TRIAL ~ 06/09 Day #14

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TRIAL ~ 06/09 Day #14

Postby Betty Boop » Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:44 am

It's an emotionally tough day today. Showing Casey using one kleenex to cry for a half an hour when the photos are shown of the body & site where the body was dumped. Then Baez half hugged Casey for the camera's before leaving for the lunch break.

I feel emotionally drained from listening to the broken link I could get over my internet. It was real jumpy today, probably too many trying to watch it.
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Postby bbeba103 » Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:37 pm

Jurors See Photos of Caylee’s Skull

Jurors were shown graphic photos of Caylee Anthony’s skull and the area surrounding her remains Thursday morning.

Crime scene investigators testified about photographs they took of the area off Suburban Drive where the body was found, including close-ups of the duct tape adhered to her skull.

Casey Anthony turned away and tried not to look as Orange County Sheriff’s Office crime scene investigator Jennifer Welch went through the photos of Caylee’s remains taken on December 11, 2008, occasionally wiping her eyes with a tissue, Nancy Grace producer in the courtroom Natisha Lance observed.

One photo showed the chief medical examiner bent over, holding the skull with the duct tape and hair present.

Defense attorney Jose Baez asked Welch about steps a person might take to stage a crime scene or conceal evidence.

She acknowledged that it is important to ensure that the scene is preserved and not tampered with.

Baez pointed out that the medical examiner’s investigator was not wearing any protective footwear in one photo and that it was possible they were stepping on potential pieces of evidence.

Steve Hanson, the chief investigator for the Orange County Medical Examiner’s Office, began to testify before the lunch break, identifying more photos taken at the scene. Earlier, jurors heard the 911 call made after Orange County meter reader Roy Kronk discovered Caylee Anthony’s remains in a wooded area on December 11, 2008.

In it, a utilities worker told the dispatcher that Kronk and a co-worker had found “a human skull.”

The deputy who responded to that call then testified that Kronk led him into the woods, he showed him where the skull was and they both left the area right away without touching it. On cross,

Deputy Edward Turso said that he told Kronk to return to his car and write his statement but gave him no other instructions. Jurors also learned Thursday that Casey Anthony told her brother Lee that Caylee’s nanny held her down in an Orlando park and took her child from her in June 2008.

Lee Anthony, who testified earlier in the trial, returned to the witness stand Thursday to reveal details of private conversations he had with Casey after she was released from jail on bond in August 2008.

According to Lee, she claimed that she met up with Zanny, Caylee’s nanny, and Zanny’s sister in Jay Blanchard Park on June 16, 2008. During that meeting, “Zanny held Casey down and told her that she was taking Caylee from her,” Lee testified.

He said Casey told him Zanny took Caylee because “in Zanny’s opinion, Casey was not being a good mother” so she was doing this “to teach her a lesson.”

This all would have happened on the same day that the defense now claims Caylee drowned in the family’s swimming pool.

Lee stated that Casey described the incident as “surreal” but claimed she was scared and did not know what to do after it happened.

She also was supposedly receiving instructions from Zanny through her own MySpace page.

The password was “timer55,” which Lee said Casey told him she did not create but she believed it referred to the 55 days between June 16 and Caylee’s birthday on August 9. “Her hope,” according to Lee, was “that she was going to get her back on that date.”

Defense attorney Jose Baez questioned Lee Anthony about this story with a somewhat dismissive tone, describing it as another story about Casey’s “imaginary” nanny.

He asked whether Casey claimed any of the “imaginary MySpace posts to find this imaginary Zanny” ever actually led her to Caylee, and Lee said they did not.

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Postby bbeba103 » Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:54 pm

Casey Anthony trial: Jury sees graphic pictures of Caylee's skull, debris at crime scene

Viewers can't see the photos on television, but those in the courtroom can.

Before calling crime scene investigator Jennifer Welch to the stand, Orange-Osceola Chief Judge Belvin Perry warned the jury that it would see graphic pictures this morning.

He also told observers in the courtroom that if they believed they couldn't handle seeing photographs of Caylee Anthony's remains, they should leave the courtroom rather than disrupt the proceedings.

"If you cannot control your emotions, this will be a good time to exit," Perry said.

One close-up picture of Caylee's skull showed strands of damp hair pressed against the skull. The pale, white skull resembles a large shell and appears next to a black plastic bag.

A log rests nearby in the heavily vegetated area off Suburban Drive. Images also showed duct tape stuck to hair matted down against the skull.

Another photo showed a medical examiner's official lifting the skull from the scene. Casey Anthony cried throughout the presentation.

At times she looked away from the screens in front of her, dabbing her face with a tissue.

Her attorney Dorothy Sims rubbed her back and consoled her. Jurors have not showed much emotion during the presentation.

Perry banned the media from showing the pictures on live streams until they are blurred or altered to partially obscure the sensitive images.

Casey Anthony's parents, George and Cindy Anthony, left the courtroom before they showed the pictures.

Lee Anthony testimony The brother of accused child killer Casey Anthony returned to the stand this morning in the first-degree murder case and said his sister told him the babysitter held her down by the wrists and took Caylee from her.

This is the first time testimony was given as to how the alleged babysitter Zenaida Fernández-González kidnapped Caylee Marie. Lee Anthony said Fernández-González's sister helped hold Casey Anthony down while they took her daughter.

"She told me that she met Zanny who was her nanny as well as Zanny's sister and her children at Jay Blanchard Park which is here in Orlando," Lee Anthony said.

"During that meeting Zanny held Casey down and told her she was taking Caylee from her and she did that with the help of her sister."

His sister told him the women took Caylee because "Casey was not being a good mother to Caylee or wouldn't be a good mother to Caylee. [They took] Caylee from her to teach her a lesson."

Her brother said Casey Anthony felt "surreal" about the alleged kidnapping. "She was scared and she didn't know what to do," Lee Anthony said.

Lee Anthony told defense attorney José Baez that Casey Anthony told him another story about "Zanny the Nanny."

Casey Anthony said the babysitter would contact her through MySpace, control her so she wouldn't call the police and would make her go places.

His sister told him the women took Caylee because "Casey was not being a good mother to Caylee or wouldn't be a good mother to Caylee.

[They took] Caylee from her to teach her a lesson." Her brother said Casey Anthony felt "surreal" about the alleged kidnapping. "She was scared and she didn't know what to do," Lee Anthony said.

Lee Anthony told defense attorney José Baez that Casey Anthony told him another story about "Zanny the Nanny."

Casey Anthony said the babysitter would contact her through MySpace, control her so she wouldn't call the police and would make her go places. "I don't believe she went into detail about where she would go," Lee Anthony said.

He also said that his sister was never successful in finding Caylee and that Fernández-González never materialized Casey Anthony described the babysitter as a 100-pound, Hispanic woman with dark skin. Investigators said that woman does not exist.

Lee is excused. He did not look at his sister when he left the courtroom.

Deputy Turso first at crime scene Deputy Edward Turso of the Orange County Sheriff's Office was the first official to respond to the crime scene off Suburban Drive on Dec. 11, 2008 where meter reader Roy Kronk had discovered the bag of bones containing Caylee's skull. Baez tried to ask Turso about earlier 911 calls made by Kronk, but the state objected and Perry denied him that line of questioning.

Turso told Baez he went 20 feet into the woods from the street to find the remains.

He said Kronk went past the remains, looked over his shoulder and then identified the remains. "All I remember was a wooded area," Turso said. "I focused on the skull and the garbage bag that was next to it."

He was excused. Computer programmer testimony A computer programmer whose software revealed searches for terms like chloroform, inhalation, death, and neck breaking on a computer at Casey Anthony's home was the first witnesses questioned this morning.

John Dennis Bradley, the CEO and founder of SiQuest Corporation, spoke briefly about how pages are refreshed on a computer. He was dismissed after his brief testimony.

On Wednesday, Bradley said someone searched those terms and others on Google and Wikipedia.

It's unclear who at the Anthony family home on Hopespring Drive actually performed the searches on the computer.

Bradley was among several witnesses with knowledge of programming or computer forensics who testified for the state Wednesday.

Orange County Sheriff's Office computer forensic experts Sgt. Kevin Stenger and Det. Sandra Osborne described the forensic searches they performed on two computers, two digital cameras and Casey Anthony's cellphone.

They testified that they never encountered anyone named Zenaida Fernández-González in Casey Anthony's cellphone, Osborne said. However, they uncovered searches for chloroform.

A second dog handler involved in a search of Casey Anthony's backyard also testified about a cadaver dog named Bones who detected possible human remains in the east Orange County property nearly three year ago.

Osceola Sheriff's Sgt. Kristin Brewer and her K-9 partner, Bones, swept Anthony's backyard in July 2008 to look for evidence of a dead body.

Brewer said Bones gave a "trained final alert," indicating possible human remains in the backyard of the home Casey Anthony shared with her parents on July 17, 2008.

Another Orange County K-9 named Gerus also alerted to a spot close by in the backyard.

Casey Anthony, 25, is charged with first-degree murder in the 2008 death of her daughter, Caylee Marie Anthony.

She alleged that Fernández-González had kidnapped Caylee.

Her defense team argues the child died after accidentally drowning in the backyard pool and George Anthony disposed of the body, a claim which he denies.

The state's theory is that Casey Anthony used duct tape to kill her daughter.

Follow the case on Twitter at @OSCaseyAnthony.

Bianca Prieto of the Sentinel staff contributed to this report.

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Postby bbeba103 » Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:06 pm

Brother: Casey Anthony told him nanny took Caylee

06.09.11, 09:57 AM EDT

ORLANDO, Fla. --Casey Anthony's brother says his sister told him a nanny took her daughter in June 2008 because she didn't believe the Orlando woman was being a good mother.

Prosecutors recalled Lee Anthony to the stand Thursday morning as they continued presenting their case against the 25-year-old woman accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee. Defense attorneys have said the child drowned.

Lee Anthony testified his sister provided this version of the toddler's disappearance while she was free on bond in August 2008.

According to his testimony, Casey Anthony told him the nanny, called Zanny, met her in an Orlando park and held her down with the help of her sister.

He testified his sister told him the nanny was controlling her and took the child to "teach her a lesson."

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Postby bbeba103 » Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:12 pm

Trutv insession aired today a total of four pictures of where little caylee was found the pictures of the skull were blurred out but you see the plants around where her remains were discovered.

The black garbage bag what seemed to be a Walt Disney back pack, you see one of the investigator standing above her little tiny skull never pictured it to be so tiny, you see the investigator learning towards the skull wearing blue gloves as he was about to pick up little caylees skull.

The heart breaking picture was seeing little caylee's little short, it was ripped so dirty you couldn't tell the original color.

To sad... :cry: :cry:
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Postby wildroses » Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:26 pm

Unfortunately for Casey, I don't think her performance came anywhere close to her mother's when she was on/leaving the stand.

"Illness" my butt. :twisted:
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Postby Fashionista » Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:46 pm

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Postby bbeba103 » Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:48 pm

Casey Anthony Becomes Ill as Photos of Caylee’s Remains Shown

Judge Belvin Perry announced court was recessing almost two hours early on Thursday after jurors and defendant Casey Anthony saw several very graphic photos of 2-year-old Caylee Anthony’s remains. Once the jury left the courtroom, Perry told members of the media that he had stopped testimony for the day because “Ms. Anthony is ill.”

Anthony seemed uncomfortable throughout the afternoon, at times crying, looking away from the screen and covering her mouth while two employees of the Orange County Medical Examiner’s Office showed numerous images of Caylee’s skull, including some with plants visibly growing through it.

Chief investigator Steve Hanson and chief deputy medical examiner Gary Utz testified in detail about the scene where the remains were discovered in a wooded area on December 11, 2008. Hanson said the skull appeared to be “embedded in the vines.” Utz pointed out the hair still partially covering the eye sockets and the pieces of duct tape attached to the jaw.

Prosecutors had alleged in their opening statement that the duct tape may have been the murder weapon used to suffocate the child. Utz also showed photos of a fabric laundry bag and a torn black garbage bag found near the skull.

During Hanson’s cross examination, defense attorney Cheney Mason noted a machete stuck in the ground in one of the photos of the woods off Suburban Drive where the remains were found by meter reader Roy Kronk. Hanson said he did not know how it got there, but Mason suggested that someone may have been clearing the woods before the medical examiners’ investigators arrived.

Apparently trying to build an argument that the remains scene had been staged or tampered with, Mason asked if anyone had moved the skull before Hanson got there. Hanson said the person who found it may have kicked it, but Perry had that statement stricken from the record and instructed the jury to disregard it. Hanson did acknowledge that, based on its positioning in the photos, the duct tape could possibly have moved when the skull was lifted from the ground.

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Postby Betty Boop » Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:42 pm

wildroses wrote:Unfortunately for Casey, I don't think her performance came anywhere close to her mother's when she was on/leaving the stand.

"Illness" my butt. :twisted:


I wonder how long or how often she can "do" the illness thing? You know I really don't care how sick she is, or how "upset" she pretends to be, just hook up an IV, put her in a wheel chair, and bring her into court.
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Postby Heli » Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:43 pm

Must have been some bad refried beans for Casey at lunch.

Seriously, I'm more inclined to believe that hearing description of the laundry bag, garbage bag, dump site etc. triggered a vivid memory of the nauseating stench of decomposition she experienced for several days when Caylee's body was stashed in her trunk. PTSD.

My father came upon a man trapped in a burning car and smelled the odour of burning human flesh. It was months and even years until he was finally rid of the recurring smell in circumstances that even remotely resembled or reminded him of that event. I believe that's what Casey was experiencing today.

She didn't look particularly "green" to me and after court was adjourned for the day she stood up, and though wracked by weakness, nausea, dizziness or whatever, she did make sure her shirt was nicely tucked back and front as she always does. I don't know .... if you're truly distraught and sick, would you worry about that?
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Postby Heli » Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:47 pm

Betty Boop wrote:
I wonder how long or how often she can "do" the illness thing? You know I really don't care how sick she is, or how "upset" she pretends to be, just hook up an IV, put her in a wheel chair, and bring her into court.


Hahaha Last year I was the reporter on the sentencing of a 42 year old man who had murdered his wife. He was standing in the prisoner's box with an officer guarding him. When the judge handed down the sentence, the defendant crumbled to the floor. The judge asked the officer, "Is he awake?" "Yes", replied the officer. "Get him up, prop him up or whatever it takes and let's continue". This judge had no patience whatsoever for this little worm. OMG, I truly had to pinch myself to keep from laughing.

Your plan sounds good to me.
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Postby Heli » Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:49 pm

What do y'all think of Dr. Kobalinski (a member of the defence team) and all his prevaricating about the Prosecution's case?

I'd like to cuff him one. :D
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Postby Betty Boop » Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:53 pm

Heli wrote:
Hahaha Last year I was the reporter on the sentencing of a 42 year old man who had murdered his wife. He was standing in the prisoner's box with an officer guarding him. When the judge handed down the sentence, the defendant crumbled to the floor. The judge asked the officer, "Is he awake?" "Yes", replied the officer. "Get him up, prop him up or whatever it takes and let's continue". OMG, I truly had to pinch myself to keep from laughing.

Your plan sounds good to me.


I have a funny feeling the judge is bending over back wards for Casey so there is no chance of a mistrial. First Baez was sick during jury picking for an afternoon and now Casey is ill.

I think the judge probably has more leeway to make them stand and listen after they have been declared guilty than before. Now it's all that cloak of innocence that Baez kept speaking about until it made one think of batman.
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Postby Betty Boop » Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:57 pm

Heli wrote:What do y'all think of Dr. Kobalinski (a member of the defence team) and all his prevaricating about the Prosecution's case?

I'd like to cuff him one. :D


Is this our tax dollars paying these people? There was a lady on Dr. Drew last night and that nice looking young lawyer asked her why she was there, were the defense paying her to change the court of public opinion. Dr. Drew asked her the same thing after the other lawyer did. She didn't come up with a good answer.

And then there's the Baden(sp) woman who has been yapping about Baez explaining everything when he puts his case on.

You couldn't pay me enough to allign myself with the defense. It would be like becoming another clown with the circus.
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Postby Eliza » Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:27 pm

Heli wrote:What do y'all think of Dr. Kobalinski (a member of the defence team) and all his prevaricating about the Prosecution's case?

I'd like to cuff him one. :D


Isn't he in a wheel chair? :laffit: :laffit:

You go Heli! Rough him up, that little weasel.

I don't care for him either. I figured Tot Mom would wind up in the hospital just like Michael Jackson and the Geragos stunt.
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Postby CherokeeKid » Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:44 pm

Heli wrote:What do y'all think of Dr. Kobalinski (a member of the defence team) and all his prevaricating about the Prosecution's case?

I'd like to cuff him one. :D


To describe it in one word: AWFUL!

Dr. Kobalinski made some comments after Dr. Vass' testimony.

Dr. Kobalinski asked the interviewer if Dr. Vass had talked about "decomposition" or "human decomposition". That alone was enough for me, that Dr. Kobalinski was not in the court room to actually follow closely the trial, he did not even watch it on TV but makes then some uninformed comments. IMO, he has no credibility.
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Postby Heli » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:08 am

I personally found those photos useless other than to show that roots and vegetation were plentiful. I just don't see the value of publishing them like that. How is a pixelized photo graphic anyway? :?
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Postby Betty Boop » Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:43 am

Heli wrote:I personally found those photos useless other than to show that roots and vegetation were plentiful. I just don't see the value of publishing them like that. How is a pixelized photo graphic anyway? :?


They were published to the courtroom without the pixilation. The judge told the media there was to be no pictures taken in the courtroom of the unpixilated pictures, but the jury and everyone in the courtroom saw the pictures showing Caylee's skull.
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Postby Heli » Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:46 pm

Betty Boop wrote:
They were published to the courtroom without the pixilation. The judge told the media there was to be no pictures taken in the courtroom of the unpixilated pictures, but the jury and everyone in the courtroom saw the pictures showing Caylee's skull.


I understand that. What I was saying is I didn't see the point of showing the pixelized photos to people watching on TV or the internet. It all looked like an abstract painting to me.

I wanted to see the real things.
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Postby RatPatrol » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:22 pm

Heli wrote:I personally found those photos useless other than to show that roots and vegetation were plentiful. I just don't see the value of publishing them like that. How is a pixelized photo graphic anyway? :?


My thoughts exactly and I almost made a post to this effect, albeit in snarkier words, yesterday. I first ran across the photos on an MSM news site. They were under a headline full of adjectives and there were dire warnings given. What a disappointment to find that these evidence photos had been mutilated prior to publication to the point that no evidentiary value remains.

I'm not sure how skeletal remains can be considered too graphic to publish anyway. Of all the conditions a body can be found in, skeletal is probably the least offensive to the senses.

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