Arubagirl translation of Jossy Editorial Aug 7th

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Postby Hannie » Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:01 pm

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Someone with relative power, money, and status.....Is my guess. Who knows how to "clean up" messes.....


Elvis tells me this stuff in dreams. Are you cheating with Elvis?


I love Elvis, and he visits me regularly, but sometimes i`m so tired, that I have to ask him to come back later..... :lol: :lol:
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Re: Arubagirl translation of Jossy Editorial Aug 7th

Postby mailou » Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:21 pm

sunmoonstars wrote:In the meanwhile, in Curaçao the sentence awarding Paulus a sum of 50,000.00 florins was not well received by a Minister and the Police officials who have been in the same experience of a temporary detention, but who were awarded by insignificant amounts such as afl. 700.00 or afl. 7,000.00 while Paulus received the gift of afl. 50,000.00 from the pocket of the Aruban People!.


Is it just me or does this say that a Minister and Police officials were illegally detained, at some time and are, basically, jealous because Paul got more money than they did?
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Re: Arubagirl translation of Jossy Editorial Aug 7th

Postby JD » Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:23 pm

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sunmoonstars wrote:In the meanwhile, in Curaçao the sentence awarding Paulus a sum of 50,000.00 florins was not well received by a Minister and the Police officials who have been in the same experience of a temporary detention, but who were awarded by insignificant amounts such as afl. 700.00 or afl. 7,000.00 while Paulus received the gift of afl. 50,000.00 from the pocket of the Aruban People!.


Is it just me or does this say that a Minister and Police officials were illegally detained, at some time and are, basically, jealous because Paul got more money than they did?


lol That's the way I read it.
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Postby Dilbart » Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:30 pm

I do find it rather strange that Paul received such a large amount of money because of his three day detention.

I don't know what the 'policy' in Aruba is, but in the Netherlands a 'cleared suspect' receives about $ 110,00 for every day he/she was in detention.

Since Paul was in jail for a couple of days, it seems to be a rather large amount of money to me.
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Postby MF » Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:11 pm

Dilbart wrote:I do find it rather strange that Paul received such a large amount of money because of his three day detention.

I don't know what the 'policy' in Aruba is, but in the Netherlands a 'cleared suspect' receives about $ 110,00 for every day he/she was in detention.

Since Paul was in jail for a couple of days, it seems to be a rather large amount of money to me.


That is true, but he asked for damages (daño y perhuicio), which he endured because of the detention, and the maximum is around the Afls. 50.000,- Remember there was loss of income, reputation damage and privacy loss that ended that he can not be considered to finish his career as a judge.

I know some cases in which people who have been given the same amount for different other motives.

ETA: Jossy's comments that this not has happened is just a LIE. Indeed if you ask for compensation for days spent in jail, the amount will be small, if you ask for damages based on that, it can go up to Afls. 50.000,- So another LIE.
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Postby justamom » Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:12 pm

Dilbart wrote:I do find it rather strange that Paul received such a large amount of money because of his three day detention.

I don't know what the 'policy' in Aruba is, but in the Netherlands a 'cleared suspect' receives about $ 110,00 for every day he/she was in detention.

Since Paul was in jail for a couple of days, it seems to be a rather large amount of money to me.


Maybe they took into account the slander and lies told about him and his family?
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Postby Glenda » Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:32 pm

BLOGS FOR NATALEE helped Paulus with his suit against the government.

They hosted the video where Ms. KJ discussed the "No Body, No Case" Plain and simple No! No!
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Postby pausebreak » Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:49 pm

Glenda wrote:BLOGS FOR NATALEE helped Paulus with his suit against the government.

They hosted the video where Ms. KJ discussed the "No Body, No Case" Plain and simple No! No!


well damn, those BunchaF'ingNutters did something good afterall

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Postby Glenda » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:41 pm

pausebreak wrote:
Glenda wrote:BLOGS FOR NATALEE helped Paulus with his suit against the government.

They hosted the video where Ms. KJ discussed the "No Body, No Case" Plain and simple No! No!


well damn, those BunchaF'ingNutters did something good afterall

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Yep, caught red handed on BFN - it is inevitable. And thanks to all of the early transcripts on BFN and SM, Paulus was able to show the court without a doubt that he had been slandered beyond repair after being arrested without a valid cause.
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Postby MF » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:44 pm

Glenda wrote:
pausebreak wrote:
Glenda wrote:BLOGS FOR NATALEE helped Paulus with his suit against the government.

They hosted the video where Ms. KJ discussed the "No Body, No Case" Plain and simple No! No!


well damn, those BunchaF'ingNutters did something good afterall

Image


Yep, caught red handed on BFN - it is inevitable. And thanks to all of the early transcripts on BFN and SM, Paulus was able to show the court without a doubt that he had been slandered beyond repair after being arrested without a valid cause.


Can someone provide the link to this video or host it somewhere, for those who keep using that as a fact for slander or just to ask stupid questions?
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Postby Heli » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:45 pm

Glenda wrote:
pausebreak wrote:
Glenda wrote:BLOGS FOR NATALEE helped Paulus with his suit against the government.

They hosted the video where Ms. KJ discussed the "No Body, No Case" Plain and simple No! No!


well damn, those BunchaF'ingNutters did something good afterall

Image


Yep, caught red handed on BFN - it is inevitable. And thanks to all of the early transcripts on BFN and SM, Paulus was able to show the court without a doubt that he had been slandered beyond repair after being arrested without a valid cause.

:lol: :lol: So, the old adage is shown to be true once again:

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Postby jmo » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:47 pm

Glenda wrote:
Glenda wrote:BLOGS FOR NATALEE helped Paulus with his suit against the government.

They hosted the video where Ms. KJ discussed the "No Body, No Case" Plain and simple No! No!

Yep, caught red handed on BFN - it is inevitable. And thanks to all of the early transcripts on BFN and SM, Paulus was able to show the court without a doubt that he had been slandered beyond repair after being arrested without a valid cause.

HAHAHAHAAA!!! I Love it! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Glenda » Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:05 pm

MF wrote:
Glenda wrote:
pausebreak wrote:
Glenda wrote:BLOGS FOR NATALEE helped Paulus with his suit against the government.

They hosted the video where Ms. KJ discussed the "No Body, No Case" Plain and simple No! No!


well damn, those BunchaF'ingNutters did something good afterall

Image


Yep, caught red handed on BFN - it is inevitable. And thanks to all of the early transcripts on BFN and SM, Paulus was able to show the court without a doubt that he had been slandered beyond repair after being arrested without a valid cause.


Can someone provide the link to this video or host it somewhere, for those who keep using that as a fact for slander or just to ask stupid questions?


MF, KJ gave the reasons on (MS)NBC why Paulus was arrested, on tape for the world to see and hear. As it turns out, they were trumped up charges to get Joran to crack and confess to a crime that there is no indication that even happened -- the problem is, it didn't work and backfired by 50,000 florins and what ever else it cost the state to punish him for something he clearly had nothing to do with other than be the father of the last known person to be 'seen' with Natalee.

The link should be a BFN -- if you can't find it there the ALE has a copy.
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Postby statinmyopinion2 » Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:07 pm

HannieC wrote:
DiamondDot wrote:
HannieC wrote:
Someone with relative power, money, and status.....Is my guess. Who knows how to "clean up" messes.....


Elvis tells me this stuff in dreams. Are you cheating with Elvis?


I love Elvis, and he visits me regularly, but sometimes i`m so tired, that I have to ask him to come back later..... :lol: :lol:



Well I have a true story to share with you all. We used to live in Midland, Michigan. Once I was driving down a road, in Midland, I had to do a double take..at a man that was outside, in his yard. I thought OMG, Its ELVIS. No lie.
This man LOOKS exactly LIKE elvis....

Well to make a long story short, My daughters joined the Pom Pom team, and HE was THERE with his daughter. I started up a conversation with him....and He works for Dow Chemical Company in Midland. However.........HE was the ONE that TABLOIDS took pictures of in Kalamazoo Michigan. Seems he went to visit his son, who was at a college near by...and some woman started taking pictures of him in the supermarket there. HIS face ended up on all the TABLOIDS..that ELVIS WAS ALIVE and LIVING in Kalamazoo Michigan. This man, looks like an older version of Elvis, and can SING exactly like him. He sang a couple songs of Elvis and sounded just like him. He said, that its both luck and a curse to look like Elvis...because he says, sometimes its just hard to lead a normal life. One time he said he went to Graceland, to visit the kings home..and people were thinking THEY seen Elvis' ghost!!
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Postby MF » Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:51 pm

Glenda wrote:
MF wrote:
Glenda wrote:
pausebreak wrote:
Glenda wrote:BLOGS FOR NATALEE helped Paulus with his suit against the government.

They hosted the video where Ms. KJ discussed the "No Body, No Case" Plain and simple No! No!


well damn, those BunchaF'ingNutters did something good afterall

Image


Yep, caught red handed on BFN - it is inevitable. And thanks to all of the early transcripts on BFN and SM, Paulus was able to show the court without a doubt that he had been slandered beyond repair after being arrested without a valid cause.


Can someone provide the link to this video or host it somewhere, for those who keep using that as a fact for slander or just to ask stupid questions?


MF, KJ gave the reasons on (MS)NBC why Paulus was arrested, on tape for the world to see and hear. As it turns out, they were trumped up charges to get Joran to crack and confess to a crime that there is no indication that even happened -- the problem is, it didn't work and backfired by 50,000 florins and what ever else it cost the state to punish him for something he clearly had nothing to do with other than be the father of the last known person to be 'seen' with Natalee.

The link should be a BFN -- if you can't find it there the ALE has a copy.


Thanks, that should be easier than getting onto the hate site. :wink:
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Postby Glenda » Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:54 pm

MF wrote:
Glenda wrote:
MF wrote:
Glenda wrote:
pausebreak wrote:
Glenda wrote:BLOGS FOR NATALEE helped Paulus with his suit against the government.

They hosted the video where Ms. KJ discussed the "No Body, No Case" Plain and simple No! No!


well damn, those BunchaF'ingNutters did something good afterall

Image


Yep, caught red handed on BFN - it is inevitable. And thanks to all of the early transcripts on BFN and SM, Paulus was able to show the court without a doubt that he had been slandered beyond repair after being arrested without a valid cause.


Can someone provide the link to this video or host it somewhere, for those who keep using that as a fact for slander or just to ask stupid questions?


MF, KJ gave the reasons on (MS)NBC why Paulus was arrested, on tape for the world to see and hear. As it turns out, they were trumped up charges to get Joran to crack and confess to a crime that there is no indication that even happened -- the problem is, it didn't work and backfired by 50,000 florins and what ever else it cost the state to punish him for something he clearly had nothing to do with other than be the father of the last known person to be 'seen' with Natalee.

The link should be a BFN -- if you can't find it there the ALE has a copy.


Thanks, that should be easier than getting onto the hate site. :wink:


BFN gave out Julia's address, she might have it on her hard drive. Who knows, Well, if, You Know, the ALE and everyone else on Aruba is on vacation. :wink:
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Postby pathenry » Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:00 pm

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HannieC wrote:Maybe Gee`s father knows Jossy fairly well and vice versa......
I heard it`s one tough cookie that father of Gee.....


Well, Jossy seemed to have a fear for his own personal safety, IMO.

The more HMI tries to blame someone else, the more guilty HMI seems.

Who would the Twittys have contacted to coverup an OD by Natalee, which had been witnessed by some MBers?

MedJet only requires the client is admitted into a hospital. The nature of the illness does not matter. So, that means it's only a matter of paperwork. The actual location of the persopn being transported by MedJet doesn't matter either. As long as they have the hospital admission papers.

Who would have the clout in Aruba to acquire the hospital admission documentation, without Natalee actually being present?


Someone who will eventually get to go to Miami for health reasons later on in the case who had heretofore been denied entry into the U.S.?
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Postby Siddalee » Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:07 pm

pathenry wrote:
DiamondDot wrote:
HannieC wrote:Maybe Gee`s father knows Jossy fairly well and vice versa......
I heard it`s one tough cookie that father of Gee.....


Well, Jossy seemed to have a fear for his own personal safety, IMO.

The more HMI tries to blame someone else, the more guilty HMI seems.

Who would the Twittys have contacted to coverup an OD by Natalee, which had been witnessed by some MBers?

MedJet only requires the client is admitted into a hospital. The nature of the illness does not matter. So, that means it's only a matter of paperwork. The actual location of the persopn being transported by MedJet doesn't matter either. As long as they have the hospital admission papers.

Who would have the clout in Aruba to acquire the hospital admission documentation, without Natalee actually being present?


Someone who will eventually get to go to Miami for health reasons later on in the case who had heretofore been denied entry into the U.S.?


I do believe someone very high up in MedJet is a family friend in MB and possibly they were able to go around some of the rules. Typically you would not see a MedJet on the tarmac of a foreign airport for a couple of days so I think several rules were bent.
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Postby acala » Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:03 am

Jossy should be thinking about the rules concerning manufacturing evidence and creating witnesses, and the cost to Aruba for investigating same, like the draining of the salina, etc., rather than worrying about the Van der Sloots impact on Aruba in this investigation.
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Postby DiamondDot » Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:16 am

pathenry wrote:
Someone who will eventually get to go to Miami for health reasons later on in the case who had heretofore been denied entry into the U.S.?


I have very limited knowlege of Aruba and its' caste system.

If a visa or passport is restricted for some reason, isn't it an official legal process to have it reinstated?
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Postby DiamondDot » Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:18 am

acala wrote:Jossy should be thinking about the rules concerning manufacturing evidence and creating witnesses, and the cost to Aruba for investigating same, like the draining of the salina, etc., rather than worrying about the Van der Sloots impact on Aruba in this investigation.


'...draining of the salina...'

I don't understand this term. Could you explain please?
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Postby Fiery » Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:22 am

sa·li·na Pronunciation (s-ln, -l-)
n.
1. A salt marsh, spring, pond, or lake.
2. An area of land encrusted with salt.
3. A saltworks.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Salina
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Postby DiamondDot » Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:10 am

Fiery wrote:sa·li·na Pronunciation (s-ln, -l-)
n.
1. A salt marsh, spring, pond, or lake.
2. An area of land encrusted with salt.
3. A saltworks.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Salina


Thanks Fiery. But, I don't understand the specific reference to Jossy. Do you know what they were referring to?
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Postby Fiery » Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:12 am

DiamondDot wrote:
Fiery wrote:sa·li·na Pronunciation (s-ln, -l-)
n.
1. A salt marsh, spring, pond, or lake.
2. An area of land encrusted with salt.
3. A saltworks.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Salina


Thanks Fiery. But, I don't understand the specific reference to Jossy. Do you know what they were referring to?


I thought they were referring to the pumping out of that pond where the water from the sea kept coming back in....remember people said that "someone", wonder who? wanted to build there and needed to know what kind of problems would be faced in draining that pond...so it was a win for the someone, they found out that it would be difficult to prevent the sea from replenishing the pond.
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Postby Hannie » Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:05 am

statinmyopinion2 wrote:
HannieC wrote:
DiamondDot wrote:
HannieC wrote:
Someone with relative power, money, and status.....Is my guess. Who knows how to "clean up" messes.....


Elvis tells me this stuff in dreams. Are you cheating with Elvis?


I love Elvis, and he visits me regularly, but sometimes i`m so tired, that I have to ask him to come back later..... :lol: :lol:



Well I have a true story to share with you all. We used to live in Midland, Michigan. Once I was driving down a road, in Midland, I had to do a double take..at a man that was outside, in his yard. I thought OMG, Its ELVIS. No lie.
This man LOOKS exactly LIKE elvis....

Well to make a long story short, My daughters joined the Pom Pom team, and HE was THERE with his daughter. I started up a conversation with him....and He works for Dow Chemical Company in Midland. However.........HE was the ONE that TABLOIDS took pictures of in Kalamazoo Michigan. Seems he went to visit his son, who was at a college near by...and some woman started taking pictures of him in the supermarket there. HIS face ended up on all the TABLOIDS..that ELVIS WAS ALIVE and LIVING in Kalamazoo Michigan. This man, looks like an older version of Elvis, and can SING exactly like him. He sang a couple songs of Elvis and sounded just like him. He said, that its both luck and a curse to look like Elvis...because he says, sometimes its just hard to lead a normal life. One time he said he went to Graceland, to visit the kings home..and people were thinking THEY seen Elvis' ghost!!


LMAO! :lol:

Poor guy!
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