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Postby billybob » Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:12 pm

Lee1949 wrote:Wrong. Palin's bulls-eye target of Giffords was for defeating her in the Nov. elections, not eliminating her from life. And I am not lamely trying to spin it. You're the one trying to connect the two.


anybody that thinks other than what you are saying is crazy or spinning BS!
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Postby Mimiof5 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:17 pm

Lee1949 wrote:Wrong. Palin's bulls-eye target of Giffords was for defeating her in the Nov. elections, not eliminating her from life. And I am not lamely trying to spin it. You're the one trying to connect the two.


Actually, one of the shooting victims connects the two. He hasn't accepted your lame spin and is now sitting in jail.
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Postby ThePhoenix » Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:21 pm

Mimiof5 wrote:
Actually, one of the shooting victims connects the two. He hasn't accepted your lame spin and is now sitting in jail.


Say what? Who's that? That's news to me.
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Postby Lee1949 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:22 pm

Mimiof5 wrote:
Actually, one of the shooting victims connects the two. He hasn't accepted your lame spin and is now sitting in jail.

He has obviously been listening to MSNBC, like you, and can't accept the fact that most people don't believe this had anything to do with politics other than the shooter hated government and Giffords represented government.
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Postby gwen » Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:22 pm

Read up...just posted..
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Postby apodixis » Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:26 pm

gwen wrote:AZ Shooting Victim Arrested For ‘Death Threat’ To Tea Party Leader During ABC News Townhall

Merely a week after a crazed gunman shot Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in the head and left several others dead and wounded at a local political event, a Tea Party spokesman in the same area received a public death threat at a town hall meeting– from one of Jared Loughner’s victims.

Local station KGUN is reporting that Eric Fuller a 63-year-old military veteran who was shot in the back last Saturday while attending Rep. Giffords’ “Congress on Your Corner” event, became enraged by the statements of some of the participants at the town hall events and threatened the life of Tea Party spokesman Trent Humphries....

http://www.mediaite.com/online/az-shoot ... -townhall/


“Arizona Shooting Victim Criticizes Palin, Beck and Fox News”

Excerpts:

“Asked if he thought Palin or other media commentators had an impact on the shooting, he said:”….

"If you are going to scream hatred and preach hatred, you're going to sow it after a while if you've got a soap box like they've got. We've got a surplus of demented dingbats, wackos."…

“Fuller went on to criticize national media outlets that allow violent rhetoric on the air: "I would put Sarah Palin in first place there. I think, really, she should be incarcerated for treason for advocating assassinating public officials. That map I saw that she published on the Internet had crosshairs on it and one of them was meant for Gabrielle Giffords.”

"This woman is a spotless, purest, sweetest lamb in the world, gunned down ... The only word I could think of is outraged."

Fuller, who said he suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder, is a disabled U.S. Navy veteran.”

“Fuller said he would likely decline to appear on Fox:….

"I would stand up and just scream 'whores' at them, with my leg bleeding, and shock and with the congress lady laying on the pavement after having a slug pass through her head."

Read more:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201101140044
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Postby Eliza » Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:12 pm

Good that the George Soros sponsored "websites" and all the progressive Soros minions, are keeping America updated. :lol:
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Postby gwen » Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:15 pm

Shooting rampage victim arrested at ABC-TV town hall meeting

TUCSON (KGUN9-TV) - Two things are clear from Saturday's ABC News town hall meeting in Tucson. One: Tucsonans are eager to move forward and recover from last week's horrible shooting rampage. And two: that process is going to be slow and painful.

ABC News Anchor Christiane Amanpour hosted a remarkable gathering of victims, heroes, witnesses and first responders. It was the first time most of them had been together since Jared Lee Loughner opened fire in a Safeway parking lot, killing 6, and wounding or injuring 14 others -- a rampage that happened one week earlier almost to the hour.

On the platform with Amanpour were Col. Bill Badger, who helped tackle gunman Jared Lee Loughner; Daniel Hernandez, who ran to help wounded Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords while most people were ducking for cover, Patricia Maisch, who grabbed a magazine away from Loughner; Bill Hileman, whose wife, Susan, is still recovering from gunshot wounds.

On the front row was Kenneth Dorushka, who was shot shielding his wife from Loughner's gunfire; and J. Eric Fuller, who was shot in the knee.

Among the dignitaries and community leaders present: Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida, who is a close personal friend of Giffords and who also sat on the platform with Amanpour; Tucson mayor Bob Walkup; Tucson Congressman Raúl Grijalva; former Tucson Congressman Jim Kolbe; and Father Richard Troutman of St. Odilia's Catholic Church, where the town hall took place.

Also on the platform: Pima County Sheriff's Bureau Chief Richard Kastigar, who gave an update on the investigation.

Most of the event was devoted to a recounting of what had happened that terrible morning. Amanpour gently led the witnesses and survivors through the events, getting them to tell what they saw and experienced, and to talk about how they are coping.

Probably the most emotional moment came when Bill Hileman talked about his wife Susan's dual struggle: physical and emotional. The youngest victim who died in the shooting, 9 year old Christina Taylor Green, was there because she wanted to meet Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords. A neighbor took her to the "Congress On Your Corner" event. Susan Hileman was that neighbor. Bill Hileman said that his wife now struggles with the fact that she took a neighbor's child to the event, but was not able to bring her home again.

The theme of the event was "An American Conversation Continued" -- the idea being to continue the conversation that a madman's brutal rampage had interrupted. So it was inevitable that the conversation would eventually turn to politics. It did, toward the end, with Amanpour leading a discussion on a very touchy but obvious topic: gun control.

That's where the atmosphere turned tense. When Tucson Tea Party founder Trent Humphries rose to suggest that any conversation about gun control should be put off until after the funerals for all the victims, witnesses say Fuller became agitated. Two told KGUN9 News that Fuller finally rose, took a picture of Humphries, and said, "You're dead."

When State Rep. Terri Proud (R-Tucson) rose to explain and clarify current and proposed gun legislation in the state, several people groaned or booed her. One of those booing, according to several witnesses, was Fuller. Witnesses sitting near Fuller told KGUN9 News that Fuller was making them feel very uncomfortable.

The event wrapped up a short time later. Deputies then escorted Fuller from the room. As he was being led off, Fuller shouted loudly to the room at large. Several witnesses said that what they thought they heard him shout was, "You're all whores!"

A Pima County Sheriff's spokesman told KGUN9 News that they charged Fuller with one count of threats and intimidation, and said they plan to charge him with at least one count of disorderly conduct. Humphries told KGUN9 News that he does plan to press those charges.

The irony could not be more pointed, or painful. One of the issues discussed in the town hall meeting was the question of why no police or mental health professionals had ever intervened with Jared Lee Loughner, despite his increasingly bizarre behavior that had included disruptive outbursts.

Afterwards, several participants told KGUN9 News that they hoped the outburst would not overshadow what they saw as the true message of the meeting: that Tucson is filled with good and decent people, and the community will get through this.

ABC will broadcast the town hall meeting, entitled "After the Tragedy: An American Conversation Continued," Sunday. The network has given KGUN9-TV permission to air the broadcast twice. It can be seen at its regular time period of 7:00 AM Sunday (January 16) and also at 3:00 PM the same day.

http://www.kgun9.com/Global/story.asp?S=13849741
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Postby gwen » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:13 pm

Interesting...the video of Palin shooting the caribou and the remarks have just vanished from the board. :shock:
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Postby Mimiof5 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:16 pm

gwen wrote:Interesting...the video of Palin shooting the caribou and the remarks have just vanished from the board. :shock:


moved to tv show category.
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Postby gwen » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:18 pm

Mimiof5 wrote:
moved to tv show category.


Thanks...They were relative to the topic here, but whatever..
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Postby Eliza » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:20 pm

gwen wrote:Interesting...the video of Palin shooting the caribou and the remarks have just vanished from the board. :shock:


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Postby gwen » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:20 pm

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Postby gwen » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:27 pm

Tucson shooting victim detained at taping of TV special
'You're dead,' man allegedly yells while photographing Tea Party spokesman


TUCSON, Ariz. — A victim from the Tucson mass shooting was taken into custody Saturday after allegedly threatening a Tea Party spokesman during the taping of an ABC-TV town hall event hosted by Christianne Amanpour.

The Pima County Sheriff's Office said J. Eric Fuller, 63, was involuntarily committed to an undisclosed medical facility, NBC News reported.

He faces charges of threats and intimidation and disorderly conduct, according to Tucson TV station KGUN.

The gathering for "After the Tragedy: An American Conversation Continued," to be shown on "This Week" Sunday, included witnesses, first responders and victims of the Jan. 8 mass shooting that killed six and wounded 13 others, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz.

Local officials and others also packed St. Odilia's Catholic Church in northwest Tucson, where the show was taped.

KGUN reported that Fuller took exception to comments by Republican state Rep. Terri Proud and Tucson Tea Party spokesman Trent Humphries.

Fuller reportedly took a picture of Humphries and said, “You’re dead.”

Some media reports said Fuller kept booing and making other remarks before deputies escorted him from the church.

Also at the church were Tucson Mayor Bob Walkup, Rep. Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz., and former Rep. Jim Kolbe.

If Humphries decides not to press charges, the charges will be dropped, Pima Deputy Jason Ogan told Phoenix station KNXV.

Fuller reportedly felt a bullet hit his knee Jan. 8, but didn't know he had also been struck in the back. The Arizona Daily Star reported, Fuller, a naval air veteran, drove himself to Northwest Hospital after being shot. He was later taken to University Medical Center where he was released two days later.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41094534/ns ... nd_courts/
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Postby gwen » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:29 pm

Shooting victim arrested at town hall in Tucson

TUCSON, AZ - A victim from a mass shooting last weekend in Tucson was arrested Saturday during a town hall event.

According to Deputy Jason Ogan with the Pima County Sheriff’s Department, shooting victim 63-year-old James Fuller was arrested for one count of “threats and intimidation” for threats made against Trent Humphries of the Tucson Tea Party.

During the final minutes of the town hall, Fuller reportedly took a picture of Humphries and said “You’re dead” when Humphries was expressing his opinion.

Fuller then kept booing and making other remarks, Ogan said.

He was reportedly taken into custody without incident.

Ogan said the charge is a misdemeanor, and Fuller may be cited and released.

If Humphries decides not to press charges, the charges will be dropped, Ogan said.

A panel of emergency responders, heroes, and victims of the shooting last Saturday that killed six people and injured 13 others was in attendance at the town hall event.

Fuller said on CBS's "The Early Show" that he felt the bullet that hit his knee last Saturday but didn't know he had also been struck in the back.

He said he didn't know how to react and felt the victims "were in for more."

Fuller said he is lucky and feels fine physically, but is outraged that Giffords was attacked.

According to the Arizona Daily Star, Fuller, a naval air veteran, drove himself to Northwest Hospital after being shot. He was later taken to University Medical Center where he was released two days later.

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_ce ... -in-tucson
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Postby Mimiof5 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:34 pm

gwen wrote: Tucson shooting victim detained at taping of TV special
'You're dead,' man allegedly yells while photographing Tea Party spokesman


TUCSON, Ariz. — A victim from the Tucson mass shooting was taken into custody Saturday after allegedly threatening a Tea Party spokesman during the taping of an ABC-TV town hall event hosted by Christianne Amanpour.

The Pima County Sheriff's Office said J. Eric Fuller, 63, was involuntarily committed to an undisclosed medical facility, NBC News reported.

He faces charges of threats and intimidation and disorderly conduct, according to Tucson TV station KGUN.

The gathering for "After the Tragedy: An American Conversation Continued," to be shown on "This Week" Sunday, included witnesses, first responders and victims of the Jan. 8 mass shooting that killed six and wounded 13 others, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz.

Local officials and others also packed St. Odilia's Catholic Church in northwest Tucson, where the show was taped.

KGUN reported that Fuller took exception to comments by Republican state Rep. Terri Proud and Tucson Tea Party spokesman Trent Humphries.

Fuller reportedly took a picture of Humphries and said, “You’re dead.”

Some media reports said Fuller kept booing and making other remarks before deputies escorted him from the church.

Also at the church were Tucson Mayor Bob Walkup, Rep. Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz., and former Rep. Jim Kolbe.

If Humphries decides not to press charges, the charges will be dropped, Pima Deputy Jason Ogan told Phoenix station KNXV.

Fuller reportedly felt a bullet hit his knee Jan. 8, but didn't know he had also been struck in the back. The Arizona Daily Star reported, Fuller, a naval air veteran, drove himself to Northwest Hospital after being shot. He was later taken to University Medical Center where he was released two days later.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41094534/ns ... nd_courts/


Let's see if the Tea Party plays victim and presses charges.

The Sheriff's office should be commended for handling it this way.
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Postby gwen » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:39 pm

Mimiof5 wrote:
Let's see if the Tea Party plays victim and presses charges.

The Sheriff's office should be commended for handling it this way.


Yep, will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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Postby Eliza » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:58 pm

One would think the Feds would pick up the charges. :wink:
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Postby Mimiof5 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:01 pm

Eliza wrote:One would think the Feds would pick up the charges. :wink:


Tell One the Feds don't have jurisdiction.
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Postby Eliza » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:08 pm

Perhaps the feds would have picked up the charges had the civil rights of "guest workers" been violated in Arizona.

No secret who butters the local authorities bread.

Surely the US Attorney General will investigate these threats considering the state of the union over the previous two years. The natives are restless and the Soros sites, and organized liberal rabble rousers, are stirring the pot.
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Postby Mimiof5 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:11 pm

Eliza wrote:Perhaps the feds would have picked up the charges had the civil rights of "guest workers" been violated in Arizona.

No secret who butters the local authorities bread.

Surely the US Attorney General will investigate these threats considering the state of the union over the previous two years. The natives are restless and the Soros sites, and organized liberal rabble rousers, are stirring the pot.


The news article only mentions the Sheriff's office.
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Postby Eliza » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:19 pm

Perhaps if it would have been a "Facebook threat?" :shock:

http://news.google.com/news/search?pz=1 ... ok+threats
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Postby gwen » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:21 pm

Eliza wrote:Perhaps the feds would have picked up the charges had the civil rights of "guest workers" been violated in Arizona.

No secret who butters the local authorities bread.

Surely the US Attorney General will investigate these threats considering the state of the union over the previous two years. The natives are restless and the Soros sites, and organized liberal rabble rousers, are stirring the pot.


I have posted from Arizona news....Surely you don't think all sites are Soros sites, except FOX news. :roll:
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Postby Mimiof5 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:23 pm

Eliza wrote:Perhaps if it would have been a "Facebook threat?" :shock:

http://news.google.com/news/search?pz=1 ... ok+threats


Only user of Facebook mentioned in this case is Palin. No doubt she'll continue to play the victim.
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Postby Mimiof5 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:26 pm

gwen wrote:
I have posted from Arizona news....Surely you don't think all sites are Soros sites, except FOX news. :roll:


"Don't think" is the key.

So goes the world according to Palin/Beck.
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