Is Natalee Holloway buried in a tomb?

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Looks like that one has been in the ground awhile....about 6 yrs. maybe? Do I see blond hair in there?

Anyone go missing lately?

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Betico Croes grave vandalized last night.

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu- ... es-no-por- sosega-na-pas.htm betico croes

not can sosega at peace sunday, 17 april 2011 11:02

across from socialnan owing to destrui the kelder of betico croes saturday manece diadomingo. fielnan cu owing to visit the cemetery diadomingo morning owing to come across the situation y owing to raport'e at police at morning owing to come across the situation y owing to raport'e at police at once. owing to break the marble fast the kelder cu the photograph y once. name of defunto betico croes, open the kelder y even owing to saca his box of dead afo. of the form here obviamente do not permiti the leader politico of sosega at peace. police have cemetery of santa cruz close for investigacion. come across.

That's just what they want people to think - it must be some kind of conspiracy.

[AlwaysL8]

That's just what they want people to think - it must be some kind of conspiracy.

EYE think you must be correct.

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EYE think you must be correct.

It's strange that someone would descrate a grave the weekend the Enquirer story is released. Apparently a high -profile one at that.

That looks like Rudy Croes in the one photo (living guy) - he was the one that said -

Aruba’s Justice Minister Rudy Croes confirmed on Thursday that Van der Straten delayed the start of investigations in order to protect his friend, Paulus van der Sloot, the father of Joran who is the main suspect in the case. Paulus was working for the Justice Ministry at the time.
The Aruban Justice Minister, Rudy Croes was actually going to wait until he retired before he was going to say anything regarding the outright mishandling and miscarriage of justice provided for Natalee Holloway and her family. Wouldn’t your brother Betico Croes be proud? Let us completely understand this. The Justice Minister of Aruba, Rudy Croes, had information for over 3 – 1/2 years that there was corruption in the investigation of Natalee Holloway and that Jan van der Straten was to blame. All this time he had knowledge of the cover up and corruption, yet he was going to wait until he retired to say anything? This from the Justice Minister of Aruba.

“I actually wanted to wait till my retirement next year to bring this into the open”, continues the minister. “But the time has come to tell the truth. When the case came to light, I heard Van der Straten say literally: ‘I can’t let this happen to my friend Paul’. And then during the first ten days, there were heavy telephone traffic between him and Paul van der Sloot.”

According to Croes, Van der Straten has perhaps consciously deployed the so-called flexiteam after the disappearance of Natalee. “He said in May 2005: ‘I can solve this with my flexiteam’. As everybody knows, the flexiteam was a team that was put into action when the regular police team was over-occupied; for example during carnival.
A detective could be included in the team, but it was no police-team that was capable of doing an investigation. Why didn’t he call in the taya-team (police officers with a lot of expertise and experience

http://tinyurl.com/3vk5upw

Maybe the powers that be were sending a message ?

[AlwaysL8]

Maybe the powers that be were sending a message ?

Wanna wager a bet on who will be 1st to jump in and say what a **** Rudy Croes is?

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Wanna wager a bet on who will be 1st to jump in and say what a **** Rudy Croes is?

He's Persona non grata

[Eliza]

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/30404-betico-croes-no-por-sosega-na-pas.html

restonan deadly of betico croes owing to wordo confisca sunday,

17 april 2011 12:49

after cu autoridadnan owing to present at cemetery of santa cruz for he regrettable contra the cemetery of betico croes fiscal owing to dicidi o regrettable contra the cemetery of betico croes fiscal owing to dicidi o take the restonan deadly in beslag. this is for can make one investigacion deep on the restonan deadly mirando cu have all indica do not conoci what the attempt behind the acto here

Betico Croes, fascinating man with a lot of vision for his island.

That fateful night of his accident, he lost control of his car on the main road in Sta. Cruz and crashed into a lightpole (not a wall), twisting his car around it. That road that starts in Oranjestad (mainstreet) and go up to Sta. Cruz is now called Caya Libertador Betico Croes.

This was around 10.00 p.m.

He was taken to the hospital and later taken to Miami.

After a few months he was sent to The Netherlands, where 11 months after the accident passed away.

His loss in the election just before the Status Aparte on January 1, 1986 was unexpected. He was to be elected the First Prime Minister ever of the new Land of Aruba. But the governor that time, did not give him the chance to form the new government, but instead gave the instruction to the AVP who also got the same amount of seats of MEP, but with the help of 3 smaller political parties that got one seat each, they barely formed a government of 13 seatsof the 21 available seats, which did not make it to the third year.

The results of the election that year was: MEP 8 seats, AVP 7 seats, PPA 2 seats, ADN 2 seats and PDA 2 seats.

MEP lost 5 seats from last election it had 13 seats.

Lago Oil company (the refinery) was closed in 1984 by their owners in Venezuela and the opposition used this event against Betico Croes. In 1985 hundreds of Arubans had to leave the island to work in the Netherlands. He knew he was going to lose some support in the election but did not expect the decision of the governor that time to give the other party a chance, that is why he was not at the official ceremony that night for the Status Aparte but was rather preparing to go the Caiquetio Club in Paradera, where there was a Dande Fastival. He never make it though.

After his death in Holland, he was given a ceremony in a church where thousands of Dutch, Antilleans, other nation dignitaries and the newly born Arubans paid their respects. He was then flown to Aruba, where he was not given a State Funeral by the new government, but rather the people of Aruba gave him the most deserved and best attended funeral ever. Thousand ligned the streets to give him goodbye and thanks the people of Aruba never had the chance to give him for their new found Dignitaries, Prime ministers and presidents of other countries all came to give him the last respect on the open plaza, called Plaza Libertad after the Status Aparte. Years later after the goverment fell, the plaza has been renamed to Plaza Libertador Betico Croes, and has now his statue.

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In his rhetoric speeches, Croes stated that he would not be afraid of martyrdom to achieve the 'causa sagrado' (holy goal) of the Aruban people. Betico himself has been jailed when a weapon was found in his car; a conspiracy, he said. He also was shot at by a police man during an election rally.

On December 31, 1985, at the eve of the day 'his' Status Aparte took effect, Betico Croes got into a traffic accident in which he was seriously wounded. He got into a coma and would never regain consciousness. Almost eleven months later, on November 26, 1986, he passed away.

Betico Croes is considered as the Aruban Father of his country and is being referred to by his supporters as 'Libertador di Aruba '(Liberator of Aruba).

Welcome to Conspiracy Island


http://www.historiadiaruba.aw/index.php ... 38&lang=en

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Arubans arrive for mass at the Santa Ana Roman Catholic Church in Noord, Aruba.
Alabama high school graduate Natalee Holloway disappeared while on a graduation trip to this Dutch Caribbean island on May 30.


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Colorful Graveyard Santa Ana Church Aruba
Impressive and colorful display on an Aruban graveyard located next to the Santa Ana Church, Noord, Aruba.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jurgenlison/4929194884/

[K_Meine]

Looks like you die young in Aruba

I was thinking the same thing. Doesn't sound like one happy island to me.

[K_Meine]

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"Joran told a fellow prisoner..........."

I wonder if Joran ever though that lying to another prisoner could be problematic. Particularly the current thugs he's is incarcerated with. He's not messing with housewives from Bama anymore.

[Eliza]

Looks like you die young in Aruba

Not as young as in many "inner cities" in the USA.

[Eliza]

No comment.

[bbeba103]

' Joran Natalees hid body in someone else's coffin '

Joran van der Sloot. © AP"

The body of Natalee Holloway is located in an Aruban tomb. Joran van der Sloot killed the U.S. after she refused to have sex with him. He buried her first in a shallow grave in the sand, followed by a funeral worker and bribing her body in a tomb in a different body dumped. "

This scenario outlines the National Enquirer, based on a conversation with an informant in the Peruvian Castro prison in Lima.

Confession

The informant would have forced the confession of Joran in jail, where he sits on suspicion of murder Stephany Flores Van der Sloot would have sent e-mail to a friend in which he talks about that fatefu night. He was furious that he refused to have sex with Natalee. He ignored her and began touching her, then they blow.

Freak

"He lost all control and strangled her. He came back to his senses when he discovered that she was half dead. At that time he buried her body in a shallow grave in the sand, where she died of her injuries.

Only later, he moved her body to the cemetery where he was bribing an employee. This enabled him to the corpse in a coffin of one another lay whose funeral would take place soon. He boasted that nobody, not even the cemetery, something would ever suspect. "

Help from father According to the Enquirer would also Van der Sloot admitted that his, now deceased father would have used his connections to Natalee's body to hide. If the informant's story is true, would the body of Natalee in Aruba next to another body in a coffin. tomb was located above the ground.

It is yet another confession that Joran would have done about his involvement in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Aruban police and Beth Twitty, Natalee's mother, still hope that the case ever being solved.

Murder in Peru Joran is in prison in Lima on suspicion of murder Stephany Flores. If the meeting takes place in which prosecutors will try to prove guilt Joran is still not known.

(Willeke Tersteeg) 18/04/1911 11:39

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1013/Buitenland/ ... kist.dhtml

Google translation...

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Well if they know the tomb is above the ground
It also makes things a bit easier, plus the number
Of deceased around the time frame Natalee goes missing isn't that many.

Yet it is still unknown if Hootie I mean Beth lol
Will go to Aruba and look into these latest story.

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Vidasigue wrote:




Looks like you die young in Aruba






Good point. They kill their own kind there on a daily basis.

Almost every day now
Seems its become a trend.

Everyday you hear how someone has been murdered/missing in the United States
That's all you hear and read in the news.

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Natalee Holloway: Did Joran Van Der Sloot Bury Her Alive?


Natalee Holloway might have been buried alive in a shallow grave by Joran Van Der Sloot. The 23-year-old Dutchman reportedly confessed to a prison snitch and gave up new details surrounding her death. The question is can you trust anything that Joran says is true?

Joran Van Der Sloot is once again making a confession to killing Natalee Holloway, the beautiful 18-year-old Alabama teen who disappeared while on vacation with her graduating class in Aruba.

According to the reports out by the National Enquirer, Sloot confessed to a Peruvian prison informant that he killed Natalee accidentally after she repeatedly rejected his sexual advances.

The informant claims that Joran confessed to burying Natalee's body in a shallow grave before he put it inside a coffin that was awaiting burial for another body. Somewhere out there Natalee may be sharing a coffin with an unknown person. If this is true, it'd seem that her remains may never be found, which was probably the whole idea behind him placing her inside the coffin in the first place.

An investigative 'insider' claims that "Joran revealed to the prison snitch that in emails he told a buddy he became enraged when Natalee refused to have sex with him, and when he ignored her protests and started groping her, she slapped him."

They went on to say that this rejection made Joran angry and he lost control of himself as a result. He both beat and strangled her and only realized what it was that he had done when she was lying there nearly dead.

"At that point he buried her body in a shallow grave in the sand where she eventually died from her injuries."

That last line indicates that Natalee may have very well been buried alive barely clinging to life. If that's even remotely true, then Sloot is a much bigger monster than anyone ever imagined he could be.

Joran bragged that he paid off a funeral home worker to get her body inside another man's coffin for burial. He also revealed that the body is in an above the ground tomb and that his father who was an Aruban attorney did, indeed aid him in concealing the body, as so many had suspected.

Then again, that's only if you can believe the story. This wouldn't be the first time he had confessed to killing her, and it's probably not the last one either. Sloot drifts between telling stories of his innocence and stories of his guilt, depending on his mood, the weather, or any number of unknown variables. No one can tell what is or isn't true when someone is as big of a pathological liar as he is.

http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.acti ... 4979229142

106,523 - 2009 Aruba population
Source: World Bank, World Development Indicators

307,006,550 - 2009 USA population
Source: U.S. Census Bureau, Population Division

[AlwaysL8]

Natalee Holloway: Did Joran Van Der Sloot Bury Her Alive?


Natalee Holloway might have been buried alive in a shallow grave by Joran Van Der Sloot. The 23-year-old Dutchman reportedly confessed to a prison snitch and gave up new details surrounding her death. The question is can you trust anything that Joran says is true?

Joran Van Der Sloot is once again making a confession to killing Natalee Holloway, the beautiful 18-year-old Alabama teen who disappeared while on vacation with her graduating class in Aruba.

According to the reports out by the National Enquirer, Sloot confessed to a Peruvian prison informant that he killed Natalee accidentally after she repeatedly rejected his sexual advances.

The informant claims that Joran confessed to burying Natalee's body in a shallow grave before he put it inside a coffin that was awaiting burial for another body. Somewhere out there Natalee may be sharing a coffin with an unknown person. If this is true, it'd seem that her remains may never be found, which was probably the whole idea behind him placing her inside the coffin in the first place.

An investigative 'insider' claims that "Joran revealed to the prison snitch that in emails he told a buddy he became enraged when Natalee refused to have sex with him, and when he ignored her protests and started groping her, she slapped him."

They went on to say that this rejection made Joran angry and he lost control of himself as a result. He both beat and strangled her and only realized what it was that he had done when she was lying there nearly dead.

"At that point he buried her body in a shallow grave in the sand where she eventually died from her injuries."

That last line indicates that Natalee may have very well been buried alive barely clinging to life. If that's even remotely true, then Sloot is a much bigger monster than anyone ever imagined he could be.

Joran bragged that he paid off a funeral home worker to get her body inside another man's coffin for burial. He also revealed that the body is in an above the ground tomb and that his father who was an Aruban attorney did, indeed aid him in concealing the body, as so many had suspected.

Then again, that's only if you can believe the story. This wouldn't be the first time he had confessed to killing her, and it's probably not the last one either. Sloot drifts between telling stories of his innocence and stories of his guilt, depending on his mood, the weather, or any number of unknown variables. No one can tell what is or isn't true when someone is as big of a pathological liar as he is.

http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.acti ... 4979229142

106,523 - 2009 Aruba population
Source: World Bank, World Development Indicators

307,006,550 - 2009 USA population
Source: U.S. Census Bureau, Population Division

Sounds exactly like what he did to Stephany.

joran's MO, get mad at a girl, beat her to death.

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Sounds exactly like what he did to Stephany.

joran's MO, get mad at a girl, beat her to death.

He snaps. It's a "sickness".

Wonder what his dog did wrong to piss him off.

[K_Meine]

Vidasigue wrote:




Looks like you die young in Aruba





Jump at any chance to blame Aruba 'eh? I knew someone would spin my comment but didn't think it would be you. I don't believe these deaths are in any way a negative statement about Aruba. None of them were by violent means that we are aware of. I was just surprised that there was no one over 35 in that group.

On the contrary I've been and happen to like the country very much. I can see where one could tie that together but I can assure you that wasn't the intent. It is sad that the ages are so young in years though regardless of locale.

[K_Meine]

He snaps. It's a "sickness".

Wonder what his dog did wrong to piss him off.

It didn't like peanut butter.

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It didn't like peanut butter.

[AlwaysL8]

It didn't like peanut butter.

or maybe it pissed on his K-Swiss.

[iquitos]

joran had natalee buried in betico croes's crypt and now somebody has gone in and taken her body? was it anita?