PRETZER on Julia Renfro Police Statement TRANSCRIPT

[Fiery]

heartache2 wrote:

SandraK and Fiery misinformed BB biddies misinformed and full of shit message board biddies...... who... when in a pinch... like to accuse fellow posters... WHO THEY DO NOT KNOW A GODDAMNED THING ABOUT... of being someone other than who they are! Much like Dayo... who clearly is insane... and I would like to know who I am on RVW... and I would like to know sooner rather than later... 'cause this coy shit is bullshit... and the throw it out there and never address the question thing is bullshit ... which means that sandie and fiery are bullshit...

Okay, you are extremely confused. Therefore I ask you to please post the proof of what you are accusing ME of. Thank you in advance.

[Siddalee]

ViVi


She would be doing it as a person on the street. "I was assaulted, I want to make a report."

If the standard practice is to pay a small amount of money to anyone that submits a police report for their time and trouble, what is the big deal?

Maybe someone can post who knows.

No money was ever exchanged. This is an altered statement. This is propaganda, spam.

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ViVi


She would be doing it as a person on the street. "I was assaulted, I want to make a report."

If the standard practice is to pay a small amount of money to anyone that submits a police report for their time and trouble, what is the big deal?

Maybe someone can post who knows.

No money was ever exchanged. This is an altered statement. This is propaganda, spam.

Should we really be surprised? LOL All we need to do is consider the source and that is all that is really needed. But remember these are the Twitty/Holloway "investigators" and all any of them have come up with so far is bs

[Spuds]

and I called via my PC.. DD's Cell phone.. too FUNNY!!

Was that you Sandra?

[Black-Tulip]

ViVi & reddog

Why would it be a problem? I suggested something like bus fare. If it takes an hour or more to make a report and you get a buck, I don't see lots of people lining up to do it for fun and profit.

If true, it is different than the US, but we already know there are differences in the two systems.

Good Night

you really don't see the problem with folks getting paid to report?

oh well.....nite.

I do ...

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^ BT, too funny!

[Hannie]

I wonder if this case can get any more bizarre then it is for over a year now.....


If those assholes really think that you get paid by Aruba/Dutch law enforcement if you file a report or whatevah, then i guess there`s really nothing i can say anymore.........I never ever in my life have seen such crap, and i really seriously think those people need to be locked up somewhere in a mental institution and never let out of it again..... O my.......

[Kellan]

Reddog: How many members do scaredmonkeys, BFN, and that other site they mentioned have? And how many are regular posters? I am thinking that all together, minus multiple niks and site duplicates, they can't have more than about 1,000 hard core tops! What do you think? One of them said they had hundreds and hundreds of thousands at their sites. I say that's a big fat lie. What say you?

I don't know if it has been said yet, but don't forget all the members that are still on the memberlist, but have had their passwords deactivated by the administration.





Kellan

[prolific]

Well it looks like Debbie at BFN is formally saying this statement is true. When it is proven to be a fake, Julia needs to take the kid gloves off and go after these people. Joe or rosemarie can get the job done for her. This has gone on long enough.


Debbie
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Re: Julia Renfro's Statement
« Reply #308 on: Today at 09:50:49 AM »

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Let me just clarify a point.... I would never post anything here if I did not completely trust the source of the information. I have great faith in things I post. I would never intentionally hurt the integrity of this forum or my own integrity by posting something here that I did not believe was accurate.

I would also like to ask that we spend less time talking about the Refugees, I do not care to give them a voice here, we can always go there to read their thoughts.

[Hannie]

Integrity? What integrity?

[refugee_lurker_27]

Reddog asked: How many members do scaredmonkeys, BFN, and that other site they mentioned have? And how many are regular posters? I am thinking that all together, minus multiple niks and site duplicates, they can't have more than about 1,000 hard core tops! What do you think? One of them said they had hundreds and hundreds of thousands at their sites. I say that's a big fat lie. What say you?

100 Tops[/quote]


SandraK, I think you are being very very very generous, unduly so.



I think that there are so many individuals using multiple ids and posting on *all* the sites, under a whole variety of guises, both pro & con, for & agin' ---- that, truly, the grand total of unique individual real life human beings couldn't possibly be more than around 5 dozen, TOPS.

AND it is because the forums contain so very very very few actual Real Life human beings, as opposed to dozens & dozens & 100s of Sock Puppets, that probably at least some board owners might be getting nervous whether they can be held accountable for perpetrating MIRAGE, lol, lol, lol - and thus, the LLC of SM,Inc.

[Siddalee]

Well it looks like Debbie at BFN is formally saying this statement is true. When it is proven to be a fake, Julia needs to take the kid gloves off and go after these people. Joe or rosemarie can get the job done for her. This has gone on long enough.

Debbie
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Re: Julia Renfro's Statement
« Reply #308 on: Today at 09:50:49 AM »

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Let me just clarify a point.... I would never post anything here if I did not completely trust the source of the information. I have great faith in things I post. I would never intentionally hurt the integrity of this forum or my own integrity by posting something here that I did not believe was accurate.

I would also like to ask that we spend less time talking about the Refugees, I do not care to give them a voice here, we can always go there to read their thoughts.

They could just go to SM to read what goes on here, Klaasend re-posts a good many of our comments on SM - she spends most of her time here, it seems.

[Heli]

Well it looks like Debbie at BFN is formally saying this statement is true. When it is proven to be a fake, Julia needs to take the kid gloves off and go after these people. Joe or rosemarie can get the job done for her. This has gone on long enough.


Debbie
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Re: Julia Renfro's Statement
« Reply #308 on: Today at 09:50:49 AM »

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Let me just clarify a point.... I would never post anything here if I did not completely trust the source of the information. I have great faith in things I post. I would never intentionally hurt the integrity of this forum or my own integrity by posting something here that I did not believe was accurate.

I would also like to ask that we spend less time talking about the Refugees, I do not care to give them a voice here, we can always go there to read their thoughts.

Whatevah!!

This latest document smells like Jossy

In the alternative as I've posted previously, the document went from JQK to Beth to BFN. The question is at what point was a translation made and by whom and what's the reliability of the translator. There've been a lot of problems in this case that stem from the language barrier.

To Wit:

Dana:

Heres's a question, about the media in Aruba, in particular Julia Renfro. Is it fair for other media people to speak about her, as far as her investigative reporting and any biases that go either way and the professionalism thereof. COuld you comment on her, we hear she's writing a book, are there other cases of media in Aruba that just should be brought forward as far as bad reporting goes

JossY

I can't comment on a colleague, but I'll say she's been proven wrong many times I dont know why she's writing a book for what purpose or objective with that. The best thing she can do is reporting the facts, and stop being against the family like she is now.

[Maybelline]

Siddalee wrote:

They could just go to SM to read what goes on here, Klaasend re-posts a good many of our comments on SM - she spends most of her time here, it seems.

Not only that, but I noticed Klaas has started using signgenerator.org after SandraK used it here with their logo displayed. Of course, the idjit monkeys think she's a genius because she didn't tell that she got the idea from SandraK.

Of course, I loved the signgenerator.org, and will probably use it, but I will acknowledge that I learned about it from SandraK.

How about you Klaas?

[pathenry]

She may be covering her butt stating she believes it to be true, but there is still a question as to whether posting it she showed reckless disregard as to whether it was true, or not.

Lil' Debbie needs to state exactly who sent her the statement and what she did, if anything, to confirm that is was authenticate.

[Talitha]

I wonder if this case can get any more bizarre then it is for over a year now.....


If those assholes really think that you get paid by Aruba/Dutch law enforcement if you file a report or whatevah, then i guess there`s really nothing i can say anymore.........I never ever in my life have seen such crap, and i really seriously think those people need to be locked up somewhere in a mental institution and never let out of it again..... O my.......

Huh, I thought I read it wrong I can't imagine someone being so dumb as to actually believe such a thing.

[prolific]

She may be covering her butt stating she believes it to be true, but there is still a question as to whether posting it she showed reckless disregard as to whether it was true, or not.

Lil' Debbie needs to state exactly who sent her the statement and what she did, if anything, to confirm that is was authenticate.

She'll never do that and no one there will ask her to do that. It's pretty simple, they like the message, the fact that it demonizes Aruba and Julia. They could care less where it came from or knowing if it's authentic.

I do think Debbie finally dug herself a major hole claiming this is true.

[Heli]

She may be covering her butt stating she believes it to be true, but there is still a question as to whether posting it she showed reckless disregard as to whether it was true, or not.

Lil' Debbie needs to state exactly who sent her the statement and what she did, if anything, to confirm that is was authenticate.

If you look at the thread Glenda started this morning, it would seem the posturing has begun. Hope Beth Twitty is paying attention

[Glenda]

She may be covering her butt stating she believes it to be true, but there is still a question as to whether posting it she showed reckless disregard as to whether it was true, or not.

Lil' Debbie needs to state exactly who sent her the statement and what she did, if anything, to confirm that is was authenticate.

Debbie needs to put up the Dutch version of the Police Report.

For the record -- The Fox producer told Julia that Jug told him that "the family" thinks both Julia and Charles are being paid by the government to get them off the island -- sounds like Jug was trying to discredit what Julia & Charles told Greta.

To this day, I wonder why it was so important for "The Family" to discredit anyone and everyone who didn't repeat their lies?

[Hannie]

Is there a chance we can get our hands on the Dutch version of this report?



Yes Talitha, in a way it is funny, but also sad that some people actually believe this......

[Glenda]

Well it looks like Debbie at BFN is formally saying this statement is true. When it is proven to be a fake, Julia needs to take the kid gloves off and go after these people. Joe or rosemarie can get the job done for her. This has gone on long enough.


Debbie
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Re: Julia Renfro's Statement
« Reply #308 on: Today at 09:50:49 AM »

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Let me just clarify a point.... I would never post anything here if I did not completely trust the source of the information. I have great faith in things I post. I would never intentionally hurt the integrity of this forum or my own integrity by posting something here that I did not believe was accurate.

I would also like to ask that we spend less time talking about the Refugees, I do not care to give them a voice here, we can always go there to read their thoughts.

Can someone save a screen shot of the page? it might come in handy one day.

[pathenry]

She may be covering her butt stating she believes it to be true, but there is still a question as to whether posting it she showed reckless disregard as to whether it was true, or not.

Lil' Debbie needs to state exactly who sent her the statement and what she did, if anything, to confirm that is was authenticate.

Debbie needs to put up the Dutch version of the Police Report.

For the record -- The Fox producer told Julia that Jug told him that "the family" thinks both Julia and Charles are being paid by the government to get them off the island -- sounds like Jug was trying to discredit what Julia & Charles told Greta.

To this day, I wonder why it was so important for "The Family" to discredit anyone and everyone who didn't repeat their lies?

So do I, Glenda, So do I.
It has become blatantly obvious the past couple of months with the Pretzer shows. That statement has nothing to do with what happened the night/morning of May 30, 2005. It is just to discredit Julia. Unbelievable..a
new low.

[Heli]

Well it looks like Debbie at BFN is formally saying this statement is true. When it is proven to be a fake, Julia needs to take the kid gloves off and go after these people. Joe or rosemarie can get the job done for her. This has gone on long enough.


Debbie
Administrator
Hero Member

Posts: 9516



Re: Julia Renfro's Statement
« Reply #308 on: Today at 09:50:49 AM »

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Let me just clarify a point.... I would never post anything here if I did not completely trust the source of the information. I have great faith in things I post. I would never intentionally hurt the integrity of this forum or my own integrity by posting something here that I did not believe was accurate.

I would also like to ask that we spend less time talking about the Refugees, I do not care to give them a voice here, we can always go there to read their thoughts.

Can someone save a screen shot of the page? it might come in handy one day.

I've captured a screenshot, I'm sure others will as well.

[sensible]

She may be covering her butt stating she believes it to be true, but there is still a question as to whether posting it she showed reckless disregard as to whether it was true, or not.

Lil' Debbie needs to state exactly who sent her the statement and what she did, if anything, to confirm that is was authenticate.

But, Pat, she's a "journalist" and won't reveal a source!

[ViVi]

Is there a chance we can get our hands on the Dutch version of this report?



Yes Talitha, in a way it is funny, but also sad that some people actually believe this......

I want to clarify that I did not believe that Aruban police had practice of paying for statements. But I didnt know for sure--and that is the only reason I allowed for the possiblity--I didnt want to say it looked like Julia was doing something improper if it is normal procedure to pay a stipend for a police statement.