NY Police: 'We Could Have a Serial Killer'
2010-12-14
(Dec. 14) -- Authorities fear a serial killer may be operating on New York's Long Island after four bodies were found dumped on a beach.
"I don't think it's a coincidence that four bodies ended up in this area, you know? That's a good direction to go, that they were all dumped here by the same person or persons," Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer told reporters.
Seth Wenig, AP
Authorities search by the side of the road at Cedar Beach, near Babylon, N.Y. on Tuesday. Police looking for a missing prostitute on Long Island's Fire Island have discovered three bodies and a set of skeletal remains near Oak Beach have discovered three bodies and a set of skeletal remains near Oak Beach since Saturday. since Saturday. Dormer said police are considering the possibility that a serial killer could be responsible.
"I'm not going to say that, but certainly we're looking at that, that we could have a serial killer."
The bodies were found on Oak Beach. The first set of remains was discovered during a search for Shonnan Gilbert, a 24-year-old prostitute from New Jersey who has been missing since May, The Associated Press reported.
Three more bodies were found Monday in the same area.
Authorities believe the remains were dumped in the area over an 18-month period. Two of the victims were found wrapped in burlap sacks. Due to the advanced state of decomposition, authorities have only been able to identify two of the victims as female. The gender of the other two victims is pending further examination.
"They weren't clustered together, and it appears that they were thrown out of a vehicle into foliage, into the area that's off the roadway so that they wouldn't be seen," Dormer told CBS' 101 WINS. "It appears to be an area that the bodies were dumped."
The case is eerily reminiscent of that of Joel Rifkin, a Long Island resident who was convicted of murdering at least nine women from 1989 to 1993 in New York City.
Police have set up a command post along Ocean Parkway and remain on the scene searching the area for additional evidence. The FBI is assisting in the investigation.
"We're going to continue to search in this area to find out if there's any more evidence, forensics, that kind of thing, and if there's possibly more bodies," Dormer said.
If the bodies are the work of a serial killer, he will be a lot more careful knowing that authorities are on to him, said former FBI agent Harold Copus now head of Copus Security Consultants in Atlanta.
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"If he strikes again, he now knows what is in the media and he will be more careful. He won't use burlap sacks and he won't dump the victims in the same area," Copus told AOL News.
"The longer serial killers are able to stay in the business of killing people, they become more sophisticated. They are learning as they go," Copus said.
He said if a serial killer is responsible in this case, the killings will accelerate.
"The cycle of homicides will increase. If it has been, like they said, 18 months since he started, before you know it the cycle will start to compress. It always does," he said. "Killing is like a drug to these guys. Just like a junkie, they need more."
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by bbeba103 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:56 pm
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by Isanah » Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:23 am
These are my teen stumping grounds. We had many keg parties on those beaches. I hope they solve these murders. It's so tragic as to how many people are murdered each and every day in America. I know the Internet has made this information global, but it still remains something that is hard to swallow. We live in a dangerous world, and thinking back of all the risks I have taken, I am very lucky to be alive!
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by bbeba103 » Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:52 pm
breaking news...
it just aired today that it is believed the person who has dumped now a 5th body along long island beach is an ex cop...
it just aired today that it is believed the person who has dumped now a 5th body along long island beach is an ex cop...
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by bbeba103 » Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:01 pm
Long Island Serial Killer Possibly An Ex-Cop?
(NEW YORK) -- Police are considering the possibility that the serial killer who has dumped at least eight bodies along a Long Island barrier beach may be an ex-cop or other law officer, law enforcement officials familiar with the case said.
The possibility that the killer could be a former law enforcement official or other person with knowledge of law enforcement techniques is being considered based on evidence that the suspect may understand investigators' procedures, they said.
Numerous people with possible links to the four slain women who have been identified have come to the attention of police since the investigation began, the officials said.
Police are also looking at people who have had regular or routine access to the beach where the bodies were found, they said.
Investigators are also exploring possible links to the serial killer who murdered prostitutes in New Jersey, they said.
According to one investigator familiar with the case and the behavior of serial killers, this appears to be an organized serial killer who plans methodically is probably above average intelligence. It appears that the killer usually lures people, then kills them in one place and disposes of the body in another, the investigator said. This sort of killer is often social -- not a loner -- with family, friends and what would appear to be a normal life, the investigator said.
It was the disappearance of a prostitute that led New York police to stumble on the serial killer's ocean-front dumping ground in western Suffolk County.
Shannan Gilbert, 24, disappeared in May 2010 after arranging online to meet a client for sex. Her disappearance triggered a search in the scrub brush along Gilgo Beach, a popular summer getaway spot, but much less frequently visited in the winter.
In December police found four skeletal bodies, all of them women and all of them prostitutes, but none were Gilbert. Last week, cops found another four bodies. Those bodies have not been identified, but Suffolk County Police said Tuesday that none of the remains belonged to Gilbert.
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(NEW YORK) -- Police are considering the possibility that the serial killer who has dumped at least eight bodies along a Long Island barrier beach may be an ex-cop or other law officer, law enforcement officials familiar with the case said.
The possibility that the killer could be a former law enforcement official or other person with knowledge of law enforcement techniques is being considered based on evidence that the suspect may understand investigators' procedures, they said.
Numerous people with possible links to the four slain women who have been identified have come to the attention of police since the investigation began, the officials said.
Police are also looking at people who have had regular or routine access to the beach where the bodies were found, they said.
Investigators are also exploring possible links to the serial killer who murdered prostitutes in New Jersey, they said.
According to one investigator familiar with the case and the behavior of serial killers, this appears to be an organized serial killer who plans methodically is probably above average intelligence. It appears that the killer usually lures people, then kills them in one place and disposes of the body in another, the investigator said. This sort of killer is often social -- not a loner -- with family, friends and what would appear to be a normal life, the investigator said.
It was the disappearance of a prostitute that led New York police to stumble on the serial killer's ocean-front dumping ground in western Suffolk County.
Shannan Gilbert, 24, disappeared in May 2010 after arranging online to meet a client for sex. Her disappearance triggered a search in the scrub brush along Gilgo Beach, a popular summer getaway spot, but much less frequently visited in the winter.
In December police found four skeletal bodies, all of them women and all of them prostitutes, but none were Gilbert. Last week, cops found another four bodies. Those bodies have not been identified, but Suffolk County Police said Tuesday that none of the remains belonged to Gilbert.
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by bbeba103 » Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:44 pm
Lone killer suspected in New York serial killings
November 30, 2011
Suffolk County police now believe that one person, rather than multiple killers, is responsible for leaving up to 10 bodies along barrier beaches in Long Island, N.Y.
In a series of interviews timed to the anniversary of the discovery of the first body on Dec. 11, 2010, Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer said detectives no longer think that several killers were involved. Previously, officials had indicated that as many as three killers may have been responsible.
Dormer outlined officials’ latest thinking in interviews with Newsday, ABC News and the Associated Press.
The bodies of young women, a male transvestite and a toddler were dumped along Long Island's South Shore from 1996 to 2010, officials have said. All of the bodies were wrapped in burlap.
Most of the victims are believed to be prostitutes who advertised on Craigslist. But one victim was a girl, between 18 and 24 months old, who has been linked to one of the adult victims by genetic testing.
The investigation began as a hunt for a New Jersey prostitute, Shannan Gilbert. She is still missing and presumed dead.
Gilbert’s DNA does not match any of the recovered remains of the 10 bodies.
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November 30, 2011
Suffolk County police now believe that one person, rather than multiple killers, is responsible for leaving up to 10 bodies along barrier beaches in Long Island, N.Y.
In a series of interviews timed to the anniversary of the discovery of the first body on Dec. 11, 2010, Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer said detectives no longer think that several killers were involved. Previously, officials had indicated that as many as three killers may have been responsible.
Dormer outlined officials’ latest thinking in interviews with Newsday, ABC News and the Associated Press.
The bodies of young women, a male transvestite and a toddler were dumped along Long Island's South Shore from 1996 to 2010, officials have said. All of the bodies were wrapped in burlap.
Most of the victims are believed to be prostitutes who advertised on Craigslist. But one victim was a girl, between 18 and 24 months old, who has been linked to one of the adult victims by genetic testing.
The investigation began as a hunt for a New Jersey prostitute, Shannan Gilbert. She is still missing and presumed dead.
Gilbert’s DNA does not match any of the recovered remains of the 10 bodies.
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by PerryPeabody » Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:03 pm
Long Island Serial Killer Probe Uncovers Jeans, Phone Of Missing Woman Shannan Gilbert
By FRANK ELTMAN 12/ 7/11 05:27 PM ET Associated Press
OAK BEACH, N.Y. -- Clothing and other items belonging to a missing New Jersey prostitute whose disappearance helped spark an investigation into a possible serial killing spree on New York's Long Island have been recovered near where the woman was last seen 18 months ago, police said Wednesday.
Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer said officers have not found any remains of 24-year-old Shannan Gilbert, who they think drowned, but said the search would resume on Thursday.
"If it wasn't for Shannan Gilbert's disappearance we may never have found the remains of the other victims," Dormer told reporters at a news conference.
Police were looking for the Jersey City, N.J., woman last December when they stumbled upon what would eventually become 10 sets of human remains in the underbrush along a beach highway on a barrier island south of Long Island. Dormer and other police officials said they do not believe the deaths of the 10 people, mostly women linked to the sex trade, and Gilbert's disappearance are related.
Detectives on Tuesday and Wednesday found the woman's pocketbook with a photo ID inside, her jeans and shoes, as well as a cellphone they believe she owned. They think she drowned after becoming upset for an unexplained reason.
"It's very easy to get engulfed with water, muck, and fall down and not be able to get out of there," Dormer said. "We surmise that's what happened to Shannan and she's in there some place and we're going to do everything we can to find her."
In a telephone interview with Newsday, Gilbert's mom, Mari Cox Gilbert of Ellenville, N.Y., said she watched the news conference on television.
"I am still doubtful," Gilbert told the newspaper. "I need to see the items for myself to believe it."
Shannan Gilbert was last seen at a client's home in Oak Beach, a gated seashore community several miles east of Jones Beach State Park. She was taken by a driver to the Oak Beach community, where she met a client for sex. The client, Joseph Brewer, was interviewed by police but is not considered a suspect, authorities said.
Brewer has told police that Gilbert became upset after about two hours and that he summoned the driver to remove her from his home. The woman then reportedly fled the house.
Oak Beach resident Gustav Colletti has told authorities that Gilbert banged on his door at around 4:45 a.m. on May 1, 2010.
"She was saying, `I need help, I need help, they're after me,'" Coletti has told reporters. He said he told the woman he was calling police, but she immediately turned around and fled.
A few moments later, a man in a sport utility vehicle drove past the house and told Coletti he was looking for the woman. Coletti said the driver told him they had been at a party and the woman had become upset. The driver also has been interviewed but was not identified as a suspect.
Suffolk Chief of Detectives Dominic Varrone said witness reports that the woman was acting irrationally are consistent with her likely demise.
"Apparently what we found yesterday is very indicative, very supportive of the fact that she just wandered and ran aimlessly into this marshy area," he said.
While the inquiry into Gilbert's disappearance appeared to be coming to a conclusion, homicide detectives still have 10 unsolved murder cases to contend with. Police have received more than 1,200 tips about the case and have offered a $25,000 reward but have yet to identify any suspects.
Officers searched 90 specific locations in and around a several-mile stretch of Ocean Parkway on Monday; areas that were mapped after the FBI took high-tech surveillance photos of the area this year. Inspector Stuart Cameron noted that most areas had already been searched, but said the FBI surveillance photos prompted a return to the some of the sites.
The remains of the 10 people – eight women, a man and a baby – were found strewn mostly along the remote beach parkway, but some body parts from those victims were found on eastern Long Island and nearly 50 miles away on Fire Island. Police have identified only five of the 10 victims. Those five were all women working as escorts. The oldest remains are linked to a case 15 years ago.
Police Commissioner Richard Dormer has pulled back on earlier theories that multiple killers might have left the bodies along the parkway, the first of which was a woman who went missing in 1996. Dormer said last week he believes that because nine of the 10 were involved in the sex trade, their killings are likely related.
The tenth victim, a toddler girl, was linked by DNA to a woman believed to be her mother. The remains of the mother and child were found seven miles apart.
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http://www.newsday.com/news/breaking/bo ... -1.2541830 ]
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by PerryPeabody » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:09 am
Mother of missing escort Shannan Gilbert is furious at Long Island cops' claims
Doesn't believe her daughter died accidentally
BY Matthew Lysiak & Rich Schapiro
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Thursday, December 8 2011, 5:59 PM
Stephen Barcelo for the Daily News/Stephen Barcelo for the Daily News.
Suffolk County police searched marshland in the Oak Beach community near where the bodies of 10 people were found.
Suffolk County police found the belongings of prostitute Shannan Gilbert in a marsh where she went missing. ‘American Psycho’ remake in the works from Lionsgate: report Long Island cops find items believed to have belonged to missing hooker Shannan Gilbert Long Island cops say purse found on Oak Beach could be tied to missing escort Shannan Gilbert Long Island serial killer special on A&E is a cautionary tale about life on the dark side Police suspect murder victims found on Long Island's Gilgo Beach were murdered by single serial killer S.J. Rozan puts private eye Lydia Chin at risk in new thriller ‘Ghost Hero’
The mother of a missing New Jersey hooker - whose disappearance led to the discovery of 10 bodies on Long Island - is furious over police claims that she likely stumbled into a marsh and drowned.
A day after Suffolk County police suggested that Shannan Gilbert’s death was accidental, her mother was seething, a friend said.
“The family is upset about that,” said Mari Gilbert’s friend Michele Kotner.
“We don’t believe it was an accident. ... Something’s not right here.”
Gilbert, 24, was last seen in May 2010 running away from a john’s house near Oak Beach.
The search for Gilbert sparked the discovery of 10 sets of remains, mostly female hookers.
Cops believe a lone serial killer is responsible, and Gilbert’s disappearance is unrelated.
In recent days, cops searching a nearby marsh have found Gilbert’s purse, jeans, shoes and a cellphone they believe belonged to her.
Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer said Wednesday investigators believe Gilbert inadvertantly ended up in the water.
“It’s very easy to get engulfed with water, muck, and fall down and not be able to get out of there,” Dormer said.
Cops scouring Oak Beach Thursday turned up no evidence. The search is expected to resume Friday, authorities said.
Doesn't believe her daughter died accidentally
BY Matthew Lysiak & Rich Schapiro
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Thursday, December 8 2011, 5:59 PM
Stephen Barcelo for the Daily News/Stephen Barcelo for the Daily News.
Suffolk County police searched marshland in the Oak Beach community near where the bodies of 10 people were found.
Suffolk County police found the belongings of prostitute Shannan Gilbert in a marsh where she went missing. ‘American Psycho’ remake in the works from Lionsgate: report Long Island cops find items believed to have belonged to missing hooker Shannan Gilbert Long Island cops say purse found on Oak Beach could be tied to missing escort Shannan Gilbert Long Island serial killer special on A&E is a cautionary tale about life on the dark side Police suspect murder victims found on Long Island's Gilgo Beach were murdered by single serial killer S.J. Rozan puts private eye Lydia Chin at risk in new thriller ‘Ghost Hero’
The mother of a missing New Jersey hooker - whose disappearance led to the discovery of 10 bodies on Long Island - is furious over police claims that she likely stumbled into a marsh and drowned.
A day after Suffolk County police suggested that Shannan Gilbert’s death was accidental, her mother was seething, a friend said.
“The family is upset about that,” said Mari Gilbert’s friend Michele Kotner.
“We don’t believe it was an accident. ... Something’s not right here.”
Gilbert, 24, was last seen in May 2010 running away from a john’s house near Oak Beach.
The search for Gilbert sparked the discovery of 10 sets of remains, mostly female hookers.
Cops believe a lone serial killer is responsible, and Gilbert’s disappearance is unrelated.
In recent days, cops searching a nearby marsh have found Gilbert’s purse, jeans, shoes and a cellphone they believe belonged to her.
Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer said Wednesday investigators believe Gilbert inadvertantly ended up in the water.
“It’s very easy to get engulfed with water, muck, and fall down and not be able to get out of there,” Dormer said.
Cops scouring Oak Beach Thursday turned up no evidence. The search is expected to resume Friday, authorities said.
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by PerryPeabody » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:13 am
Missing-gal theory ripped
By KIERAN CROWLEY
N.Y. Post
Last Updated: 8:06 AM, December 9, 2011
Posted: 1:53 AM, December 9, 2011
Friends say they doubt a police theory that Shannan Gilbert — missing for 19 months — drowned in an Oak Beach, LI, marsh — especially since an official search yesterday failed to produce her body near her personal items.
Cops had dug up her cellphone, purse, shoes and torn jeans nearby on Wednesday.
Her disappearance in May 2010 led police to stumble upon the graveyard of a serial killer suspected of murdering 10 people.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/missing_gal_theory_
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By KIERAN CROWLEY
N.Y. Post
Last Updated: 8:06 AM, December 9, 2011
Posted: 1:53 AM, December 9, 2011
Friends say they doubt a police theory that Shannan Gilbert — missing for 19 months — drowned in an Oak Beach, LI, marsh — especially since an official search yesterday failed to produce her body near her personal items.
Cops had dug up her cellphone, purse, shoes and torn jeans nearby on Wednesday.
Her disappearance in May 2010 led police to stumble upon the graveyard of a serial killer suspected of murdering 10 people.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/missing_gal_theory_
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by PerryPeabody » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:33 pm
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Police: Corpse Found on New York Beach Is Likely Shannan Gilbert
Published December 13, 2011
| Associated Press
OAK BEACH, N.Y. – DEVELOPING: Investigators say they've recovered what appear to be the remains of a missing prostitute in a coastal marsh on New York's Long Island.
Suffolk County Police Commissioner Police Commissioner Richard Dormer says investigators looking for the body of Shannan Gilbert of Jersey City, N.J., discovered skeletal remains at around 9:15 a.m. Tuesday in a dense thicket.
He says authorities believe it is Gilbert's corpse.
Police began searching for the 24-year-old last December when they came upon the first of what would become 10 homicide victims' remains. They were strewn along several miles of thicket along a parkway leading to Jones Beach.
Police believe a serial killer is responsible for those deaths. They think Gilbert may have drowned accidentally while fleeing a client's home for an unclear reason.
The remains were found in the same area.
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Police: Corpse Found on New York Beach Is Likely Shannan Gilbert
Published December 13, 2011
| Associated Press
OAK BEACH, N.Y. – DEVELOPING: Investigators say they've recovered what appear to be the remains of a missing prostitute in a coastal marsh on New York's Long Island.
Suffolk County Police Commissioner Police Commissioner Richard Dormer says investigators looking for the body of Shannan Gilbert of Jersey City, N.J., discovered skeletal remains at around 9:15 a.m. Tuesday in a dense thicket.
He says authorities believe it is Gilbert's corpse.
Police began searching for the 24-year-old last December when they came upon the first of what would become 10 homicide victims' remains. They were strewn along several miles of thicket along a parkway leading to Jones Beach.
Police believe a serial killer is responsible for those deaths. They think Gilbert may have drowned accidentally while fleeing a client's home for an unclear reason.
The remains were found in the same area.
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by PerryPeabody » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:37 pm
Body of missing escort Shannan Gilbert likely found in Oak Beach, L.I. one year after disappearance: police Prostitute’s remains are 11th set discovered along Suffolk shore
BY Matthew Lysiak & Tracy Connor
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Originally Published: Tuesday, December 13 2011, 11:50 AM
Updated: Tuesday, December 13 2011, 12:29 PM
A year after the search for Shannan Gilbert led to the discovery of 10 bodies at Gilgo Beach, L.I., the missing escort’s corpse was found a few miles away, police said Tuesday.
Gilbert's purse, including her ID and cell phone, and her jeans and shoes were found in marshland last week, and police expanded their efforts to find her body.
Skeletal remains were found at the Oak Beach site, and police said they believe they belong to Gilbert but have not confirmed it through forensics.
The 24-year-old disappeared in May 2010 after fleeing a client’s Oak Beach house in hysterics.
Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer has said he believed Gilbert accidentally drowned and did not fall prey to a serial killer who stalks his victims on Craigslist.
“If it wasn’t for Shannan Gilbert’s disappearance, we may never have found the remains of the other victims,” Dormer told The Associated Press this week.
Over the course of several months, police uncovered the remains of eight women, a man who dressed in women’s clothing, and a small child.
Five were prostitutes who advertised online: Melissa Barthelemay, Megan Waterman, Amber Lynn Costello, Maureen Barnes, and Jessica Taylor.
Part of Taylor’s body was found in Manorville, L.I., in 2003. Her hands, arm and head were found in Gilgo Beach.
Another body found in Manorville in 2000 was also linked to body parts at Gilgo. That victim has never been identified.
Relatives of the suspected serial killer victims were gathering at Gilgo on Tuesday to mark the one-year anniversary of the day four of the bodies were found.
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BY Matthew Lysiak & Tracy Connor
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Originally Published: Tuesday, December 13 2011, 11:50 AM
Updated: Tuesday, December 13 2011, 12:29 PM
A year after the search for Shannan Gilbert led to the discovery of 10 bodies at Gilgo Beach, L.I., the missing escort’s corpse was found a few miles away, police said Tuesday.
Gilbert's purse, including her ID and cell phone, and her jeans and shoes were found in marshland last week, and police expanded their efforts to find her body.
Skeletal remains were found at the Oak Beach site, and police said they believe they belong to Gilbert but have not confirmed it through forensics.
The 24-year-old disappeared in May 2010 after fleeing a client’s Oak Beach house in hysterics.
Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer has said he believed Gilbert accidentally drowned and did not fall prey to a serial killer who stalks his victims on Craigslist.
“If it wasn’t for Shannan Gilbert’s disappearance, we may never have found the remains of the other victims,” Dormer told The Associated Press this week.
Over the course of several months, police uncovered the remains of eight women, a man who dressed in women’s clothing, and a small child.
Five were prostitutes who advertised online: Melissa Barthelemay, Megan Waterman, Amber Lynn Costello, Maureen Barnes, and Jessica Taylor.
Part of Taylor’s body was found in Manorville, L.I., in 2003. Her hands, arm and head were found in Gilgo Beach.
Another body found in Manorville in 2000 was also linked to body parts at Gilgo. That victim has never been identified.
Relatives of the suspected serial killer victims were gathering at Gilgo on Tuesday to mark the one-year anniversary of the day four of the bodies were found.
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by PerryPeabody » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:02 pm
LI Police Think They've Found Missing Prostitute Shannan Gilbert's Body
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A year after the first three of ten bodies were found on Gilgo State Beach in Long Island police say they have found the remains of a woman they believe to be Shannan Gilbert, a sex worker whose disappearance in May 2010 led to the grisly revelation of a serial killer working on the island. The latest body was found about a quarter mile from where Gilbert's belongings were previously found. Full confirmation of the body's identity will come with after a forensic examination.
Last week police found a bag in the underbrush in Oak Beach that contained a phone and identification connected to the Jersey City sex worker. Now Suffolk County police commissioner Richard Dormer says new skeletal remains were found at 9:14 a.m. this morning. In a conference today Dormer says the reason the police had not previously checked the area where the body was found was because "it appeared at first when they searched it that nobody could get in there. I'm sure some of you have been in the area and know what I'm talking about."
Dormer then reiterated that "it's very easy to miss the skeletal remains in that area. Once again, the media and the public should know that this is a very tough, brambled area. Difficult to traverse. You can't walk through that area. The K9 unit can't walk through that area."
If there is any actual connection between Gilbert, who was last seen in a panic running from the home of a john, and the ten bodies that have been found nearby (five of which have not been identified), it has not yet been made public. And as for now the Suffolk police are sticking to their latest theory that they are unrelated. Per Dormer, "we're not changing our theory at this time. It appears that she was headed towards the parkway, towards the lighting on the causeway, and that lends to our theory that she was trying to get out of the area."
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By Garth Johnston in News on December 13, 2011 12:01 PM
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A year after the first three of ten bodies were found on Gilgo State Beach in Long Island police say they have found the remains of a woman they believe to be Shannan Gilbert, a sex worker whose disappearance in May 2010 led to the grisly revelation of a serial killer working on the island. The latest body was found about a quarter mile from where Gilbert's belongings were previously found. Full confirmation of the body's identity will come with after a forensic examination.
Last week police found a bag in the underbrush in Oak Beach that contained a phone and identification connected to the Jersey City sex worker. Now Suffolk County police commissioner Richard Dormer says new skeletal remains were found at 9:14 a.m. this morning. In a conference today Dormer says the reason the police had not previously checked the area where the body was found was because "it appeared at first when they searched it that nobody could get in there. I'm sure some of you have been in the area and know what I'm talking about."
Dormer then reiterated that "it's very easy to miss the skeletal remains in that area. Once again, the media and the public should know that this is a very tough, brambled area. Difficult to traverse. You can't walk through that area. The K9 unit can't walk through that area."
If there is any actual connection between Gilbert, who was last seen in a panic running from the home of a john, and the ten bodies that have been found nearby (five of which have not been identified), it has not yet been made public. And as for now the Suffolk police are sticking to their latest theory that they are unrelated. Per Dormer, "we're not changing our theory at this time. It appears that she was headed towards the parkway, towards the lighting on the causeway, and that lends to our theory that she was trying to get out of the area."
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by PerryPeabody » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:43 am
Tragic hunt for Shannan is over
New body likely gal who vanished last year
By SELIM ALGAR and KIERAN CROWLEY
Last Updated: 6:05 AM, December 14, 2011
Police unearthed skeletal remains believed to be those of prostitute Shannan Gilbert — whose disappearance 19 months ago led searchers to stumble upon a serial killer’s graveyard — in thick swamp yesterday, authorities said.
“We believe at this time that they belong to the missing Shannan Gilbert,” Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer said after the exhaustive, weeklong search spanning the 100-acre marsh in Oak Beach.
The medical examiner has yet to confirm that the remains belong to Gilbert or the cause of death, but Dormer expressed his “condolences” to her family for the “death of their daughter.”
Dormer insisted it was an accidental death — saying the drugged-up sex worker drowned in the marshland after hysterically running from a nearby john’s house in May 2010 while screaming, “They’re trying to kill me!”
Police suspect that Gilbert fled into the dense area in a bid to get to the Robert Moses Causeway.
“Brambles and thick brush and terrain would have made it impossible for her to get to the [Causeway],” Dormer said. “It would be easy to get exhausted, fall down and not move.”
Police have said the john, Joe Brewer, of Oak Beach, has cooperated with cops in the case and is not a suspect.
“As one of the last people to see her, I have always held out hope that she would be found alive,” Brewer said yesterday. “My thoughts and prayers are with the Gilbert family.”
After fleeing from Brewer’s home, Gilbert then ran to the nearby home of Gus Colletti, who briefly took her inside. She ran away after he called the police.
Officials “found her in an area that they were told she went,” said Coletti, the last person to see her alive. “She was seen going in there.”
Last week, police found Gilbert’s jeans, shoes, purse, ID, cellphone and lip gloss in a marshland one-quarter mile away from Colletti’s home, right behind a house on Larboard Court in Oak Beach.
Her body was found at 9:14 a.m. yesterday in the marsh, one-quarter mile northeast of where her belongings were. She was just feet away from the Ocean Parkway roadway.
While searching for Gilbert months ago, police made the unexpected discovery of what would eventually become 10 victims of a suspected serial killer along Gilgo and Oak beaches. Most were linked to the sex trade.
Gilbert’s mother, Mari, held out some hope that the remains might not be her daughter’s.
“I really want to hear it from the medical examiner’s office. Until then, I don’t know what to think,” she said, before a vigil on the beach with the families of other victims to mark the anniversary of when the first bodies were found.
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New body likely gal who vanished last year
By SELIM ALGAR and KIERAN CROWLEY
Last Updated: 6:05 AM, December 14, 2011
Police unearthed skeletal remains believed to be those of prostitute Shannan Gilbert — whose disappearance 19 months ago led searchers to stumble upon a serial killer’s graveyard — in thick swamp yesterday, authorities said.
“We believe at this time that they belong to the missing Shannan Gilbert,” Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer said after the exhaustive, weeklong search spanning the 100-acre marsh in Oak Beach.
The medical examiner has yet to confirm that the remains belong to Gilbert or the cause of death, but Dormer expressed his “condolences” to her family for the “death of their daughter.”
Dormer insisted it was an accidental death — saying the drugged-up sex worker drowned in the marshland after hysterically running from a nearby john’s house in May 2010 while screaming, “They’re trying to kill me!”
Police suspect that Gilbert fled into the dense area in a bid to get to the Robert Moses Causeway.
“Brambles and thick brush and terrain would have made it impossible for her to get to the [Causeway],” Dormer said. “It would be easy to get exhausted, fall down and not move.”
Police have said the john, Joe Brewer, of Oak Beach, has cooperated with cops in the case and is not a suspect.
“As one of the last people to see her, I have always held out hope that she would be found alive,” Brewer said yesterday. “My thoughts and prayers are with the Gilbert family.”
After fleeing from Brewer’s home, Gilbert then ran to the nearby home of Gus Colletti, who briefly took her inside. She ran away after he called the police.
Officials “found her in an area that they were told she went,” said Coletti, the last person to see her alive. “She was seen going in there.”
Last week, police found Gilbert’s jeans, shoes, purse, ID, cellphone and lip gloss in a marshland one-quarter mile away from Colletti’s home, right behind a house on Larboard Court in Oak Beach.
Her body was found at 9:14 a.m. yesterday in the marsh, one-quarter mile northeast of where her belongings were. She was just feet away from the Ocean Parkway roadway.
While searching for Gilbert months ago, police made the unexpected discovery of what would eventually become 10 victims of a suspected serial killer along Gilgo and Oak beaches. Most were linked to the sex trade.
Gilbert’s mother, Mari, held out some hope that the remains might not be her daughter’s.
“I really want to hear it from the medical examiner’s office. Until then, I don’t know what to think,” she said, before a vigil on the beach with the families of other victims to mark the anniversary of when the first bodies were found.
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by PerryPeabody » Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:10 am
Suffolk DA Disputes "1 Serial Killer" Theory in Beach Remains Case
Police Commissioner Richard Dormer put the theory forth two weeks ago.
By Greg Cergol | Thursday, Dec 15, 2011 The Suffolk County District Attorney is disputing the police commissioner's theory that the 10 sets of remains discovered along a desolate stretch of Long Island beach are victims of one serial killer.
"The facts don't bear out the single killer theory," District Attorney Thomas Spota testified before the county legislature's Public Safety Committee on Thursday.
After initially saying the homicides appeared to be the work of more than one individual, Police Commissioner Richard Dormer posited two weeks ago that one killer was responsible -- a theory he reiterated at Thursday's hearing.
Spota called the police commissioner's comments "disturbing" and maintained his earlier claim that there could be as many as three killers.
He insisted there is no evidence all the victims are associated with the "sex trade," as the police commissioner has suggested.
"We haven't even identified all the victims," Spota said.
Five of the 10 victims have been identified thus far. Four of the bodies were discovered near each other off Ocean Parkway, each wrapped in a burlap sack, while police searched for a missing woman in the area last December. All four of those victims were women who advertised escort services on Craigslist.
The fifth identified victim was Jessica Taylor, another prostitute. She was dismembered, with parts of her remains discovered in Manorville in 2003 and her head and hands found off Ocean Parkway earlier this year.
An unidentified male police believe dressed in women's clothing was among the victims found earlier this year, as was an unidentified toddler. The toddler was found near the remains of an unknown female.
Spota explained he was blindsided by the commissioner's "single killer" theory when it was made public two weeks ago.
"He and I have never discussed that," said Spota.
Police discovered the 10 sets of remains while they searching for missing Jersey City resident Shannan Gilbert. Gilbert, also a sex worker who advertised her services on Craigslist, vanished in May 2010 after fleeing a client's house in the gated community of Oak Beach.
Police believe they recovered her remains in a marshy area on Tuesday, near where she was last seen. A medical examiner must positively identify the remains.
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Police Commissioner Richard Dormer put the theory forth two weeks ago.
By Greg Cergol | Thursday, Dec 15, 2011 The Suffolk County District Attorney is disputing the police commissioner's theory that the 10 sets of remains discovered along a desolate stretch of Long Island beach are victims of one serial killer.
"The facts don't bear out the single killer theory," District Attorney Thomas Spota testified before the county legislature's Public Safety Committee on Thursday.
After initially saying the homicides appeared to be the work of more than one individual, Police Commissioner Richard Dormer posited two weeks ago that one killer was responsible -- a theory he reiterated at Thursday's hearing.
Spota called the police commissioner's comments "disturbing" and maintained his earlier claim that there could be as many as three killers.
He insisted there is no evidence all the victims are associated with the "sex trade," as the police commissioner has suggested.
"We haven't even identified all the victims," Spota said.
Five of the 10 victims have been identified thus far. Four of the bodies were discovered near each other off Ocean Parkway, each wrapped in a burlap sack, while police searched for a missing woman in the area last December. All four of those victims were women who advertised escort services on Craigslist.
The fifth identified victim was Jessica Taylor, another prostitute. She was dismembered, with parts of her remains discovered in Manorville in 2003 and her head and hands found off Ocean Parkway earlier this year.
An unidentified male police believe dressed in women's clothing was among the victims found earlier this year, as was an unidentified toddler. The toddler was found near the remains of an unknown female.
Spota explained he was blindsided by the commissioner's "single killer" theory when it was made public two weeks ago.
"He and I have never discussed that," said Spota.
Police discovered the 10 sets of remains while they searching for missing Jersey City resident Shannan Gilbert. Gilbert, also a sex worker who advertised her services on Craigslist, vanished in May 2010 after fleeing a client's house in the gated community of Oak Beach.
Police believe they recovered her remains in a marshy area on Tuesday, near where she was last seen. A medical examiner must positively identify the remains.
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by gwen » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:26 pm
Shannan Gilbert not a victim of LI serial killer? Remains pose questions, police say
(CBS) Shannan Gilbert was a 23-year-old down on her luck. She dreamed of becoming a singer, but was working as an escort, supporting herself by offering sexual services online. She might have remained unnoticed in that dark, seedy life had she not gone missing in Long Island, New York in May, 2010.
It was when police were searching for Shannan last December that they stumbled instead on the bodies of four other women, bodies reportedly wrapped in burlap and dismembered. More searches led to more remains, ten in all. Police didn't find Shannan Gilbert, but they did uncover a terrible fact: there was at least one serial killer at work on Long Island, targeting sex workers.
I never met Shannan Gilbert, but I feel as if I know her. I have spent the past six months talking to her sisters, talking to eyewitnesses to her last panicked run from a beachfront gated community, talking to investigators. What happened to her? I wasn't sure we'd ever know for sure. And then this week, a break in the case. A big one. Sadly for Ms. Gilbert's family, it appears that she never left the beach where she was last seen in the early morning hours of May 4th, 2010. On Tuesday, investigators searching the marshy land near the beach found remains that appear to be Gilbert. Gilbert had a titanium plate in her jaw and sources in the investigation say such a plate was found. But even if the skeletal remains belong to Ms. Gilbert, the mystery is far from solved.
Earlier this week, in an exclusive one-on-one interview that I did with Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer, he shot down the idea that Shannan Gilbert is a victim of a serial killer. In fact, he doesn't even believe she was murdered. Instead, he told me that he believed that she likely drowned in the marshy, overgrown area where she was found.
She's not a victim of the serial killer, he argues, because her case differs greatly from that of the other victims. Unlike the first four women found, Gilbert's remains, if, in fact, they are hers, were not found wrapped, nor did it appear that her body had been dismembered.
He also points to the fact that it is unlikely that the serial killer would target a woman who had a driver, as Gilbert did. That would mean a possible eyewitness. Dormer makes both a compelling and credible argument. But it may be too early for anyone to say that Gilbert's death was an accident. An autopsy has not yet been completed. Investigators need to determine, as well as they can, how she died before they dismiss the idea that she was murdered.
Shannan Gilbert's family is outraged that police appear to dismiss her death as an unfortunate accident. They point to the fact that Gilbert made a 23 minute call to 911 before she ran out of a client's house. Reportedly, she told the operator that 'they are trying to kill me,' although she apparently never identified the 'they'. What's more, say family members, Gilbert's jeans, shoes and purse were found a quarter mile from her remains. They believe that someone dumped Gilbert's possessions before her body was left.
So, as is often the case, this latest discovery only leads to more questions. And the most important question of all: who killed the ten people, is yet to be answered. At this time, it doesn't appear that authorities are much closer to the truth. On Wednesday, Commissioner Dormer told me confidently that a lone killer was responsible for all the death. The very next day, the County Prosecutor contradicted him and said that there is more than one killer out there. Doesn't give you much confidence that any arrests will be made any time soon.
Watch a preview of 48 Hours Mystery: The Long Island Serial Killer, to air Saturday, Dec. 17, 2011, 10pET/PT
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(CBS) Shannan Gilbert was a 23-year-old down on her luck. She dreamed of becoming a singer, but was working as an escort, supporting herself by offering sexual services online. She might have remained unnoticed in that dark, seedy life had she not gone missing in Long Island, New York in May, 2010.
It was when police were searching for Shannan last December that they stumbled instead on the bodies of four other women, bodies reportedly wrapped in burlap and dismembered. More searches led to more remains, ten in all. Police didn't find Shannan Gilbert, but they did uncover a terrible fact: there was at least one serial killer at work on Long Island, targeting sex workers.
I never met Shannan Gilbert, but I feel as if I know her. I have spent the past six months talking to her sisters, talking to eyewitnesses to her last panicked run from a beachfront gated community, talking to investigators. What happened to her? I wasn't sure we'd ever know for sure. And then this week, a break in the case. A big one. Sadly for Ms. Gilbert's family, it appears that she never left the beach where she was last seen in the early morning hours of May 4th, 2010. On Tuesday, investigators searching the marshy land near the beach found remains that appear to be Gilbert. Gilbert had a titanium plate in her jaw and sources in the investigation say such a plate was found. But even if the skeletal remains belong to Ms. Gilbert, the mystery is far from solved.
Earlier this week, in an exclusive one-on-one interview that I did with Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer, he shot down the idea that Shannan Gilbert is a victim of a serial killer. In fact, he doesn't even believe she was murdered. Instead, he told me that he believed that she likely drowned in the marshy, overgrown area where she was found.
She's not a victim of the serial killer, he argues, because her case differs greatly from that of the other victims. Unlike the first four women found, Gilbert's remains, if, in fact, they are hers, were not found wrapped, nor did it appear that her body had been dismembered.
He also points to the fact that it is unlikely that the serial killer would target a woman who had a driver, as Gilbert did. That would mean a possible eyewitness. Dormer makes both a compelling and credible argument. But it may be too early for anyone to say that Gilbert's death was an accident. An autopsy has not yet been completed. Investigators need to determine, as well as they can, how she died before they dismiss the idea that she was murdered.
Shannan Gilbert's family is outraged that police appear to dismiss her death as an unfortunate accident. They point to the fact that Gilbert made a 23 minute call to 911 before she ran out of a client's house. Reportedly, she told the operator that 'they are trying to kill me,' although she apparently never identified the 'they'. What's more, say family members, Gilbert's jeans, shoes and purse were found a quarter mile from her remains. They believe that someone dumped Gilbert's possessions before her body was left.
So, as is often the case, this latest discovery only leads to more questions. And the most important question of all: who killed the ten people, is yet to be answered. At this time, it doesn't appear that authorities are much closer to the truth. On Wednesday, Commissioner Dormer told me confidently that a lone killer was responsible for all the death. The very next day, the County Prosecutor contradicted him and said that there is more than one killer out there. Doesn't give you much confidence that any arrests will be made any time soon.
Watch a preview of 48 Hours Mystery: The Long Island Serial Killer, to air Saturday, Dec. 17, 2011, 10pET/PT
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by gwen » Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:18 pm
Long Island Beach Remains Identified as Shannan Gilbert
Skeletal remains found in an impassable tangle of swamp and thick brush on a Long Island, N.Y., barrier beach have been identified as Shannan Gilbert, the woman whose disappearance led to the discovery of what police say is a serial killer's burial ground.
The Suffolk County Medical Examiner's Office identified the remains today, and though the cause of death is still undetermined, police have said they believed it was accidental.
The body was found last week about a quarter of a mile from where the 24-year-old Gilbert's purse, identification and shoes were located last week, near Oak Beach.
"[The homicide squad] were on an amphibious machine edging forward into thick brush when the homicide squad detective spotted the skeletal remains lying on the surface of the ground," "Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer said after the remains were found.
Oak Beach is on a barrier island along the South Shore of Long Island, separating the Atlantic Ocean from South Oyster Bay. In the summer the ocean beaches are crowded, but in winter the beaches are largely deserted.
Dormer called the area where the body was found a "very tough, desolate, tangled mess."
He said that Gilbert could have likely been able to see the lights on a nearby parkway and attempted to go in that direction, but that she did not get very far in the marshy, tough ramble.
"If it is Shannan Gilbert, then her location is indicative of her trying to make it to the causeway, which is northeast of where her remains were found," Dormer said.
"There's no way Shannan Gilbert could have gotten through that brush to make it to the parkway," Dormer said. "If somebody is disoriented and anxious and running, it certainly would take a toll on you."
Gilbert, 24, was last seen in May 2010 apparently running from someone near today's search area. On the night of her disappearance, witnesses told police Gilbert did not appear to be acting rationally.
"It appeared at first when they searched that there's no way anyone could get in there," Dormer said. "We went in with the idea that we were going to do this one last time to see if we can find anything and we did."
"It is certainly a sad day for the Gilbert family and our condolences go out to that family on the death of their daughter," Dormer said.
The search for Gilbert led to the discovery of 10 sets of dismembered bodies that are believed to have been the victims of a serial killer, but Gilbert's death is not believed to be linked to the other 10 deaths.
Detectives believe a single killer is responsible for the dismembered bodies of young women, a male transvestite and a toddler found dumped along a pristine stretch of Long Island's south shore from 1996 to 2010.
Police believe that all 10 of the victims were linked to the sex trade, with DNA indicating that the toddler was the likely daughter of one of the victims.
It was the search for Craigslist escort Gilbert that yielded the grisly discoveries. Gilbert disappeared the previous May after meeting a client in nearby Oak Beach.
"Our theory is that this is a coincidence. She went missing in Oak Beach and this has nothing to do with the serial killer," Dormer has said.
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Skeletal remains found in an impassable tangle of swamp and thick brush on a Long Island, N.Y., barrier beach have been identified as Shannan Gilbert, the woman whose disappearance led to the discovery of what police say is a serial killer's burial ground.
The Suffolk County Medical Examiner's Office identified the remains today, and though the cause of death is still undetermined, police have said they believed it was accidental.
The body was found last week about a quarter of a mile from where the 24-year-old Gilbert's purse, identification and shoes were located last week, near Oak Beach.
"[The homicide squad] were on an amphibious machine edging forward into thick brush when the homicide squad detective spotted the skeletal remains lying on the surface of the ground," "Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer said after the remains were found.
Oak Beach is on a barrier island along the South Shore of Long Island, separating the Atlantic Ocean from South Oyster Bay. In the summer the ocean beaches are crowded, but in winter the beaches are largely deserted.
Dormer called the area where the body was found a "very tough, desolate, tangled mess."
He said that Gilbert could have likely been able to see the lights on a nearby parkway and attempted to go in that direction, but that she did not get very far in the marshy, tough ramble.
"If it is Shannan Gilbert, then her location is indicative of her trying to make it to the causeway, which is northeast of where her remains were found," Dormer said.
"There's no way Shannan Gilbert could have gotten through that brush to make it to the parkway," Dormer said. "If somebody is disoriented and anxious and running, it certainly would take a toll on you."
Gilbert, 24, was last seen in May 2010 apparently running from someone near today's search area. On the night of her disappearance, witnesses told police Gilbert did not appear to be acting rationally.
"It appeared at first when they searched that there's no way anyone could get in there," Dormer said. "We went in with the idea that we were going to do this one last time to see if we can find anything and we did."
"It is certainly a sad day for the Gilbert family and our condolences go out to that family on the death of their daughter," Dormer said.
The search for Gilbert led to the discovery of 10 sets of dismembered bodies that are believed to have been the victims of a serial killer, but Gilbert's death is not believed to be linked to the other 10 deaths.
Detectives believe a single killer is responsible for the dismembered bodies of young women, a male transvestite and a toddler found dumped along a pristine stretch of Long Island's south shore from 1996 to 2010.
Police believe that all 10 of the victims were linked to the sex trade, with DNA indicating that the toddler was the likely daughter of one of the victims.
It was the search for Craigslist escort Gilbert that yielded the grisly discoveries. Gilbert disappeared the previous May after meeting a client in nearby Oak Beach.
"Our theory is that this is a coincidence. She went missing in Oak Beach and this has nothing to do with the serial killer," Dormer has said.
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Re: Four Bodies Were Found In NY's Long Island..
by PerryPeabody » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:32 am
Long Island Serial Killer? Another Body Found In Woods Near Manorville
WANTAGH, NY-APRIL15: An aerial view of the area newar Gilgo Beach and Ocean parkway on Long Island where police have been conducting a prolonged search after finding ten sets of human remains on April 15, 2011 in Wantagh, New york. Of the ten only four sets of remains have been identified as missing female porstittues in their 20s who had been working in the online escort business. Police, working with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), suspect that a single serial killer may in the New Y 02/18/12 04:08 PM ET Associated Press
MANORVILLE, N.Y. -- Another human skeleton has turned up in a wooded area on the eastern end of Long Island, in a town where at least four other sets of human remains have been discovered in recent years.
The latest set of bones was discovered at around 6:30 p.m. Friday in a pine barrens in Manorville. A resident of the town, Matt Samuel, said he was walking through the area with his dog when he made the find.
"I probably walked by it a hundred times before, and I saw it kind of sticking out of the ground, and it looked unusual. I looked a little closer and from there discovered that it was human remains," he said, adding that it looked like the body had decomposed many years ago. "It was wrapped in bed sheets and a plastic bag, It was a whole body, but just the bones, there was trees growing up through it, so it has been there a long time."
Suffolk County Police said the undergrowth suggested the body had been dumped about five years ago, but an anthropologist was being brought in to examine the site. The age, gender and identity of the person were unknown.
The body adds to a growing list of unsolved mysteries involving corpses found in the town, some of which lies within the Long Island Central Pine Barrens, a protected forest that is one of the wilder areas on the heavily suburban island.
Between 2000 and 2003, four bodies were discovered in the town's forests. Two were men, found not far from the site of Friday's discovery, near where the Long Island Expressway cuts through the town. They have never been identified.
Two others were women who had been beheaded and dismembered, possibly by the same mass murderer.
Their heads and other parts of their bodies were discovered last spring when police on the trail of a suspected serial killer searched a long stretch of beach highway on a barrier island 45 miles to the west. That search also turned up eight other corpses, several of which belonged to missing prostitutes. Others remain unidentified, and police are still unsure how many of the killings are related. Investigators also discovered the body of an 11th person on the same stretch of barrier islands in December, but have said they believe that woman, also a missing prostitute, drowned accidentally.
One of the women whose remains were partly found in Manorville has been identified as Jessica Taylor, 20, of New York City. Her torso was found about four miles from the site of Friday's discovery.
Suffolk County Deputy Inspector Kevin Fallon told reporters Saturday that it was too early to tell whether the new skeleton is related to any of those other cases.
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WANTAGH, NY-APRIL15: An aerial view of the area newar Gilgo Beach and Ocean parkway on Long Island where police have been conducting a prolonged search after finding ten sets of human remains on April 15, 2011 in Wantagh, New york. Of the ten only four sets of remains have been identified as missing female porstittues in their 20s who had been working in the online escort business. Police, working with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), suspect that a single serial killer may in the New Y 02/18/12 04:08 PM ET Associated Press
MANORVILLE, N.Y. -- Another human skeleton has turned up in a wooded area on the eastern end of Long Island, in a town where at least four other sets of human remains have been discovered in recent years.
The latest set of bones was discovered at around 6:30 p.m. Friday in a pine barrens in Manorville. A resident of the town, Matt Samuel, said he was walking through the area with his dog when he made the find.
"I probably walked by it a hundred times before, and I saw it kind of sticking out of the ground, and it looked unusual. I looked a little closer and from there discovered that it was human remains," he said, adding that it looked like the body had decomposed many years ago. "It was wrapped in bed sheets and a plastic bag, It was a whole body, but just the bones, there was trees growing up through it, so it has been there a long time."
Suffolk County Police said the undergrowth suggested the body had been dumped about five years ago, but an anthropologist was being brought in to examine the site. The age, gender and identity of the person were unknown.
The body adds to a growing list of unsolved mysteries involving corpses found in the town, some of which lies within the Long Island Central Pine Barrens, a protected forest that is one of the wilder areas on the heavily suburban island.
Between 2000 and 2003, four bodies were discovered in the town's forests. Two were men, found not far from the site of Friday's discovery, near where the Long Island Expressway cuts through the town. They have never been identified.
Two others were women who had been beheaded and dismembered, possibly by the same mass murderer.
Their heads and other parts of their bodies were discovered last spring when police on the trail of a suspected serial killer searched a long stretch of beach highway on a barrier island 45 miles to the west. That search also turned up eight other corpses, several of which belonged to missing prostitutes. Others remain unidentified, and police are still unsure how many of the killings are related. Investigators also discovered the body of an 11th person on the same stretch of barrier islands in December, but have said they believe that woman, also a missing prostitute, drowned accidentally.
One of the women whose remains were partly found in Manorville has been identified as Jessica Taylor, 20, of New York City. Her torso was found about four miles from the site of Friday's discovery.
Suffolk County Deputy Inspector Kevin Fallon told reporters Saturday that it was too early to tell whether the new skeleton is related to any of those other cases.
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Re: Four Bodies Were Found In NY's Long Island..
by PerryPeabody » Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:24 pm
More Human Remains Are Found on Long IslandBy AL BAKER
Published: February 18, 2012
Another set of human remains was discovered in a wooded area of eastern Long Island that has become a dumping ground for bodies over the years, the authorities said on Saturday.
The question now is whether the skeletal remains, found on Friday evening by a man walking his dog on a trail in Manorville, represent an isolated death or is the latest clue in a continuing serial-killer case that is confronting investigators in Suffolk County.
“At this time, we cannot say if the remains are connected to any other cases,” a spokeswoman for the police said on Saturday. “The scene will be processed and re-evaluated,” he said, but that they were “at the preliminary stages of the investigation”
The spokeswoman said investigators “cannot yet determine the age or gender of the remains.”
The police said a forensic anthropologist from the New York City medical examiner’s office would assist the Suffolk authorities in removing and evaluating the bones, which they said were believed to have been in the woods for several years based on the degree of plant growth around them.
Investigators are trying to solve the killings of 10 people whose remains have been found since December 2010, spread amid the brush of Jones Beach Island, which is about 45 miles west of Manorville.
A serial killer is believed to be responsible for the deaths of four of those victims — all women who had worked as prostitutes.
Four other sets of human remains found off Ocean Parkway, on Jones Beach Island, included body parts from two victims who had been dismembered and whose torsos were discovered in Manorville, about four miles from where the newest remains were discovered, the authorities said.
Most of the remains of one of those victims, Jessica Taylor, 20, were found by a woman walking her dog off Halsey Manor Road in Manorville, shortly after Ms. Taylor disappeared in July 2003. She had worked as a prostitute in Washington, and briefly in New York. Her head and hands, were discovered in March off Ocean Parkway, about a mile from the location of the bodies of the other four women.
In November 2000, most of the body of another victim — who has not been identified but whom detectives refer to as Jane Doe No. 6 — was discovered in the same heavily wooded area of Manorville where Ms. Taylor’s torso was discovered.
The head, hands and other remains of Jane Doe No. 6 were found in April off Ocean Parkway.
It was early evening on Friday when Matthew J. Samuel, 30, discovered the bones in Manorville. This was about 350 yards from his house in an area he had passed many, many times.
He was cutting through the woods after he had been out with his German short-haired pointer, Molly, searching for the shed antlers of deer, when he noticed “the top, cranial portion of the skull,” bleached white from exposure. “I leaned in and looked a little closer and saw it was a skull from the seam in the back,” said Mr. Samuel, a welder, who is studying education. “And then I looked closer and it was human remains.”
He went home, called his older brother and a cousin and a friend. The four of them returned to the site with a flashlight. They saw the outline of a body seemingly face up, with a foot-high blueberry bush growing through it.
“We saw the pelvis bones sticking out,” said Mr. Samuel.
The body, partly buried, was wrapped in a worn bedsheet. The sheet appeared to be covered in a black plastic garbage bag and wrapped with duct tape. Mr. Samuel did not see shoes. “I think it was barefoot,” he said.
They called the police from there, he said, adding “I’m sure whoever it was, was missed for a while,” he said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/nyreg ... .html?_r=1
Published: February 18, 2012
Another set of human remains was discovered in a wooded area of eastern Long Island that has become a dumping ground for bodies over the years, the authorities said on Saturday.
The question now is whether the skeletal remains, found on Friday evening by a man walking his dog on a trail in Manorville, represent an isolated death or is the latest clue in a continuing serial-killer case that is confronting investigators in Suffolk County.
“At this time, we cannot say if the remains are connected to any other cases,” a spokeswoman for the police said on Saturday. “The scene will be processed and re-evaluated,” he said, but that they were “at the preliminary stages of the investigation”
The spokeswoman said investigators “cannot yet determine the age or gender of the remains.”
The police said a forensic anthropologist from the New York City medical examiner’s office would assist the Suffolk authorities in removing and evaluating the bones, which they said were believed to have been in the woods for several years based on the degree of plant growth around them.
Investigators are trying to solve the killings of 10 people whose remains have been found since December 2010, spread amid the brush of Jones Beach Island, which is about 45 miles west of Manorville.
A serial killer is believed to be responsible for the deaths of four of those victims — all women who had worked as prostitutes.
Four other sets of human remains found off Ocean Parkway, on Jones Beach Island, included body parts from two victims who had been dismembered and whose torsos were discovered in Manorville, about four miles from where the newest remains were discovered, the authorities said.
Most of the remains of one of those victims, Jessica Taylor, 20, were found by a woman walking her dog off Halsey Manor Road in Manorville, shortly after Ms. Taylor disappeared in July 2003. She had worked as a prostitute in Washington, and briefly in New York. Her head and hands, were discovered in March off Ocean Parkway, about a mile from the location of the bodies of the other four women.
In November 2000, most of the body of another victim — who has not been identified but whom detectives refer to as Jane Doe No. 6 — was discovered in the same heavily wooded area of Manorville where Ms. Taylor’s torso was discovered.
The head, hands and other remains of Jane Doe No. 6 were found in April off Ocean Parkway.
It was early evening on Friday when Matthew J. Samuel, 30, discovered the bones in Manorville. This was about 350 yards from his house in an area he had passed many, many times.
He was cutting through the woods after he had been out with his German short-haired pointer, Molly, searching for the shed antlers of deer, when he noticed “the top, cranial portion of the skull,” bleached white from exposure. “I leaned in and looked a little closer and saw it was a skull from the seam in the back,” said Mr. Samuel, a welder, who is studying education. “And then I looked closer and it was human remains.”
He went home, called his older brother and a cousin and a friend. The four of them returned to the site with a flashlight. They saw the outline of a body seemingly face up, with a foot-high blueberry bush growing through it.
“We saw the pelvis bones sticking out,” said Mr. Samuel.
The body, partly buried, was wrapped in a worn bedsheet. The sheet appeared to be covered in a black plastic garbage bag and wrapped with duct tape. Mr. Samuel did not see shoes. “I think it was barefoot,” he said.
They called the police from there, he said, adding “I’m sure whoever it was, was missed for a while,” he said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/nyreg ... .html?_r=1
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