but also worse. Joran's father had asked my mother if we had an attorney. My mother said no, because we have never had any problems on Aruba. Joran's father said, wait I will find one for you and went in to get his hand-bag/briefcase. About a minute later he returned with his hand-bag/briefcase. He opened it and took out a piece of paper with several names on it. . Then Joran asked me if I wanted something to drink. I said yes. Joran and Satish got up and went and got something to drink. The father said to us that Oomen was a good lawyer and he picked up his mobile phone and called Oomen. Joran's father briefly spoke to Oomen and they had made an appointment for the next day, to be exact Saturday at 11.00 hours,. The father handed the phone to my mother and my mother had talked to Oomen.
To your question whether I returned to pick up Joran near the Marriot Hotel the night that I had dropped him off with the girl, I can say the following.
No, I did not go to pick him up again. After I got home, I didn't go out anymore.
To your question whether I returned to pick up Joran near the Marriot Hotel the night that I had dropped him off with the girl, I can say the following.
No, I did not go to pick him up again. After I got home, I didn't go out anymore.
To your question whether I am sure that Joran and the girl walked off in the direction of the beach after I dropped them off, I can say the following.
Yes. Joran got out of the car first. The girl got out on the same side as Joran had gotten out. Hand in hand they walked into the direction of the beach..
To you question whether I can remember anything that Joran told me about everything that happend with the girl, I will say the following.
On Tuesday two weeks ago, about 19.00 hours, I went to the house of Joran. Freddie was at the house of Joran. Joran had said to me that he had told Freddie the story about the Holiday Inn and also the truth. Joran had said only Freddy because he is my best friend. I had asked Joran if he did anything with/to* the girl. Joran had told us that he did not do anything with/to* the girl and that the girl had fallen asleep on the beach and that he had left her there. Freddie asked him why he had left his sport-shoes there. I do not know what Joran had said, but he came up with an excuse as to why he had and they he walked outside. Freddie then said to me in Papiamentu, "Eia hasi hopt coi pendew si di faga e mucha eynan" (loose translation by reporting officer. He has done a stupid thing leaving that girl alone on the beach). I answered Freddie that I told him the same thing. Every time we asked him about the shoes, he did not answer.
To you question as to whether I am sure that the story of the Holiday Inn was plan A and this statement is plan B, I can say the following.
No, no this is the truth. Plan B for me and my brother Satish was to tell the truth. It was no plan. It is just the truth.
To your question with what I clean the inside of my car, I can say the following.
I just use a vacuum cleaner with the square accessory that has bristles on the end. The colour of the bristles is black. I also cleaned my car several times with another brush with black bristles. That was when the vacuum cleaner was broken. I also use a sort of "Armor All" to clean the car on the inside. It happened twice that someone spilled a drink in my car. Once it was a 'Cherry Coke" that spilled on the seat on the passenger side and where the hand break is. That happened when I was with my brother. The other time someone bumped/crashed into my car from the back while I was holding a "whisky Coke". It fell between my legs, on the seat on the passenger side and on the carpet on the floor at the passenger side.
To your question whether the girl threw up/vomited in my car, I can say the following. The girl did not throw up in my car.
**can mean both things with/to, without more context unable to say whether it is the one or the other.
To your question whether anyone has has ever thrown up in my car, I can say the following.
Nobody has ever thrown up/vomited in my car.
To your question from whom I bought the car, I can say the following. I bought the car from a man called David GROSS. He works at a company called "Carufa". I must tell you that when they installed the sound in my car, they used a lot of glue and seal/sealant under the carpet of the car. They had to remove the carpets to pull new cables through the car. You can verify this at "Automotive Enterprises". The man who installed it is called Osman OSMAN. I don't know if anyone had an accident/car crash with this car prior to it being sold to me.
To your question whether this statement I have now given is truthful, I can say the following. This statement is based 100% on the truth. After I have reviewed the statement with my lawyer, I will sign it.
D.S. KALPOE
After the suspect D.S. KALPOE had read the statement, he declared to stick with what he declared/persist in what he had declared and signed the statement. .
Of this ,we reporting officers, on our oath of office have made this proces-verbaal, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 13th 2005.
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Deepak June 16
PROCES-VERBAAL
We, Shaniro Baldrik KELLY and Clyde Anthony BURKE, respectively sergeant and sergeant first class with the Korps Politie Aruba and both detached to the Detective district 2, declare the following.
On Thursday, June 16th 2005 at about 20:30 hours, we, the reporting officers, interviewed the suspect D.S. KALPOE, for further information..
Before the interview/interrogation, I KELLY, informed the suspect that he was not obliged to answer and that his statements would be videotaped.
The statement he made in dutch was transcribed by me, KELLY and went as follows;
"Although I am aware I am not obliged to answer your questions, I am willing to make a statement.
You are telling me that in the night of May 30th 2005 I received a telephone call from Joran, that we had a conversation of approximately i minutes and whether I can state what the content of that conversation was. I cannot exactly remember the content of the conversation. I do remember that Joran said to me that he was on his way home by foot. That he was in the vicinity of the Mc. Donalds at Palm Beach. I asked him if he had had sex with the girl. He said that they went into the water briefly and that after that they sat down on the beach and the girl had fallen asleep, that is what I understood. His actual words were that the girl "passed out" on the beach and that he left her there. I asked him why he had left her there. He answered that she would be leaving the same day and that someone would find her there. I cursed him/told him off for the fact that he had left her there. I even told him he was sick for doing that to the girl. I have to tell you there was a lot of disturbance on the phone. It happened several times that I could not hear Joran. At some point it was so bad that he said that when he would get home, he would come online.
To your question how long I estimate the conversation lasted, I can say the following. I estimate that the conversation took about 5 minutes. My estimations are sometimes not too precise.
To your question about the day that myself, Satish and Joran went for a walk at the "Raquet Club" and who had observed this, I can say the following. Koen and Guido certainly saw us. Sander may have seen us, I am unsure about that.
To your question as to what route we walked, I can say the following. We walked around the before mentioned club.
To your question as to how long we walked, I can say the following. It lasted about 5 to 6 minutes. .
To your question as to what the topic was of the conversation, I can say the following. The conversation was about the route, the "Holiday Inn" route and whether or not we could become suspects.
To your question as to when I called Joran on that Monday and asked him where he was and with whom Joran said that he was with in the casino, I can say the following. Joran told me that he and Guido were together at the "Wyndham" casino. That was about 18.00 hours. Later that night, when I called him around 23.00 hours he was in the "Radisson" casino.
To your question as to whom all were with Joran when I arrived at the "Radisson" casino, I can say the following. Andre and Guido were also in the casino.
To your question as to how Guido was dressed that night, I can say the following. Guido was wearing a white T-shirt and blue short trousers. That you can check on the video-tape of the casino.
To your question as to how long I have known Andre, I can say the following. I estimate that I have known him for about 5 months. I got to know him through Koen. That happened when Koen came to where I work and Andre was with him.
To your question as to whether I know where Andre lives, I can say the following. I do not know where Andre lives. Koen and Sander know where Andre lives. They are good friends.
To your question as to whether I know what car Andre drives, I can say the following. Andre drives a black, single cabine pick-up.
To your question as to whether I know what kind of car Guido drives, I can say the following. Guido drives a white "Nissan Sentra". I do not know for sure whether it is his car. .
To your question as to whether I knew that Guido would go to the Netherlands, I can say the following. I did not know.
To your question as to how long I have known Guido, I can say the following. I have only known him for a few months. I estimate I know him about 2 to 3 months. I only know him from the "Excelsior Casino".
To your question whether I can explain how Steve got his story, I can say the following. I know that he overheard me on the phone at work, telling the story to someone. After he had heard he came to me with the story. I know it is impossible that he saw us, because we were never at the "Holiday Inn". If you ask him detailed questions, he can make no other statement.
To your question whether I can state anything about the case of the missing girl, I can say the following. Joran had made up the story that there were traces of blood in my car. My car was ripped open by the police and one could see that was this was a lie. Now he is telling a story about how the police should look into it that I always have money. I have a job and get an allowance from my parents. I am not Joran who steals money from his parents. And I am of the opinion that, that this is not the issue at this moment. If you want to find out what happened to the girl and where she is, you have to be with Joran van der SLOOT Joran van der SLOOT is a disturbed/sich person, he has admitted that he is in the care of a psychologist and that he hits his brother. If the police wants more information about Natalee, then you have to be with Joran. He was the last person with the girl, that I can guarantee.
D.S. KALPOE
After I, BURKE, had read the statement back to the suspect D.S. KALPOE, he stated that he wished to go through it with his lawyer before he wanted to sign it. This request was agreed to.
Of this, we the reporting officers, on our oath as officers have taken down in this proces-verbaal on June 16th 2005.
The reporting officers,
Kelly Burke
PROCES-VERBAAL
We, Shaniro Baldrik KELLY and Clyde Anthony BURKE, respectively sergeant and sergeant first class with the Korps Politie Aruba and both detached to the Detective district 2, declare the following.
On Thursday, June 16th 2005 at about 20:30 hours, we, the reporting officers, interviewed the suspect D.S. KALPOE, for further information..
Before the interview/interrogation, I KELLY, informed the suspect that he was not obliged to answer and that his statements would be videotaped.
The statement he made in dutch was transcribed by me, KELLY and went as follows;
"Although I am aware I am not obliged to answer your questions, I am willing to make a statement.
You are telling me that in the night of May 30th 2005 I received a telephone call from Joran, that we had a conversation of approximately i minutes and whether I can state what the content of that conversation was. I cannot exactly remember the content of the conversation. I do remember that Joran said to me that he was on his way home by foot. That he was in the vicinity of the Mc. Donalds at Palm Beach. I asked him if he had had sex with the girl. He said that they went into the water briefly and that after that they sat down on the beach and the girl had fallen asleep, that is what I understood. His actual words were that the girl "passed out" on the beach and that he left her there. I asked him why he had left her there. He answered that she would be leaving the same day and that someone would find her there. I cursed him/told him off for the fact that he had left her there. I even told him he was sick for doing that to the girl. I have to tell you there was a lot of disturbance on the phone. It happened several times that I could not hear Joran. At some point it was so bad that he said that when he would get home, he would come online.
To your question how long I estimate the conversation lasted, I can say the following. I estimate that the conversation took about 5 minutes. My estimations are sometimes not too precise.
To your question about the day that myself, Satish and Joran went for a walk at the "Raquet Club" and who had observed this, I can say the following. Koen and Guido certainly saw us. Sander may have seen us, I am unsure about that.
To your question as to what route we walked, I can say the following. We walked around the before mentioned club.
To your question as to how long we walked, I can say the following. It lasted about 5 to 6 minutes. .
To your question as to what the topic was of the conversation, I can say the following. The conversation was about the route, the "Holiday Inn" route and whether or not we could become suspects.
To your question as to when I called Joran on that Monday and asked him where he was and with whom Joran said that he was with in the casino, I can say the following. Joran told me that he and Guido were together at the "Wyndham" casino. That was about 18.00 hours. Later that night, when I called him around 23.00 hours he was in the "Radisson" casino.
To your question as to whom all were with Joran when I arrived at the "Radisson" casino, I can say the following. Andre and Guido were also in the casino.
To your question as to how Guido was dressed that night, I can say the following. Guido was wearing a white T-shirt and blue short trousers. That you can check on the video-tape of the casino.
To your question as to how long I have known Andre, I can say the following. I estimate that I have known him for about 5 months. I got to know him through Koen. That happened when Koen came to where I work and Andre was with him.
To your question as to whether I know where Andre lives, I can say the following. I do not know where Andre lives. Koen and Sander know where Andre lives. They are good friends.
To your question as to whether I know what car Andre drives, I can say the following. Andre drives a black, single cabine pick-up.
To your question as to whether I know what kind of car Guido drives, I can say the following. Guido drives a white "Nissan Sentra". I do not know for sure whether it is his car. .
To your question as to whether I knew that Guido would go to the Netherlands, I can say the following. I did not know.
To your question as to how long I have known Guido, I can say the following. I have only known him for a few months. I estimate I know him about 2 to 3 months. I only know him from the "Excelsior Casino".
To your question whether I can explain how Steve got his story, I can say the following. I know that he overheard me on the phone at work, telling the story to someone. After he had heard he came to me with the story. I know it is impossible that he saw us, because we were never at the "Holiday Inn". If you ask him detailed questions, he can make no other statement.
To your question whether I can state anything about the case of the missing girl, I can say the following. Joran had made up the story that there were traces of blood in my car. My car was ripped open by the police and one could see that was this was a lie. Now he is telling a story about how the police should look into it that I always have money. I have a job and get an allowance from my parents. I am not Joran who steals money from his parents. And I am of the opinion that, that this is not the issue at this moment. If you want to find out what happened to the girl and where she is, you have to be with Joran van der SLOOT Joran van der SLOOT is a disturbed/sich person, he has admitted that he is in the care of a psychologist and that he hits his brother. If the police wants more information about Natalee, then you have to be with Joran. He was the last person with the girl, that I can guarantee.
D.S. KALPOE
After I, BURKE, had read the statement back to the suspect D.S. KALPOE, he stated that he wished to go through it with his lawyer before he wanted to sign it. This request was agreed to.
Of this, we the reporting officers, on our oath as officers have taken down in this proces-verbaal on June 16th 2005.
The reporting officers,
Kelly Burke
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Deepak June 29
PROCES-VERBAAL
We, Clyde Anthony BURKE and Marton Rolando GUMBS, respectively sergeant first class and head police-officer with the Korps Politie Aruba, first mentioned is part of detective unit district 2 and the latter with the Detective Cooperation Team, declare the following.
On Wednesday, June 29th 2005 at about 12.40 hours we, the reporting officers, interviewed the suspect Deepak.S. KALPOE, for further information.
Before the interview/interrogation started the suspect was informed that he was not obliged to answer the questions.
His interview went as follows;
"Although I am aware I am not obliged to answer your questions, I am willing to make a statement.
"On your question how much money I make with my job, I can say the following. I am not going to answer that question. I am of the opinion that my wage has nothing to do with this case. I am not going to answer questions about how much I make. I am angry. I have already agreed with my lawyer that I would no longer make any statements. I know I am innocent.
On the question what my lawyer had told me regarding not making statements, I can say the following. He had told me that I should just say the truth.
On your question whether or not I have a job, I can say the following. Yes, I have a job.
On your question where I work, I can say the following. I work at the Cyber Zone Internet café.
On your question whether I have a savings-account, I can say the following. I am not going to answer this question.
On your question with what bank I have a savings-account, I can say the following. I am also not going to give an answer to this question.
On your question if I have another source of income, I can say the following. I do not have another source of income.
On your question what my expenses are, I can say the following. I am not going to answer this question.
On your questions whether I was present at Joran's apartment when Joran told the story to Freddy, I can say the following. Yes, I was at the apartment that day. It was on the 31st of May in the evening hours.
On your question which of the stories Joran had told Freddy, I can say the following. I am not answering that question, because I already made a declaration/statement regarding this.
I am not going to declare anything until the office of the DA is going to end my restrictions, then I will cooperate and make a statement.
On your question if I can explain which route I had driven, on the night from May 30th 2005 to May 31st 2005, when were were called by Joran's father, I can say the following. I am not sure but I think I took the Juancho IRAUSQUIN Boulevard that runs in front of the big hotel, about where Tango's is I turned right on the road that runs in front of Mc Donalds till you get to the lights. Here I crossed the intersection into the road that leads through Palm Beach till I got to the lights at about where the police-station is in Noord. Here I turned right into the road Shaba-Tanki Flip till I got to the Femiins Bar, there I turned left onto the road leading through Montana till we got to Joran's house.
On your question whether I heard Natalee say in the car that her mother was Hitler's sister, that they owned a plantation and that they had black people as employees. I had only heard the word Hitler. The rest I did not hear. Joran told me later all the things the girl had said.
On your question if I called Joran in the night of May 30th, I can say the following. I am not going to answer this question, because I have already made a statement about this in another declaration.
On your question what Joran told me about his sport-shoes, I can say the following. Joran had told me that he left them on the beach.
On your question whether I thought it strange that Joran had left his sport-shoes on the beach, I can say the following. I did find it strange, but they were his shoes so not my problem.
On you question if I know the make of his shoes, I can say the following. I don't know the make. The only thing I know is that they were white sport-shoes.
On your question for whom I bought sport-shoes that I presumably bought at "The Athlete's Foot" , I can say the following. I did not buy sport-shoes. I had to buy these before the case of the missing girl come up. I would also like to know since when it is a crime to buy sport-shoes.
You are telling me that during my chat session with John Charles Croes I told him that I was trying to get in contact via the telephone with a friend of mine and what I meant by this. I meant Joran. I could not call him because I didn't have any more phone-minutes left and it is not possible to call a mobile phone from our home-phone. After this I received an SMS from Joran which said "Hey Swa I am home already, thanks for waiting".
On the question what Joran meant with the remark "thanks for waiting", I can say the following. With this he meant that he wanted to thank me for waiting online.
On your question whether me and Joran had agreed that I would wait until he was home, I can say the following. It was agreed that I would wait until he came online.
D.S.KALPOEAfter the suspect D.S. KALPOE had read his statement he stated that he would not sign it. He refused because he had reviewed his previous statements in the presence of his lawyer before signing it and that this hadn't happened with this interview/proces-verbaal.
Of this, we the reporting officers, on our oath as officers have written this proces-verbaal, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 29th 2005.
The reporting officers.
Burke Gumbs
PROCES-VERBAAL
We, Clyde Anthony BURKE and Marton Rolando GUMBS, respectively sergeant first class and head police-officer with the Korps Politie Aruba, first mentioned is part of detective unit district 2 and the latter with the Detective Cooperation Team, declare the following.
On Wednesday, June 29th 2005 at about 12.40 hours we, the reporting officers, interviewed the suspect Deepak.S. KALPOE, for further information.
Before the interview/interrogation started the suspect was informed that he was not obliged to answer the questions.
His interview went as follows;
"Although I am aware I am not obliged to answer your questions, I am willing to make a statement.
"On your question how much money I make with my job, I can say the following. I am not going to answer that question. I am of the opinion that my wage has nothing to do with this case. I am not going to answer questions about how much I make. I am angry. I have already agreed with my lawyer that I would no longer make any statements. I know I am innocent.
On the question what my lawyer had told me regarding not making statements, I can say the following. He had told me that I should just say the truth.
On your question whether or not I have a job, I can say the following. Yes, I have a job.
On your question where I work, I can say the following. I work at the Cyber Zone Internet café.
On your question whether I have a savings-account, I can say the following. I am not going to answer this question.
On your question with what bank I have a savings-account, I can say the following. I am also not going to give an answer to this question.
On your question if I have another source of income, I can say the following. I do not have another source of income.
On your question what my expenses are, I can say the following. I am not going to answer this question.
On your questions whether I was present at Joran's apartment when Joran told the story to Freddy, I can say the following. Yes, I was at the apartment that day. It was on the 31st of May in the evening hours.
On your question which of the stories Joran had told Freddy, I can say the following. I am not answering that question, because I already made a declaration/statement regarding this.
I am not going to declare anything until the office of the DA is going to end my restrictions, then I will cooperate and make a statement.
On your question if I can explain which route I had driven, on the night from May 30th 2005 to May 31st 2005, when were were called by Joran's father, I can say the following. I am not sure but I think I took the Juancho IRAUSQUIN Boulevard that runs in front of the big hotel, about where Tango's is I turned right on the road that runs in front of Mc Donalds till you get to the lights. Here I crossed the intersection into the road that leads through Palm Beach till I got to the lights at about where the police-station is in Noord. Here I turned right into the road Shaba-Tanki Flip till I got to the Femiins Bar, there I turned left onto the road leading through Montana till we got to Joran's house.
On your question whether I heard Natalee say in the car that her mother was Hitler's sister, that they owned a plantation and that they had black people as employees. I had only heard the word Hitler. The rest I did not hear. Joran told me later all the things the girl had said.
On your question if I called Joran in the night of May 30th, I can say the following. I am not going to answer this question, because I have already made a statement about this in another declaration.
On your question what Joran told me about his sport-shoes, I can say the following. Joran had told me that he left them on the beach.
On your question whether I thought it strange that Joran had left his sport-shoes on the beach, I can say the following. I did find it strange, but they were his shoes so not my problem.
On you question if I know the make of his shoes, I can say the following. I don't know the make. The only thing I know is that they were white sport-shoes.
On your question for whom I bought sport-shoes that I presumably bought at "The Athlete's Foot" , I can say the following. I did not buy sport-shoes. I had to buy these before the case of the missing girl come up. I would also like to know since when it is a crime to buy sport-shoes.
You are telling me that during my chat session with John Charles Croes I told him that I was trying to get in contact via the telephone with a friend of mine and what I meant by this. I meant Joran. I could not call him because I didn't have any more phone-minutes left and it is not possible to call a mobile phone from our home-phone. After this I received an SMS from Joran which said "Hey Swa I am home already, thanks for waiting".
On the question what Joran meant with the remark "thanks for waiting", I can say the following. With this he meant that he wanted to thank me for waiting online.
On your question whether me and Joran had agreed that I would wait until he was home, I can say the following. It was agreed that I would wait until he came online.
D.S.KALPOEAfter the suspect D.S. KALPOE had read his statement he stated that he would not sign it. He refused because he had reviewed his previous statements in the presence of his lawyer before signing it and that this hadn't happened with this interview/proces-verbaal.
Of this, we the reporting officers, on our oath as officers have written this proces-verbaal, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 29th 2005.
The reporting officers.
Burke Gumbs
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Deepak June 10
PROCES-VERBAAL
We, Clyde Anthony BURKE and Marton Rolando GUMBS, respectively sergeant first class and head police-officer with the Korps Politie Aruba, first mentioned is part of detective unit district 2 and the latter with the Detective Cooperation Team, declare the .
On thursday, June 30th, we the reporting officers interviewed suspect D.S.KALPOE for further information also the suspect was taken from the police-station to identify a location.
Before the interview started, we took the suspect to identify a location and he was informed that he was not obliged to answer the questions..
The statement he made in dutch and we, the reporting officers, transcribed this statement and it went as follows;
"Although I am aware I am not obliged to answer your questions, I am willing to make a statement.
"I have just went with you to identify a location.*
On your question whether or not I have shown you the exact location where I dropped off Joran and Natalee together on the night of the 30th may, I can say the following. Where I just indicated to you is the exact location where Bc** dropped both off, (remark reporting officers, suspect D.S. KALPOE indicated to us as the location where he dropped of Joran and Natalee, the nameless road that runs in front of the most northern part of the "Marriot Hotel" at about the most northerly room.
* a typo in the original dutch text here, this is what almos certainly what was said
** don't know what the BC means but most likely it should read "where I dropped off"
The suspect showed us, reporting officers also where he left his car near the beach at Arashi to take a pee. The suspect showed us, the reporting officers as the place where he got out and went to urinate, the most southernly part of the asphalted parking place near the edge of the erected stone wall.
On your question if at the time that I got out of the car near Arashi to urinate everyone in the car was awake, I can say the following. Yes, everyone was awake. .
On your question how it is possible that no-one has declared this happened or cannot remember this happened, I can say the following. My answer is that I really did go to urinate, it really happened. The police has to ask my brother about this. I am sure that the police did not ask my brother this.
On your question whether or not I am persisting that the location where I just indicated at about/near the "Marriot Hotel" is the place where I dropped of Joran and Natalee, I can say the following. I am not sure about the route we drove to get there because it was dark. I think it is the way it happened. That it is the place where I dropped them off.
On you question if anyone observed us arriving there, I can say the following. I did not see anyone there.
On your question if I saw other cars there, I can say the following. I do not remember whether or not I saw any other cars there..
On your question regarding what time I dropped off Joran and Natalee there, I can say the following. I am not answering this question because I have previously made a statement about that.
On your question as to why I am unwilling to make a statement about this, I can say the following. I told you yesterday that I am being repeatedly asked the same questions and I am sick and tired of that.
On your question as to why I am unwilling to make a statement on this question if I am claiming to tell the truth and I need not fear making the same statement twice, I can say the following. If you give a second statement it can never be precisely the same as the previous one and the district attorney can use this as proof of me not telling the truth so that I can be held in jail even longer. It is my right to not say anything and I cannot be forced to make a statement.
D.S. KALPOE
After the suspect D.S. KALPOE had read through his statement, he declared that he wasn't going to sign his statement. He indicated that he wasn't going to because he wanted to read through the statement together with his lawyer. His request to read it with his lawyer was denied.
Of this we, the reporting officers, on our oath as officers, made this proces-verbaal on June 30th 2005.
The reporting officers.
M.R. GUMBS
PROCES-VERBAAL
We, Clyde Anthony BURKE and Marton Rolando GUMBS, respectively sergeant first class and head police-officer with the Korps Politie Aruba, first mentioned is part of detective unit district 2 and the latter with the Detective Cooperation Team, declare the .
On thursday, June 30th, we the reporting officers interviewed suspect D.S.KALPOE for further information also the suspect was taken from the police-station to identify a location.
Before the interview started, we took the suspect to identify a location and he was informed that he was not obliged to answer the questions..
The statement he made in dutch and we, the reporting officers, transcribed this statement and it went as follows;
"Although I am aware I am not obliged to answer your questions, I am willing to make a statement.
"I have just went with you to identify a location.*
On your question whether or not I have shown you the exact location where I dropped off Joran and Natalee together on the night of the 30th may, I can say the following. Where I just indicated to you is the exact location where Bc** dropped both off, (remark reporting officers, suspect D.S. KALPOE indicated to us as the location where he dropped of Joran and Natalee, the nameless road that runs in front of the most northern part of the "Marriot Hotel" at about the most northerly room.
* a typo in the original dutch text here, this is what almos certainly what was said
** don't know what the BC means but most likely it should read "where I dropped off"
The suspect showed us, reporting officers also where he left his car near the beach at Arashi to take a pee. The suspect showed us, the reporting officers as the place where he got out and went to urinate, the most southernly part of the asphalted parking place near the edge of the erected stone wall.
On your question if at the time that I got out of the car near Arashi to urinate everyone in the car was awake, I can say the following. Yes, everyone was awake. .
On your question how it is possible that no-one has declared this happened or cannot remember this happened, I can say the following. My answer is that I really did go to urinate, it really happened. The police has to ask my brother about this. I am sure that the police did not ask my brother this.
On your question whether or not I am persisting that the location where I just indicated at about/near the "Marriot Hotel" is the place where I dropped of Joran and Natalee, I can say the following. I am not sure about the route we drove to get there because it was dark. I think it is the way it happened. That it is the place where I dropped them off.
On you question if anyone observed us arriving there, I can say the following. I did not see anyone there.
On your question if I saw other cars there, I can say the following. I do not remember whether or not I saw any other cars there..
On your question regarding what time I dropped off Joran and Natalee there, I can say the following. I am not answering this question because I have previously made a statement about that.
On your question as to why I am unwilling to make a statement about this, I can say the following. I told you yesterday that I am being repeatedly asked the same questions and I am sick and tired of that.
On your question as to why I am unwilling to make a statement on this question if I am claiming to tell the truth and I need not fear making the same statement twice, I can say the following. If you give a second statement it can never be precisely the same as the previous one and the district attorney can use this as proof of me not telling the truth so that I can be held in jail even longer. It is my right to not say anything and I cannot be forced to make a statement.
D.S. KALPOE
After the suspect D.S. KALPOE had read through his statement, he declared that he wasn't going to sign his statement. He indicated that he wasn't going to because he wanted to read through the statement together with his lawyer. His request to read it with his lawyer was denied.
Of this we, the reporting officers, on our oath as officers, made this proces-verbaal on June 30th 2005.
The reporting officers.
M.R. GUMBS
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Deepak May 31
PROCES - VERBAAL
We, Dennis Dominico JACOBS and Shaniro Baldrik KELLY, head agent and sergeant at the Korps Police Force Aruba, firstly called classified at the Atraco team last mentioned district 2, explain the following at the section to multi-prevention crime classified.
On Tuesday, 31 May 2005, around 15.30 interrogated and took a witness statement from the man named:
Deepak Sharma KALPOE
born in Surinam on October 06, 1983, of profession clerk (Cyberzone Internet Cafe Seaport Marketplace) and residing in Hooiberg number xxxx on Aruba.
This statement was given in papiamento and was translated by me, JACOBS, to Dutch, was put on record and sounds as follows;
Last Sunday, around 22.45, my friend "Joran" called me on my mobile telephone number xxxxxxx . Joran has a mobile telephone with the number "xxxxxxx". Joran asked me if we would go out. He told me that he was at the Excelsior casino and that he had won third or fourth in the poker tournament. I told him that I would pick up him up later at home. (By Joran the witness means Joran Andres Petrus van der SLOOT; observation JACOBS)
On Monday, May 30 2005, around 00.00, I went to pick up Joran at his house. I went together with my brother named Satish Sharma KALPOE to pick up Joran at his house. Satish and I remained approximately15 minutes at Joran’s house. I must note that Joran lives in an apartment beside the dwelling that his parents live. Around 00.25, Satish, Joran and I left for "Carlos & Charlies". When we arrived there, all three of us walked into Carlos & Charlies. I must note that we arrived at Carlos & Charlies at around 00.40. When we walked inside, I saw approximately sixty(60) persons in the bldg. All three of us walked to the bar and Joran bought three glasses of "whisky coke". After Joran paid for this we walked around. We stood then near the dancing floor/stage for a while and I saw that several persons were dancing. I saw the white, blond haired girl dancing and that when she saw Joran she gestured with her hands to have Joran dance with her on the stage. Joran would not dance with the young lady and he continued stand beside my brother and I. Joran told me that the girl according to him was drunk. After the song was over, I saw the girl go to Joran and say to him in English “Hi, how is it goin? Why didn't you dance with me? (hello, how goes it? Why you did not dance with me; observation JACOBS) Joran started to laugh hard, but I could not hear what he answered her. Hereafter the girl tried to dance again with Joran but he refused to. The girl walked over to three girls and two boys who stood nearby. According to me these were friends of the blonde girl. Then I turned to talk with a friend myself and when I turned back my brother and Joran were no longer there. I continued to walk around in Carlos & Charlies in search of my brother and Joran but I could not find them. I knew for certain that my brother and Joran were not in Carlos & Charlies at that moment because I had looked around the whole place. At that time it was 01.00 and everyone started leaving.
On Monday, May 30, 2005, around 01.05, I walked to my car to wait for Joran and my brother. Around 01.12 Satish and Joran came to my car. My brother sat beside me in the car and then in the mirror, I saw that Joran and the blonde girl that had been dancing on the stage, sat in the back seat. I greeted the girl in English and she greeted me in English. The girl did not introduce herself. The girl then told me that I had a beautiful car and that she would like to drive around. Joran said to me that he also wanted to drive around. I drove two rounds with my car and saw that near Dunkin Dunuts, a group of the Visibility Team stood. I drove hereafter past the Royal Plaza and I saw that a group of persons stood there. When the girl saw the group of persons, she put her head outside the window and called out something to them. She called a boys name, but I no longer remember what name she called. The young person came over to my car and told her to get out of my car. I parked my car and I told the girl she should go with her friends. She refused do this and she said my car was beautiful and wanted to drive around for a while. Joran asked if she was certain that she wanted to drive around with us and the girl answered him yes. I told Joran that I didn’t think it was nice that the girl remained with us because she was drunk and I didn’t want any problems.
On the Sasakiweg (main road?) off the old Hooters bldg. Joran and the girl started kiss each other. I drove beyond the large hotels in a northern direction. When we were near the Malmok area, I saw that Joran started touching the breasts of the girl. I drove at the request of the girl in the direction of the Lighthouse, because the girl wanted to see it. After we drove up along side the Lighthouse, I returned to the Sasakiweg (main road?). Joran told me that the girl had fallen asleep. I told Joran to wake her up and ask what hotel she was staying at. I heard that the girl tell Joran the Holiday Inn. I asked Joran if the girl said the Holiday Inn and Joran said yes. I drove hereafter in the direction of the Holiday Inn and parked my car at the second column at the hotel. (?) I heard the car door open and turned around to see who got out. I saw the girl got out and fell on the ground. Joran also got out of the car and tried to help the girl stand up I saw that Joran held the girl at her shoulders and started to walk in the direction of the lobby. I saw that the girl turned to Joran and pushed him away. I saw that Joran turned around and came back to my car. I saw that the girl was headed to the inside of the lobby, then I started to drive away. The last thing I saw was the girl walk up to a large dark man, who was wearing a black t-shirt and carried a “walkie talkie” in his hands. Joran told me also that the guard had taken over the girl and that we could drive away. Around 02.15 we had dropped Joran at his house then afterwards I drove with my brother to my house. We arrived at home around 02.30.
On your question if I can give you a better description of the large dark man, who had walked up to the girl from the lobby, I can tell you the following:
- he is approximately 1.85 meters tall;
- he has a heavy set body;
- he has close-cropped hair;
- he wore a black t-shirt;
- he wore a black cotton long trousers which most of the keepers use and
- he kept walkie talkie in its hands and according to me he spoke by means of the walkie talkie.
If I see the guard again, I will recognize him.
On your question if Joran and the girl had stepped from my car at the Fisherman’s Huts and walked by the sea;
I will answer you no.
On your question if my brother has a mobile telephone:
I will answer you yes. My brother has a mobile telephone with the number "xxxxxxx".
On your question if you can me tell what the girl wore, I answer you the following:
She wore a blue jeans skirt and she wore a pale blue blouse. I wore a blue nail trousers and a red top. (With the girl it is meant the missing woman called Natalee Ann HOLLOWAY; observation JACOBS)
On your question if I have used narcotic substances with the girl:
I answer you no. I also have not seen the girl use narcotic substances.
If you still have more questions, I will be prepared to answer them.
D.S. KALPOE
After the witness D.S KALPOE was given his statement to read, he agreed to sign it.
This of our statement, on oath of office made up this warrant, has been closed and has been signed at Bubali, on Aruba on May 31, 2005.
Signed,
D.D. JACOBS S.B. KELLY
PROCES - VERBAAL
We, Dennis Dominico JACOBS and Shaniro Baldrik KELLY, head agent and sergeant at the Korps Police Force Aruba, firstly called classified at the Atraco team last mentioned district 2, explain the following at the section to multi-prevention crime classified.
On Tuesday, 31 May 2005, around 15.30 interrogated and took a witness statement from the man named:
Deepak Sharma KALPOE
born in Surinam on October 06, 1983, of profession clerk (Cyberzone Internet Cafe Seaport Marketplace) and residing in Hooiberg number xxxx on Aruba.
This statement was given in papiamento and was translated by me, JACOBS, to Dutch, was put on record and sounds as follows;
Last Sunday, around 22.45, my friend "Joran" called me on my mobile telephone number xxxxxxx . Joran has a mobile telephone with the number "xxxxxxx". Joran asked me if we would go out. He told me that he was at the Excelsior casino and that he had won third or fourth in the poker tournament. I told him that I would pick up him up later at home. (By Joran the witness means Joran Andres Petrus van der SLOOT; observation JACOBS)
On Monday, May 30 2005, around 00.00, I went to pick up Joran at his house. I went together with my brother named Satish Sharma KALPOE to pick up Joran at his house. Satish and I remained approximately15 minutes at Joran’s house. I must note that Joran lives in an apartment beside the dwelling that his parents live. Around 00.25, Satish, Joran and I left for "Carlos & Charlies". When we arrived there, all three of us walked into Carlos & Charlies. I must note that we arrived at Carlos & Charlies at around 00.40. When we walked inside, I saw approximately sixty(60) persons in the bldg. All three of us walked to the bar and Joran bought three glasses of "whisky coke". After Joran paid for this we walked around. We stood then near the dancing floor/stage for a while and I saw that several persons were dancing. I saw the white, blond haired girl dancing and that when she saw Joran she gestured with her hands to have Joran dance with her on the stage. Joran would not dance with the young lady and he continued stand beside my brother and I. Joran told me that the girl according to him was drunk. After the song was over, I saw the girl go to Joran and say to him in English “Hi, how is it goin? Why didn't you dance with me? (hello, how goes it? Why you did not dance with me; observation JACOBS) Joran started to laugh hard, but I could not hear what he answered her. Hereafter the girl tried to dance again with Joran but he refused to. The girl walked over to three girls and two boys who stood nearby. According to me these were friends of the blonde girl. Then I turned to talk with a friend myself and when I turned back my brother and Joran were no longer there. I continued to walk around in Carlos & Charlies in search of my brother and Joran but I could not find them. I knew for certain that my brother and Joran were not in Carlos & Charlies at that moment because I had looked around the whole place. At that time it was 01.00 and everyone started leaving.
On Monday, May 30, 2005, around 01.05, I walked to my car to wait for Joran and my brother. Around 01.12 Satish and Joran came to my car. My brother sat beside me in the car and then in the mirror, I saw that Joran and the blonde girl that had been dancing on the stage, sat in the back seat. I greeted the girl in English and she greeted me in English. The girl did not introduce herself. The girl then told me that I had a beautiful car and that she would like to drive around. Joran said to me that he also wanted to drive around. I drove two rounds with my car and saw that near Dunkin Dunuts, a group of the Visibility Team stood. I drove hereafter past the Royal Plaza and I saw that a group of persons stood there. When the girl saw the group of persons, she put her head outside the window and called out something to them. She called a boys name, but I no longer remember what name she called. The young person came over to my car and told her to get out of my car. I parked my car and I told the girl she should go with her friends. She refused do this and she said my car was beautiful and wanted to drive around for a while. Joran asked if she was certain that she wanted to drive around with us and the girl answered him yes. I told Joran that I didn’t think it was nice that the girl remained with us because she was drunk and I didn’t want any problems.
On the Sasakiweg (main road?) off the old Hooters bldg. Joran and the girl started kiss each other. I drove beyond the large hotels in a northern direction. When we were near the Malmok area, I saw that Joran started touching the breasts of the girl. I drove at the request of the girl in the direction of the Lighthouse, because the girl wanted to see it. After we drove up along side the Lighthouse, I returned to the Sasakiweg (main road?). Joran told me that the girl had fallen asleep. I told Joran to wake her up and ask what hotel she was staying at. I heard that the girl tell Joran the Holiday Inn. I asked Joran if the girl said the Holiday Inn and Joran said yes. I drove hereafter in the direction of the Holiday Inn and parked my car at the second column at the hotel. (?) I heard the car door open and turned around to see who got out. I saw the girl got out and fell on the ground. Joran also got out of the car and tried to help the girl stand up I saw that Joran held the girl at her shoulders and started to walk in the direction of the lobby. I saw that the girl turned to Joran and pushed him away. I saw that Joran turned around and came back to my car. I saw that the girl was headed to the inside of the lobby, then I started to drive away. The last thing I saw was the girl walk up to a large dark man, who was wearing a black t-shirt and carried a “walkie talkie” in his hands. Joran told me also that the guard had taken over the girl and that we could drive away. Around 02.15 we had dropped Joran at his house then afterwards I drove with my brother to my house. We arrived at home around 02.30.
On your question if I can give you a better description of the large dark man, who had walked up to the girl from the lobby, I can tell you the following:
- he is approximately 1.85 meters tall;
- he has a heavy set body;
- he has close-cropped hair;
- he wore a black t-shirt;
- he wore a black cotton long trousers which most of the keepers use and
- he kept walkie talkie in its hands and according to me he spoke by means of the walkie talkie.
If I see the guard again, I will recognize him.
On your question if Joran and the girl had stepped from my car at the Fisherman’s Huts and walked by the sea;
I will answer you no.
On your question if my brother has a mobile telephone:
I will answer you yes. My brother has a mobile telephone with the number "xxxxxxx".
On your question if you can me tell what the girl wore, I answer you the following:
She wore a blue jeans skirt and she wore a pale blue blouse. I wore a blue nail trousers and a red top. (With the girl it is meant the missing woman called Natalee Ann HOLLOWAY; observation JACOBS)
On your question if I have used narcotic substances with the girl:
I answer you no. I also have not seen the girl use narcotic substances.
If you still have more questions, I will be prepared to answer them.
D.S. KALPOE
After the witness D.S KALPOE was given his statement to read, he agreed to sign it.
This of our statement, on oath of office made up this warrant, has been closed and has been signed at Bubali, on Aruba on May 31, 2005.
Signed,
D.D. JACOBS S.B. KELLY
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Satish May 31
PROCES – VERBAAL
I, Dennis Dominico JACOBS, head agent at the Korps Police force Aruba and at the Atraco team classified, explain the following.
On Tuesday, May 31, 2005, at 19:20, I interrogated and took a witness statement from the man named:
Satish Sharma KALPOE
born in Surinam on July 30 1986, without profession student at (H4I Colegio Arubano) and residing in xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on Aruba.
Are in Dutch taken off declaration by me, JACOBS, in Dutch it was translated, were put on record and sound as follows:
"last Sunday, around 22.00, I picked up my brother Deepak at his work. My brother works at the Internet Cafe established in the Seaport Marketplace. After I had picked up my brother, we drove home. When we arrived at home, Deepak asked me if I wanted to go with him and Joran to Carlos & Charlies. I answered yes, I would to with them to Carlos & Charlies. (With Deepak and Joran the witnesses Deepak Sharma KALPOE and Joran Andreas Petrus van der SLOOT is meant: observation JACOBS) Around 23.30 Deepak and I went to pick up Joran at its house. I don’t know his address not but I can designate to you his house. Then Deepak and I arrived at Joran’s house and we walked in to his apartment, because Joran was busy finishing with homework and printing. After Joran was ready, all three of us left for Carlos & Charlies. Around 11.45 we stepped into the bldg.. I saw that there was 60 or 70 persons in the bldg.. All three of us walked to the bar and my brother Deepak bought a whisky coke for me and also a drink for himself. Joran also bought an alcoholic drink for himself. We stood then at the dancing floor/stage for a while and I saw that several persons were dancing. I saw that white blonde haired girl was dancing and then she saw Joran and came over to him and said to him in English: Hi, how are you? (Hello, how goes it?; observation JACOBS) Joran started to dance hereafter with white girl with blonde hair. I only walked around then. According to me my brother with Joran lagged behind. I walked around in the bldg. of Carlos & Charlies but I did not run to (?). After I had walked around, I met Deepak and Joran at the dancing floor/stage. Then the three of us agreed that it was too boring at Carlos & Charlies and that we would go to the house (home?). I saw that Joran was talking with the white girl.
On Monday, May 30, 2005, around 01:15, we walked with our guest to Deepak’s car. I with my brother in the front of his car. Joran sat with the white girl in the back seat. The girl spoke with Deepak and not with me. My brother drove twice around with his car and I saw that near Dunkin Donuts a group of the Visibility Team stood. My brother drove then past the Royal Plaza and I saw that a group persons stood there. When the girl saw persons in the group, she opened the window and she greeted them. In the car, the white blonde said girl said to Joran that they should go to the North side of Aruba to see sharks. Deepak decided to drive to the North side of Aruba so that the girl could see sharks. I saw that when we were on the way to the Lighthouse, Joran was kissing and started fingering the girl. I could not hear what Joran and the girl said because the music in the car was very loud. When we arrived at the Lighthouse, I asked my brother if Joran and the girl would get out of the car to see the sharks. I told my brother that Joran and the little girl were kissing and that they probably would not leave the car. I asked Joran to find out from the girl where she was staying so we could take her back. I the girl told Joran where she was staying and I heard the girl tell him she stayed at the Holiday Inn hotel. Then my brother drove to the Holiday Inn to drop the girl off there.
Around 01.45, we arrived at the Holiday Inn hotel. My brother parked his car at north of the two entryways which are parallel to the lobby of the hotel. The girl stepped out of the car and she fell on the ground because she was very drunk. I saw that Joran got out of the car to help the girl. I saw that he held her under her armpits so that she could stand. After the girl was standing, she pushed Joran. I heard the girl say in a very angry tone to Joran in English: I can stand on my own. (I can only stand up; observation JACOBS) I saw that the girl walked in the direction of the hotel lobby. Before the girl got to the lobby Deepak drove away by means of the second entryway. While driving away I saw that a dark skinned guard who was dressed in black went to the girl and started to talk. I saw also that the guard had a walkie talkie in his hands.
Around 02.15, Deepak dropped Joran off at home and around 02.45 Deepak and I were home and when we arrived at home we went to sleep.
On your question if I you can give you the description of large dark guard, who stood at the lobby and walked up to the girl when we arrived there, I will answer you the following:
- he is approximately 1.70 meters tall;
- he has a strong build;
- he has close-cropped black hair;
- he wore a black t-shirt;
- he wore black cotton long trousers which most of the guards wear and
- he held a walkie talkie in his hands
If I see the guard again, I will not recognize him.
On your question if Joran and the girl had gotten out of the car at the Fisherman’s Huts and walked by the sea;
I answer you no. Joran and the girl never got out of Deepak’s car.
On your question if my brother has a mobile telephone;
I answer you yes. My brother has a mobile telephone with the number "xxxxxxx". I have a mobile telephone with the number "xxxxxxx".
On your question if you can me tell what the girl was wearing, I answer you the following:
She wore a blue blouse and a skirt. I wore brown long trousers, a blue cap and a blue pullover. She had light straight hair and these gevlecht (?) were not. (With the girl the missing woman Natalee Ann HOLLOWAY is meant; observation JACOBS.)
On your question if I have used narcotic substances with the girl:
I answer you no. I also did not see the girl use narcotic substances.
If you still have more questions, I will prepare to answer them.
S.S. KALPOE,
After the witness S.S. KALPOE was given and read his statement he agreed to sign it.
This of my statement, on oath of office made up this warrant, has been closed and has been signed at Bubali, on Aruba on May 31, 2005.
Signed,
D.D. JACOBS
PROCES – VERBAAL
I, Dennis Dominico JACOBS, head agent at the Korps Police force Aruba and at the Atraco team classified, explain the following.
On Tuesday, May 31, 2005, at 19:20, I interrogated and took a witness statement from the man named:
Satish Sharma KALPOE
born in Surinam on July 30 1986, without profession student at (H4I Colegio Arubano) and residing in xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on Aruba.
Are in Dutch taken off declaration by me, JACOBS, in Dutch it was translated, were put on record and sound as follows:
"last Sunday, around 22.00, I picked up my brother Deepak at his work. My brother works at the Internet Cafe established in the Seaport Marketplace. After I had picked up my brother, we drove home. When we arrived at home, Deepak asked me if I wanted to go with him and Joran to Carlos & Charlies. I answered yes, I would to with them to Carlos & Charlies. (With Deepak and Joran the witnesses Deepak Sharma KALPOE and Joran Andreas Petrus van der SLOOT is meant: observation JACOBS) Around 23.30 Deepak and I went to pick up Joran at its house. I don’t know his address not but I can designate to you his house. Then Deepak and I arrived at Joran’s house and we walked in to his apartment, because Joran was busy finishing with homework and printing. After Joran was ready, all three of us left for Carlos & Charlies. Around 11.45 we stepped into the bldg.. I saw that there was 60 or 70 persons in the bldg.. All three of us walked to the bar and my brother Deepak bought a whisky coke for me and also a drink for himself. Joran also bought an alcoholic drink for himself. We stood then at the dancing floor/stage for a while and I saw that several persons were dancing. I saw that white blonde haired girl was dancing and then she saw Joran and came over to him and said to him in English: Hi, how are you? (Hello, how goes it?; observation JACOBS) Joran started to dance hereafter with white girl with blonde hair. I only walked around then. According to me my brother with Joran lagged behind. I walked around in the bldg. of Carlos & Charlies but I did not run to (?). After I had walked around, I met Deepak and Joran at the dancing floor/stage. Then the three of us agreed that it was too boring at Carlos & Charlies and that we would go to the house (home?). I saw that Joran was talking with the white girl.
On Monday, May 30, 2005, around 01:15, we walked with our guest to Deepak’s car. I with my brother in the front of his car. Joran sat with the white girl in the back seat. The girl spoke with Deepak and not with me. My brother drove twice around with his car and I saw that near Dunkin Donuts a group of the Visibility Team stood. My brother drove then past the Royal Plaza and I saw that a group persons stood there. When the girl saw persons in the group, she opened the window and she greeted them. In the car, the white blonde said girl said to Joran that they should go to the North side of Aruba to see sharks. Deepak decided to drive to the North side of Aruba so that the girl could see sharks. I saw that when we were on the way to the Lighthouse, Joran was kissing and started fingering the girl. I could not hear what Joran and the girl said because the music in the car was very loud. When we arrived at the Lighthouse, I asked my brother if Joran and the girl would get out of the car to see the sharks. I told my brother that Joran and the little girl were kissing and that they probably would not leave the car. I asked Joran to find out from the girl where she was staying so we could take her back. I the girl told Joran where she was staying and I heard the girl tell him she stayed at the Holiday Inn hotel. Then my brother drove to the Holiday Inn to drop the girl off there.
Around 01.45, we arrived at the Holiday Inn hotel. My brother parked his car at north of the two entryways which are parallel to the lobby of the hotel. The girl stepped out of the car and she fell on the ground because she was very drunk. I saw that Joran got out of the car to help the girl. I saw that he held her under her armpits so that she could stand. After the girl was standing, she pushed Joran. I heard the girl say in a very angry tone to Joran in English: I can stand on my own. (I can only stand up; observation JACOBS) I saw that the girl walked in the direction of the hotel lobby. Before the girl got to the lobby Deepak drove away by means of the second entryway. While driving away I saw that a dark skinned guard who was dressed in black went to the girl and started to talk. I saw also that the guard had a walkie talkie in his hands.
Around 02.15, Deepak dropped Joran off at home and around 02.45 Deepak and I were home and when we arrived at home we went to sleep.
On your question if I you can give you the description of large dark guard, who stood at the lobby and walked up to the girl when we arrived there, I will answer you the following:
- he is approximately 1.70 meters tall;
- he has a strong build;
- he has close-cropped black hair;
- he wore a black t-shirt;
- he wore black cotton long trousers which most of the guards wear and
- he held a walkie talkie in his hands
If I see the guard again, I will not recognize him.
On your question if Joran and the girl had gotten out of the car at the Fisherman’s Huts and walked by the sea;
I answer you no. Joran and the girl never got out of Deepak’s car.
On your question if my brother has a mobile telephone;
I answer you yes. My brother has a mobile telephone with the number "xxxxxxx". I have a mobile telephone with the number "xxxxxxx".
On your question if you can me tell what the girl was wearing, I answer you the following:
She wore a blue blouse and a skirt. I wore brown long trousers, a blue cap and a blue pullover. She had light straight hair and these gevlecht (?) were not. (With the girl the missing woman Natalee Ann HOLLOWAY is meant; observation JACOBS.)
On your question if I have used narcotic substances with the girl:
I answer you no. I also did not see the girl use narcotic substances.
If you still have more questions, I will prepare to answer them.
S.S. KALPOE,
After the witness S.S. KALPOE was given and read his statement he agreed to sign it.
This of my statement, on oath of office made up this warrant, has been closed and has been signed at Bubali, on Aruba on May 31, 2005.
Signed,
D.D. JACOBS
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Satish June 9
PROCES-VERBAAL
We, Juan Enrique BOEZEN and Shaniro Baldrik KELLY, respectively head officer first class and sergeant with the Korps Politie Aruba and both attached to the detective squad District 2, declare the following.
On June 9th 2005, at approximately 12:00 hours, we, BOEZEM and KELLY, interviewed suspect Satish Sharma KALPOE.
Before the interview started we, BOEZEM and KELLY, informed the suspect in dutch that he was not obliged to make a statement.
The statement he made was in dutch and translated into dutch and transcribed by me, KELLY, and it goes as follows;
"I was informed of my rights. I already made a statement at the police station in Bubali. The statement I made at the police station in Bubali is the truth. I have nothing further to state.
To your question whether I in the past had to deal with the police I have the following to state. This is the first time I have had anything to do with the police".
w.n.g. S.S.KALPOE
After the suspect had read the statement, he stated the following: "I will not sign this statement. I first want my lawyer to read this statement."
Of this we, BOEZEM and KELLY, on our oath as officers, have made this proces-verbaal, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 9th 2005.
The reporting officers.
J.E. BOEZEM S.B. KELLY
PROCES-VERBAAL
We, Juan Enrique BOEZEN and Shaniro Baldrik KELLY, respectively head officer first class and sergeant with the Korps Politie Aruba and both attached to the detective squad District 2, declare the following.
On June 9th 2005, at approximately 12:00 hours, we, BOEZEM and KELLY, interviewed suspect Satish Sharma KALPOE.
Before the interview started we, BOEZEM and KELLY, informed the suspect in dutch that he was not obliged to make a statement.
The statement he made was in dutch and translated into dutch and transcribed by me, KELLY, and it goes as follows;
"I was informed of my rights. I already made a statement at the police station in Bubali. The statement I made at the police station in Bubali is the truth. I have nothing further to state.
To your question whether I in the past had to deal with the police I have the following to state. This is the first time I have had anything to do with the police".
w.n.g. S.S.KALPOE
After the suspect had read the statement, he stated the following: "I will not sign this statement. I first want my lawyer to read this statement."
Of this we, BOEZEM and KELLY, on our oath as officers, have made this proces-verbaal, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 9th 2005.
The reporting officers.
J.E. BOEZEM S.B. KELLY
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by JD » Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:16 am
Satish June 10
We, Juan Enrique Boezen and Shaniro Baldrik KELLY, respectively head officer first class and sergeant with the Korps Politie Aruba and both attached to the detective squad District 2, declare the following.
On June 10th 2005, at approximately 12:20 hours, we, BOEZEM and KELLY, interviewed the suspect Satish Sharma KALPOE.
Before the interview started, we, BOEZEM and KELLY, informed the suspect in dutch that he was not obliged to answers questions.
The statement that he made in dutch was transcribed and translated in dutch by me, KELLY, and goes as follows:
"I was informed of my rights. I am still going to stand by the statement I made as a witness at the police station in Bubali. I do remember now that my brother had told me. Last week Friday my brother told me that the man Steve had seen us when we dropped off Natalee Holloway that night at the Holiday Inn Hotel. My brother Deepak told me that Steve had said to him that he had seen us. I myself do not know Steve. My brother thinks that Steve works at Digicel. I don't personally know Steve. I have never seen Steve. According to my brother Steve had told him that he had dropped off people at the Holiday Inn on Monday May 30th at approximately 01.45 hours. My brother has also told me that Steve was also in Carlos & Charlies that night. My brother also told me that Steve also had seen us coming out of Carlos & Charlies with the girl Natalee. On that particular day it was going from a Sunday to a Monday and it wasn't busy at that moment in time. The traffic wasn't busy either at that moment in time. It was approximately 01.15 hours when we came out of Carlos & Charlies. When we were leaving Carlos & Charlies we immediately walked towards the car. I think that the girl briefly talked to her friends that were standing in front of Carlos & Charlies. Joran was with her and I think he too briefly waited for her. According to my brother Steve was supposed to work that night and he had quietly slipped out to go to Carlos & Charlies. My brother did not tell to me in what kind of car Steve drives. My brother also told me that Steve had also seen that the girl Natalee had fallen down from the car and that Joran had gone to help her get up. According to me Steve had told my brother that he was dropping off tourists at the Holiday Inn Hotel that night. I did not ask my brother what kind of car Steve drives and he also did not tell me that. On May 29th 2005 we arrived at Carlos & Charlies between 23.30 hours and 23.45 hours. That night at Carlos & Charlies we each drank a "Yard". I only had a "Yard" that night in Carlos & Charlies. My brother also only had one "Yard". Joran had drunk a "Yard" and a "body shot". Joran also had a shot of another drink. I do not know what kind of drink that is. I saw that the girl Natalee also drank a shot of the drink together with Joran. We that night left Carlos & Charlies at approximately 01.15.
w.n.g. S.S. KALPOE
After the suspect had read through the above statement he declared the following: "I will not sign this statement. I first want my lawyer to read through the statement".
Of this we, BOEZEM and KELLY, on our oath as officers, have made this proces-verbaal, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 10th 2005.
The reporting officers
J.E. BOEZEM S.B. KELLY
We, Juan Enrique Boezen and Shaniro Baldrik KELLY, respectively head officer first class and sergeant with the Korps Politie Aruba and both attached to the detective squad District 2, declare the following.
On June 10th 2005, at approximately 12:20 hours, we, BOEZEM and KELLY, interviewed the suspect Satish Sharma KALPOE.
Before the interview started, we, BOEZEM and KELLY, informed the suspect in dutch that he was not obliged to answers questions.
The statement that he made in dutch was transcribed and translated in dutch by me, KELLY, and goes as follows:
"I was informed of my rights. I am still going to stand by the statement I made as a witness at the police station in Bubali. I do remember now that my brother had told me. Last week Friday my brother told me that the man Steve had seen us when we dropped off Natalee Holloway that night at the Holiday Inn Hotel. My brother Deepak told me that Steve had said to him that he had seen us. I myself do not know Steve. My brother thinks that Steve works at Digicel. I don't personally know Steve. I have never seen Steve. According to my brother Steve had told him that he had dropped off people at the Holiday Inn on Monday May 30th at approximately 01.45 hours. My brother has also told me that Steve was also in Carlos & Charlies that night. My brother also told me that Steve also had seen us coming out of Carlos & Charlies with the girl Natalee. On that particular day it was going from a Sunday to a Monday and it wasn't busy at that moment in time. The traffic wasn't busy either at that moment in time. It was approximately 01.15 hours when we came out of Carlos & Charlies. When we were leaving Carlos & Charlies we immediately walked towards the car. I think that the girl briefly talked to her friends that were standing in front of Carlos & Charlies. Joran was with her and I think he too briefly waited for her. According to my brother Steve was supposed to work that night and he had quietly slipped out to go to Carlos & Charlies. My brother did not tell to me in what kind of car Steve drives. My brother also told me that Steve had also seen that the girl Natalee had fallen down from the car and that Joran had gone to help her get up. According to me Steve had told my brother that he was dropping off tourists at the Holiday Inn Hotel that night. I did not ask my brother what kind of car Steve drives and he also did not tell me that. On May 29th 2005 we arrived at Carlos & Charlies between 23.30 hours and 23.45 hours. That night at Carlos & Charlies we each drank a "Yard". I only had a "Yard" that night in Carlos & Charlies. My brother also only had one "Yard". Joran had drunk a "Yard" and a "body shot". Joran also had a shot of another drink. I do not know what kind of drink that is. I saw that the girl Natalee also drank a shot of the drink together with Joran. We that night left Carlos & Charlies at approximately 01.15.
w.n.g. S.S. KALPOE
After the suspect had read through the above statement he declared the following: "I will not sign this statement. I first want my lawyer to read through the statement".
Of this we, BOEZEM and KELLY, on our oath as officers, have made this proces-verbaal, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 10th 2005.
The reporting officers
J.E. BOEZEM S.B. KELLY
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by JD » Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:20 am
Satish June 10
PROCES-VERBAAL
We, Juan Enrique BOEZEM and Shaniro Baldrik KELLY, respectively head officer and sergeant with the Korps Politie Aruba, both attached to the detective squad District 2, declare/state the following.
On June 10th 2005 at approximately 15.55 hours we, BOEZEM and KELLY, interviewed the suspect Satish .S. KALPOE, for further information.
Before starting with the interview, the suspect Satish S. KALPOE was informed of his rights.
His interview went as follows;
"I have been informed of my rights"
What are all the things you did on Sunday May 29th 2005?
I came home Sunday May 29th at approximately 03.00. I had been out with my brother Deepak and Joran. I had woken up between 11.00 hours and 12.00 hours that morning.
Where had the three of you gone on the night from Saturday night to Sunday night on May 28th 2005?
We had gone to Carlos & Charlies.
Was it just the three of you who had gone to Carlos & Charlies on Saturday May 28th 2005?
Yes, it was just the three of us that went to Carlos & Charlies.
Did you see Natalee who now is missing in Carlos & Charlies on that Saturday night May 28th 2005 going into Sunday morning May 29th 2005?
No, on that day I did not see Natalee. Natalee was an unknown person to me that night. I had not seen Natalee at all in Carlos & Charlies in the night from Saturday to Sunday.
Had you been drinking a lot on the night from Saturday to Sunday?
No, we had not had a lot to drink. I do not exactly remember how much we drank. It has been approximately two weeks ago.
How late did you leave the premises of Carlos & Charlies that day?
That day we had left Carlos & Charlies at approximately 02.30 hours.
When you left Carlos & Charlies, were there just the three of you?
Yes, we left Carlos & Charlies with just the three of us.
After you left Carlos & Charlies, were did the three of you go?
After we left Carlos & Charlies, we first dropped off Joran at his place and then we went home. According to me my brother Deepak was driving the car. We arrived at home at approximately 03.00 hours.
On that Sunday May 29th 2005, did you go out during the day?
I only left the house at approximately 13.30 hours to drop off my brother at work at the Sea Port Market Place.
How late did you go and pick your brother up from work?
At approximately 21.45 I had gone to town to pick up my brother where he worked.
Did you keep/stay with your brothers car on that Sunday May 29th 2005?
Yes, I kept/stayed with my brothers car.
It is normal that I drop my brother off at work and then keep/stay with his car. There was no specific reason why I kept/stayed with his car.
What kind of a car does Deepak have?
My brother has a Honda Civic, colour grey, built in 1999 I think and I don't know the license plate number.
When did Deepak buy the car?
According to me Deepak bought the car two years ago. I don't know when exactly.
From who did Deepak buy this car?
Deepak bought the car from a boy named David. I don't know further details about David. David lives on Aruba.
Who's idea/plan was it to go to Carlos & Charlies?
When we were sitting in the car, driving towards our home, my brother Deepak asked me if we could go to Carlos & Charlies with Joran. I agreed then to go to Carlos & Charlies.
Did you have to go to school the next day?
Yes, I had to go to school the next day.
At what time did your school start?
My school would start at 10.30 on Monday May 30th 2005.
Did you go to school on Monday May 30th 2005?
No, I did not go to school on Monday May 30th 2005.
Why did you not go to school?
I was woken up late that day by my mother. I had told my mother to wake me up in order to go to school but she had gone to bed too late and had woken up late herself.
How late did you wake up on Monday May 30th 2005?
I woke up at 11.00 hours on Monday May 30th 2005.
Was Deepak home when you woke up?
Yes, Deepak was home when I woke up.
Did Deepak go out during the day on Monday May 30th 2005?
No, Deepak did not go out that day.
Did Deepak have to work on Monday May 30th 2005?
Yes, Deepak had started working at 16.00 hours and had to work till 23.00 hours. I had brought Deepak to work myself. I also picked him up at 23.00 hours.
Did you call Joran on Monday May 30th 2005?
No, I did not contact Joran.
Was your brother contacted by Joran?
I do not know if Joran contacted my brother.
Did Deepak go out with Joran on Monday May 30th 2005?
Yes, when we got home in the nightly hours of Monday May 30th 2005, Deepak told me that he would be going to the casino with Joran. Deepak left alone to pick up Joran to go to the casino.
What did you do then?
I went to sleep because I had to go to school the next day.
How late did you wake up on Tuesday?
I had awoken at approximately 06.30 hours on Tuesday.
Was Deepak home at that time?
Deepak had just come home. I had asked Deepak where he had been. Deepak then told me he came from the police station. Deepak told me that he had to go to the police station because of the girl that had been with us on Sunday May 29th 2005.
What did you say to Deepak when he had informed/told you that the girl from Sunday went missing?
I had told my brother that this was impossible because we had dropped her off at the hotel. Deepak said that he too did not know how the girl went/was missing.
Did Deepak work on Tuesday?
No, Deepak was off on Tuesday.
How late did you arrive in Carlos & Charlies on Sunday May 29th 2005?
We had arrived at approximately 23.30 in Carlos & Charlies on that Sunday.
How did you meet/get to know the girl in Carlos & Charlies?
I have nothing more to state about that day.
Did Joran introduce the girl to you?
I don't know.
What did you (remark by the translator, you is mean plural here) when you were there?
I have no statement to make.
Till what time did you stay in Carlos & Charlies?
I have no statement to make.
Did the girl drink in Carlos & Charlies?
I have no statement to make.
What route did you take to the "Light House"? The Sasaki road or the road passing in front of Eagle Beach?
I have no statement to make.
How fast was your brother driving when he was driving towards the "Light House"?
I have no statement to make.
Are you 100% sure, that you dropped off the girl at the Holiday Inn?
I have no statement to make.
Why did you not help to try and find the girl after you had heard that she had gone missing?
I have nothing more to state.
At what time did you come home the night in question?
I have no statement to make.
When you had arrived home, what did you (remark by translator, plural) do?
I have no statement to make.
After the suspect S.S. KALPOE had read through his statement, he stated that he would not sign the statement. The reason for that is that his lawyer first has to read the statement.
Of this we, BOEZEM and KELLY, on our oath of officers, have made this proces-verbaal, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 10th 2005.
The reporting officers
J.E. BOEZEM S.B. KELLY
PROCES-VERBAAL
We, Juan Enrique BOEZEM and Shaniro Baldrik KELLY, respectively head officer and sergeant with the Korps Politie Aruba, both attached to the detective squad District 2, declare/state the following.
On June 10th 2005 at approximately 15.55 hours we, BOEZEM and KELLY, interviewed the suspect Satish .S. KALPOE, for further information.
Before starting with the interview, the suspect Satish S. KALPOE was informed of his rights.
His interview went as follows;
"I have been informed of my rights"
What are all the things you did on Sunday May 29th 2005?
I came home Sunday May 29th at approximately 03.00. I had been out with my brother Deepak and Joran. I had woken up between 11.00 hours and 12.00 hours that morning.
Where had the three of you gone on the night from Saturday night to Sunday night on May 28th 2005?
We had gone to Carlos & Charlies.
Was it just the three of you who had gone to Carlos & Charlies on Saturday May 28th 2005?
Yes, it was just the three of us that went to Carlos & Charlies.
Did you see Natalee who now is missing in Carlos & Charlies on that Saturday night May 28th 2005 going into Sunday morning May 29th 2005?
No, on that day I did not see Natalee. Natalee was an unknown person to me that night. I had not seen Natalee at all in Carlos & Charlies in the night from Saturday to Sunday.
Had you been drinking a lot on the night from Saturday to Sunday?
No, we had not had a lot to drink. I do not exactly remember how much we drank. It has been approximately two weeks ago.
How late did you leave the premises of Carlos & Charlies that day?
That day we had left Carlos & Charlies at approximately 02.30 hours.
When you left Carlos & Charlies, were there just the three of you?
Yes, we left Carlos & Charlies with just the three of us.
After you left Carlos & Charlies, were did the three of you go?
After we left Carlos & Charlies, we first dropped off Joran at his place and then we went home. According to me my brother Deepak was driving the car. We arrived at home at approximately 03.00 hours.
On that Sunday May 29th 2005, did you go out during the day?
I only left the house at approximately 13.30 hours to drop off my brother at work at the Sea Port Market Place.
How late did you go and pick your brother up from work?
At approximately 21.45 I had gone to town to pick up my brother where he worked.
Did you keep/stay with your brothers car on that Sunday May 29th 2005?
Yes, I kept/stayed with my brothers car.
It is normal that I drop my brother off at work and then keep/stay with his car. There was no specific reason why I kept/stayed with his car.
What kind of a car does Deepak have?
My brother has a Honda Civic, colour grey, built in 1999 I think and I don't know the license plate number.
When did Deepak buy the car?
According to me Deepak bought the car two years ago. I don't know when exactly.
From who did Deepak buy this car?
Deepak bought the car from a boy named David. I don't know further details about David. David lives on Aruba.
Who's idea/plan was it to go to Carlos & Charlies?
When we were sitting in the car, driving towards our home, my brother Deepak asked me if we could go to Carlos & Charlies with Joran. I agreed then to go to Carlos & Charlies.
Did you have to go to school the next day?
Yes, I had to go to school the next day.
At what time did your school start?
My school would start at 10.30 on Monday May 30th 2005.
Did you go to school on Monday May 30th 2005?
No, I did not go to school on Monday May 30th 2005.
Why did you not go to school?
I was woken up late that day by my mother. I had told my mother to wake me up in order to go to school but she had gone to bed too late and had woken up late herself.
How late did you wake up on Monday May 30th 2005?
I woke up at 11.00 hours on Monday May 30th 2005.
Was Deepak home when you woke up?
Yes, Deepak was home when I woke up.
Did Deepak go out during the day on Monday May 30th 2005?
No, Deepak did not go out that day.
Did Deepak have to work on Monday May 30th 2005?
Yes, Deepak had started working at 16.00 hours and had to work till 23.00 hours. I had brought Deepak to work myself. I also picked him up at 23.00 hours.
Did you call Joran on Monday May 30th 2005?
No, I did not contact Joran.
Was your brother contacted by Joran?
I do not know if Joran contacted my brother.
Did Deepak go out with Joran on Monday May 30th 2005?
Yes, when we got home in the nightly hours of Monday May 30th 2005, Deepak told me that he would be going to the casino with Joran. Deepak left alone to pick up Joran to go to the casino.
What did you do then?
I went to sleep because I had to go to school the next day.
How late did you wake up on Tuesday?
I had awoken at approximately 06.30 hours on Tuesday.
Was Deepak home at that time?
Deepak had just come home. I had asked Deepak where he had been. Deepak then told me he came from the police station. Deepak told me that he had to go to the police station because of the girl that had been with us on Sunday May 29th 2005.
What did you say to Deepak when he had informed/told you that the girl from Sunday went missing?
I had told my brother that this was impossible because we had dropped her off at the hotel. Deepak said that he too did not know how the girl went/was missing.
Did Deepak work on Tuesday?
No, Deepak was off on Tuesday.
How late did you arrive in Carlos & Charlies on Sunday May 29th 2005?
We had arrived at approximately 23.30 in Carlos & Charlies on that Sunday.
How did you meet/get to know the girl in Carlos & Charlies?
I have nothing more to state about that day.
Did Joran introduce the girl to you?
I don't know.
What did you (remark by the translator, you is mean plural here) when you were there?
I have no statement to make.
Till what time did you stay in Carlos & Charlies?
I have no statement to make.
Did the girl drink in Carlos & Charlies?
I have no statement to make.
What route did you take to the "Light House"? The Sasaki road or the road passing in front of Eagle Beach?
I have no statement to make.
How fast was your brother driving when he was driving towards the "Light House"?
I have no statement to make.
Are you 100% sure, that you dropped off the girl at the Holiday Inn?
I have no statement to make.
Why did you not help to try and find the girl after you had heard that she had gone missing?
I have nothing more to state.
At what time did you come home the night in question?
I have no statement to make.
When you had arrived home, what did you (remark by translator, plural) do?
I have no statement to make.
After the suspect S.S. KALPOE had read through his statement, he stated that he would not sign the statement. The reason for that is that his lawyer first has to read the statement.
Of this we, BOEZEM and KELLY, on our oath of officers, have made this proces-verbaal, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 10th 2005.
The reporting officers
J.E. BOEZEM S.B. KELLY
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Satish June 11
PROCES-VERBAAL
We, Johny Melvis ERASMUS and Juan Enrique BOEZEM, respectively officer first class and head officer, with the Korps Politie Aruba and attached to the Section Often Occurring Crimes District II, declare the following.
On June 11th 2005, at approximately 17:30 hours, we interviewed the suspect S.S. KALPOE for further information.
Before we started to interview he was informed by me, ERASMUS, that he was not obliged to make a statement and that is interview will be taped.
He then gave a statement in dutch, which I have transcribed and goes as follows.
"Before the interview started I was informed by you that I was obliged to make a statement. Although I know that I am willing to make a statement.
The statements I gave before were not entirely based on the truth.
I am now willing to make a statement in accordance with the truth.
On Sunday May 29th 2005, at approximately 21.45 hours I went to pick up my brother Deepak where he works. I went to pick up Deepak in Deepak's car. Deepak has a grey coloured car of the make Honda Civic. When I arrived at his place of work I waited for him. At approximately 22.10 Deepak got into the car. We drove from the Seaport Market Place to Taco Bell in Santa Cruz to buy something to eat. After we had bought something to eat at Taco Bell we drove home to eat. When we were sitting at home eating, my brother Deepak said to me that Joran had asked him if he could go to Carlos & Charlies. My brother told me that Joran had told him that he had on that day in the hours of the afternoon met a few girls in the casino, My brother did not tell me in which casino Joran had met these girls. I decided to go with my brother and Joran to Carlos & Charlies. Before we left home, we vacuumed the car because there were a lot of ants in the car. I think that ants come into the car because the car is parked on our land it stands on grass. After we had cleaned the car, I had gotten dressed to go out. My brother had gone to take a bath and also changed in order to go to Carlos & Charlies. On May 29th 2005 at approximately 23.15 we had left our house. We drove from our house directly to Joran's house in Montanja. When we arrived at Joran's house my brother parked his car in front of the house. With my mobile phone number xxxxxxx I had called Joran on his mobile phone. Joran did not answer his mobile phone. My brother and I decided then to walk to his room. Joran lives in a kind of an appartement on the courtyard of the house. When we arrived at his appartement we found that Joran was not in his appartement. The appartement of Joran never gets locked. When we arrived at his appartement we had opened the door and went inside. I then saw that his mobile phone was in the appartement and I understood why he hadn't answered his phone. We had been standing in the appartement for about 3 to 4 minutes before Joran came into the appartement. I had then asked Joran where he had been. He had told me that he had been printing school material and that he had thought that we weren't going to show up anymore. Joran at that time had several pages of English lessons in his had. We then said to Joran that he should get changed so that we could go out. Joran then went to get changed in order to go out with us. I cannot remember what kind of clothes Joran had put on that day. Usually Joran wears shorts. Joran had to go to school the next day. The father of Joran at that moment was sleeping inside the house. The mother of Joran was during that period still in the Netherlands. Joran said that his father did not know that he would be going out. On the way to Carlos and Charlies Joran told us that during that day in the afternoon hours he had met a few girls in the casino. Joran told us that he had helped a girl win back some of her father's money that she had lost. Joran had told us that she had lost three hundred something dollars of her father's money in the casino and that he had helped the girl win back a little over 100 dollars. Joran said that after the girl had won more than 100 dollars, he had told her that she should stop gambling. Joran said the girl had invited him to come to Carlos & Charlies. Joran did not mention the name of the girl. My brother Deepak parked the car behind the former Ritsz building. After my brother had parked the car, the three of us walked to Carlos & Charlies. I saw that on the right side, when you walk into Carlos & Charlies, a group of Americans. I knew that they were Americans because they were talking in English. This group consisted of approximately 60 to 70 people. We kept on walking and stood and watched near the podium. On the podium was a girl. When the girl saw us, she made it clear with hand gestures that she wanted Joran to come and dance with her. I saw that Joran made it clear with a hand gesture that he would not go and dance with her. We started walking again until we got to the bar. Joran had bought three Yard Whisky coke for us. After that we returned to the podium to stand and watch. While we were standing there watching the girl, who had wanted Joran to come and dance with her, came over to Joran. Joran and the girl started talking. I saw that my brother was talking to a boy. The boy with whom my brother was talking I know by face only, I do not know his name. I had seen him in Carlos & Charlies before. I saw that the girl took Joran by the hand and lead him to another bar. I followed them. My brother stayed behind because he was talking to this boy. I saw that the girl laid down on top of the bar. I had never seen this before. I asked Joran "What is she going to do." Joran told me that the girl wanted him to drink a bodyshot off of her. I saw that the girl poured a drink on her belly, after which Joran drank it (sucked it up). The girl had paid for the bodyshot (drink). According to me I had stood alone for a while. Joran came over to me with the girl and told me that the bar had closed. I started to get busier at Carlos & Charlies. I assumed that this had to do with the fact that the activity called "Soul Beach" had just ended.
We, Joran, the girl and myself, had walked over to another bar where we had earlier bought the Yard's.
I had not seen my brother anymore. I saw that Joran and the girl were about to drink a shot. At that point I received a "missed call". I did not hear the phone but felt that I was being called, this was because I had set my mobile phone to vibrate.
I saw that my brother had called me. I know that my brother didn't have any more credit on his mobile phone and had called him back. My brother answered his phone and asked where we were. I told him that we were still inside Carlos & Charlies. He had told me that he was already at his car. I told him that we would come to where he was. I said to Joran that my brother was already at the car and if we were leaving, because Carlos & Charlies was about to close. Joran said that it was OK that we would be leaving and that the girl would be coming with us. We, Joran, the girl and myself, then walked outside. I was still holding my "Yard" in my hand. Outside the girl talked to a group of people. There were approximately 30 people in that group. I did not hear what they were talking about. We then walked over to the car. My brother was standing near the back of the car on the right. I said to my brother we are leaving, because Carlos & Charlies was about to close. My brother had gotten into the car and started the car. I sat down next to my brother. The girl got in through the back door on the right hand side of the car and sat down behind my brother. Joran was behind me in the car. The girl had at no point gotten acquainted with us, me and my brother. I cannot remember exactly how it went, but one this is certain, we made another round passing in front of Carlos & Charles. When we came to the intersection on that street, the girl saw that her friends were standing on the intersection west of Royal Plaza. I estimate that at that point there were approximately 60 people on that intersection. These people stood on both sides of the road. At the intersection Joran had said to my brother to turn right because the girl wanted to greet her friends. My brother Deepak then turned right with his car and then turned left with the car. When my brother had turned left on the intersection west of Royal Plaza, the girl had opened her window. The girl shouted to her friends "hey". While my brother was turning left, a boy shouted at the girl really loud "get out of the car" (get out of the car. Translated by reporting officers). My brother had also heard that the boy had shouted at the girl to get out of the car. My brother brought the car to a full stop to see if the girl would get out of the car. I heard the girl say to this boy that she would hook up with them later at the hotel and that she would go with us. Just to be on the safe side my brother asked Joran if the girl would get out there. Joran answered that the girl would come with us. The girl had not said a word to us. I don't know why that was. The boy who had said to the girl to get out of the car was dressed in a white T-shirt and was caucasian. I hadn't paid attention to what he looked like. Joran had also asked the girl if she would come with us, the girl then answered that she would be going with us. My brother then drove on. We then drove by way of the city center towards the boulevard near where the Sonesta Hotel is. When we got close to the Sonesta Hotel he turned right and drove towards the hotels. When we got to the intersection west of Royal Plaza, we saw that the people where no longer standing at the intersection. We drove on in a westerly direction. We were driving on the boulevard where the gas station is when the girl said she wanted to go see the sharks in the vicinity of the "lighthouse". Joran told the girl that there were no shark in the vicinity of the "lighthouse". Then the girl said that the "lighthouse" was the only place on Aruba that she had not yet seen. The girl said that she wanted to see the "lighthouse". Joran then told my brother to drive to the "lighthouse" if the girl wanted to go and see the "lighthouse". My brother then drove towards the "lighthouse". While my brother was driving towards the "lighthouse" Joran and the girl were talking in the back of the car. I could not hear what Joran and the girl were talking about. The music in the car was on so loud that we could not hear what the people in the back of the car were saying. During the drive I had at one point heard that the girl had said the word "hitler". I had turned down the music a little. I then heard the girl saying that she was related to "hitler" and that her mother was the sister of "hitler". I also heard the girl saying that she was from Alabama and that her parents owned a plantation there that had slaves working on the plantation. Joran had told me later that the girl had asked him if we were his slaves. But I had not heard that. My brother continued to drive into the direction of the "lighthouse". When we had passed the traffic lights at Wendy's, I saw that Joran and the girl were kissing. Whilst my brother was driving in a northerly direction, I saw a car pull up aside of us and procede left in the direction of the Holiday Inn Hotel. We were still driving in a northerly direction. My brother kept on driving till we reached the "lighthouse". When we had arrived at the "lighthouse" my brother asked Joran if the girl wanted to see the "lighthouse". Joran then said that he didn't think she would want to see it because she had fallen asleep. At that moment I turned around and saw that the girl was lying on Joran's lap and that she was sleeping. Joran had awakened the girl. Joran then told my brother that he didn't think that the girl would want to see the "lighthouse". The girl had been awake then. Joran then asked the girl if she was staying in the Holiday Inn hotel. The girl answered that she was staying at the Holiday Inn hotel. Joran then said to my brother that he should drive to the Holiday Inn hotel to drop off the girl. My brother then drove in the direction of the Holiday Inn hotel. To your question whether the girl had said something after she had woken up I have to tell you that I did not pay attention. On the way to the Holiday Inn Hotel Joran told my brother to turn right at some point. At Joran's request my brother turned right and drove into the street just north of the Marriot Hotel. My brother continued driving up the street until Joran said that he should stop the car. My brother then brought the car to a full stop. My brother asked Joran how he was going to get home. Joran answered that he would find a way to get home. My brother asked Joran if he was sure he would find another way to get home. Joran said that he was sure that he would find a way to get home. At that moment it was approximately 01.45 hours on May 30th 2005. The girl and Joran then got out of the car. Joran and the girl walked towards the beach. Joran and the girl had put their arms around each other while they walked. To your question whether the girl had been drunk and how the girl was walking I can say the following. The girl was at that time well with it and was walking fine too. After we had driven out of this street I asked my brother to slow down and I had thrown the "Yard' cup out of the car on the right side of the road. After that we drove towards our house. To your question as to what direction we had taken when we drove home I have the answer you the following. I cannot remember for sure, but I think we took the road through Tanki Leendert to get home.
After we got home I immediately went to sleep. My brother had gone into his room. I do not know if he immediately went to sleep. On May 30th 2005 I had awoken between 11.00 hours and 12.00 hours. When I woke up I asked my brother if he knew how Joran had made it to his house. My brother told me that he had been called during the night hours by Joran. My brother told me that when he was talking to Joran, he could hear that Joran was breathing heavily. My brother told me that had asked Joran what he was doing at the time. Joran had told my brother that he was at that time walking home towards his house. My brother told me that he had asked Joran about the girl and that Joran had told him that he had left the girl at the beach. According to my brother Joran had told him that he had taken off his shoes and that he and the girl had gone into the water. Joran had then told my brother that after that he and the girl had gotten out of the water and that the girl had fallen asleep on the beach. Joran told my brother that he had then tried to wake up the girl but that she had not awakened. Joran told my brother that he had looked to find his shoes but that he couldn't find them. Joran told my brother that he had left the girl on the beach and that he had walked home barefoot. On May 30th at approximately 16.00 hours I had taken my brother to his workplace and at 23.00 hours I had picked him up from work. After I had picked him up from work, we drove home. When we had arrived at home my brother told me that Joran was waiting for him at the casino. My brother had not told me which casino. My brother then went to Joran in the casino. On Tuesday May 31st 2005 at approximately 02.45 hours I was sleeping in bed. At that moment I was awakened by my brother Deepak. Deepak had called me on my mobile phone XXXXXXX. Deepak had called me with his mobile phone XXXXXXX. Deepak said to me that the girl that had been with us on Sunday had gone missing. Deepak then told me that we should not say that we dropped Joran and the girl off near the Marriot Hotel but that we left her at the Holiday Inn Hotel. My brother had also told me that we should say that we had dropped off Joran at his place. When Deepak called me he was together with Joran. I heard Joran instruct my brother what we had to say. My brother had told me that the father of Joran had told Joran that the police had come to their house. Before the police could come and pick me up I was called by my brother to tell me what I had to say if the police came to my house. The police did not come to my house that night. After I had heard that message I could not sleep. I was picked up by the police that day during the afternoon hours. I had told the police that we had dropped off the girl at the Holiday Inn Hotel and that the girl had been walking towards a security guard. That was not true. That was a made up story. I had asked Joran what had happened with the girl. Joran told me the same story every time. Joran must tell where the girl is because he had stayed with the girl last.
Two weeks ago my brother came home from work in the afternoon it was approximately 16.00 hours. My brother came to my room. He told me that during the day, while he was working, a boy had come up to him named Steve and that he had told him that he had seen us dropping off the girl at the Holiday Inn. My brother had told me that Steve could tell in detail how he had seen us leave Carlos & Charlies and had seen us later at the Holiday Inn. Steve supposedly also saw how the girl had fallen down and how our long friend had helped the girl get back to her feet. My brother had told me that this guy Steve had given him his phone-number, just in case he had to go to the police and give a statement as a witness.
According to my brother this guy Steve told him that he was supposed to go to work that day, but that he didn't go to work.
My brother had told me that he had seen Steve before, but that he hadn't known his name.
I asked my brother how that was possible because we didn't drop off the girl at the Holiday Inn.
To your question as to what I think the story of this Steve is all about, I can state the following. My brother and me both thought it was strange. I cannot give any explanation for it.
To your question whether I believe what Joran had told us, I can state the following. I do not believe everything that Joran had told us.
I think that Joran did not tell the truth to us.
S.S. KALPOE
After the suspect S.S. KALPOE had read through his statement, he said that he would persist in it. He refused to sign it though before his lawyer had read it.
Of this we, ERASMUS and BOEZEM, on our oath as officers have made this proces-verbaal, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 11th 2005.
The reporting officers,
J.M. ERASMUS J.E. BOEZEM
PROCES-VERBAAL
We, Johny Melvis ERASMUS and Juan Enrique BOEZEM, respectively officer first class and head officer, with the Korps Politie Aruba and attached to the Section Often Occurring Crimes District II, declare the following.
On June 11th 2005, at approximately 17:30 hours, we interviewed the suspect S.S. KALPOE for further information.
Before we started to interview he was informed by me, ERASMUS, that he was not obliged to make a statement and that is interview will be taped.
He then gave a statement in dutch, which I have transcribed and goes as follows.
"Before the interview started I was informed by you that I was obliged to make a statement. Although I know that I am willing to make a statement.
The statements I gave before were not entirely based on the truth.
I am now willing to make a statement in accordance with the truth.
On Sunday May 29th 2005, at approximately 21.45 hours I went to pick up my brother Deepak where he works. I went to pick up Deepak in Deepak's car. Deepak has a grey coloured car of the make Honda Civic. When I arrived at his place of work I waited for him. At approximately 22.10 Deepak got into the car. We drove from the Seaport Market Place to Taco Bell in Santa Cruz to buy something to eat. After we had bought something to eat at Taco Bell we drove home to eat. When we were sitting at home eating, my brother Deepak said to me that Joran had asked him if he could go to Carlos & Charlies. My brother told me that Joran had told him that he had on that day in the hours of the afternoon met a few girls in the casino, My brother did not tell me in which casino Joran had met these girls. I decided to go with my brother and Joran to Carlos & Charlies. Before we left home, we vacuumed the car because there were a lot of ants in the car. I think that ants come into the car because the car is parked on our land it stands on grass. After we had cleaned the car, I had gotten dressed to go out. My brother had gone to take a bath and also changed in order to go to Carlos & Charlies. On May 29th 2005 at approximately 23.15 we had left our house. We drove from our house directly to Joran's house in Montanja. When we arrived at Joran's house my brother parked his car in front of the house. With my mobile phone number xxxxxxx I had called Joran on his mobile phone. Joran did not answer his mobile phone. My brother and I decided then to walk to his room. Joran lives in a kind of an appartement on the courtyard of the house. When we arrived at his appartement we found that Joran was not in his appartement. The appartement of Joran never gets locked. When we arrived at his appartement we had opened the door and went inside. I then saw that his mobile phone was in the appartement and I understood why he hadn't answered his phone. We had been standing in the appartement for about 3 to 4 minutes before Joran came into the appartement. I had then asked Joran where he had been. He had told me that he had been printing school material and that he had thought that we weren't going to show up anymore. Joran at that time had several pages of English lessons in his had. We then said to Joran that he should get changed so that we could go out. Joran then went to get changed in order to go out with us. I cannot remember what kind of clothes Joran had put on that day. Usually Joran wears shorts. Joran had to go to school the next day. The father of Joran at that moment was sleeping inside the house. The mother of Joran was during that period still in the Netherlands. Joran said that his father did not know that he would be going out. On the way to Carlos and Charlies Joran told us that during that day in the afternoon hours he had met a few girls in the casino. Joran told us that he had helped a girl win back some of her father's money that she had lost. Joran had told us that she had lost three hundred something dollars of her father's money in the casino and that he had helped the girl win back a little over 100 dollars. Joran said that after the girl had won more than 100 dollars, he had told her that she should stop gambling. Joran said the girl had invited him to come to Carlos & Charlies. Joran did not mention the name of the girl. My brother Deepak parked the car behind the former Ritsz building. After my brother had parked the car, the three of us walked to Carlos & Charlies. I saw that on the right side, when you walk into Carlos & Charlies, a group of Americans. I knew that they were Americans because they were talking in English. This group consisted of approximately 60 to 70 people. We kept on walking and stood and watched near the podium. On the podium was a girl. When the girl saw us, she made it clear with hand gestures that she wanted Joran to come and dance with her. I saw that Joran made it clear with a hand gesture that he would not go and dance with her. We started walking again until we got to the bar. Joran had bought three Yard Whisky coke for us. After that we returned to the podium to stand and watch. While we were standing there watching the girl, who had wanted Joran to come and dance with her, came over to Joran. Joran and the girl started talking. I saw that my brother was talking to a boy. The boy with whom my brother was talking I know by face only, I do not know his name. I had seen him in Carlos & Charlies before. I saw that the girl took Joran by the hand and lead him to another bar. I followed them. My brother stayed behind because he was talking to this boy. I saw that the girl laid down on top of the bar. I had never seen this before. I asked Joran "What is she going to do." Joran told me that the girl wanted him to drink a bodyshot off of her. I saw that the girl poured a drink on her belly, after which Joran drank it (sucked it up). The girl had paid for the bodyshot (drink). According to me I had stood alone for a while. Joran came over to me with the girl and told me that the bar had closed. I started to get busier at Carlos & Charlies. I assumed that this had to do with the fact that the activity called "Soul Beach" had just ended.
We, Joran, the girl and myself, had walked over to another bar where we had earlier bought the Yard's.
I had not seen my brother anymore. I saw that Joran and the girl were about to drink a shot. At that point I received a "missed call". I did not hear the phone but felt that I was being called, this was because I had set my mobile phone to vibrate.
I saw that my brother had called me. I know that my brother didn't have any more credit on his mobile phone and had called him back. My brother answered his phone and asked where we were. I told him that we were still inside Carlos & Charlies. He had told me that he was already at his car. I told him that we would come to where he was. I said to Joran that my brother was already at the car and if we were leaving, because Carlos & Charlies was about to close. Joran said that it was OK that we would be leaving and that the girl would be coming with us. We, Joran, the girl and myself, then walked outside. I was still holding my "Yard" in my hand. Outside the girl talked to a group of people. There were approximately 30 people in that group. I did not hear what they were talking about. We then walked over to the car. My brother was standing near the back of the car on the right. I said to my brother we are leaving, because Carlos & Charlies was about to close. My brother had gotten into the car and started the car. I sat down next to my brother. The girl got in through the back door on the right hand side of the car and sat down behind my brother. Joran was behind me in the car. The girl had at no point gotten acquainted with us, me and my brother. I cannot remember exactly how it went, but one this is certain, we made another round passing in front of Carlos & Charles. When we came to the intersection on that street, the girl saw that her friends were standing on the intersection west of Royal Plaza. I estimate that at that point there were approximately 60 people on that intersection. These people stood on both sides of the road. At the intersection Joran had said to my brother to turn right because the girl wanted to greet her friends. My brother Deepak then turned right with his car and then turned left with the car. When my brother had turned left on the intersection west of Royal Plaza, the girl had opened her window. The girl shouted to her friends "hey". While my brother was turning left, a boy shouted at the girl really loud "get out of the car" (get out of the car. Translated by reporting officers). My brother had also heard that the boy had shouted at the girl to get out of the car. My brother brought the car to a full stop to see if the girl would get out of the car. I heard the girl say to this boy that she would hook up with them later at the hotel and that she would go with us. Just to be on the safe side my brother asked Joran if the girl would get out there. Joran answered that the girl would come with us. The girl had not said a word to us. I don't know why that was. The boy who had said to the girl to get out of the car was dressed in a white T-shirt and was caucasian. I hadn't paid attention to what he looked like. Joran had also asked the girl if she would come with us, the girl then answered that she would be going with us. My brother then drove on. We then drove by way of the city center towards the boulevard near where the Sonesta Hotel is. When we got close to the Sonesta Hotel he turned right and drove towards the hotels. When we got to the intersection west of Royal Plaza, we saw that the people where no longer standing at the intersection. We drove on in a westerly direction. We were driving on the boulevard where the gas station is when the girl said she wanted to go see the sharks in the vicinity of the "lighthouse". Joran told the girl that there were no shark in the vicinity of the "lighthouse". Then the girl said that the "lighthouse" was the only place on Aruba that she had not yet seen. The girl said that she wanted to see the "lighthouse". Joran then told my brother to drive to the "lighthouse" if the girl wanted to go and see the "lighthouse". My brother then drove towards the "lighthouse". While my brother was driving towards the "lighthouse" Joran and the girl were talking in the back of the car. I could not hear what Joran and the girl were talking about. The music in the car was on so loud that we could not hear what the people in the back of the car were saying. During the drive I had at one point heard that the girl had said the word "hitler". I had turned down the music a little. I then heard the girl saying that she was related to "hitler" and that her mother was the sister of "hitler". I also heard the girl saying that she was from Alabama and that her parents owned a plantation there that had slaves working on the plantation. Joran had told me later that the girl had asked him if we were his slaves. But I had not heard that. My brother continued to drive into the direction of the "lighthouse". When we had passed the traffic lights at Wendy's, I saw that Joran and the girl were kissing. Whilst my brother was driving in a northerly direction, I saw a car pull up aside of us and procede left in the direction of the Holiday Inn Hotel. We were still driving in a northerly direction. My brother kept on driving till we reached the "lighthouse". When we had arrived at the "lighthouse" my brother asked Joran if the girl wanted to see the "lighthouse". Joran then said that he didn't think she would want to see it because she had fallen asleep. At that moment I turned around and saw that the girl was lying on Joran's lap and that she was sleeping. Joran had awakened the girl. Joran then told my brother that he didn't think that the girl would want to see the "lighthouse". The girl had been awake then. Joran then asked the girl if she was staying in the Holiday Inn hotel. The girl answered that she was staying at the Holiday Inn hotel. Joran then said to my brother that he should drive to the Holiday Inn hotel to drop off the girl. My brother then drove in the direction of the Holiday Inn hotel. To your question whether the girl had said something after she had woken up I have to tell you that I did not pay attention. On the way to the Holiday Inn Hotel Joran told my brother to turn right at some point. At Joran's request my brother turned right and drove into the street just north of the Marriot Hotel. My brother continued driving up the street until Joran said that he should stop the car. My brother then brought the car to a full stop. My brother asked Joran how he was going to get home. Joran answered that he would find a way to get home. My brother asked Joran if he was sure he would find another way to get home. Joran said that he was sure that he would find a way to get home. At that moment it was approximately 01.45 hours on May 30th 2005. The girl and Joran then got out of the car. Joran and the girl walked towards the beach. Joran and the girl had put their arms around each other while they walked. To your question whether the girl had been drunk and how the girl was walking I can say the following. The girl was at that time well with it and was walking fine too. After we had driven out of this street I asked my brother to slow down and I had thrown the "Yard' cup out of the car on the right side of the road. After that we drove towards our house. To your question as to what direction we had taken when we drove home I have the answer you the following. I cannot remember for sure, but I think we took the road through Tanki Leendert to get home.
After we got home I immediately went to sleep. My brother had gone into his room. I do not know if he immediately went to sleep. On May 30th 2005 I had awoken between 11.00 hours and 12.00 hours. When I woke up I asked my brother if he knew how Joran had made it to his house. My brother told me that he had been called during the night hours by Joran. My brother told me that when he was talking to Joran, he could hear that Joran was breathing heavily. My brother told me that had asked Joran what he was doing at the time. Joran had told my brother that he was at that time walking home towards his house. My brother told me that he had asked Joran about the girl and that Joran had told him that he had left the girl at the beach. According to my brother Joran had told him that he had taken off his shoes and that he and the girl had gone into the water. Joran had then told my brother that after that he and the girl had gotten out of the water and that the girl had fallen asleep on the beach. Joran told my brother that he had then tried to wake up the girl but that she had not awakened. Joran told my brother that he had looked to find his shoes but that he couldn't find them. Joran told my brother that he had left the girl on the beach and that he had walked home barefoot. On May 30th at approximately 16.00 hours I had taken my brother to his workplace and at 23.00 hours I had picked him up from work. After I had picked him up from work, we drove home. When we had arrived at home my brother told me that Joran was waiting for him at the casino. My brother had not told me which casino. My brother then went to Joran in the casino. On Tuesday May 31st 2005 at approximately 02.45 hours I was sleeping in bed. At that moment I was awakened by my brother Deepak. Deepak had called me on my mobile phone XXXXXXX. Deepak had called me with his mobile phone XXXXXXX. Deepak said to me that the girl that had been with us on Sunday had gone missing. Deepak then told me that we should not say that we dropped Joran and the girl off near the Marriot Hotel but that we left her at the Holiday Inn Hotel. My brother had also told me that we should say that we had dropped off Joran at his place. When Deepak called me he was together with Joran. I heard Joran instruct my brother what we had to say. My brother had told me that the father of Joran had told Joran that the police had come to their house. Before the police could come and pick me up I was called by my brother to tell me what I had to say if the police came to my house. The police did not come to my house that night. After I had heard that message I could not sleep. I was picked up by the police that day during the afternoon hours. I had told the police that we had dropped off the girl at the Holiday Inn Hotel and that the girl had been walking towards a security guard. That was not true. That was a made up story. I had asked Joran what had happened with the girl. Joran told me the same story every time. Joran must tell where the girl is because he had stayed with the girl last.
Two weeks ago my brother came home from work in the afternoon it was approximately 16.00 hours. My brother came to my room. He told me that during the day, while he was working, a boy had come up to him named Steve and that he had told him that he had seen us dropping off the girl at the Holiday Inn. My brother had told me that Steve could tell in detail how he had seen us leave Carlos & Charlies and had seen us later at the Holiday Inn. Steve supposedly also saw how the girl had fallen down and how our long friend had helped the girl get back to her feet. My brother had told me that this guy Steve had given him his phone-number, just in case he had to go to the police and give a statement as a witness.
According to my brother this guy Steve told him that he was supposed to go to work that day, but that he didn't go to work.
My brother had told me that he had seen Steve before, but that he hadn't known his name.
I asked my brother how that was possible because we didn't drop off the girl at the Holiday Inn.
To your question as to what I think the story of this Steve is all about, I can state the following. My brother and me both thought it was strange. I cannot give any explanation for it.
To your question whether I believe what Joran had told us, I can state the following. I do not believe everything that Joran had told us.
I think that Joran did not tell the truth to us.
S.S. KALPOE
After the suspect S.S. KALPOE had read through his statement, he said that he would persist in it. He refused to sign it though before his lawyer had read it.
Of this we, ERASMUS and BOEZEM, on our oath as officers have made this proces-verbaal, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 11th 2005.
The reporting officers,
J.M. ERASMUS J.E. BOEZEM
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Paul Van der Sloot June 18
ROCES-VERBAAL
We, Roland Ramiro TROMP and Clyde Anthony BURKE, respectively inspector and sergeant first class with the Korps Politie Aruba and attached to the Section Often Occurring Crimes, state the following.
On June 18th 2005 at approximately 18.30 hours, we interviewed as a witness the man who when asked for his name and details, stated to be, Paulus Antonius Petrus Johanna van der SLOOT born in the Netherlands on February 15th 1952, occupation judge (Joint Court) and living at ADDRESS REMOVED in Aruba for further information.
Before his statement would be taken the witness was informed of his right to refuse giving any statement due to the relationship with the suspect (comment translator verschoningsrecht=right to refuse giving evidence/statements against close and immediate family).
The statement that he made was made in dutch and goes as follows.
“Even though I know I have the right to refuse giving a statement, I will make a statement. I believed the story that Joran, Deepak and Satish told, until Joran changed his statement. After that Freddy came to us and told us a different story. Joran had gone with the girl to the beach. (With Freddy is meant the witness Freddy ZEDAN; comment TROMP).
Freddy had told this story shortly after he was interviewed by the police. He had called my wife and had said that he found it important to tell the truth. After that he came over to us and he first talked to my wife. After that he came back one time and and he spoke with Joran's lawyer, his parents, me and my wife were also present. My wife and myself were very crushed/saddened/injured and angry at Joran for apparently not telling us the truth. My wife and the lawyer then confronted Joran about this. According to my wife Joran reacted calmly and said that he had always told Freddy the truth.
To you question whether I had conversations with the boys and told them all what to state if the police would show up on their doorstep, I have the following to state. Again, I believed the boys and I hoped that the girl would re-appear soon. When this did not happen I had told them that if they were the last to have been seen with this girl, they could become suspects. After that I prepared them for this and told them what they could expect if they would be arrested. I repeatedly told them that they would not have any difficulty with this, because as said, they were telling the truth.
To your question whether my son asked if no body would be found that there would be no case, I can state the following. I cannot remember Joran having asked me this. I have said on several occasions in all generatily that if the girl were not found, that this could pose a problem for them, on top of that would be the uncertainty whether a crime and what crime had been committed.
On May 29th 2005, at approximately 16.00 hours, I went with Joran to the “Free Carribean Stud Tournament” in the Holiday Inn. During the break, at approximately 18.30 hours, I went back home. My youngest son Sebastian who was playing at a friends house was due to be dropped off at home around that time. Joran, with my permission, took over my seat because he had been eliminated earlier. We had agreed that he would call me after the tournament, in order for me to come and pick him up. He did indeed call me and at approximately 23.00 hour I picked him up near the Mc Donalds in Palm Beach with my red Suzuki. We drove home and I went to bed. I presumed he also had gone to bed. Afterwards we found out that he had gone out to Carlos & Charlies without my permission.
On May 30th 2005, in the nightly hours, I did not pick up Joran from anywhere. I slept solidly through the night without waking up. On May 30th in the hours of the morning, I did not notice anything different/out of the ordinary with Joran. According to me he got onto the bus of the I.S.A. with his brothers Sebastian and Valentijn just like he always does. I am not absolutely sure about that because I didn't notice it and because Joran didn't have to be at school every day during that period. He was busy with his final exams and sometimes he stayed home. On May 30th at approximately 08.00, I went to work. The precise time I do not know for sure because during that period I had different hours on different days that I started working. I cannot remember any more if I came home to eat in the middle of the day because that too was different on different days. At approximately 16.30, I got home and the kids were already home. Because my wife was in the Netherlands I wanted to be home when the kids came home from school. Between 17.00 hours and 18.30 hours, I dropped off Joran in front of the entrance of the Aruba Raquet Club with my Suzuki so that he could take tennis lessons and go to the gym. He probably had his carrying bag with tennis necessities with him. I saw him enter the building. He had told me that he would afterwards be going to the Wyndham Hotel because a “Free Carribean Stud Tournament” would be held. I immediately went home, had dinner with the other boys and after that I went to bed. I do not remember having had contact with Joran after that. We did make an agreement that he would call me after the tournament was over, or that he would have someone drop him off at the house after the tournament. At some point during the night I was awoken by the barking of the dogs. My son Valentijn came to me and asked me what was happening. There were a lot of people at the door and there was also a police-patrol. I spoke to them and several Americans asked for my son and said that on Sunday night he had been with a girl in Carlos & Charlies. I said, that is impossible, because he played with me in a tournament at the “Holiday Inn” and I had picked him up at Mc Donalds at 23.00 hours. I went to his appartement and then found out that he was not home. I immediately called him with my wife's mobile phone and he answered me that he was at the Wyndham. I let him know that there were people and the police at the door and that they wanted to talk to him. I drove over with the police and when we arrived there it became apparent that he was no longer there. I then called him again and he answered me that he was at the house. We drove back to the house. When we arrived at the house we found that Deepak was also there. (With Deepak is meant the suspect “Deepak Sharma KALPOE”; comment TROMP). There were several people at the scene among others someone named “Charles Croes”, two police officers, the mother of the girl and other people, mostly Americans. Charles accompanied/escorted the group. They started asking Joran if he had been at “Carlos and Charlie's” and where the girl was. A photo was shown to him of the girl and he confirmed that he had been with the girl at Carlos and Charlie's”, that they had flirted and then dropped the girl off at the “Holiday Inn”. Someone in the group shouted/cursed “asshole” at Deepak. I asked everyone to please remain calm and after that the police stepped in. We decided to go to the “Holiday Inn” to go and look for the girl, but without any positive result. At the request of the police it was said that it would be best to file a report at the detective-squad. A man named WILLIAMS, who later turned out to be an FBI-agent had taken Joran apart to talk to Joran. Joran also briefly spoke with the mother of the missing girl. After that the heated atmosphere seemed to have cooled down somewhat. The police officers said they would file a report about what had occurred. It was morning already when Joran and myself were dropped off by the police at home. We did not go to bed anymore. Joran went to school feeling very sleepy. I called the “headmaster” of Joran's school and told him that in the nightly hours a lot of people had been at the house about a missing girl. I asked him if he could be somewhat understanding for the fact that Joran would be sleepy.
At approximately 10.00 hours I was visited at my workplace by Jan van der STRATEN. Jan van der STRATEN requested that I go and pick up my son from school so that he could be interviewed by the police. I asked Jan van der STRATEN if I could remain present when Joran was going to make his statement. He did not see a problem with that. I had a chat with the Headmaster and Joran. I then immediately drove to the police station at Bubali. Joran made a statement while I was present. I had asked to be present and the person who took the statement (KELLY) had no objection to this. While in the presence of JACOBS I did make a remark, that I couldn't understand why the girl had pushed him away, if he had been first kissing with her. I also said that he should have escorted the girl into the hotel if she was that intoxicated. We then went to get something to eat and I talked to him about the case/what happened. Then we drove home.
You tell me that in the past few days I have constantly been with the boys. I have indeed spoken to them regularly to give them support, support because the girl stayed missing and that was on their minds. The mother of Satish and Deepak called and we spoke with her at our home. She too was very worried and we wanted to show we felt the same way. Joran did go to school like normal to do his exams and did go to school. My wife dropped him off after school. Because she is a teacher at the same school Joran goes to. One time there was an incident at the “International School” when family members of the missing girl were putting up posters of the missing girl with written on it: “Kidnapped, ask Joran van der Sloot”. The headmaster then barred these people access to the school grounds. If the girl wasn't found, there was a good chance that the boys would be seen as suspects again. I did find it a bit strange that the boys weren't asked to make more specific/more detailed statements and so I concluded for myself that there probably was information that the girl in fact had been seen after...
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...spoken. With some friends who visited us we undoubtedly spoke about this because it was on our minds too. Some of our friends are members of “Friends of Aruba” and were closely involved with the search of the girl.
You ask me whether I told the boys that they would be tapped. I did say that, but only because I suspected that, and a little bit as a joke. Not because I knew there were being tapped.
You are asking me whether I asked Joran for Guido's phone-number. I did indeed do that to verify with Guido if Joran had truly won third place at the Holiday Inn Tournament. Joran had told me he had won third place, he said he had won 150$ and had exchanged these into Aruban Florin. I had my doubts because he hadn't told me he had won the money immediately after winning it. I spoke with Guido at the “Raquet Club” and he told me Joran did indeed win third or fourth place. I allow Joran to play the “Free Tournaments” but he is not allowed to play for real money in the casino.
To your question whether I told Joran, as much as three times, that he should stop saying that he had dropped off the girl at the Holiday Inn, I can state the following. I did indeed say that and I had a serious talk with him in which I said that the should not talk about what happened again. I did this after having talked to my...
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ROCES-VERBAAL
We, Roland Ramiro TROMP and Clyde Anthony BURKE, respectively inspector and sergeant first class with the Korps Politie Aruba and attached to the Section Often Occurring Crimes, state the following.
On June 18th 2005 at approximately 18.30 hours, we interviewed as a witness the man who when asked for his name and details, stated to be, Paulus Antonius Petrus Johanna van der SLOOT born in the Netherlands on February 15th 1952, occupation judge (Joint Court) and living at ADDRESS REMOVED in Aruba for further information.
Before his statement would be taken the witness was informed of his right to refuse giving any statement due to the relationship with the suspect (comment translator verschoningsrecht=right to refuse giving evidence/statements against close and immediate family).
The statement that he made was made in dutch and goes as follows.
“Even though I know I have the right to refuse giving a statement, I will make a statement. I believed the story that Joran, Deepak and Satish told, until Joran changed his statement. After that Freddy came to us and told us a different story. Joran had gone with the girl to the beach. (With Freddy is meant the witness Freddy ZEDAN; comment TROMP).
Freddy had told this story shortly after he was interviewed by the police. He had called my wife and had said that he found it important to tell the truth. After that he came over to us and he first talked to my wife. After that he came back one time and and he spoke with Joran's lawyer, his parents, me and my wife were also present. My wife and myself were very crushed/saddened/injured and angry at Joran for apparently not telling us the truth. My wife and the lawyer then confronted Joran about this. According to my wife Joran reacted calmly and said that he had always told Freddy the truth.
To you question whether I had conversations with the boys and told them all what to state if the police would show up on their doorstep, I have the following to state. Again, I believed the boys and I hoped that the girl would re-appear soon. When this did not happen I had told them that if they were the last to have been seen with this girl, they could become suspects. After that I prepared them for this and told them what they could expect if they would be arrested. I repeatedly told them that they would not have any difficulty with this, because as said, they were telling the truth.
To your question whether my son asked if no body would be found that there would be no case, I can state the following. I cannot remember Joran having asked me this. I have said on several occasions in all generatily that if the girl were not found, that this could pose a problem for them, on top of that would be the uncertainty whether a crime and what crime had been committed.
On May 29th 2005, at approximately 16.00 hours, I went with Joran to the “Free Carribean Stud Tournament” in the Holiday Inn. During the break, at approximately 18.30 hours, I went back home. My youngest son Sebastian who was playing at a friends house was due to be dropped off at home around that time. Joran, with my permission, took over my seat because he had been eliminated earlier. We had agreed that he would call me after the tournament, in order for me to come and pick him up. He did indeed call me and at approximately 23.00 hour I picked him up near the Mc Donalds in Palm Beach with my red Suzuki. We drove home and I went to bed. I presumed he also had gone to bed. Afterwards we found out that he had gone out to Carlos & Charlies without my permission.
On May 30th 2005, in the nightly hours, I did not pick up Joran from anywhere. I slept solidly through the night without waking up. On May 30th in the hours of the morning, I did not notice anything different/out of the ordinary with Joran. According to me he got onto the bus of the I.S.A. with his brothers Sebastian and Valentijn just like he always does. I am not absolutely sure about that because I didn't notice it and because Joran didn't have to be at school every day during that period. He was busy with his final exams and sometimes he stayed home. On May 30th at approximately 08.00, I went to work. The precise time I do not know for sure because during that period I had different hours on different days that I started working. I cannot remember any more if I came home to eat in the middle of the day because that too was different on different days. At approximately 16.30, I got home and the kids were already home. Because my wife was in the Netherlands I wanted to be home when the kids came home from school. Between 17.00 hours and 18.30 hours, I dropped off Joran in front of the entrance of the Aruba Raquet Club with my Suzuki so that he could take tennis lessons and go to the gym. He probably had his carrying bag with tennis necessities with him. I saw him enter the building. He had told me that he would afterwards be going to the Wyndham Hotel because a “Free Carribean Stud Tournament” would be held. I immediately went home, had dinner with the other boys and after that I went to bed. I do not remember having had contact with Joran after that. We did make an agreement that he would call me after the tournament was over, or that he would have someone drop him off at the house after the tournament. At some point during the night I was awoken by the barking of the dogs. My son Valentijn came to me and asked me what was happening. There were a lot of people at the door and there was also a police-patrol. I spoke to them and several Americans asked for my son and said that on Sunday night he had been with a girl in Carlos & Charlies. I said, that is impossible, because he played with me in a tournament at the “Holiday Inn” and I had picked him up at Mc Donalds at 23.00 hours. I went to his appartement and then found out that he was not home. I immediately called him with my wife's mobile phone and he answered me that he was at the Wyndham. I let him know that there were people and the police at the door and that they wanted to talk to him. I drove over with the police and when we arrived there it became apparent that he was no longer there. I then called him again and he answered me that he was at the house. We drove back to the house. When we arrived at the house we found that Deepak was also there. (With Deepak is meant the suspect “Deepak Sharma KALPOE”; comment TROMP). There were several people at the scene among others someone named “Charles Croes”, two police officers, the mother of the girl and other people, mostly Americans. Charles accompanied/escorted the group. They started asking Joran if he had been at “Carlos and Charlie's” and where the girl was. A photo was shown to him of the girl and he confirmed that he had been with the girl at Carlos and Charlie's”, that they had flirted and then dropped the girl off at the “Holiday Inn”. Someone in the group shouted/cursed “asshole” at Deepak. I asked everyone to please remain calm and after that the police stepped in. We decided to go to the “Holiday Inn” to go and look for the girl, but without any positive result. At the request of the police it was said that it would be best to file a report at the detective-squad. A man named WILLIAMS, who later turned out to be an FBI-agent had taken Joran apart to talk to Joran. Joran also briefly spoke with the mother of the missing girl. After that the heated atmosphere seemed to have cooled down somewhat. The police officers said they would file a report about what had occurred. It was morning already when Joran and myself were dropped off by the police at home. We did not go to bed anymore. Joran went to school feeling very sleepy. I called the “headmaster” of Joran's school and told him that in the nightly hours a lot of people had been at the house about a missing girl. I asked him if he could be somewhat understanding for the fact that Joran would be sleepy.
At approximately 10.00 hours I was visited at my workplace by Jan van der STRATEN. Jan van der STRATEN requested that I go and pick up my son from school so that he could be interviewed by the police. I asked Jan van der STRATEN if I could remain present when Joran was going to make his statement. He did not see a problem with that. I had a chat with the Headmaster and Joran. I then immediately drove to the police station at Bubali. Joran made a statement while I was present. I had asked to be present and the person who took the statement (KELLY) had no objection to this. While in the presence of JACOBS I did make a remark, that I couldn't understand why the girl had pushed him away, if he had been first kissing with her. I also said that he should have escorted the girl into the hotel if she was that intoxicated. We then went to get something to eat and I talked to him about the case/what happened. Then we drove home.
You tell me that in the past few days I have constantly been with the boys. I have indeed spoken to them regularly to give them support, support because the girl stayed missing and that was on their minds. The mother of Satish and Deepak called and we spoke with her at our home. She too was very worried and we wanted to show we felt the same way. Joran did go to school like normal to do his exams and did go to school. My wife dropped him off after school. Because she is a teacher at the same school Joran goes to. One time there was an incident at the “International School” when family members of the missing girl were putting up posters of the missing girl with written on it: “Kidnapped, ask Joran van der Sloot”. The headmaster then barred these people access to the school grounds. If the girl wasn't found, there was a good chance that the boys would be seen as suspects again. I did find it a bit strange that the boys weren't asked to make more specific/more detailed statements and so I concluded for myself that there probably was information that the girl in fact had been seen after...
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...spoken. With some friends who visited us we undoubtedly spoke about this because it was on our minds too. Some of our friends are members of “Friends of Aruba” and were closely involved with the search of the girl.
You ask me whether I told the boys that they would be tapped. I did say that, but only because I suspected that, and a little bit as a joke. Not because I knew there were being tapped.
You are asking me whether I asked Joran for Guido's phone-number. I did indeed do that to verify with Guido if Joran had truly won third place at the Holiday Inn Tournament. Joran had told me he had won third place, he said he had won 150$ and had exchanged these into Aruban Florin. I had my doubts because he hadn't told me he had won the money immediately after winning it. I spoke with Guido at the “Raquet Club” and he told me Joran did indeed win third or fourth place. I allow Joran to play the “Free Tournaments” but he is not allowed to play for real money in the casino.
To your question whether I told Joran, as much as three times, that he should stop saying that he had dropped off the girl at the Holiday Inn, I can state the following. I did indeed say that and I had a serious talk with him in which I said that the should not talk about what happened again. I did this after having talked to my...
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Paul Van der Sloot June 25
PROCES VERBAAL
WE, Clyde Anthony BURKE and Haydee Azucena NADAL, respectively police sergeants first class at the Korps Police Aruba, former in service at the many appearance criminality District II and last named at the Recherde Coorperationteam Aruba, declares the following:
On June 25 2005 around 11.35 the suspect P.A.P.J van der Sloot was interrogated: At the beginning of the interrogation the suspect P.A.P.J. van der Sloot was told that he had the right to remain silent.
His statement in Dutch was put on certificate by us and declared the following:
We spoke last time about that Monday night when Joran was at the "Raquet Club", that I only took the bag with me. I am remembering that it was around 08:00pm when I took the bag to Joran at the “Raquet Club”, this was when Joran was walking in the direction of the Marriott and made the announcement that he was going to participate in the “Free Tournament” at the Wyndham that this came up. In my view I even grumbled (expressed concern) on Joran and then went on to pick up Sebastian at the ZEOLA family. Again I am not sure. This image comes in my head, but I had no reason at that moment to remember any of these things. I had done a lot on automatic pilot. Sure when it came to pickup and bring the kids back. I also don't know the relevance of this fact.
On your question if I can tell you what Joran wore that day, I can explain to you the following:
I can remember very vague, in my view he had something blue, but I am not absolutely sure.
On your question if I can remember what kind of shoes Joran had on, I can explain to you the following:
I think that he had a gym shoes on, but I am not sure.
On your question on what time did the above occur, I can explain to you the following:
The association of 08.00pm comes to me, because I thought that the tournament didn't start at 08.00pm?
On your question if I saw other friends of Joran at the "Raquet Club" on that Monday night of May 30 2005, I can explain to you the following:
I can't remember if I had seen Joran's friends.
On your question on which day did Joran tell me the story about dropping the missing girl at the "Holiday Inn Hotel", I can explain to you the following:
I heard the story for the first time in the night of May 30 2005 around 03.00am when the people came to my house and he told the story to the people.
On your question when did I ask when we were at the "Holiday inn hotel" on the night of May 30 2005, if the camera worked, I can explain to you the following:
I didn't ask this myself. I overheard the woman that worked behind the check-in counter talking about the cameras at the check-in counter.
On your question if I heard the conversation between Joran and the stepfather of the girl when they were talking, I can explain to you the following:
No, the conversation was between Joran and WILLIAMS and I didn't hear what they spoke to each other.
P.A.P.J van der Sloot
After the suspect P.A.P.J van der Sloot had read his statement, he declared he agrees with what is on the paper and signed it. Of which by us, on oath of office made this warrant, closed and signed in Noord on June 23 (25*), 2005.
Signed,
C.A. BURKE H.A. NADAL
*June 25 at top of statement, June 23 at bottom?
PROCES VERBAAL
WE, Clyde Anthony BURKE and Haydee Azucena NADAL, respectively police sergeants first class at the Korps Police Aruba, former in service at the many appearance criminality District II and last named at the Recherde Coorperationteam Aruba, declares the following:
On June 25 2005 around 11.35 the suspect P.A.P.J van der Sloot was interrogated: At the beginning of the interrogation the suspect P.A.P.J. van der Sloot was told that he had the right to remain silent.
His statement in Dutch was put on certificate by us and declared the following:
We spoke last time about that Monday night when Joran was at the "Raquet Club", that I only took the bag with me. I am remembering that it was around 08:00pm when I took the bag to Joran at the “Raquet Club”, this was when Joran was walking in the direction of the Marriott and made the announcement that he was going to participate in the “Free Tournament” at the Wyndham that this came up. In my view I even grumbled (expressed concern) on Joran and then went on to pick up Sebastian at the ZEOLA family. Again I am not sure. This image comes in my head, but I had no reason at that moment to remember any of these things. I had done a lot on automatic pilot. Sure when it came to pickup and bring the kids back. I also don't know the relevance of this fact.
On your question if I can tell you what Joran wore that day, I can explain to you the following:
I can remember very vague, in my view he had something blue, but I am not absolutely sure.
On your question if I can remember what kind of shoes Joran had on, I can explain to you the following:
I think that he had a gym shoes on, but I am not sure.
On your question on what time did the above occur, I can explain to you the following:
The association of 08.00pm comes to me, because I thought that the tournament didn't start at 08.00pm?
On your question if I saw other friends of Joran at the "Raquet Club" on that Monday night of May 30 2005, I can explain to you the following:
I can't remember if I had seen Joran's friends.
On your question on which day did Joran tell me the story about dropping the missing girl at the "Holiday Inn Hotel", I can explain to you the following:
I heard the story for the first time in the night of May 30 2005 around 03.00am when the people came to my house and he told the story to the people.
On your question when did I ask when we were at the "Holiday inn hotel" on the night of May 30 2005, if the camera worked, I can explain to you the following:
I didn't ask this myself. I overheard the woman that worked behind the check-in counter talking about the cameras at the check-in counter.
On your question if I heard the conversation between Joran and the stepfather of the girl when they were talking, I can explain to you the following:
No, the conversation was between Joran and WILLIAMS and I didn't hear what they spoke to each other.
P.A.P.J van der Sloot
After the suspect P.A.P.J van der Sloot had read his statement, he declared he agrees with what is on the paper and signed it. Of which by us, on oath of office made this warrant, closed and signed in Noord on June 23 (25*), 2005.
Signed,
C.A. BURKE H.A. NADAL
*June 25 at top of statement, June 23 at bottom?
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Sander Gottenboes June 17
PROCES - VERBAAL
We, Clyde Anthony BURKE and Shaniro Baldrik KELLY, respectively sergeant first class and sergeant, at the Korps Police force Aruba and district II, at the section to multi classified crime, report the following:
On June 17, 2005 around 11.15 the witness S.GOTTENBOS was more closely interrogated. The statement given in Dutch and sounds as follows;
On your question if I had contact with Joran on May 29, 2005, I tell you the following;
I had telephone contact with Joran on May 29, 2005, this was around 11.00.
On your question about how the conversation went, I will tell you the following;
The conversation went that I asked him if he wanted to go out on my fathers boat.
He said that he could not go because he was going to play poker at the Holiday Inn. There is tournament each Sunday in aforementioned hotel and Joran participates almost each week in that tournament.
On your question what kind of boat my father has, I will explain to you the following:
It is a speedboat, of the make "Sea Pro".
On your question if Joran had been on our boat before, I will explain to you the following:
Joran has never been on our boat and has also never with our dangers. (?)
On your question if I had spoken on May 29, 2005 with Joran by means of the computer, I will explain you the following:
I do not remember myself if I had spoken to him by means of the computer. If he had been online then it would be possible.
On your question if I had contact on May 30, 2005 with Joran, I will explain to you the following:
I truly cannot remember myself if I had spoke with him.
I do not think by telephone for certain because my telephone was stolen that day at school. I think that I had no contact with Joran by means of the computer.
On your question if I had contact with Joran on May 31, 2005, I will explain to you the following:
I did not have contact with Joran on 31 May 2005. I did, however, have telephone contact with Freddy. The conversation went concerning my telephone that was stolen. The first time that I saw him was on Wednesday, therefore June 1, 2005. I met him at its house. Before I went to its house I called him. That was around 16:00. That was the time when I with Amanda, Flor and Gilayla went to his house.
On your question if it is possible I had more contact with Joran, I can explain the following:
I last saw him on Tuesday and Wednesday. On Tuesday I saw him at the Raquet Club, on the day of the father and son tournament. Wednesday went I with my brother and the above girls to Joran’s house.
On your question if Joran walked sometimes from the "Raquet Club" to the hotels, I will explain to you the following:
Yes, Joran has walked from the "Raquet Club" to the hotels. That generally he did that on Friday. I think also that when he walks by the “Raquet Club” he also goes by McDonalds.
On your question if I you can explain which route Joran took, if he walked to the hotel, I will explain the following:
He generally walked by the area that is called the Salinja (pond).
On your question if Joran knows the aforementioned area well, I will explain to you the following:
According to him he knows the area reasonably good.
On your question as to which hotels Joran frequently visits, I will explain to you the following:
With us he generally went to the "Marriott hotel" and if he wants to play poker to the "Holiday Inn hotel".
On your question if I have some times seen Joran drunk, I will explain to you the following:
Yes I have seen him drunk a couple of times.
On your question what kind of person is he when he is drunk, I will explain to you the following:
He remains ordinary, therefore he is not a person becomes game. (?) This I can tell you from the couple of times I have seen him drunk. I never go with them to the clubs because I do not come in.
On your question if Joran drank on the day of the incident in the carnival period, I can explain to you the following:
He had what was drunk but in my picture he did not drink. (?)
On your question how I value myself compared with Joran, therefore concerning character or do we think the same, I can explain to you the following:
We are differing in character and how we think.
On your question if I it is possible that I go deeper into the differences, I will explain to you the following:
I will give you an example. An example, if there is a scuffle going on, then Joran will want it. I always walk away.
I say that I would put my hands in the fire for Joran. He would do never something like that. I would do also for Satish and Deepak, although I haven’t known them as long.
On your question if I had not reflected, that something else had happened from what my good friend Joran had told me, I can explain to you the following:
I have simply believed what he had told me.
On your question if I had contact after the adjournment (detention?) of Joran with the parents of Joran, I will explain to you the following:
I myself had no contact with the parents of Joran after its adjournment (detention?), my parents however, had contact with his parents. My parents said that along with Joran’s parents we believe in what Joran said.
S. GOTTENBOS
After I, BURKE, read the declaration of the witness S. GOTTENBOS to him, explained he thereby to persist and signed he these in draft form.
Of what our, statement, on oath of office made up this proces-verbaal, and has been signed at Oranjestad on June 17, 2005 and has been closed.
C.A. BURKE S.B. KELLY
PROCES - VERBAAL
We, Clyde Anthony BURKE and Shaniro Baldrik KELLY, respectively sergeant first class and sergeant, at the Korps Police force Aruba and district II, at the section to multi classified crime, report the following:
On June 17, 2005 around 11.15 the witness S.GOTTENBOS was more closely interrogated. The statement given in Dutch and sounds as follows;
On your question if I had contact with Joran on May 29, 2005, I tell you the following;
I had telephone contact with Joran on May 29, 2005, this was around 11.00.
On your question about how the conversation went, I will tell you the following;
The conversation went that I asked him if he wanted to go out on my fathers boat.
He said that he could not go because he was going to play poker at the Holiday Inn. There is tournament each Sunday in aforementioned hotel and Joran participates almost each week in that tournament.
On your question what kind of boat my father has, I will explain to you the following:
It is a speedboat, of the make "Sea Pro".
On your question if Joran had been on our boat before, I will explain to you the following:
Joran has never been on our boat and has also never with our dangers. (?)
On your question if I had spoken on May 29, 2005 with Joran by means of the computer, I will explain you the following:
I do not remember myself if I had spoken to him by means of the computer. If he had been online then it would be possible.
On your question if I had contact on May 30, 2005 with Joran, I will explain to you the following:
I truly cannot remember myself if I had spoke with him.
I do not think by telephone for certain because my telephone was stolen that day at school. I think that I had no contact with Joran by means of the computer.
On your question if I had contact with Joran on May 31, 2005, I will explain to you the following:
I did not have contact with Joran on 31 May 2005. I did, however, have telephone contact with Freddy. The conversation went concerning my telephone that was stolen. The first time that I saw him was on Wednesday, therefore June 1, 2005. I met him at its house. Before I went to its house I called him. That was around 16:00. That was the time when I with Amanda, Flor and Gilayla went to his house.
On your question if it is possible I had more contact with Joran, I can explain the following:
I last saw him on Tuesday and Wednesday. On Tuesday I saw him at the Raquet Club, on the day of the father and son tournament. Wednesday went I with my brother and the above girls to Joran’s house.
On your question if Joran walked sometimes from the "Raquet Club" to the hotels, I will explain to you the following:
Yes, Joran has walked from the "Raquet Club" to the hotels. That generally he did that on Friday. I think also that when he walks by the “Raquet Club” he also goes by McDonalds.
On your question if I you can explain which route Joran took, if he walked to the hotel, I will explain the following:
He generally walked by the area that is called the Salinja (pond).
On your question if Joran knows the aforementioned area well, I will explain to you the following:
According to him he knows the area reasonably good.
On your question as to which hotels Joran frequently visits, I will explain to you the following:
With us he generally went to the "Marriott hotel" and if he wants to play poker to the "Holiday Inn hotel".
On your question if I have some times seen Joran drunk, I will explain to you the following:
Yes I have seen him drunk a couple of times.
On your question what kind of person is he when he is drunk, I will explain to you the following:
He remains ordinary, therefore he is not a person becomes game. (?) This I can tell you from the couple of times I have seen him drunk. I never go with them to the clubs because I do not come in.
On your question if Joran drank on the day of the incident in the carnival period, I can explain to you the following:
He had what was drunk but in my picture he did not drink. (?)
On your question how I value myself compared with Joran, therefore concerning character or do we think the same, I can explain to you the following:
We are differing in character and how we think.
On your question if I it is possible that I go deeper into the differences, I will explain to you the following:
I will give you an example. An example, if there is a scuffle going on, then Joran will want it. I always walk away.
I say that I would put my hands in the fire for Joran. He would do never something like that. I would do also for Satish and Deepak, although I haven’t known them as long.
On your question if I had not reflected, that something else had happened from what my good friend Joran had told me, I can explain to you the following:
I have simply believed what he had told me.
On your question if I had contact after the adjournment (detention?) of Joran with the parents of Joran, I will explain to you the following:
I myself had no contact with the parents of Joran after its adjournment (detention?), my parents however, had contact with his parents. My parents said that along with Joran’s parents we believe in what Joran said.
S. GOTTENBOS
After I, BURKE, read the declaration of the witness S. GOTTENBOS to him, explained he thereby to persist and signed he these in draft form.
Of what our, statement, on oath of office made up this proces-verbaal, and has been signed at Oranjestad on June 17, 2005 and has been closed.
C.A. BURKE S.B. KELLY
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by JD » Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:51 pm
Sander Gottenbos June 16
PROCESS - VERBAL
We, Shaniro Baldrik KELLY and Clyde Anthony BURKE, respectively sergeant and sergeant first class at the korps police force Aruba and at the research district classified 2, explain the following.
On Thursday, June 16 2005 around 17:10, we spoke with, as a witness and have taken the statement of the man who gave his name to be;
Sander GOTTENBOS
born in the Netherlands on January 1990, schoolboy at (Colegio Arubano) and living at the address of Malmok XX. This statement was given in Dutch to me and was put on record and sounds as follows:
I known Joran since I was little, since my family and I came to live on the island.
On your question what did Joran tell me concerning what happened with the missing girl, I can explain to you the following:
Joran told me that he met the girl in the "Excelsior casino" in the "Holiday Inn hotel". He said that he had met the girl during gambling at the tables in the casino. He said that the girl had lost an amount of US 350 = during gambling. Joran had helped her win a part of the aforementioned amount. This was an amount of US 175 = Joran said that the girl wanted him to go to "Carlos & Charlies". Joran had called Haime (Jaime). Haime is a friend of ours. Haime lives in the hamlet Alto Vista. Haime could not go because he had to work. Next Joran called Deepak and Satish. Joran told them about the girl at "Excelsior Casino he had picked up". They drove in Deepak’s car to "Carlos & Charlies". They went to Carlos & Charlies and saw the girl dance on the podium. He further told me that they drank "jello shots". I cannot remember if Joran told me how they left Carlos & Charlies. Joran explained further that Natalee wanted to see the sharks at the "Light house". Joran said he told Natalee there were no sharks. Joran said that they drove in the direction the "Lighthouse" and that the girl in the neighborhood of Arashi fell asleep. Joran said they turned around at the “Lighthouse” and turned back towards the Holiday Inn. Joran said that They, Deepak and Satish and him turned off near the “Holiday Inn Hotel” and left the little girl. Joran told me they left her behind the lobby. Joran had told me this tale after the police force had spoken with him. I do not think that it was on Wednesday, I am not exactly sure.
On your question what I mean with normal behavior of Joran, I can explain the following:
I mean that he was acting normally. He had to nothing hide.
On your question how Joran behaved them selves after what happened on May 30, 2005, I will explain the following:
Joran behaved very normal.
On your question how many times I’ve seen Joran after what happened on May 30, 2005, I will explain the following:
I have seen him approximately four times.
On your question if I spoke with Joran all for times, I will explain the following: Yes, I spoke with him but not each time concerning what happened.
On your question if I’ve see Joran at the “Raquet Club” after it happened, I can explain to you the following:
I have seen him at the “Raquet Club”. I think that it was week afterwards. He was with its father. They participated in a father and son tournament.
On your question if I have been at Joran’s house after what happened: I can explain to you the following:
I have been at its house after it happened. I have been three times at its house.
On your question who were also at Joran’s house when I went there, I will explain to you the following:
I went twice with my brother Koen, Amanda, Flor and Gilayta. The little girls had gone with me three times.
On your question concerning what we spoke about, I will explain to you the following:
We spoke at times concerning what happened and the rest was simply social conversation.
On your question if Joran in those conversations told more of what had happened, I will explain to you the following:
Joran told us nothing new.
On your question what did Joran think what happened to the missing little girl, I will explain to you the following:
He said that he had no idea what happened to the missing little girl or where she could be.
On your question who Joran’s girlfriend is and if I know of earlier girlfriends, I will explain to you the following:
Flor is a type girlfriend but his real girlfriend was Elaine. Elaine goes to: "Colegio Arubano". I do not know where she lives or her number. His earlier girlfriends are named Stephania, Melody and Gilian. Joran had more but I cannot remember the names now. Gilian and Stephania are no longer on the island. Melody lives somewhere in Salinja Cerca.
On your question how he handled several girls, I will explain to you the following:
I found that he was kind with the girls.
On your question if I have contact with Joran by means of the computer, I will explain to you the following: I had almost daily contact with Joran if he was online.
On your question what my e-mail address is, I will explain to you the following: My e-mail address is xxxxxxxx@hotmail.com.
On your question what name I use on the computer if I am online, I will explain to you the following:
Before Joran was apprehended, I used the nickname Sander. Now I, "Joran, nos tin bo back pa semper, ta sinti hopi malo uses pa wak con nan ta danja bo bida" (free translation statementt: Joran we have your back for always, we feel our complete to see badly how them you name for damaging to be.)
On your question for why I think they are damaging his name, I will explain to you the following:
I know Joran well and know that Joran would never do something like that. Deepak and Satish would never do something like that also.
On your question if I was with Joran in the carnavals season when there was an incident, I will explain to you the following:
Yes I was with him on that day. On that day there was a parade in Oranjestad. We stood on the bridge at the Wilhelmina Park. That moment a druggie came to us. Joran had given him beer. The druggie had thrown the beer on the ground and started annoying us. Joran had called the police force that stood near. The police force had removed the druggie. After a while the druggie returned and started annoying us. He had grabbed Satish at its hand and wanted with him fight. At that moment Joran grabbed him and threw him off the bridge into the water.
On your question what I thought about the actions of Joran at that moment, I will explain to you the following:
I found that he had acted well. The druggie came to annoy.
On your question if I am aware of any other incidents where Joran was involved in a fight, I will explain to you the following:
I can think of no more.
On your question if I go to the movies with, I will explain to you the following:
I frequently go with Joran to the movies. My brother, Deepak, Satish and sometimes Andre generally go together themselves to the film.
On your question if I am possibly aware of an incident that took place at the “cinema”, I will explain to you the following:
Joran had told me, I do not remember well at this moment, but Joran told me he had fallen into a boy by a showcase (glass?) According to Joran this had not happened deliberately.
On your question what I think happened with the little girl (Natalee), I will explain to you the following:
I do not know what happened to her but I am 200% certain that Joran has not done this. He would do never something like that.
On your question if I was at the “Raquet Club” on Monday May 30, 2005, I will explain to you the following:
I did not go on that day to aforementioned club. I have selection training on Mondays. I am present in football selection.
On your question if a telephone number, I will explain to you the following:
I have no mobile telephone, it was stolen on Monday, May 30, 2005. The number is xxxxxxx.
On your question if I have filed a report on this, I will explain to you the following:
I did not file a report.
On your question why I didn’t file a report, I will explain to you the following:
I have not yet been to SETAR to buy. New I must buy if I want to preserve my old number.
On your question how long I’ve known Deepak and Satish, I will explain the following:
I know them think I approximately a year and a half.
On your question what kind of boys they are, I will explain to you the following:
They are quiet boys.
On your question what kind of friendship Joran has with Deepak and Satish, I will explain to you the following:
They are ordinary friends. Joran and I are better friends than Joran and Deepak and Satish.
On your question if I knew if Joran had left some gym shoes on the beach, I will explain to you the following:
I know nothing of it.
S.GOTTENBOS
After I, KELLY read the declaration of the witness S. GOTTENBOS to him, explained he thereby to persist and sign these.
Of what our, statement on oath of office made up this proces-verbaal, and has been signed at Oranjestad on June 16 2005 and has been closed.
Signed,
S.B. KELLY C.A. BURKE
PROCESS - VERBAL
We, Shaniro Baldrik KELLY and Clyde Anthony BURKE, respectively sergeant and sergeant first class at the korps police force Aruba and at the research district classified 2, explain the following.
On Thursday, June 16 2005 around 17:10, we spoke with, as a witness and have taken the statement of the man who gave his name to be;
Sander GOTTENBOS
born in the Netherlands on January 1990, schoolboy at (Colegio Arubano) and living at the address of Malmok XX. This statement was given in Dutch to me and was put on record and sounds as follows:
I known Joran since I was little, since my family and I came to live on the island.
On your question what did Joran tell me concerning what happened with the missing girl, I can explain to you the following:
Joran told me that he met the girl in the "Excelsior casino" in the "Holiday Inn hotel". He said that he had met the girl during gambling at the tables in the casino. He said that the girl had lost an amount of US 350 = during gambling. Joran had helped her win a part of the aforementioned amount. This was an amount of US 175 = Joran said that the girl wanted him to go to "Carlos & Charlies". Joran had called Haime (Jaime). Haime is a friend of ours. Haime lives in the hamlet Alto Vista. Haime could not go because he had to work. Next Joran called Deepak and Satish. Joran told them about the girl at "Excelsior Casino he had picked up". They drove in Deepak’s car to "Carlos & Charlies". They went to Carlos & Charlies and saw the girl dance on the podium. He further told me that they drank "jello shots". I cannot remember if Joran told me how they left Carlos & Charlies. Joran explained further that Natalee wanted to see the sharks at the "Light house". Joran said he told Natalee there were no sharks. Joran said that they drove in the direction the "Lighthouse" and that the girl in the neighborhood of Arashi fell asleep. Joran said they turned around at the “Lighthouse” and turned back towards the Holiday Inn. Joran said that They, Deepak and Satish and him turned off near the “Holiday Inn Hotel” and left the little girl. Joran told me they left her behind the lobby. Joran had told me this tale after the police force had spoken with him. I do not think that it was on Wednesday, I am not exactly sure.
On your question what I mean with normal behavior of Joran, I can explain the following:
I mean that he was acting normally. He had to nothing hide.
On your question how Joran behaved them selves after what happened on May 30, 2005, I will explain the following:
Joran behaved very normal.
On your question how many times I’ve seen Joran after what happened on May 30, 2005, I will explain the following:
I have seen him approximately four times.
On your question if I spoke with Joran all for times, I will explain the following: Yes, I spoke with him but not each time concerning what happened.
On your question if I’ve see Joran at the “Raquet Club” after it happened, I can explain to you the following:
I have seen him at the “Raquet Club”. I think that it was week afterwards. He was with its father. They participated in a father and son tournament.
On your question if I have been at Joran’s house after what happened: I can explain to you the following:
I have been at its house after it happened. I have been three times at its house.
On your question who were also at Joran’s house when I went there, I will explain to you the following:
I went twice with my brother Koen, Amanda, Flor and Gilayta. The little girls had gone with me three times.
On your question concerning what we spoke about, I will explain to you the following:
We spoke at times concerning what happened and the rest was simply social conversation.
On your question if Joran in those conversations told more of what had happened, I will explain to you the following:
Joran told us nothing new.
On your question what did Joran think what happened to the missing little girl, I will explain to you the following:
He said that he had no idea what happened to the missing little girl or where she could be.
On your question who Joran’s girlfriend is and if I know of earlier girlfriends, I will explain to you the following:
Flor is a type girlfriend but his real girlfriend was Elaine. Elaine goes to: "Colegio Arubano". I do not know where she lives or her number. His earlier girlfriends are named Stephania, Melody and Gilian. Joran had more but I cannot remember the names now. Gilian and Stephania are no longer on the island. Melody lives somewhere in Salinja Cerca.
On your question how he handled several girls, I will explain to you the following:
I found that he was kind with the girls.
On your question if I have contact with Joran by means of the computer, I will explain to you the following: I had almost daily contact with Joran if he was online.
On your question what my e-mail address is, I will explain to you the following: My e-mail address is xxxxxxxx@hotmail.com.
On your question what name I use on the computer if I am online, I will explain to you the following:
Before Joran was apprehended, I used the nickname Sander. Now I, "Joran, nos tin bo back pa semper, ta sinti hopi malo uses pa wak con nan ta danja bo bida" (free translation statementt: Joran we have your back for always, we feel our complete to see badly how them you name for damaging to be.)
On your question for why I think they are damaging his name, I will explain to you the following:
I know Joran well and know that Joran would never do something like that. Deepak and Satish would never do something like that also.
On your question if I was with Joran in the carnavals season when there was an incident, I will explain to you the following:
Yes I was with him on that day. On that day there was a parade in Oranjestad. We stood on the bridge at the Wilhelmina Park. That moment a druggie came to us. Joran had given him beer. The druggie had thrown the beer on the ground and started annoying us. Joran had called the police force that stood near. The police force had removed the druggie. After a while the druggie returned and started annoying us. He had grabbed Satish at its hand and wanted with him fight. At that moment Joran grabbed him and threw him off the bridge into the water.
On your question what I thought about the actions of Joran at that moment, I will explain to you the following:
I found that he had acted well. The druggie came to annoy.
On your question if I am aware of any other incidents where Joran was involved in a fight, I will explain to you the following:
I can think of no more.
On your question if I go to the movies with, I will explain to you the following:
I frequently go with Joran to the movies. My brother, Deepak, Satish and sometimes Andre generally go together themselves to the film.
On your question if I am possibly aware of an incident that took place at the “cinema”, I will explain to you the following:
Joran had told me, I do not remember well at this moment, but Joran told me he had fallen into a boy by a showcase (glass?) According to Joran this had not happened deliberately.
On your question what I think happened with the little girl (Natalee), I will explain to you the following:
I do not know what happened to her but I am 200% certain that Joran has not done this. He would do never something like that.
On your question if I was at the “Raquet Club” on Monday May 30, 2005, I will explain to you the following:
I did not go on that day to aforementioned club. I have selection training on Mondays. I am present in football selection.
On your question if a telephone number, I will explain to you the following:
I have no mobile telephone, it was stolen on Monday, May 30, 2005. The number is xxxxxxx.
On your question if I have filed a report on this, I will explain to you the following:
I did not file a report.
On your question why I didn’t file a report, I will explain to you the following:
I have not yet been to SETAR to buy. New I must buy if I want to preserve my old number.
On your question how long I’ve known Deepak and Satish, I will explain the following:
I know them think I approximately a year and a half.
On your question what kind of boys they are, I will explain to you the following:
They are quiet boys.
On your question what kind of friendship Joran has with Deepak and Satish, I will explain to you the following:
They are ordinary friends. Joran and I are better friends than Joran and Deepak and Satish.
On your question if I knew if Joran had left some gym shoes on the beach, I will explain to you the following:
I know nothing of it.
S.GOTTENBOS
After I, KELLY read the declaration of the witness S. GOTTENBOS to him, explained he thereby to persist and sign these.
Of what our, statement on oath of office made up this proces-verbaal, and has been signed at Oranjestad on June 16 2005 and has been closed.
Signed,
S.B. KELLY C.A. BURKE
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Andre De Santos June 20
PROCES – VERBAAL
We, Dennis Dominico JACOBS and Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES, head agent and agent first class at the Korps Police force Aruba, former classified at the (Atraco team) and last mentioned district 2, explain the following at the section to multi-crime classified.
On June 20 2005, around 17:15, we interrogated, took a statement, as a witness of this man called:
Andre Montival AOKI Dos SANTOS,
Also known as "Dre", born at Sao Paolo in Brazil, on October 15, 1986, a student at (Mon Plaisier college) and living in Palm Beach number XXX on Aruba.
I, JACOBS, put on record and sounds as follows, statement given in papiamento.
On your question if I know the men " Joran Van Der SLOOT "," Deepak KALPOE and Satish KALPOE”:
I answer you yes.
I’ve known Joran longer than Deepak and Satish. I know Joran already approximately six (6) years. I know Satish already approximately two (2) years and I know Deepak already approximately (1) a year.
On your question if I on Sunday, May 29 2005, met Joran, Deepak and Satish, I answer you the following:
On Sunday, May 29, 2005, around 16:30, I met Joran in the Excelsior casino of the Holiday Inn hotel. The moment I met Joran I was in the company of my father called "Montival SANTOS". Joran was in the company of father named “Paul” that is when my father and I met them in the “Excelsior Casino”. On that day we played in a "Texas Hold'm poker Tournament". Joran was first to be eliminated from the tournament. I no longer remember at what time Joran lost. I saw that Joran then played "black-Jack" and I continued play poker. After I was eliminated from the poker game I went over to Joran who was still sitting at the black-jack table. I no longer remember what time I left the poker table. When I stood beside Joran, I saw that there was a group of American students who were on holiday in Aruba talking. I saw that Joran helped one of the girls play black-jack. Joran told me that he was busy helping the girl with black-jack because according to Joran she had lost much money. After Joran helped the girl, Joran and I walked around in the Excelsior casino. I saw the group girls who were playing black-Jack with Joran walk by and I heard the girls say he should go to Carlos & Charlies later in the evening hours because they would like to meet him there. Joran answered for them not to worry, he would go. On Sunday, May 29, 2005 in the evening hours, after the Texas Hold'm poker Tournament at the Excelsior casino I ran into “Elvis KELLY ", and his wife "Gladys” and we all got into my fathers pick up and drove away. My father acted as a driver for our two passengers in his green pick-up of the make Ford Ranger, license plate number "A-23793". We drove first to Wendy's Palm Beach to buy food and after we had eaten, my father dropped off Elvis and Gladys at their home. Elvis and Gladys live in the hamlet Noord. I don’t know their address but I can designate to you their house. After we dropped Elvis and wife at their home my father and I went home. I no longer remember what time we got home. I studied first and afterwards slept because I had a "physics" examination to take on Monday, May 30, 2005, from 07.30 till 10.00. I do recall that Joran asked me if I wanted to accompany him to Carlos & Charlies but I answered him that I could not go because I had an examination the next day.
On your question if I on Monday, May 30, 2005, in the night hours, after I went to sleep if anyone woke me or called me:
I will answer you no.
On Monday, May 30 2005, in the morning hours, my mother wakened me because I had to leave to take my examination. I must say that my sister "Alessandra" and my younger brother "Arthur" went with me in my father’s pick-up to school.
On your question if I met Joran, Deepak or Satish on Monday, May 30, 2005, I answer you the following:
According to me, on Monday, May 30, 2005, in the afternoon hours, Joran sent me a message from his cell phone. Setar GSM provided with the number "5xxxxxx" me reported on my mobile telephone. Setar GSM provide with the number "5xxxxxx". According to me Joran me sent me a message with the question if I wanted to go to the Casa Blanco casino at the Wyndham that night. I did not answer Joran because when the message came I was sleeping.
On Monday, May 30, 2005, around 20.00, my father and I went to the casino at the Wyndham hotel to play Texas Hold’m poker. When I arrived I met Elvis KELLY and his spouse there "Gladys" and I greeted them. When we arrived I called Joran from the mobile telephone of my father “Montival”. My father has the mobile telephone number "5xxxxxx". I asked Joran if he was on his way to the Wyndham hotel casino to play in the Texas Hold’m tournament. Joran told me he was on his way there. Around 20.30, Joran walked in to the Casa Blanca casino of the Wyndham hotel. I can no longer remember how Joran was dressed when he walked into the casino. I do remember that Joran walked in by himself. I walked up to Joran and I greeted him. I saw that Joran then registered to play Texas Hold’m poker. I must say that it lasted very long before the Tournament stared. I saw that Joran played black-jack during this time. Three Card but I now no longer remember which of the two. When I started Tournament I saw that Joran sat at another table to play poker. Joran did not play long because he was eliminated very early from this poker tournament. I no longer remember what time Joran was eliminated. I saw that Joran walking around in the casino. I saw then that "Guido WEAVER" came into the Casa Blanca casino of the Wyndham hotel and walked up to Joran. I no longer remember what time Guido WEAVER arrives at the casino. Because Joran and Guido wanted to play a “live game”, they told me they went to Joran’s house to pick up money to gamble with. I no longer remember how Guido was dressed. I saw that Joran and Guido then went outside. When Joran and Guido left I was still in the Texas Hold'm poker Tournament. I estimate that it was approximately 30 or 40 minutes after Joran and Guido left the Casa Blanca casino that I was eliminated from the poker tournament. After I was eliminated, I called Guido and/or Joran on their mobile telephone. Guido has the mobile telephone with the number "5xxxxxx". I asked to Joran and/or Guido where they were they told me they were at the casino at the Radisson hotel and would wait for me there. I told them that I would be there later. Approximately 30 minutes after I had spoken with Joran and/or Guido I left the casino at the Wyndham hotel and walked to the casino at the Radisson hotel. I estimate that the complete route lasted (10) minutes. I found Joran and Guido in the casino of the Radisson hotel and they were in a Texas Hold'm poker "Live-Game". I remained watching them gamble for a very long time. At some time I saw that "Deepak" walk into the casino and came up to us. At some time, I no longer remember the exact time, Guido, Joran and Deepak left the casino and I stayed behind. Approximately (1) one hour later, Guido returned because he had silver-plate US $100 =, chip. I no longer remember if Guido continued to gamble but I am certain that Joran did. After Joran was done at the poker table he had won approximately US $400 = and cashed in the chips immediately. I walked to the bathroom and afterwards Joran also came into the bathroom but we spoke of nothing in particular. Then Joran and Deepak left because they wanted to play black-jack at a casino in Oranjestad.
They did not tell me to which casino they would go. After Deepak and Joran were gone "Guido WEAVER" and I went home (left). On your question if Joran and Deepak spoke of picking up shoes while in the casino of the Radisson hotel, I answer you no. At absolutely no moment did I hear this. I must, however, say that Joran and Deepak did not speak in my presence with each other than when Joran cashed in his chips but I was standing at a distance when they spoke with each other. I no longer remember if Guido was with them at that time.
On your question if I had Tuesday, May 31, 2005 and on Wednesday, June 01, 2005, contact with Joran, Deepak and Satish, I answer you the following:
According to me I had called Joran on of these two days to ask him what he would be doing. You can in my phone records look at when I called Joran or he called me because I no longer remember when. I had no telephone contact with Deepak and Satish.
A day before Joran was apprehended by you, I met Joran around 19.00, at the Aruba Raquet club. I asked Joran how he felt and he told me that he felt calm because the 2 security guards had been apprehended by the police force. Joran me asked what I would do the next day because he wanted to practice basketball and further that I was invited the next evening to his Graduation Night. This was the last time that I spoke with Joran.
On your question if I have an e-mail has address, answer I you yes. My e-mail address is xxxxxxxxx@hotmail.com. Sometimes I use chat name or "A.S." or "Andre" if I am to the chat.
On your question if I know Joran’s friends and if I have contact with them, answer I you the following:
The friends of Joran are Koen GOTTENBOS, Sander GOTTENBOS, Guido WEAVER, "Jaime" and "Freddy". I don’t know the surnames of Jaime and Freddy.
On your question if I know the e-mail chat name of these persons, answer you the following:
I have the e-mail addresses of Koen and Sander in my computer at home. I don’t have the e-mail addresses of Joran, Guido, Jaime and Freddy.
This is my true statement. If you have more questions, I will prepare to answer them.
A.M. AOKI dos SANTOS
After the witness A.M. AOKI dos SANTOS read his declaration, explained he thereby persist and signed them.
Of what our, statement, on oath of office made up this warrant, has been closed and has been signed at Oranjestad on June 20, 2005.
Signed,
DD JACOBS L.A.G. CROES
PROCES – VERBAAL
We, Dennis Dominico JACOBS and Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES, head agent and agent first class at the Korps Police force Aruba, former classified at the (Atraco team) and last mentioned district 2, explain the following at the section to multi-crime classified.
On June 20 2005, around 17:15, we interrogated, took a statement, as a witness of this man called:
Andre Montival AOKI Dos SANTOS,
Also known as "Dre", born at Sao Paolo in Brazil, on October 15, 1986, a student at (Mon Plaisier college) and living in Palm Beach number XXX on Aruba.
I, JACOBS, put on record and sounds as follows, statement given in papiamento.
On your question if I know the men " Joran Van Der SLOOT "," Deepak KALPOE and Satish KALPOE”:
I answer you yes.
I’ve known Joran longer than Deepak and Satish. I know Joran already approximately six (6) years. I know Satish already approximately two (2) years and I know Deepak already approximately (1) a year.
On your question if I on Sunday, May 29 2005, met Joran, Deepak and Satish, I answer you the following:
On Sunday, May 29, 2005, around 16:30, I met Joran in the Excelsior casino of the Holiday Inn hotel. The moment I met Joran I was in the company of my father called "Montival SANTOS". Joran was in the company of father named “Paul” that is when my father and I met them in the “Excelsior Casino”. On that day we played in a "Texas Hold'm poker Tournament". Joran was first to be eliminated from the tournament. I no longer remember at what time Joran lost. I saw that Joran then played "black-Jack" and I continued play poker. After I was eliminated from the poker game I went over to Joran who was still sitting at the black-jack table. I no longer remember what time I left the poker table. When I stood beside Joran, I saw that there was a group of American students who were on holiday in Aruba talking. I saw that Joran helped one of the girls play black-jack. Joran told me that he was busy helping the girl with black-jack because according to Joran she had lost much money. After Joran helped the girl, Joran and I walked around in the Excelsior casino. I saw the group girls who were playing black-Jack with Joran walk by and I heard the girls say he should go to Carlos & Charlies later in the evening hours because they would like to meet him there. Joran answered for them not to worry, he would go. On Sunday, May 29, 2005 in the evening hours, after the Texas Hold'm poker Tournament at the Excelsior casino I ran into “Elvis KELLY ", and his wife "Gladys” and we all got into my fathers pick up and drove away. My father acted as a driver for our two passengers in his green pick-up of the make Ford Ranger, license plate number "A-23793". We drove first to Wendy's Palm Beach to buy food and after we had eaten, my father dropped off Elvis and Gladys at their home. Elvis and Gladys live in the hamlet Noord. I don’t know their address but I can designate to you their house. After we dropped Elvis and wife at their home my father and I went home. I no longer remember what time we got home. I studied first and afterwards slept because I had a "physics" examination to take on Monday, May 30, 2005, from 07.30 till 10.00. I do recall that Joran asked me if I wanted to accompany him to Carlos & Charlies but I answered him that I could not go because I had an examination the next day.
On your question if I on Monday, May 30, 2005, in the night hours, after I went to sleep if anyone woke me or called me:
I will answer you no.
On Monday, May 30 2005, in the morning hours, my mother wakened me because I had to leave to take my examination. I must say that my sister "Alessandra" and my younger brother "Arthur" went with me in my father’s pick-up to school.
On your question if I met Joran, Deepak or Satish on Monday, May 30, 2005, I answer you the following:
According to me, on Monday, May 30, 2005, in the afternoon hours, Joran sent me a message from his cell phone. Setar GSM provided with the number "5xxxxxx" me reported on my mobile telephone. Setar GSM provide with the number "5xxxxxx". According to me Joran me sent me a message with the question if I wanted to go to the Casa Blanco casino at the Wyndham that night. I did not answer Joran because when the message came I was sleeping.
On Monday, May 30, 2005, around 20.00, my father and I went to the casino at the Wyndham hotel to play Texas Hold’m poker. When I arrived I met Elvis KELLY and his spouse there "Gladys" and I greeted them. When we arrived I called Joran from the mobile telephone of my father “Montival”. My father has the mobile telephone number "5xxxxxx". I asked Joran if he was on his way to the Wyndham hotel casino to play in the Texas Hold’m tournament. Joran told me he was on his way there. Around 20.30, Joran walked in to the Casa Blanca casino of the Wyndham hotel. I can no longer remember how Joran was dressed when he walked into the casino. I do remember that Joran walked in by himself. I walked up to Joran and I greeted him. I saw that Joran then registered to play Texas Hold’m poker. I must say that it lasted very long before the Tournament stared. I saw that Joran played black-jack during this time. Three Card but I now no longer remember which of the two. When I started Tournament I saw that Joran sat at another table to play poker. Joran did not play long because he was eliminated very early from this poker tournament. I no longer remember what time Joran was eliminated. I saw that Joran walking around in the casino. I saw then that "Guido WEAVER" came into the Casa Blanca casino of the Wyndham hotel and walked up to Joran. I no longer remember what time Guido WEAVER arrives at the casino. Because Joran and Guido wanted to play a “live game”, they told me they went to Joran’s house to pick up money to gamble with. I no longer remember how Guido was dressed. I saw that Joran and Guido then went outside. When Joran and Guido left I was still in the Texas Hold'm poker Tournament. I estimate that it was approximately 30 or 40 minutes after Joran and Guido left the Casa Blanca casino that I was eliminated from the poker tournament. After I was eliminated, I called Guido and/or Joran on their mobile telephone. Guido has the mobile telephone with the number "5xxxxxx". I asked to Joran and/or Guido where they were they told me they were at the casino at the Radisson hotel and would wait for me there. I told them that I would be there later. Approximately 30 minutes after I had spoken with Joran and/or Guido I left the casino at the Wyndham hotel and walked to the casino at the Radisson hotel. I estimate that the complete route lasted (10) minutes. I found Joran and Guido in the casino of the Radisson hotel and they were in a Texas Hold'm poker "Live-Game". I remained watching them gamble for a very long time. At some time I saw that "Deepak" walk into the casino and came up to us. At some time, I no longer remember the exact time, Guido, Joran and Deepak left the casino and I stayed behind. Approximately (1) one hour later, Guido returned because he had silver-plate US $100 =, chip. I no longer remember if Guido continued to gamble but I am certain that Joran did. After Joran was done at the poker table he had won approximately US $400 = and cashed in the chips immediately. I walked to the bathroom and afterwards Joran also came into the bathroom but we spoke of nothing in particular. Then Joran and Deepak left because they wanted to play black-jack at a casino in Oranjestad.
They did not tell me to which casino they would go. After Deepak and Joran were gone "Guido WEAVER" and I went home (left). On your question if Joran and Deepak spoke of picking up shoes while in the casino of the Radisson hotel, I answer you no. At absolutely no moment did I hear this. I must, however, say that Joran and Deepak did not speak in my presence with each other than when Joran cashed in his chips but I was standing at a distance when they spoke with each other. I no longer remember if Guido was with them at that time.
On your question if I had Tuesday, May 31, 2005 and on Wednesday, June 01, 2005, contact with Joran, Deepak and Satish, I answer you the following:
According to me I had called Joran on of these two days to ask him what he would be doing. You can in my phone records look at when I called Joran or he called me because I no longer remember when. I had no telephone contact with Deepak and Satish.
A day before Joran was apprehended by you, I met Joran around 19.00, at the Aruba Raquet club. I asked Joran how he felt and he told me that he felt calm because the 2 security guards had been apprehended by the police force. Joran me asked what I would do the next day because he wanted to practice basketball and further that I was invited the next evening to his Graduation Night. This was the last time that I spoke with Joran.
On your question if I have an e-mail has address, answer I you yes. My e-mail address is xxxxxxxxx@hotmail.com. Sometimes I use chat name or "A.S." or "Andre" if I am to the chat.
On your question if I know Joran’s friends and if I have contact with them, answer I you the following:
The friends of Joran are Koen GOTTENBOS, Sander GOTTENBOS, Guido WEAVER, "Jaime" and "Freddy". I don’t know the surnames of Jaime and Freddy.
On your question if I know the e-mail chat name of these persons, answer you the following:
I have the e-mail addresses of Koen and Sander in my computer at home. I don’t have the e-mail addresses of Joran, Guido, Jaime and Freddy.
This is my true statement. If you have more questions, I will prepare to answer them.
A.M. AOKI dos SANTOS
After the witness A.M. AOKI dos SANTOS read his declaration, explained he thereby persist and signed them.
Of what our, statement, on oath of office made up this warrant, has been closed and has been signed at Oranjestad on June 20, 2005.
Signed,
DD JACOBS L.A.G. CROES
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Jaime Carrasquilla June 17
PROCES-VERBAAL
We, Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES and Dennis Dominico JACOBS, respectively officer first class and head officer, with the Korps Politie Aruba, first mentioned officer is attacked to the Section Often Occurring Crimes district II and the latter with the Robbery Project team (Atraco team), declare the following.
On June 17th 2005, approximately 13.50 hours, we the reporting officers, interviewed as a witness the man named:
Jaime Alberto CARRASQUILIA CACERES, born in Columbia on April 25 1985, E.P.I.(Sector Economico) and living ****** ***** ****** *** on Aruba.
His statement goes as follows.
"My friends and acquaintances call me "Beto". I have known Joran since August 2004. Through the man named "Freddy Zedan" I met with Joran. One day I went to Joran's house with Freddy and since then we kept in contact. Usually Joran, Freddy, Koen, Sander and me go out together. Joran's nickname is "Jojo", Freddy's nickname is "Fefi", Koen's nickname is "Cul" and Sander's nickname is "Nepi". The places we usually go out to are "Carlos & Charlies", "Bahia", Tandra", "Cinema" and the beach near the big hotels. A place we regularly visit is "Carlos & Charlies".
To your question whether I drive a car, my answer to you is affirmative. I drive a green Honda Civic, made in 1997 or 1998. I cannot remember the plate-number right now but it is registered to my big brother named "Miguel Angel CARRASQUILIA CACERES".
To your question as to what kind of person Joran is, I can state the following. He is a good friend. I have never had a problem with him. I do not know him to be an aggressive person. I have seen Joran drunk before. When Joran is drunk, he is a truly happy person at least on the occasions where I witnessed him being drunk.
On May 29th 2005, between the hours of 16.00 and 19.00, I was called by Joran on my mobile phone with the phone number "*******". Sometimes Joran calls me on the mobile phone of my sister, her name is "Maria del Pilar CARRASQUIXIA CACERES". Her calling name is "Pilar". The mobile phone number of Pilar is "*******". The mobile phone number of Joran is "*******". Joran had asked me whether I wanted to go out with him that night. He told me that a few American girls would go to "Carlos & Charlies" and whether I wanted to meet up with him there. According to me I had said to Joran that I would let him know later that day whether or not I would go out with him that night. I had also said to Joran that I had to work the next day. According to me I was phoned later that day by Joran again but I hadn't answered my mobile phone. Because it is the vacation now I temporarily work in "Caribbean Overseas". I work in the big Poolkasten. On May 29th 2005 I stayed home and slept. I went to bed at approximately 22.00 hours.
On May 30th 2005, in the nightly hours, I had not talked to Joran. It is possible that Joran phoned me, but I didn't answer my mobile phone because I was sleeping. I am sure that Joran did not send me any messages with his mobile phone in the night of May 30th 2005.
On May 30th 2005, approximately 06.00 hours, I woke up. I went for a run. I ran to Wendy's Palm Beach and at approximately 07.00 hours, I returned home. I do not know how many kilometers that is. After I got home I went and showered and at approximately 07.45 hours, i went to work. Between the hours of 08.00 and 17.00, I was not phoned by Joran. After I finished work I went straight home and at approximately 17.30 I arrived home. After that I didn't go out that day. According to me I wasn't phoned that day by Joran. Joran had on that day also sent messages. It is possible he gave me an "missed-call" message on my phone but I am not sure about that. I at least did not call Joran because I had no money/minutes left on my pre-paid phone so I couldn't call him. At approximately 23.00, I had to pick up my father where he works. My dad works at the Wyndham Hotel. After I picked up my father from work we drove home. At approximately 23.20, we arrived home and I immediately went to sleep/bed.
On May 31th 2005, approximately 05.45 hours, I woke up and approximately 06.00 hours, I went and ran the same route.
On June 1st 2005, approximately 05.45 hours, I woke up. I did not go for a run that day. I stayed and watch sport news on TV. Approximately 07.45 hours, I left for work again and at approximately 17.30 hours that day, I returned home. According to me I stayed home again that day.
I do not remember with certainty what day it was or what time it was, when Joran called me on my mobile phone. Joran asked me whether I could remember that one day he had asked me to go out together with a few American girls. Joran told me that the girl that had gone out with him had gone missing now and that Deepak, Satish and he dropped off the girl at the "Holiday Inn Hotel". Joran said that he would talk to me about it later. I answered Joran that that was fine. (With Joran, Deepak and Satish is meant the suspects "Joran Andreas Petrus van der SLOOT", "Deepak Sharma KALPOE" and "Satish Shanaa KALPOE; comment Croes).
After that if I am not mistaken it was the beginning of June 2005, it was a Friday- or Saturday night that I bought a pizza at Domino's and then went to Joran's place. (with this the 3rd or 4th of June is meant; comment Croes). On that day I arrived at approximately 21.00 hours at Joran's place. I saw that "Koen", "Sander" and Joran were in the apartment of Joran and that they were playing poker. Koen and Sander are brothers but I do not know their last name. I had told Joran that I would be bringing them a pizza and a coca-cola. I also asked Joran if they had found the missing girl. Joran answered me that the missing girl had not been found yet. Then Joran told me that Deepak, Satish and he drove in the four door grey car, make Honda Civic that was owned by Deepak to "Carlos & Charlies" and that the three of them had then driven around with the missing girl. According to Joran the girl was strange. Joran told me that the girl was strange because she told him that her mother was "Hitler's sister". Joran told me that the girl wanted to see the sharks in the sea of Aruba and that they had dropped off the missing girl at the Holiday Inn Hotel.
When Joran was telling me this is father entered the apartment and after that the subject was not spoken about anymore. At approximately 23.00 hours, I left Joran's to pick up my dad from where he worked.
After that I was again called by Joran on my mobile phone. I cannot remember the date or the time when he called me. Joran had told me to come and spend the night together with "Freddy" at his place. According to me it was on a Friday or a Saturday. I had told Joran that I would come over to his place to spend the night. But I did not go to his place. On that day I went out to dinner with my girlfriend named "Karina ROMERO". The next day in the early hours of the morning, I had sent Joran a message that I hadn't been able to spend the night at his place because I had been busy. After that I got a message from Joran saying that it was OK/cool.
To your question whether Joran wanted me to keep something for him, I can state the following. Joran had not given me anything that I should keep for him.
To your question whether if had helped Joran with regard to the case surrounding the missing girl "Natalee Ann Holloway", I answer you the following. What I just told you is what Joran told me. I know nothing else about the missing girl.
To your question as to who "Andre" is, I answer you that he is a friend of Joran's. He lives in Palm beach. I do not know what car he drives. According to me he goes to the "Mon Plaisier College". I don't have Andre's mobile telephone number and I do not know his last name either. I can point out to you the house where Andre lives. I further have to remark that Joran goes to casino with Andre. Andre has a younger/smaller brother called "Arthur".
To your question as to who "Guido" is, I answer you that he too is a friend of Joran's. He regularly plays tennis with Joran at the "Raquet Club". Joran told me that Guido is a croupier at the casino but he did not mention to me which casino. I do not know the mobile telephone number of Guido. I have to remark that Guido speaks funny and that according to me he is "gay".
To you question as to who "pimp" is, I answer you that it is us, meaning the friends of Joran call each other that. It is a habit to call each other pimp.
To your question whether I know a Spanish speaking girl named "Stephanie", I answer you affermative. She is a Columbian girl and according to me she is the girlfriend of Joran. According to me Stephanie lives in the hamlet of Moko but I do not know the number of her house.
To your question whether I know the man named "Max Arends", I answer you the following. He is a friend of Joran and he is also at the "International School". According to me his name is "Maximillian Arends".
This is my truthful given statement. If you have further questions, I am willing to answer them.
J. A. CARRASQUILIA CACERES,
After witness J.A. CARRASQUILLA CACERES, had read his statement he stated that he would persist in it and then he signed it.
Of this we, CROES and JACOBS, on our out as officers have made this proces-verbaal, closed and signed on June 17th 2005.
PROCES-VERBAAL
We, Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES and Dennis Dominico JACOBS, respectively officer first class and head officer, with the Korps Politie Aruba, first mentioned officer is attacked to the Section Often Occurring Crimes district II and the latter with the Robbery Project team (Atraco team), declare the following.
On June 17th 2005, approximately 13.50 hours, we the reporting officers, interviewed as a witness the man named:
Jaime Alberto CARRASQUILIA CACERES, born in Columbia on April 25 1985, E.P.I.(Sector Economico) and living ****** ***** ****** *** on Aruba.
His statement goes as follows.
"My friends and acquaintances call me "Beto". I have known Joran since August 2004. Through the man named "Freddy Zedan" I met with Joran. One day I went to Joran's house with Freddy and since then we kept in contact. Usually Joran, Freddy, Koen, Sander and me go out together. Joran's nickname is "Jojo", Freddy's nickname is "Fefi", Koen's nickname is "Cul" and Sander's nickname is "Nepi". The places we usually go out to are "Carlos & Charlies", "Bahia", Tandra", "Cinema" and the beach near the big hotels. A place we regularly visit is "Carlos & Charlies".
To your question whether I drive a car, my answer to you is affirmative. I drive a green Honda Civic, made in 1997 or 1998. I cannot remember the plate-number right now but it is registered to my big brother named "Miguel Angel CARRASQUILIA CACERES".
To your question as to what kind of person Joran is, I can state the following. He is a good friend. I have never had a problem with him. I do not know him to be an aggressive person. I have seen Joran drunk before. When Joran is drunk, he is a truly happy person at least on the occasions where I witnessed him being drunk.
On May 29th 2005, between the hours of 16.00 and 19.00, I was called by Joran on my mobile phone with the phone number "*******". Sometimes Joran calls me on the mobile phone of my sister, her name is "Maria del Pilar CARRASQUIXIA CACERES". Her calling name is "Pilar". The mobile phone number of Pilar is "*******". The mobile phone number of Joran is "*******". Joran had asked me whether I wanted to go out with him that night. He told me that a few American girls would go to "Carlos & Charlies" and whether I wanted to meet up with him there. According to me I had said to Joran that I would let him know later that day whether or not I would go out with him that night. I had also said to Joran that I had to work the next day. According to me I was phoned later that day by Joran again but I hadn't answered my mobile phone. Because it is the vacation now I temporarily work in "Caribbean Overseas". I work in the big Poolkasten. On May 29th 2005 I stayed home and slept. I went to bed at approximately 22.00 hours.
On May 30th 2005, in the nightly hours, I had not talked to Joran. It is possible that Joran phoned me, but I didn't answer my mobile phone because I was sleeping. I am sure that Joran did not send me any messages with his mobile phone in the night of May 30th 2005.
On May 30th 2005, approximately 06.00 hours, I woke up. I went for a run. I ran to Wendy's Palm Beach and at approximately 07.00 hours, I returned home. I do not know how many kilometers that is. After I got home I went and showered and at approximately 07.45 hours, i went to work. Between the hours of 08.00 and 17.00, I was not phoned by Joran. After I finished work I went straight home and at approximately 17.30 I arrived home. After that I didn't go out that day. According to me I wasn't phoned that day by Joran. Joran had on that day also sent messages. It is possible he gave me an "missed-call" message on my phone but I am not sure about that. I at least did not call Joran because I had no money/minutes left on my pre-paid phone so I couldn't call him. At approximately 23.00, I had to pick up my father where he works. My dad works at the Wyndham Hotel. After I picked up my father from work we drove home. At approximately 23.20, we arrived home and I immediately went to sleep/bed.
On May 31th 2005, approximately 05.45 hours, I woke up and approximately 06.00 hours, I went and ran the same route.
On June 1st 2005, approximately 05.45 hours, I woke up. I did not go for a run that day. I stayed and watch sport news on TV. Approximately 07.45 hours, I left for work again and at approximately 17.30 hours that day, I returned home. According to me I stayed home again that day.
I do not remember with certainty what day it was or what time it was, when Joran called me on my mobile phone. Joran asked me whether I could remember that one day he had asked me to go out together with a few American girls. Joran told me that the girl that had gone out with him had gone missing now and that Deepak, Satish and he dropped off the girl at the "Holiday Inn Hotel". Joran said that he would talk to me about it later. I answered Joran that that was fine. (With Joran, Deepak and Satish is meant the suspects "Joran Andreas Petrus van der SLOOT", "Deepak Sharma KALPOE" and "Satish Shanaa KALPOE; comment Croes).
After that if I am not mistaken it was the beginning of June 2005, it was a Friday- or Saturday night that I bought a pizza at Domino's and then went to Joran's place. (with this the 3rd or 4th of June is meant; comment Croes). On that day I arrived at approximately 21.00 hours at Joran's place. I saw that "Koen", "Sander" and Joran were in the apartment of Joran and that they were playing poker. Koen and Sander are brothers but I do not know their last name. I had told Joran that I would be bringing them a pizza and a coca-cola. I also asked Joran if they had found the missing girl. Joran answered me that the missing girl had not been found yet. Then Joran told me that Deepak, Satish and he drove in the four door grey car, make Honda Civic that was owned by Deepak to "Carlos & Charlies" and that the three of them had then driven around with the missing girl. According to Joran the girl was strange. Joran told me that the girl was strange because she told him that her mother was "Hitler's sister". Joran told me that the girl wanted to see the sharks in the sea of Aruba and that they had dropped off the missing girl at the Holiday Inn Hotel.
When Joran was telling me this is father entered the apartment and after that the subject was not spoken about anymore. At approximately 23.00 hours, I left Joran's to pick up my dad from where he worked.
After that I was again called by Joran on my mobile phone. I cannot remember the date or the time when he called me. Joran had told me to come and spend the night together with "Freddy" at his place. According to me it was on a Friday or a Saturday. I had told Joran that I would come over to his place to spend the night. But I did not go to his place. On that day I went out to dinner with my girlfriend named "Karina ROMERO". The next day in the early hours of the morning, I had sent Joran a message that I hadn't been able to spend the night at his place because I had been busy. After that I got a message from Joran saying that it was OK/cool.
To your question whether Joran wanted me to keep something for him, I can state the following. Joran had not given me anything that I should keep for him.
To your question whether if had helped Joran with regard to the case surrounding the missing girl "Natalee Ann Holloway", I answer you the following. What I just told you is what Joran told me. I know nothing else about the missing girl.
To your question as to who "Andre" is, I answer you that he is a friend of Joran's. He lives in Palm beach. I do not know what car he drives. According to me he goes to the "Mon Plaisier College". I don't have Andre's mobile telephone number and I do not know his last name either. I can point out to you the house where Andre lives. I further have to remark that Joran goes to casino with Andre. Andre has a younger/smaller brother called "Arthur".
To your question as to who "Guido" is, I answer you that he too is a friend of Joran's. He regularly plays tennis with Joran at the "Raquet Club". Joran told me that Guido is a croupier at the casino but he did not mention to me which casino. I do not know the mobile telephone number of Guido. I have to remark that Guido speaks funny and that according to me he is "gay".
To you question as to who "pimp" is, I answer you that it is us, meaning the friends of Joran call each other that. It is a habit to call each other pimp.
To your question whether I know a Spanish speaking girl named "Stephanie", I answer you affermative. She is a Columbian girl and according to me she is the girlfriend of Joran. According to me Stephanie lives in the hamlet of Moko but I do not know the number of her house.
To your question whether I know the man named "Max Arends", I answer you the following. He is a friend of Joran and he is also at the "International School". According to me his name is "Maximillian Arends".
This is my truthful given statement. If you have further questions, I am willing to answer them.
J. A. CARRASQUILIA CACERES,
After witness J.A. CARRASQUILLA CACERES, had read his statement he stated that he would persist in it and then he signed it.
Of this we, CROES and JACOBS, on our out as officers have made this proces-verbaal, closed and signed on June 17th 2005.
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