Beth Holloway Launches Mayday 360 / Travel Safety

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Postby resigned » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:30 pm

iquitos wrote:irs suspended her tax exempt status for international safe travels: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/va.pdf


..... and thousands of others.

Nationwide, the IRS’ action trimmed the nonprofit sector by 17 percent, but the taxman told the Times that most of the organizations were likely no longer in operation.


http://lamorinda.patch.com/articles/irs ... -charities
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Postby resigned » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:41 pm

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VERY out of the ordinary for a simple missing case with no political overtones.


Sure it is - even more out of the ordinary that Aruba would be the locale for international political intrigue.

The Mountain Brook people had influence - no mystery - nothing out of the ordinary ---especially when they were having smoke blown up their ass because the prime suspect was the son of replacing Judge on Aruba. :lol:
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Postby patricehenri » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:52 pm

May Day whatever will follow suit soon enough. As will the "tv" show.

Just how many times can this poor individual FAIL at everything she does and attempts to do?

Perpetual loser.

Hopefully for her sake, one day it will sink in.
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another underage binge drinking case

Postby iquitos » Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:10 pm

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/201 ... p=obinsite

disappeared into thin air after losing her shoes and phone in a bar where she drank too much underage. Remember the American kid in Spain who disappeared walking home? He ended up dead in a canal. No foul play. Just too drunk. Her friends were too drunk to help her. sound familiar? wonder where tim and beth are.
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Postby nomdeguerre » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:29 pm

I do feel sorry for Beth Holloway. I do not like or approve of everything she has done by a long shot, but I know she must have been desperate, and after all, she is the mother of the victim.

Of course, her life is hers to rebuild and live as she sees fit. One can't help but wonder, though, if she would not have been better off in the long run as a speech pathologist in Mountain Brook than with these various ventures she has tried. The International Safe Travels Foundation apparently went belly up, and I would not be surprised to see MayDay360 do the same.

Air travel being the massive hassle it is these days, giving speeches in places like South Fargo, North Dakota would seem to me to be a tough way to make a living. To each her own, I suppose.
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Re: another underage binge drinking case

Postby resigned » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:31 pm

iquitos wrote:http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-06-09-missing-indiana-student_n.htm?csp=obinsite

disappeared into thin air after losing her shoes and phone in a bar where she drank too much underage. Remember the American kid in Spain who disappeared walking home? He ended up dead in a canal. No foul play. Just too drunk. Her friends were too drunk to help her. sound familiar? wonder where tim and beth are.


...Remember all the cases where the last person known to be seen with ended up being the killer? Anyone but Joran. :lol:
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Re: another underage binge drinking case

Postby CherokeeKid » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:19 pm

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...Remember all the cases where the last person known to be seen with ended up being the killer? Anyone but Joran. :lol:


Holly Bobo - her brother was the last known person to have seen her. He is not a suspect.

Austin Bice, the American student who went missing in Madrid/Spain. His body was found days later in the river next to the bar where his friends went. No one is a suspect. His death was ruled an accidental drowning, no signs of foul play, only that he was highly intoxicated.
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the point is that sometimes it

Postby iquitos » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:07 am

does not involve foul play.
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Re: the point is that sometimes it

Postby resigned » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:26 am

iquitos wrote:does not involve foul play.


And most of the time it does - without a body - it is hard to determine though.
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Postby DiamondDot » Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:20 am

The News of the World travails sounds like the slimey way POS Beth was stalking Joran for years.

Sweating much?
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Re: another underage binge drinking case

Postby K_Meine » Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:05 pm

iquitos wrote:http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-06-09-missing-indiana-student_n.htm?csp=obinsite

disappeared into thin air after losing her shoes and phone in a bar where she drank too much underage. Remember the American kid in Spain who disappeared walking home? He ended up dead in a canal. No foul play. Just too drunk. Her friends were too drunk to help her. sound familiar? wonder where tim and beth are.


The alcohol theme sounds familiar but that's about it. Rossman was helpful and allowed full searches whereas the VDS folks did not. Joran continued to lie and change his stories at random whilst Rossman has stuck to only what he can recall. I'd agree all of these so called friends were likely too inebriated to be effective at walking let alone aiding a friend but that still doesn't give anyone permission to take advantage of the situation. The kid in Spain was an actual accident whereas Holloway and Spierer were not.
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Re: another underage binge drinking case

Postby K_Meine » Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:10 pm

CherokeeKid wrote:
Holly Bobo - her brother was the last known person to have seen her. He is not a suspect.

Austin Bice, the American student who went missing in Madrid/Spain. His body was found days later in the river next to the bar where his friends went. No one is a suspect. His death was ruled an accidental drowning, no signs of foul play, only that he was highly intoxicated.


I thought Holly's brother was the last known person to see her walking away WITH someone dressed in camouflage. Therefore, the last person to see her was the person in the camouflage outfit, Yes?
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Re: the point is that sometimes it

Postby K_Meine » Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:29 pm

iquitos wrote:does not involve foul play.


That's true but sometimes it does. You do realize Joran created the suspicion he lives with everyday? The issue is the Kalpoes became involved when Natalee got in their car and then you have three people whose stories have to match perfectly. They STILL don't match up so most people wonder why that is so. Therefore, the suspicion will continue. Had Joran and Natalee left the bar on foot and Natalee was never seen again. Joran would have had the opportunity to stick to one story and one story only. He didn't and that simply doesn't look good. Oh, then he goes and kills Stephany because she was apparently looking up information on his laptop about something he wasn't involved in. Foul play for certain if you ask me.
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Postby patricehenri » Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:54 pm

It’s nice to see a parasitical so-called company specifically designed to shirk responsibilities of one’s own actions and words ‘in case’ and ‘when’. Oh one wishes for the days when one would man up and hold their own actions and words, instead of pointing the finger and blaming everyone else. I mean who’s responsibility is it when the ‘creepy guy’ in the van pulls up to the curb with ‘free candy’ on the side. And doesn’t do anything, except attempt more than once to shoo away the ‘less than competent’ from approaching. But dumb be dumb. Chip off the old block eh. Thick as a brick? Don’t stick your fingers in electrical wall sockets.

Obviously something ‘not wired right’ when they do do that, despite a incredible IQ scores, brilliance pouring from ever pore.

Oh not it’s not me. I did everything ‘right’ right. It’s that evil inviting electrical socket in the wall. I don’t own my child’s words or actions.

It would be wonderful if we as people for once wouldn’t allow everyone to blame ‘them’ and ‘it’ for their shortcomings. Like dropping hot coffee on your lap from McDonald's, ‘it shouldn’t have been so hot’, or derelict parents, failing in parenting and succumbing to a less than competent screaming and stomping to let them do and go where they shouldn’t.

It’s always sad when an innocent puppy gets run over. Who put the car in the fenced backyard. :(


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Postby K_Meine » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:42 pm

patricehenri wrote:It’s nice to see a parasitical so-called company specifically designed to shirk responsibilities of one’s own actions and words ‘in case’ and ‘when’. Oh one wishes for the days when one would man up and hold their own actions and words, instead of pointing the finger and blaming everyone else. I mean who’s responsibility is it when the ‘creepy guy’ in the van pulls up to the curb with ‘free candy’ on the side. And doesn’t do anything, except attempt more than once to shoo away the ‘less than competent’ from approaching. But dumb be dumb. Chip off the old block eh. Thick as a brick? Don’t stick your fingers in electrical wall sockets.

Obviously something ‘not wired right’ when they do do that, despite a incredible IQ scores, brilliance pouring from ever pore.

Oh not it’s not me. I did everything ‘right’ right. It’s that evil inviting electrical socket in the wall. I don’t own my child’s words or actions.

It would be wonderful if we as people for once wouldn’t allow everyone to blame ‘them’ and ‘it’ for their shortcomings. Like dropping hot coffee on your lap from McDonald's, ‘it shouldn’t have been so hot’, or derelict parents, failing in parenting and succumbing to a less than competent screaming and stomping to let them do and go where they shouldn’t.

It’s always sad when an innocent puppy gets run over. Who put the car in the fenced backyard. :(


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well stated.
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Postby resigned » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:56 pm

What does someone disappearing have to do with an electrical socket? :D If they stick their finger in a socket - the body will be found damn close to the socket - oh sure Joran will say that he told them not to put their finger in the socket and maybe he should have left the person with a responsible electrician ..but not his fault. Nothing ever is...
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Postby K_Meine » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:05 pm

resigned wrote:What does someone disappearing have to do with an electrical socket? :D If they stick their finger in a socket - the body will be found damn close to the socket - oh sure Joran will say that he told them not to put their finger in the socket and maybe he should have left the person with a responsible electrician ..but not his fault. Nothing ever is...


Which is a huge issue. Poor Joran has been lulled into believing he can get away with anything without any recourse because that's how he was raised and treated in Aruba. He no longer has his protectors to save him this time. IMO he's going to be in Peru for quite some time.
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Postby Knipoog » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:23 pm

1. Followers

2. Supporters

3. Protectors.

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Knipoog wrote:1. Followers

2. Supporters

3. Protectors.

What will it be tomorrow?


Insular circle of ex-pats? :lol:
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Postby Knipoog » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:59 pm

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Insular circle of ex-pats? :lol:


You mean the American Women club Aruba?
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You mean the American Women club Aruba?


No those ones that look like orange linebackers.
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Postby Knipoog » Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:02 pm

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No those ones that look like orange linebackers.


Expat is an old fashioned phenomemon in this global world.

The most expats Aruba had were American during the golden time of the
refinery(Texaco). They had their own compound with a lot of facilities.
Houses, bowling alley, restaurants, supermarket, tenniscourts, baseballfield, basketball court, baby beach, Roger's beach, movie theater and even a hospital. That's what I would call privileged.
Not many Dutch people on Aruba.
On Curacao there were many Dutch people.

It did change a bit when the refinery closed in 1986 and Aruba got it status aparte. A lot of work had to be done to establish their own government and other institutions since all that was done before by Curacao. So they did need a lot of help from Holland because Aruba was and is still a member of the Dutch Kingdom and under Dutch law. Technical assistence came from Holland.
Mostly these assistants stayed for 2 or 3 years. They come and go.
The vd Sloots were immigrants in Aruba. They gave up their jobs in Holland and took a job in Aruba to stay there.

There are no really Dutch clubs here , compounds or whatsoever.
There used to be a Surinam club(don't know if it still exist), the Chinese people have their own society they support each other, so do the Latin Americans. But for the most part people of different backgrounds work here and blend nicely.
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Knipoog wrote:Last quote does not exists!


Nice history lesson, but it was clear that the author of Portrait of a Monster was referring to the van der Sloots insular group of Dutch ex-pats living on Aruba. Hup ~ Hup ! :toast:

.....Joran fell in with the wrong crowd - local Arubans. :lol:
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Postby Knipoog » Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:21 pm

the author of Portrait of a Monster was referring to the van der Sloots insular group of Dutch ex-pats living on Aruba. Hup ~ Hup ! :toast:


That's exactly the reason I blame the author.
He has no clue and doesn't understand the situation.

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Knipoog wrote:the author of Portrait of a Monster was referring to the van der Sloots insular group of Dutch ex-pats living on Aruba. Hup ~ Hup ! :toast:


That's exactly the reason I blame the author.
He has no clue and doesn't understand the situation.

There are wrong people in every society.


Yes - even on the Happy Island.

The authors did an excellent job of placing the responsibility on Joran van der Sloot. They didn't get into the blaming everyone else for the situation Aruba found itself in........some might wanna learn from that phenomenom. :lol: Anita can put away her vintage collection of Hootie flyers - no one is buying that shit anymore. Hardly anyone believes she believed in him 200 percent from the get-go.
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