The Refugees Unleashed

by **resigned** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:55 am

AlwaysL8 wrote:I took this part of GMBW's post above to mean that gielen was involved. I dunno, maybe I am reading it wrong.

You may be right - Gielen does credit herself with reporting live on the 9/11 story- whether any of that footage was used in what became the 9/11 - 2006 Dutch documentary on Twee Vangaard - I dunno for sure (yet) :lol:

Biografie Renée Gielen
(snipped)

•Serie live programma's na 11 september 2001: "Amerika vandaag". Gepresenteerd door Renée Gielen in duopresentatie met Gonzalo Cuales.

(snipped)

by **Bongo** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:16 am

luvslalom wrote:
That's why the Gielen hasn't done anymore EXTENSIVE work for them, lol.
Thanks GBMW, you're the only honest Netherlander here.

by **GBMW** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:16 am

With the other side I meant Natalee's family. But maybe she was also involved in that other report....looked Osama in his eyes and just knew it. :lol:

by **Bongo** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:19 am

GBMW wrote:With the other side I meant Natalee's family. But maybe she was also involved in that other report....looked Osama in his eyes and just knew it.

Sure, how honest

by **resigned** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:49 am

GBMW wrote:With the other side I meant Natalee's family. But maybe she was also involved in that other report....looked Osama in his eyes and just knew it.

Those weren't tears she may have seen......

by **luvslalom** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:20 am

WordsofWisdom wrote:
Observation:

There is a clear and distinct assault on Ms. Geilen and her credibility today. Something resembling a lynch mob. None of the attacks on this journalist is warranted.

This assault has actually backfired, IMO and revealed that there are some very scared people. Scared that the truth may emerge from her investigations. The usual modis operandi is being played out here at RU... Discredit Ms. Geilen before she reports the truth. It has happened many times and is very transparent to even the most casual of observers.
The truth will prevail.
Regardless of the attempts to discredit her.

It won't work.

by **Black-Tulip** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:38 am

luvslalom wrote:
That's why the Gielen hasn't done anymore EXTENSIVE work for them, lol.
Thanks GBMW, you're the only honest Netherlander here.

Another mistake here or did you forget THE SPACE?

by **Knipoog** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:48 am

luvslalom wrote:

That's why the Gielen hasn't done anymore EXTENSIVE work for them, lol.
Thanks GBMW, you're the only honest Netherlander here.

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I agree.

by **Black-Tulip** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:49 am

GBMW wrote:
BTW; I had to laugh at the rotzak you threw in the sentence in an earlier post. Was that the word that was behind Joran when you looked it up in the dictionary?

I thought it was with the help of Kees van der Spek.

by **Black-Tulip** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:51 am

Knipoog wrote:luvslalom wrote:

That's why the Gielen hasn't done anymore EXTENSIVE work for them, lol.
Thanks GBMW, you're the only honest Netherlander here.

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I agree.

Alle Kretenzers zijn leugenaars. ~Epimenides

by **Knipoog** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:04 am

Black-Tulip wrote:

Alle Kretenzers zijn leugenaars. ~Epimenides

De paradox.

Never heard of it btw but now I lie. Or am I lying that I lie?

by **resigned** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:11 am

Black-Tulip wrote:

Alle Kretenzers zijn leugenaars. ~Epimenides

Did they used to post on message boards? :lol:

by **WordsofWisdom** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:19 pm

AlwaysL8 wrote:
GMAFB, we are all just a bunch of message board posters. I for one do not claim nor portray myself to be anything but. The truth does not scare me one little bit, but I must say the twisting and spinning for joran is clearly not the truth. No matter what the truth is, it will not affect my life whatsoever.

Renee Geilen is fair game, she has inserted herself in this case with her load of BS. It is your right to buy into it, it is others' right to call it as they see it...BS. It is apparent she is not investigating anything but postings on message boards, we had heard it all long before her crockumentary was put on pay-per-view because no credible outlet was available to her biased attempt to slam Natalee and those who loved her. That no outlet or monetary help was available to her tells the value of her trash. She discredited herself.

And speaking of attempting to discredit, isn't that what has been done to anyone who supported Natalee, her family and friends, anyone who did not/does not believe in the main suspect in the Natalee Holloway disappearance? How did that work for ya?

YOUR opinion does not trump others opinions. YOU don't KNOW the truth, Geilen doesn't KNOW the truth. Deal with it.

I also believe the truth will prevail.
I would love to see the look and the egg on your face when it does.

Hold that thought. :lol:

by **Glenda** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:33 pm

Black-Tulip wrote:
I thought it was with the help of Kees van der Spek.

Yep. That is the way it happened.

by **resigned** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:41 pm

Glenda wrote:
Yep. That is the way it happened.

Did anyone tie strings to Joran's mouth and move it like a marionette?

by **Glenda** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:47 pm

resigned wrote:
Did anyone tie strings to Joran's mouth and move it like a marionette?

Money can produce the most amazing words. Just ask the Landfill Witness and the Gardener.

by **resigned** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:02 pm

Glenda wrote:
Money can produce the most amazing words. Just ask the Landfill Witness and the Gardener.

February 1, 2008 Joran Calls Pauw & Witteman

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so dum...so dum..... :cry:

by **WordsofWisdom** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:14 pm

Glenda wrote:
Money can produce the most amazing words. Just ask the Landfill Witness and the Gardener.

And Beth.

by **resigned** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:34 pm

Glenda wrote:
Money can produce the most amazing words. Just ask the Landfill Witness and the Gardener.

....or Tourism Authorities

by **Linda in L.A.** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:53 am

Glenda wrote:
Money can produce the most amazing words. Just ask the Landfill Witness and the Gardener.

Should we be asking the cabdriver too?

by **Heli** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:30 am

Linda in L.A. wrote:
Should we be asking the cabdriver too?

... or the MB "witnesses" ... or Tim Miller ... or T.J. Ward ... or the frozen condom witness ... or the ex-Secret Service agent .. etcetera, etcetera.

When a case is larded with people motivated by $$, social standing and all things save for the truth, there's little chance that Natalee Holloway's fate will ever be known. It's a continuing exercise in wheel spinning.

by **Linda in L.A.** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:33 am

Heli wrote:
... or the MB "witnesses" ... or Tim Miller ... or T.J. Ward ... or the frozen condom witness ... or the ex-Secret Service agent .. etcetera, etcetera.

When a case is larded with people motivated by $$, social standing and all things save for the truth, there's little chance that Natalee Holloway's fate will ever be known. It's a continuing exercise in wheel spinning.

So are you saying now that the MB "witnesses" ... or Tim Miller ... or T.J. Ward ... or the frozen condom witness ... or the ex-Secret Service agent were all motivated by money?? C'mon now...I doubt you believe that.

Joran, sure. Beth maybe after she realized she would never see Natalee again. Some "journalists" definetly. The rest...I don't buy it (no pun intended).

by **Heli** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:49 pm

Linda in L.A. wrote:
So are you saying now that the MB "witnesses" ... or Tim Miller ... or T.J. Ward ... or the frozen condom witness ... or the ex-Secret Service agent were all motivated by money?? C'mon now...I doubt you believe that.

Joran, sure. Beth maybe after she realized she would never see Natalee again. Some "journalists" definetly. The rest...I don't buy it (no pun intended).

I believe I suggested the motivations were "$$, social standing and all things save for the truth" It seems I forgot "fame" and "being in the spotlight" as other motivations greater than the truth.

BTW, I do believe it wholeheartedly.

by **resigned** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:04 pm

Heli wrote:
I believe I suggested the motivations were "$$, social standing and all things save for the truth" It seems I forgot "fame" and "being in the spotlight" as other motivations greater than the truth.

BTW, I do believe it wholeheartedly.

That sounds like Joran van der Sloot to me too.

by **luvslalom** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:21 pm

Heli wrote:
I believe I suggested the motivations were "$$, social standing and all things save for the truth" It seems I forgot "fame" and "being in the spotlight" as other motivations greater than the truth.

BTW, I do believe it wholeheartedly.

Pretty well all that put themselves in the case then.

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