Is Natalee Holloway buried in a tomb?

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Postby resigned » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:25 am

"Some folks" had the ass for him - there were more that had his back.

The back won.
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that is so true

Postby iquitos » Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:07 am

ole ben had his back. appears he was useless though. i guess the only one really had his back was carlo who was nice enough to give him a job so he could pay for his son's defense.
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Postby iquitos » Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:10 am

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his "friends" searched his property

Postby iquitos » Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:39 am

four times?


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Re: his "friends" searched his property

Postby K_Meine » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:26 pm

iquitos wrote:four times?


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Sure, do anything multiple times and the public may think you;re doing something? They could search 100 times but if not in a timely manner, which it wasn't, it doesn't matter.
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Re: his "friends" searched his property

Postby iquitos » Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:24 pm

K_Meine wrote:
Sure, do anything multiple times and the public may think you;re doing something? They could search 100 times but if not in a timely manner, which it wasn't, it doesn't matter.


depends on what they are looking for. some stuff lasts a long time. i really think you sell the arubans/dutch/fbi short.
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Postby K_Meine » Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:04 am

iquitos wrote:
depends on what they are looking for. some stuff lasts a long time. i really think you sell the arubans/dutch/fbi short.


Your generalizing a bit much. In reality it was really only the Dutch (Van der Sloot's and Van Der Straten) who were the real issue. The FBI was kept at arm's length and the Arubans were merely taking orders from the Dutch.

As mentioned previously, IMO it was decided by someone that Natalee's death and disappearance wouldn't be good on a variety of levels so they made it go away. They probably thought how could one person be worth Joran's future, Paulus's becoming a judge, and the economic effects on the Aruban economy. Selfish is what it was.
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Postby Knipoog » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:34 pm

To our expert in Aruban and Dutch matters there is no Van Der Stratten
living in Aruba. Never has been.
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Postby yankee-in-france » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:35 pm

... wasn't his name, van Straaton, or something like that?
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Postby resigned » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:47 pm

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Postby yankee-in-france » Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:33 pm

.. thanks.
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Postby Knipoog » Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:40 pm

Hi Yiffy!

Good to see you coming out of the tomb in the tomb thread!
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Postby K_Meine » Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:16 pm

Knipoog wrote:To our expert in Aruban and Dutch matters there is no Van Der Stratten
living in Aruba. Never has been.


Ooops , a little heavy on the "T" key. However, I feel confident you knew whom I was referring too.
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Postby iquitos » Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:40 pm

K_Meine wrote:
Your generalizing a bit much. In reality it was really only the Dutch (Van der Sloot's and Van Der Straten) who were the real issue. The FBI was kept at arm's length and the Arubans were merely taking orders from the Dutch.

As mentioned previously, IMO it was decided by someone that Natalee's death and disappearance wouldn't be good on a variety of levels so they made it go away. They probably thought how could one person be worth Joran's future, Paulus's becoming a judge, and the economic effects on the Aruban economy. Selfish is what it was.


So now the Dutch are part of the cover up too? Does that include Nico Jorg? LOL. Were you there to see the FBI kept at arm's length. Did Ole Ben take care of that too?
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Postby yankee-in-france » Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:28 am

Knipoog wrote:Hi Yiffy!

Good to see you coming out of the tomb in the tomb thread!


It was awfully musty in that tomb. :D
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Postby K_Meine » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:13 am

iquitos wrote:
So now the Dutch are part of the cover up too? Does that include Nico Jorg? LOL. Were you there to see the FBI kept at arm's length. Did Ole Ben take care of that too?


I appreciate your efforts to make this a nationalistic issue, however, I was quite specific. Jan and Paulus are and were Dutch, not native Arubans, but Dutch. The issue is that IMO these two made decisions in THEIR own best interest and not in the long term interest of Aruba. You might say both have moved on to greener pastures and poor Aruba is likely still encountering some issues related to Natalee's disappearance.

As far as the FBI goes, No I was not there but it was well publicized the interference they met with. Then again with the amount of rubbish the media put out in regards to this case it's possible the FBI never even showed up. :oops:
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they are all dutch

Postby iquitos » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:49 am

some are Aruban Dutch. A lot of the legal infrastructure people of Antilles besides jan and paulus were/are Dutch Dutch. I am shocked you would think they are all involved in a vast conspiracy to protect paulus's son.
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Postby yankee-in-france » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:38 am

Doing a favor for a colleague or member of his family, even an unsolicited one need not be a conspiracy. It happens every day, everywhere.
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Postby Knipoog » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:41 pm

Can you help me to disappear an American girl please?
In return you can have my son's sneakers.
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Postby Knipoog » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:47 pm

K_Meine wrote:
I appreciate your efforts to make this a nationalistic issue, however, I was quite specific. Jan and Paulus are and were Dutch, not native Arubans, but Dutch. The issue is that IMO these two made decisions in THEIR own best interest and not in the long term interest of Aruba. You might say both have moved on to greener pastures and poor Aruba is likely still encountering some issues related to Natalee's disappearance.

As far as the FBI goes, No I was not there but it was well publicized the interference they met with. Then again with the amount of rubbish the media put out in regards to this case it's possible the FBI never even showed up. :oops:


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It was the other way around.
The FBI tried to interfere.
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Re: his "friends" searched his property

Postby AlwaysL8 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:36 pm

Knipoog wrote:
Funny.
It was the other way around.
The FBI tried to interfere.


Funny.
I believe they offered their service to help the investigation.
ALE's ego would not allow that.
And here we are..........still.
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Re: his "friends" searched his property

Postby Knipoog » Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:48 pm

AlwaysL8 wrote:
Funny.
I believe they offered their service to help the investigation.
ALE's ego would not allow that.
And here we are..........still.


They offered their help after they arrived in Aruba.
Talking about arrogance.
Their help was appreciated after all but sorry guys you are not running the investigation here.
You guys are not our bosses, ALE don't have to report to you, they report to the OM.
The same counts for all those governors, congressmen and others
who called and keeped the lines and ALE busy.
Next time Aruba will ask if they have a Dutch/Aruban
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Re: his "friends" searched his property

Postby AlwaysL8 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:26 pm

Knipoog wrote:Last quote does not exists!


Why is it arrogance to offer help?

It is obvious it was needed.
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Revising history ......

Postby resigned » Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:31 pm

The day after Natalee’s disappearance, I contacted Aruban authorities and they agreed to invite the FBI to the island. It was at that time I established ongoing communications with those authorities."



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Postby resigned » Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:32 pm

AlwaysL8 wrote:
Why is it arrogance to offer help?
It is obvious it was needed.


They might find out that a van der Sloot was involved in Natalee's disappearance. :lol:
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