And the searches in the filthy crack houses in aruba..
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bbeba103 wrote:<snipped>
"I made a commitment early on --actually it was June 2005 --that I would share the hard lessons that we've learned with others.
So many other people united on our behalf and reached out to us to support us and my search for Natalee," she said.
"I think what I've done over the last six years is to make good on the commitment."
iquitos wrote:graduation trip to aruba which included all the booze you can hold down and she wandered off without any of her friends stopping her (they may have set her up with the guy) then they didn't notice (or care) until just before they left for the airport that she had not come back to the hotel. yawn. then they waited essentially 24 hours before doing anything serious about it (like tell the cops). maybe she should start by doing a serious critique of the first 24 hours. (it was not a taxi and she knows it). she should start out by admitting it is not a good idea to send your underage kids offshore against the father's will to get drunk just cause they finished high school .
iquitos wrote:graduation trip to aruba which included all the booze you can hold down and she wandered off without any of her friends stopping her (they may have set her up with the guy) then they didn't notice (or care) until just before they left for the airport that she had not come back to the hotel. yawn. then they waited essentially 24 hours before doing anything serious about it (like tell the cops). maybe she should start by doing a serious critique of the first 24 hours. (it was not a taxi and she knows it). she should start out by admitting it is not a good idea to send your underage kids offshore against the father's will to get drunk just cause they finished high school .

Very logical and apt counter argument.yankee-in-france wrote:
If teenagers who are innocent of any involvement lie routinely and hinder a police investigation for a missing person, do teenagers not drink routinely .... with or without their parents' permission. Does it follow that if it wasn't an all-inclusive that Natalee would not have drank or any of the others as well. All of the others returned home safely even with their excesses, but then no one else was left with Joran.
I am not sure that she wouldn't admit that allowing Natalee to go to Aruba was not a good idea but hindsight has 20/20 vision. What about all the teens allowed to go way on spring vacation to various vacation spots, do they not drink? Whether Dave approved of the trip or not, Natalee was already of legal age and could do as she wished. It wasn't really Beth's call.

bbeba103 wrote:Medical mystery tour brings Holloway to Okoboji
Saturday, June 11, 2011
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Three local men were inside the car, including Joran Van der Sloot, a Dutch college student. Beth Holloway thinks Van der Sloot slipped too much of the date rape drug into Natalee's drinks. Her mother also thinks 5-foot-5 recent high school graduate may have overdosed on the drug. Natalee's captors panicked and arranged for the body to be disposed of at sea.
Natalee's missed flight on May 30, 2005, triggered a media sensation in the United States an exhaustive search in Aruba. Beth Holloway chased down tips placing Natalee at gas stations and restaurants.
She put up missing persons posters in the city of Oranjestad, where Natalee was last seen.
She told an Okoboji audience gathered Friday that she visited the island's underbelly of filthy crack houses and brothels to find her daughter. "
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http://www.spencerdailyreporter.com/story/1735599.html
iquitos wrote:she could not have gotten to the next corner. her mother told her to ask her dad for the money.
drinking is common but that doesn't make it safe.
drink related is probably a major cause of teen death.
the parents are not off the hook if they go along. many mountain brook parents did not for whatever reason.
it is a lot easier to get drunk on an all you can drink tour than it is in the safety of your own home. the hotel bars don't run out of drinks and may pour high test rotgut to keep costs down.
If she didn't drwon on her own, somebody yet legally unidentified had to do with her disappearance. her parents and her friends contributed by putting her on the x and then turning their backs to her.
two lessons: stay off the x especially if your reflexes are impaired, don't go on the x alone.

iquitos wrote:she could not have gotten to the next corner. her mother told her to ask her dad for the money.
drinking is common but that doesn't make it safe.
drink related is probably a major cause of teen death.
the parents are not off the hook if they go along. many mountain brook parents did not for whatever reason.
it is a lot easier to get drunk on an all you can drink tour than it is in the safety of your own home. the hotel bars don't run out of drinks and may pour high test rotgut to keep costs down.
If she didn't drwon on her own, somebody yet legally unidentified had to do with her disappearance. her parents and her friends contributed by putting her on the x and then turning their backs to her.
two lessons: stay off the x especially if your reflexes are impaired, don't go on the x alone.

iquitos wrote:she was administered a date rape drug?
iquitos wrote:irs suspended her tax exempt status for international safe travels: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/va.pdf
iquitos wrote:she was administered a date rape drug?
CherokeeKid wrote:Proof that she was excessively drinking.
Proof that she was in possession of drugs.
No proof that there was a date rape drug involved.
I found it funny that Beth Twitty would mention the crack houses. IMO, she knew very well about Natalee's troubles, that she needed medical help BEFORE Natalee even met Joran. There is a reason why the family arranged for that Medjet to be on Aruba on Tuesday, May 31, 2005.
Beth Twitty tried hard to keep away from ALE and the public what was going on the entire time of Natalee's vacation, the excess drinking, the drugs, saying, it was "not relevant", she constantly lied and did not hesitate to make false accusations. Everything to avoid that the truth about Natalee's ODing should come out. She is still lying, more than six years later. Shame on her.

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Right On, CK!
Roll Tide Mountain Brook, Alabammy!
resigned wrote:
Probably - so?She was the Secretary of State and so it wasn't like being concerned of an American citizen missing in another country was sooooo out of the ordinary.
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There was that appearance of the Dutch replacement judge's son getting the old soft shoe treatment.
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