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On March 9, 2006 it was Carlo.

Postby iquitos » Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:35 pm

That was AFTER he was suspended.


Diario; March 9, 2006

HUEZ A NENGA PETICION DI ABOGADO CARLO, DI DECLARA JORAN VAN DER SLOOT COMO NO SOSPECHOSO

ORANJESTAD (AAN): Wednesday, the judge’s decision became known, in the case which attorney Carlo brought forward, representing Joran van der Sloot.

Attorney Antony Carlo started a case a few weeks back, to request that the Public Prosecutor declare that his client Joran van der Sloot is officially no longer a suspect in the case of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, or to instruct the Public Prosecutor to set a period of time within which they have to start a case against his client.

Both petitions were denied by judge Smid of Curacao.
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two more attorneys

Postby iquitos » Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:38 pm

substitute teacher, substitute judge, substitute lawyer. get it? carlo remained his attorney but they hired two more.

no matter how you parse it carlo is still joran's lawyer and always was.
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Postby Hannie » Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:47 pm

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People with NO influence do not have to concern themselves with appearances of impropiety. :lol:


Has nothing to do with influence, only with ethics, but I guess you are quite aware of that little fact... :lol:
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iquitos wrote:
what was he a sort of staff assistant? paper pusher? in any case he was then for three years a substitute judge who as far as we know never heard a case.


He was interviewing partners for his law firm. :lol:

I think being a replacement judge indicates that he heard cases.
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Has nothing to do with influence, only with ethics, but I guess you are quite aware of that little fact... :lol:


I am aware of what is ethical and what isn't. Did Aruba?


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Re: two more attorneys

Postby resigned » Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:16 pm

iquitos wrote:substitute teacher, substitute judge, substitute lawyer. get it? carlo remained his attorney but they hired two more.

no matter how you parse it carlo is still joran's lawyer and always was.


It is the official Aruban OM spokeswoman Mariaine Croes' words that is being parsed - not mine.

Croes said the Dutch teenager has a team of lawyers, so Carlo's removal will not leave van der Sloot without representation. The spokeswoman is not related to Steve Croes
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Maybe there was a Dutch translation error? - she may have really meant to say Deepak with a Honda.
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Postby iquitos » Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:24 pm

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He was interviewing partners for his law firm. :lol:

I think being a replacement judge indicates that he heard cases.


the title is substitute judge. we don't know that he ever heard/read a case.
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Re: On March 9, 2006 it was Carlo.

Postby resigned » Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:25 pm

iquitos wrote:That was AFTER he was suspended.


Diario; March 9, 2006

HUEZ A NENGA PETICION DI ABOGADO CARLO, DI DECLARA JORAN VAN DER SLOOT COMO NO SOSPECHOSO

ORANJESTAD (AAN): Wednesday, the judge’s decision became known, in the case which attorney Carlo brought forward, representing Joran van der Sloot.

Attorney Antony Carlo started a case a few weeks back, to request that the Public Prosecutor declare that his client Joran van der Sloot is officially no longer a suspect in the case of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, or to instruct the Public Prosecutor to set a period of time within which they have to start a case against his client.

Both petitions were denied by judge Smid of Curacao.



Nice to see you sourcing Diario for facts. :lol: ....By that time (March 2006) Meester van der Sloot was a partner in the law firm of Carlo and van der Sloot. Crazy shit...especially with those concerns of impropiety. Image

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Postby petals » Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:29 pm

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I am aware of what is ethical and what isn't. Did Aruba?

Did Aruba what? Understand ethics? That's a mighty broad brush you're painting with, there. Care to be more specific? The fact that Paulus withdrew from his active practice (whatever that may have been) certainly indicates that some on Aruba understood professional ethics very well.
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Postby iquitos » Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:35 pm

JANUARY, 2006
Amigoe - January 11, 2006
ARUBA - Paul van der Sloot, the father of Joran van der Sloot has joined the lawyers’ firm of Anthony Carlo and Richie Kock. The Common Court of the Neth.Antilles and Aruba will most probably swear him in next week. Carlo is very pleased: “He is a very skilful jurist. I have received only positive reactions from the professional group.” Van der Sloot was working as a trainee-judge for the Common Court of the Neth.Antilles and Aruba. Before that, he was working at the OM and was chief Legal Matters at the DJZ. Since Van der Sloot has not worked as a lawyer before, Carlo will function as his model for the next three years.
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not correct obviously but useful

Postby iquitos » Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:42 pm

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iquitos wrote:
the title is substitute judge. we don't know that he ever heard/read a case.


We don't know that he didn't.

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I don't think that Paulus would have stated that he was subsitute judge if he hadn't heard a case or cases. The subsitute judge distinction doesn't appear to be a given on the training path.
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iquitos wrote:JANUARY, 2006
Amigoe - January 11, 2006
ARUBA - Paul van der Sloot, the father of Joran van der Sloot has joined the lawyers’ firm of Anthony Carlo and Richie Kock. The Common Court of the Neth.Antilles and Aruba will most probably swear him in next week. Carlo is very pleased: “He is a very skilful jurist. I have received only positive reactions from the professional group.” Van der Sloot was working as a trainee-judge for the Common Court of the Neth.Antilles and Aruba. Before that, he was working at the OM and was chief Legal Matters at the DJZ. Since Van der Sloot has not worked as a lawyer before, Carlo will function as his model for the next three years.



Kock didn't mention being a partner in a law firm in his bio at Lexwell - He's no longer at Lexwell either.

www.lexwell.net/attorney5.html - [Cached Version]
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Richie (born in 1972, Aruba) graduated from Leiden University (the Netherlands) with a Masters degree in civil law (1998) and tax law (2000).He worked as a tax consultant for two leading tax consultant firms in the Netherlands.He returned to his country of birth Aruba in 2002, where he was admitted to the Bar of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba.He worked as an attorney in Aruba before joining Lexwell in November of 2006.

Ya Think Carlo threw the tax guy in as his mouthpiece for Joran? :lol:
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petals wrote: Care to be more specific?


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Postby iquitos » Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:58 pm

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Re: richie

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iquitos wrote:http://nl-nl.facebook.com/richie.kock


He returned to the Motherland. :D
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looks like richie is over at

Postby iquitos » Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:17 pm

bergman bloem and bergman

http://www.bbblegal.com/aboutus3.htm

so richie was with the carlo firm and briefly represented joran for the firm in court before moving on. then carlo returned to the case by March 2006 when he unsuccessfully moved in curacao to get Joran off the suspect list.
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richie is also a painter

Postby iquitos » Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:30 pm

http://www.bbblegal.com/richie_cv.php

Advocaat-Medewerker bij Bergman Bloem & Bergman,
attorneys at law/tax lawyers, Sint Maarten, Nederlandse Antillen 2007 - heden
Advocaat-Medewerker bij Lexwell Advocaten
Sint Maarten, Nederlandse Antillen 2006 - 2007
Advocaat-Medewerker bij Antonio Carlo Advocaten, Aruba 2005 - 2006
Advocaat-Stagiair bij Oomen & Offringa Advocaten, Aruba
2002 - 2005
Junior Belastingadviseur bij Ernst & Young, Nederland/Rotterdam
2001 - 2002
Junior Belastingadviseur bij PriceWaterHouseCoopers,
Nederland/Amsterdam
2000 - 2001
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Re: looks like richie os over at

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iquitos wrote:bergman bloem and bergman

http://www.bbblegal.com/aboutus3.htm

so richie was with the carlo firm and briefly represented joran for the firm in court before moving on. then carlo returned to the case by March 2006 when he unsuccessfully moved in curacao to get Joran off the suspect list.


Did he? :? Your source, Jossy- says Carlo started that motion - doesn't say who in the firm finished it.

February 13, 2008:

VAN SUSTEREN: With who? He was practicing, at least with one of Joran's former lawyers. Is that still the arrangement?
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paulus was appointed substitute judge

Postby iquitos » Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:48 pm

http://www.regering.nl/Actueel/Persberi ... d/2002/12/

Benoemingen_Gemeenschappelijk_Hof_van_Justitie_van_de_Nederlandse_Antillen_en_Aruba

Benoemingen Gemeenschappelijk Hof van Justitie van de Nederlandse Antillen en Aruba

Persbericht | 20-12-2002
Ministerie van Binnenlandse Zaken en Koninkrijksrelaties

Persbericht Rijksministerraad

20 december 2002



BENOEMINGEN GEMEENSCHAPPELIJK HOF VAN JUSTITIE VAN DE NEDERLANDSE ANTILLEN EN ARUBA


De Rijksministerraad heeft op voorstel van minister Remkes van Binnenlandse Zaken en Koninkrijksrelaties ingestemd met een tweetal benoemingen.


De heer mr. G.E.M. Polkamp (52) wordt voorgedragen voor benoeming tot lid van het Gemeenschappelijk Hof van Justitie van de Nederlandse Antillen en Aruba. Momenteel is de heer Polkamp plaatsvervangend lid van het Hof. De benoeming gaat in op 1 januari 2003.


De heer mr. P.A.P.J. van der Sloot (50) wordt voorgedragen voor benoeming tot plaatsvervangend lid van het Gemeenschappelijk Hof van Justitie van de Nederlandse Antillen en Aruba. De heer van der Sloot is nu werkzaam als kabinetschef bij de procureur-generaal van Aruba. De benoeming gaat in op 1 januari 2003 voor een periode van drie jaar.


RVD, 20.12.2002
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Re: richie is also a painter

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iquitos wrote:http://www.bbblegal.com/richie_cv.php

Advocaat-Medewerker bij Bergman Bloem & Bergman,
attorneys at law/tax lawyers, Sint Maarten, Nederlandse Antillen 2007 - heden
Advocaat-Medewerker bij Lexwell Advocaten
Sint Maarten, Nederlandse Antillen 2006 - 2007
Advocaat-Medewerker bij Antonio Carlo Advocaten, Aruba 2005 - 2006
Advocaat-Stagiair bij Oomen & Offringa Advocaten, Aruba
2002 - 2005
Junior Belastingadviseur bij Ernst & Young, Nederland/Rotterdam
2001 - 2002
Junior Belastingadviseur bij PriceWaterHouseCoopers,
Nederland/Amsterdam
2000 - 2001


"Medewerker" doesn't sound like a partner to me.

Painting and practicing law.....One Happy Island. :lol:
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funny how goof oil and

Postby iquitos » Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:33 pm

the scientologist queen of the faux screen use first and former. one cannot rely on much they say about ferin countries and ferin laws.
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a few weeks back would be in january or february

Postby iquitos » Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:37 pm

AFTER he resume his duties as Joran's lawyer.

at some point in 2006 richie left.

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aren't puerto ricans american?

Postby iquitos » Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:44 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimberly_Guilfoyle

Guilfoyle is a first generation American. She was born in San Francisco to a Puerto Rican mother and an Irish father. She grew up in the Mission District and Westlake and is a graduate of Mercy High School, the University of California, Davis. She received her Juris Doctor (J.D.) from the University of San Francisco Law School. While in school, she worked as a catalogue model for Macy's and Victoria's Secret. After law school, she briefly worked as a prosecutor in San Francisco, but lost her job in 1996 when Terence Hallinan was elected District Attorney and fired 14 of the city's prosecutors. [2]

In January, 2004, Guilfoyle moved to New York to host the program Both Sides on Court TV, as well as take a job as a legal analyst on Anderson Cooper 360. In January 2005, citing the strain of a bi-coastal marriage, Guilfoyle filed for divorce from Newsom. Their divorce was finalized on February 28, 2006. [3] Guilfoyle took over as host of the Fox News Channel weekend show The Lineup on February 11, 2006. Fox relaunched the show with new music and graphics specifically as a vehicle for Guilfoyle.
On May 27, 2006, Guilfoyle married furniture heir Eric Villency on the island of Barbados. On October 4, 2006, she gave birth to her first child, a boy named Ronan Anthony.[4]
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Postby iquitos » Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:46 pm

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Kock didn't mention being a partner in a law firm in his bio at Lexwell - He's no longer at Lexwell either.

www.lexwell.net/attorney5.html - [Cached Version]
Published on: 5/12/2007 Last Visited: 5/12/2007
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Richie (born in 1972, Aruba) graduated from Leiden University (the Netherlands) with a Masters degree in civil law (1998) and tax law (2000).He worked as a tax consultant for two leading tax consultant firms in the Netherlands.He returned to his country of birth Aruba in 2002, where he was admitted to the Bar of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba.He worked as an attorney in Aruba before joining Lexwell in November of 2006.

Ya Think Carlo through the tax guy in as his mouthpiece for Joran? :lol:


i think he hired him as a front man.
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