Natalee Ann Holloway - "Missing for 4 years"

[WordsofWisdom]

“She suddenly didn’t do anything anymore,” Van der Sloot said of the 18-year-old Holloway, in a conversation with a man he believed to be his friend.
"I shook the bitch."

Van der Sloot said he panicked and tried but failed to revive Holloway before calling a friend with a boat to dispose of the body.

“The ocean is big,” he said.

Nice guy some of you are supporting, not?

Even if he was just blowing air out of his ass, doesn't matter. He SAID it, no denying that.

In this country we call 911 if a person with us isn't breathing.

In THIS country you are innocent until proven guilty.
In THIS country the family and friends would have been questioned immediately.
In THIS country the family and their friends that lied and manipulated the facts would have been arrested for interfereing in an investigation.

As for that tape- it has absolutely NO value.
Until the entire tape is heard and all parties involved are questioned.
For all you know, it was a script - to make money.
Kinda like "Dr." Phool's tape.
You really don't know.

[Alexandria]

Well in the video I just watched, it was straight from Jorans mouth.
And he didn't look drunk or high to me.

[WordsofWisdom]

I suppose it's better to mock the victim and the victim's family right?

Some statements said Natalee was left in a healthy state. Earlier comments from all three were she was very drunk when she left CnC's. Her school pals also said she wasn't drunk however I believe they were just covering their own butts.

lol
The "family" mocked themselves AND Natalee.

Her school pals were just as drunk as she was.
AND covering their asses.

[WordsofWisdom]

Well in the video I just watched, it was straight from Jorans mouth.
And he didn't look drunk or high to me.

Which Video was that?

[prolific]

Missed 4 years?
Says who?

She might be engaged, and she might be married. She might even have 4 kids. She might be in Mounain Brook, Alabama with her new nose job and a new hair color.

No facts says otherwise.

But you just said it was a FACT that she died from an over consumption of drugs and alcohol....FACT not theory..

[resigned]

In THIS country you are innocent until proven guilty.

Actually a person is presumed to be innocent in a court of law - that doesn't mean that a person is innocent.


And really.... let's face it - if a person is honestly presumed to be totally innocent they would never be suspects. And this forum isn't a court of law in this country or Aruba.

[Alexandria]

Which Video was that?

See my previous post.
Greta interview. Swore he sold her.
Swore daddy and his attorney know this.
Swore daddy paid $50,000 hush $$.

Greta went to Thailand for this interview iirc.

[Alexandria]

Oh, and he gave his attorney express permission to discuss this with Greta.

[WordsofWisdom]

See my previous post.
Greta interview. Swore he sold her.
Swore daddy and his attorney know this.
Swore daddy paid $50,000 hush $$.

Greta went to Thailand for this interview iirc.

Ohhhhhh.
The one where he later said he lied?
The one that directly contradicts other statements, including the ones a lot of folks are hanging onto even today? Even Beth Holloway Twitty?

Which one to believe?
I dunno.....

[resigned]

See my previous post.
Greta interview. Swore he sold her.
Swore daddy and his attorney know this.
Swore daddy paid $50,000 hush $$.

Greta went to Thailand for this interview iirc.

I saw it too. Joran was just getting even with Greta - so the story goes...or it was a school project...so another story goes.....he was lashing out against his parents because they cut off the money..so another story goes..... Whatever looks like the well opened up again $$$....all is calm for now.

[WordsofWisdom]

But you just said it was a FACT that she died from an over consumption of drugs and alcohol....FACT not theory..

No I didn't.

Bill O'Reilly did.

I believe she is alive and well, thank you very much.

[resigned]

And Joran had a document signed by the Kalpoe's attoeney to receive a millions dollars once they got the loot from CBS/McGraw. So he said. Nice guy....make any parent proud.

[Alexandria]

No I didn't.

Bill O'Reilly did.

I believe she is alive and well, thank you very much.

Do you seriously believe she is alive and well???

[resigned]

No I didn't.

Bill O'Reilly did.

I believe she is alive and well, thank you very much.

Where do you think she is?

WordsofWisdom wrote:

Never been found?
Perhaps because it was never "lost"?

It has not even been established a crime was committed.

[WordsofWisdom]

Neither did I.

huh?

Sure you did.... it's in your post above.

[prolific]

In THIS country you are innocent until proven guilty.
In THIS country the family and friends would have been questioned immediately.
In THIS country the family and their friends that lied and manipulated the facts would have been arrested for interfereing in an investigation.

As for that tape- it has absolutely NO value.
Until the entire tape is heard and all parties involved are questioned.
For all you know, it was a script - to make money.
Kinda like "Dr." Phool's tape.
You really don't know.

So obviously you have seen 'all' of the friends and family's police statements? So what lies and manipulations did they tell in their statements TO POLICE...not what did they say on tv but lies and manipulations TO POLICE that they would have been arrested for in the US...from the few we saw they sure weren't lying about natalee drinking.....unlike the prime suspect's lies TO POLICE...would he be he be held accountable in the US for all of his lies and manipulatiing the facts?

And the tape has no value to who? Message board posters...Internet Detectives? Until the entire tape is heard by who? Same people?

[WordsofWisdom]

So obviously you have seen 'all' of the friends and family's police statements? So what lies and manipulations did they tell in their statements TO POLICE...not what did they say on tv but lies and manipulations TO POLICE that they would have been arrested for in the US...from the few we saw they sure weren't lying about natalee drinking.....unlike the prime suspect's lies TO POLICE...would he be he be held accountable in the US for all of his lies and manipulatiing the facts?

And the tape has no value to who? Message board posters...Internet Detectives? Until the entire tape is heard by who? Same people?

Last I heard even ALE was not given the entire set of tapes.

[WordsofWisdom]

Do you seriously believe she is alive and well???

Yes.

[resigned]

Last I heard even ALE was not given the entire set of tapes.

By Whom?

[Alexandria]

Yes.

wow.




(lol. that is your nic, I guess.)

[prolific]

Last I heard even ALE was not given the entire tape.

When was the last you heard? The one and only comment about not handing it over was made years ago when the tape was first finished when DeVries made a comment about it.

Hard to believe that years later, with the renewed investigation and after 25 new investigators had been put back on the case that they still never bothered to watch the whole thing but then again with all these new things we've recently learned about how inept every last one of them are anything is possible..

And about all of those friends and family's lies and manipulations TO POLICE in their police statements.........

[prolific]

No I didn't.

Bill O'Reilly did.

I believe she is alive and well, thank you very much.

Right...you didn't believe it at all, my mistake... So all of your posts really were pointless since you didn't/don't even believe the alcohol cocaine overdosing AFTER she left the prime suspect either...good to know..

http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/viewto ... ine#915468

[WordsofWisdom]

When was the last you heard? The one and only comment about not handing it over was made years ago when the tape was first finished when DeVries made a comment about it.

Oh? Now how would you know that to be true?
Do you really think that if you didn't read it, or hear it, it didn't happen?

Hard to believe that years later, with the renewed investigation and after 25 new investigators had been put back on the case that they still never bothered to watch the whole thing but then again with all these new things we've recently learned about how inept every last one of them are anything is possible..

Now see how you spun that?
The owners of that tape never turned all of the tapes over.
In spite of their statements that it was evidence.
In spite of the fact that ALE asked for it.

And you spin that to say that "ALE never bothered to watch the whole thing." How can they watch it if they don't HAVE it? eh?

Unfriggin believeable!
You are way too obvious these days.

[WordsofWisdom]

Right...you didn't believe it at all, my mistake... So all of your posts really were pointless since you didn't/don't even believe the alcohol cocaine overdosing AFTER she left the prime suspect either...good to know..

http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/viewto ... ine#915468

Seems you have a comprehension problem today.
Reread that thread and maybe you can figure out why I brought it up.

[WordsofWisdom]

Oh nevermind, I'll spill the beans...

I brought it up because YOU said:

Baloney...it was one of their ( ALE..who included FBI) working theories among other theories...they never 'reported' as FACT that Natalee od'd from drugs and alcohol...and there weren't various talking heads.

I was just showing you that were wrong- Bill O'LIElly did state it as FACT. (Not that I believed it- only that he did say it.)