Ashley79 May 31, 2005

[jenna]

ashley79-may 31
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ashley79
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Posted on: 1:37 pm, May 31, 2005 Report inappropriate post

Just wanted to warn everyone:
My best friend and her husband chaperoned a senior trip of 160 kids down to Aruba, and she returned last night. Her husband had to stay b/c they think that one of the girls was kidnapped, and is possibly in Venezuela now. Her parents flew down, and the State Dept., DEA and several other groups are involved now. She left with a guy from Carlos and Charlie's, and the cops found out that he is a local drug dealer. Just wanted to let everyone know to please stay safe. If anyone in Aruba has any info., please let me know. I should know more later today. Just please say a prayer.

ashley79
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Posted on: 4:05 pm, May 31, 2005 Report inappropriate post

There were about 12 chaperones there, some of them were there at the bar, but didn't notice the incident, and no one came to tell them. She left willingly, the guy told her that he was on vacation from Holland, he turned out to be a local.

ashley79
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Posted on: 6:30 pm, May 31, 2005 Report inappropriate post

Just wanted to update everyone:
Her parents are in Aruba passing out flyers, and some people have reportedly seen her walking around with a big group of guys, and she looks really drugged up.

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We know that someone representing Mountain Brook notified the State Department on June 1, 2005 that Natalee Holloway had been kidnapped. As the request of Sen. Bacchus, the FBI was notified and actively searching by June 2. Natalee Holloway was mentioned at a State Department briefing on June 3, 2005. What went on that this group of Mountain Brook parents had the audacity to go a Senator and the State Department regarding a legal adult over age 18 who had been out drinking at a bar and has not been seen for not even 48 hours when the State Department was recruited to help. Who wouldn't just die of embarrassment if your daughter was merely shacked up with some local romeo?

The Med Jet arrived on Thursday, June 2 or Friday June 3 and departed on Sat. June 4 or Sun June 5). (Waiting for confirmation) Friday, June 3 was Beth Twitty press conference at a hotel suite. By Sat, June 4, an AP reporter was erronerous reporting that the three boys, Joran, Deepak and Satish had admitted to all three having sex with her. The AP removed that from the initial report but a tabloid paper in New York picked up the AP report as originally stated and printed it.

[As per Glenda

Glenda Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:23 pm on p. 4 of Family knew she was alive? May 31, June 1, June 2 events

http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/viewtopic.php?t=3600

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My remember it arriving on Friday night and leaving on Sunday morning. I will try and get the exact details to add to the timeline, opps, that I posted somewhere else.


That would make the medjet arrival on Friday, June 3rd (the day after the visit to the "location" by Angela's husband and one of the Fab's per the friend who phoned) and a departure on Sunday, June 5th all in 2005. ]

The FBI will not go to a foreign country unless there is clear evidence of the type of crime that involves international cooperation. Kidnapping with the intent to take Natalee from Aruba to another country would be justification. Thus, Senator Bacchus early statement about this case being unusual. Why did Mountain Brook need US assistance just to find Natalee? That would be better done by the ALE. There are over 40 languages spoken on Aruba. Obviously, they did not send an FBI agent fluent in Dutch, Papiemento, English, and Spanish. An FBI agent would have no idea about the various neighborhoods on Aruba and who lived there.

Hypothetically: Sometimes I think that it is possible that Natalee left on that MedJet and MB was desperately trying to remove her body without Aruba having the right to an autopsy. What did Natalee get herself into on Aruba that required such high level help?

[all10suspects]

Becuase Natalee's mother and her friends have always know for Natalee
to be on time and never late for anything. So for Natalee to miss her flight
home would be a big deal. If it turned out as you say that she was with someone they would be embrassed but at least they would have their daughter. As we now know it did not matter what the family did because
more than likely Natalee was already dead or taken off the island before the family arrived.

[gagal_05]

Becuase Natalee's mother and her friends have always know for Natalee
to be on time and never late for anything. So for Natalee to miss her flight
home would be a big deal. If it turned out as you say that she was with someone they would be embrassed but at least they would have their daughter. As we now know it did not matter what the family did because
more than likely Natalee was already dead or taken off the island before the family arrived.

Yeah, yeah - that is what Beth & co said about Natalee and her promptness. We don't even know if that is true now, as so much of what they said has not been true.

We don't KNOW that Natalee was more than likely anything, because there is not any evidence of what really happened other than she left C&Cs!

[MF]

Becuase Natalee's mother and her friends have always know for Natalee
to be on time and never late for anything. So for Natalee to miss her flight
home would be a big deal. If it turned out as you say that she was with someone they would be embrassed but at least they would have their daughter. As we now know it did not matter what the family did because
more than likely Natalee was already dead or taken off the island before the family arrived.

So what is your opinion on the fact that Beth immediately called for it as kidnapping and for days on local TV, radio stations and her flyers where she was asking her daughter to contact her so they would be able to work things out?

[MJTenn]

Just took a quick read here...BUT I have never seen confirmation of the dates when the Medjet actually was in Aruba, if at all. The only Medjet reference I have ever heard was Beth saying that it cost $36,000 to have the Medjet sitting on the tarmac for two days. She did not say WHEN these two days were, or WHERE the jet was sitting on the tarmac. Was it in Aruba? Or sitting on the tarmac in US, ready to take off when called?

Not trying to be icky about a link here, BUT unless I have missed something big, we have never had confirmation about that jet. I'd really like some more info on this, as I am VERY interested in the "rescue" from the crack house that has been discussed on the board. (This is on one of Lazlo's threads from a month or so ago.)

Your post states it as a fact...do you have more info on this? tia

[PufPuf93]

Eric Williams was with chaperone Lilly during the period between Natalee going missing and arrival of the group of adults from AL arriving by private jet and locating the VDS home.

Eric Williams has been described as ex-DEA on vacation with son at the HI, DEA, "friend of the family" (Kelly court filing), and "we didn't know he was an American until July(Jug).

An Eric Williams of the DEA can be located on the internet as attending conferences and the like as a DEA PR person.

According to the two Paulus VDS PV's leaked to the various forums, Williams was:

(1) With the group from Alabama at the initial group that went to the VDS home.

(2) PVDS identified Williams as being FBI (so must have been told this).

(3) Williams took Joran aside (similar to Charles Croes taking Joran aside) and talked to Joran privately that first night.

I tend to believe that Williams (conspicuous in his absense from the media, leaked statements, or pictures) is an individual that knows something and, if retired even, has ties to the USA law enforcement and intelligence communities.

Was Williams acting in an official capacity or was the Williams connection just by happenstance?

Could whomever has access to the various statements please leak any statements by Williams?

Also I would like to see the statements made by the Alabama adults that went to Aruba that were made to an American federal judge.

Maybe Natalee gone missing has nothing to do with what Natalee did.

[PufPuf93]

Becuase Natalee's mother and her friends have always know for Natalee
to be on time and never late for anything. So for Natalee to miss her flight
home would be a big deal. If it turned out as you say that she was with someone they would be embrassed but at least they would have their daughter. As we now know it did not matter what the family did because
more than likely Natalee was already dead or taken off the island before the family arrived.

I think the big deal was none of Natelee's friends, former classmates, not chaperones knew where Natalee was when they checked into customs and left Aruba.

Most recognize that Natalee was not unlike other teens with the opportunity to get wild, in that Natalee went wild and left a bar with three essentially strangers in a foreign country.

From FBI 302 statements, we know that the night prior to Natalee going missing one of her classmates took her back to the HI from C&Cs because Natalee became too intoxicated.

There is nothing to support the portion of your statement that is bolded except biased speculation.

[resigned]

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ashley79
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Posted on: 1:37 pm, May 31, 2005 Report inappropriate post

Just wanted to warn everyone:
My best friend and her husband chaperoned a senior trip of 160 kids down to Aruba, and she returned last night. Her husband had to stay b/c they think that one of the girls was kidnapped, and is possibly in Venezuela now. Her parents flew down, and the State Dept., DEA and several other groups are involved now. She left with a guy from Carlos and Charlie's, and the cops found out that he is a local drug dealer. Just wanted to let everyone know to please stay safe. If anyone in Aruba has any info., please let me know. I should know more later today. Just please say a prayer.

ashley79
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Posted on: 4:05 pm, May 31, 2005 Report inappropriate post

There were about 12 chaperones there, some of them were there at the bar, but didn't notice the incident, and no one came to tell them. She left willingly, the guy told her that he was on vacation from Holland, he turned out to be a local.

ashley79
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Posted on: 6:30 pm, May 31, 2005 Report inappropriate post

Just wanted to update everyone:
Her parents are in Aruba passing out flyers, and some people have reportedly seen her walking around with a big group of guys, and she looks really drugged up.

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We know that someone representing Mountain Brook notified the State Department on June 1, 2005 that Natalee Holloway had been kidnapped. As the request of Sen. Bacchus, the FBI was notified and actively searching by June 2. Natalee Holloway was mentioned at a State Department briefing on June 3, 2005. What went on that this group of Mountain Brook parents had the audacity to go a Senator and the State Department regarding a legal adult over age 18 who had been out drinking at a bar and has not been seen for not even 48 hours when the State Department was recruited to help. Who wouldn't just die of embarrassment if your daughter was merely shacked up with some local romeo?

The Med Jet arrived on Thursday, June 2 and department on Sat. June 4. Friday, June 3 was Beth Twitty press conference at a hotel suite. By Sat, June 4, an AP reporter was erronerous reporting that the three boys, Joran, Deepak and Satish had admitted to all three having sex with her. The AP removed that from the initial report but a tabloid paper in New York picked up the AP report as originally stated and printed it.

The FBI will not go to a foreign country unless there is clear evidence of the type of crime that involves international cooperation. Kidnapping with the intent to take Natalee from Aruba to another country would be justification. Thus, Senator Bacchus early statement about this case being unusual. Why did Mountain Brook need US assistance just to find Natalee? That would be better done by the ALE. There are over 40 languages spoken on Aruba. Obviously, they did not send an FBI agent fluent in Dutch, Papiemento, English, and Spanish. An FBI agent would have no idea about the various neighborhoods on Aruba and who lived there.

Hypothetically: Sometimes I think that it is possible that Natalee left on that MedJet and MB was desperately trying to remove her body without Aruba having the right to an autopsy. What did Natalee get herself into on Aruba that required such high level help?

MedJet



Zoom Zoom

[victims cry]

this may not be a popular opinion, but as a firm believer in KISS (keep it simple stupid) thinking, the fact that jug was friends with a medjet executive explains why they had the jet there. Just in case. Unlike you or me or most ppl obviously we would need to go through hoops to get it there. That it was a private plane available through McWane makes sense to me. as a way to help/support in case she was found and injured or in trouble.

that jug and beth and the mb'ers are a bunch of assholes i agree with

[SavannahStar]

Just took a quick read here...BUT I have never seen confirmation of the dates when the Medjet actually was in Aruba, if at all. The only Medjet reference I have ever heard was Beth saying that it cost $36,000 to have the Medjet sitting on the tarmac for two days. She did not say WHEN these two days were, or WHERE the jet was sitting on the tarmac. Was it in Aruba? Or sitting on the tarmac in US, ready to take off when called?

Snipped a bit of your post, MJ, just to respond to that portion. I think it was Arubagirl who verified that the MedJet was indeed there. Not sure if the dates were mentioned though. Maybe someone could search for that post.

[sandraK]

this may not be a popular opinion, but as a firm believer in KISS (keep it simple stupid) thinking, the fact that jug was friends with a medjet executive explains why they had the jet there. Just in case. Unlike you or me or most ppl obviously we would need to go through hoops to get it there. That it was a private plane available through McWane makes sense to me. as a way to help/support in case she was found and injured or in trouble.

that jug and beth and the mb'ers are a bunch of assholes i agree with

Agreed.

**VC..your PUSSY**

[PufPuf93]

this may not be a popular opinion, but as a firm believer in KISS (keep it simple stupid) thinking, the fact that jug was friends with a medjet executive explains why they had the jet there. Just in case. Unlike you or me or most ppl obviously we would need to go through hoops to get it there. That it was a private plane available through McWane makes sense to me. as a way to help/support in case she was found and injured or in trouble.

that jug and beth and the mb'ers are a bunch of assholes i agree with

VC

I don't see why that would be an unpopular opinion as the connections seem fairly obvious to me. Nall is Fab 7 and Whatley's grandfather.

Most people don't have access to people who own or control private, corporate, or medical evaculation jet aircraft.

There must be some sort of record for the % of high school graduations going to Aruba on a non-school sponsored graduation trip with access to private jets.

I think it would be interesting to have the complete history and passenger manifests of any private jets from Alabama (Jernigan, Corrie/Byrd, McWane, etc.) for the period June 2004 through December 2005. It would also be interesting to see if any of the characters we have seen in the last 18 months ever traveled to or from Aruba on US military or Le aircraft.

[victims cry]

this may not be a popular opinion, but as a firm believer in KISS (keep it simple stupid) thinking, the fact that jug was friends with a medjet executive explains why they had the jet there. Just in case. Unlike you or me or most ppl obviously we would need to go through hoops to get it there. That it was a private plane available through McWane makes sense to me. as a way to help/support in case she was found and injured or in trouble.

that jug and beth and the mb'ers are a bunch of assholes i agree with

VC

I don't see why that would be an unpopular opinion as the connections seem fairly obvious to me. Nall is Fab 7 and Whatley's grandfather.

Most people don't have access to people who own or control private, corporate, or medical evaculation jet aircraft.

There must be some sort of record for the % of high school graduations going to Aruba on a non-school sponsored graduation trip with access to private jets.

I think it would be interesting to have the complete history and passenger manifests of any private jets from Alabama (Jernigan, Corrie/Byrd, McWane, etc.) for the period June 2004 through December 2005. It would also be interesting to see if any of the characters we have seen in the last 18 months ever traveled to or from Aruba on US military or Le aircraft.

the not popular part, is that i dont think its indicative of some prior knowledge of what happened to natalee or anything sinister. Just a family who happened to have a friend who could give access to a medjet, and since they didnt know what happened.. an injured or kidnapped natalee was a possibility. Doubt i would have refused the offer of a medjet on hand, if it was me. Just in case she was found beaten, or drugged or kidnapped.

simply not a big issue in my mind, and means nothing more than they have a friend who could put the jet there. IF she had been found in bad shape, obviously any parent would want her back home asap gettign the best medical care they could arrange. that would include jumping at the chance to have an air ambulance on hand.

There is so much that is bizarre bout beth and what she did, but this isn't one of them to me. Rather her insistence that K2J raped, kidnapped and murdered her daughter is. Lying bitch

[jenna]

this may not be a popular opinion, but as a firm believer in KISS (keep it simple stupid) thinking, the fact that jug was friends with a medjet executive explains why they had the jet there. Just in case. Unlike you or me or most ppl obviously we would need to go through hoops to get it there. That it was a private plane available through McWane makes sense to me. as a way to help/support in case she was found and injured or in trouble.

that jug and beth and the mb'ers are a bunch of assholes i agree with

Considerations about MedJet:

1. Medical transport requires that the patient be hospitalized and medically cleared to travel by qualified physicians. Why sent a MedJet to wait on a tarmac when Natalee would have to go to a hospital first any way. If these are the rules established for the company by their insurance company, any violation of those rules invalidates the insurance policy and subjects Med Jet to being sued by an unhappy patients family and be liable for the damages.

2. Med Jet had to be compensated for their charges regardless of whether the Twitty's are friends or not. Somebody had to pay the corporation. That would be a very generous gift of a board member to that family.

No, something is very strange about sending a MedJet in violation of their rules. The reason would have to be VERY COMPELLING.

[victims cry]

jenna, i believe they did pay for it didnt they-or at least got a bill? either way 36k for us is a drop in the bucket for someone with millions. In fact, if she had been found, the repayment would be arranged as it is in any other case. even if she wasnt.

also, policies are broken daily, and the ones who can break them are the heads of corporations. I just cant imagine that McWane worried about "policy" when he had a jet available and a friend whose child might need it. They had been given statemetns that natalee "may be" in a crack house drugged. If i was a parent, or a friend of a parent with a missing daughter in that situation i cant imagine not breaking policy for them. I would get the plane cleared and on the tarmac in a heartbeat. no good waiting until she is found, when there was an indication she was in a crack house. you would want everything in place to get her on her way home to whatever medical treatment is needed. It could be anything from an overdose, to a raped and beaten child.

I agree the reason was compelling. A possibility that an injured, drugged or kidnapped child was in a crack house and they could get her out. That in itself is compelling. Both as humans and medically given that no one would think she is in great shape if she was there.

1. they heard she might be in a crack house
2. they dont think she is there willingly
3. they think they might be able to get her out
4. they arranged an air ambulance bc they were lucky enough to have a friend who could do it, and cut red tape.

[CancunMole]

Just took a quick read here...BUT I have never seen confirmation of the dates when the Medjet actually was in Aruba, if at all. The only Medjet reference I have ever heard was Beth saying that it cost $36,000 to have the Medjet sitting on the tarmac for two days. She did not say WHEN these two days were, or WHERE the jet was sitting on the tarmac. Was it in Aruba? Or sitting on the tarmac in US, ready to take off when called?

Not trying to be icky about a link here, BUT unless I have missed something big, we have never had confirmation about that jet. I'd really like some more info on this, as I am VERY interested in the "rescue" from the crack house that has been discussed on the board. (This is on one of Lazlo's threads from a month or so ago.)

Your post states it as a fact...do you have more info on this? tia

Glenda Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:23 pm on p. 4 of Family knew she was alive? May 31, June 1, June 2 events

http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/viewtopic.php?t=3600

My remember it arriving on Friday night and leaving on Sunday morning. I will try and get the exact details to add to the timeline, opps, that I posted somewhere else.

That would make the medjet arrival on Friday, June 3rd (the day after the visit to the "location" by Angela's husband and one of the Fab's per the friend who phoned) and a departure on Sunday, June 5th all in 2005.

[dugo]

I agree the reason was compelling. A possibility that an injured, drugged or kidnapped child was in a crack house and they could get her out. That in itself is compelling. Both as humans and medically given that no one would think she is in great shape if she was there.

1. they heard she might be in a crack house
2. they dont think she is there willingly
3. they think they might be able to get her out
4. they arranged an air ambulance bc they were lucky enough to have a friend who could do it, and cut red tape.

Very compelling if an Aruban hospital is not good enough for your daughter.

[jenna]

Just took a quick read here...BUT I have never seen confirmation of the dates when the Medjet actually was in Aruba, if at all. The only Medjet reference I have ever heard was Beth saying that it cost $36,000 to have the Medjet sitting on the tarmac for two days. She did not say WHEN these two days were, or WHERE the jet was sitting on the tarmac. Was it in Aruba? Or sitting on the tarmac in US, ready to take off when called?

Not trying to be icky about a link here, BUT unless I have missed something big, we have never had confirmation about that jet. I'd really like some more info on this, as I am VERY interested in the "rescue" from the crack house that has been discussed on the board. (This is on one of Lazlo's threads from a month or so ago.)

Your post states it as a fact...do you have more info on this? tia

Glenda Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:23 pm on p. 4 of Family knew she was alive? May 31, June 1, June 2 events

http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/viewtopic.php?t=3600

My remember it arriving on Friday night and leaving on Sunday morning. I will try and get the exact details to add to the timeline, opps, that I posted somewhere else.

That would make the medjet arrival on Friday, June 3rd (the day after the visit to the "location" by Angela's husband and one of the Fab's per the friend who phoned) and a departure on Sunday, June 5th all in 2005.

So nobody finds it strange that Jug borrows $3000 from Angela when he is on Aruba with several other Mountain Brook people AND THEN somebody sends a $37,000 Med Jet against the rules of the company which requires that the patient be in a hospital and cleared to travel by a physician.

[victims cry]

I agree the reason was compelling. A possibility that an injured, drugged or kidnapped child was in a crack house and they could get her out. That in itself is compelling. Both as humans and medically given that no one would think she is in great shape if she was there.

1. they heard she might be in a crack house
2. they dont think she is there willingly
3. they think they might be able to get her out
4. they arranged an air ambulance bc they were lucky enough to have a friend who could do it, and cut red tape.

Very compelling if an Aruban hospital is not good enough for your daughter.

I dont see that as an"aruban" issue.

Most people want their loved ones at home for medical care. And yes i think beth is a xenophobic bitch, but again, most of us want our loved ones at home. Especially in a unknown country in the sense of full knowledge of the level of expertise available, what if she needed a neurosurgeon etc.. or any other specialist. Italy has terrific doctors, but if you are vacationing there and something happens, you still want your loved one at home with doctors you know. Let alone the fact that pure logistics says we as a ppl are more comfortable when we are dealing in our own language over medical issues.

that i believe Aruban hospitals can handle anything doesn't mean i would know for sure how good every doctor is, how much equipment the hospital has until im in that situation.

There are times dugo, that even beth might react like a normal person

[Guest]

2. Med Jet had to be compensated for their charges regardless of whether the Twitty's are friends or not. Somebody had to pay the corporation. That would be a very generous gift of a board member to that family

I would think the pull of the friend was to release the jet without the requirement of a confirmed patient at the hospital with the expectation of reimbursement if there is no emergency.

The number looks okay: about $16,000 to $20,000 to charter a jet from Birmingham to Aruba. There and back for nothing, they'd pay this $37,000 back to the company.

The date can be cross-referenced with the interviews when everyone was searching 'crak houses' I believe the first week.

The real question is what spooked them into such drastic action. It is not like they do not know Aruba and what medical facilities they have. Moreso this bizarre fixation on drugs and drug dealers even before the girlie left. Recall the step-brother gave two pieces of advice before she left. Take pictures and beware of the drug dealers.

It can seem this child was problematic in both alcohol and drug consumption. Something these Mountain Brook children are quite well known for. Could it be that they thought she "lapsed". Too much emphasis on drugs in this show. The whole counter angel character building non drinker, the 5 year "faith healer" that turned out to be a "problem counselor".


October 31, 2005

VAN SUSTEREN: Beth, Chief Deputy Dompig is making some accusations about you, says you’re scamming money. What do you say about that?

TWITTY: Well, you know, Greta, it’s hard for me to even respond to that, but if I must, I would hope that Deputy Dompig realizes that we’re not flying family, friends and searchers in and out on brooms to Aruba. You know, we pay air fares. We pay hotel bills. We pay the exorbitant attorney fees, private investigators. You know, one sample of a bill was $37,000 to Medjet because we had the jet sitting on the tarmac for two days because that’s when we thought we were pulling Natalee out alive of one of their crakhouses, being held by a crack addict against her will. So you know, there have been some expenses that we have incurred during this investigatio

[CancunMole]

Just took a quick read here...BUT I have never seen confirmation of the dates when the Medjet actually was in Aruba, if at all. The only Medjet reference I have ever heard was Beth saying that it cost $36,000 to have the Medjet sitting on the tarmac for two days. She did not say WHEN these two days were, or WHERE the jet was sitting on the tarmac. Was it in Aruba? Or sitting on the tarmac in US, ready to take off when called?

Not trying to be icky about a link here, BUT unless I have missed something big, we have never had confirmation about that jet. I'd really like some more info on this, as I am VERY interested in the "rescue" from the crack house that has been discussed on the board. (This is on one of Lazlo's threads from a month or so ago.)

Your post states it as a fact...do you have more info on this? tia

Glenda Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:23 pm on p. 4 of Family knew she was alive? May 31, June 1, June 2 events

http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/viewtopic.php?t=3600

My remember it arriving on Friday night and leaving on Sunday morning. I will try and get the exact details to add to the timeline, opps, that I posted somewhere else.

That would make the medjet arrival on Friday, June 3rd (the day after the visit to the "location" by Angela's husband and one of the Fab's per the friend who phoned) and a departure on Sunday, June 5th all in 2005.

So nobody finds it strange that Jug borrows $3000 from Angela when he is on Aruba with several other Mountain Brook people AND THEN somebody sends a $37,000 Med Jet against the rules of the company which requires that the patient be in a hospital and cleared to travel by a physician.

IF it had been thought that all that was needed was a quick trip down and their presence/intimidation made known to the missing one to get her to come out and go home, then I can see why not alot of cash might have been brought along initially. IMO, this is what was thought.

A guess would be too that the use of a medjet usually does not require an up-front cash payment (insurance claims) and having friends "connected" directly to it probably got the usual hospital/physician requirements lifted.

[MJTenn]

Just took a quick read here...BUT I have never seen confirmation of the dates when the Medjet actually was in Aruba, if at all. The only Medjet reference I have ever heard was Beth saying that it cost $36,000 to have the Medjet sitting on the tarmac for two days. She did not say WHEN these two days were, or WHERE the jet was sitting on the tarmac. Was it in Aruba? Or sitting on the tarmac in US, ready to take off when called?

Not trying to be icky about a link here, BUT unless I have missed something big, we have never had confirmation about that jet. I'd really like some more info on this, as I am VERY interested in the "rescue" from the crack house that has been discussed on the board. (This is on one of Lazlo's threads from a month or so ago.)

Your post states it as a fact...do you have more info on this? tia

Glenda Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:23 pm on p. 4 of Family knew she was alive? May 31, June 1, June 2 events

http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/viewtopic.php?t=3600

My remember it arriving on Friday night and leaving on Sunday morning. I will try and get the exact details to add to the timeline, opps, that I posted somewhere else.

That would make the medjet arrival on Friday, June 3rd (the day after the visit to the "location" by Angela's husband and one of the Fab's per the friend who phoned) and a departure on Sunday, June 5th all in 2005.

So nobody finds it strange that Jug borrows $3000 from Angela when he is on Aruba with several other Mountain Brook people AND THEN somebody sends a $37,000 Med Jet against the rules of the company which requires that the patient be in a hospital and cleared to travel by a physician.

Yes, I have always found that strange. ALWAYS. Plus, I have a vague memory of one of the articles we've seen talking about the Twittys taking some cash to Aruba. VF maybe? I am out of town and don't have my magazine. What happened to THAT cash (if I'm right about this)?

[MJTenn]

Ok, at the risk of being run off the board, I'm going to ask a question I have wondered about for quite some time.

I do see that "Glenda" posted about the medjet. My problem is...there was a while there that I was not on this board very much, and I believe this is when Glenda joined. I have gathered from her posts that she is someone in Aruba?

Are we to consider Glenda a credible, reliable source? Is she in a position to know answers to these questions? I have no problem with that, none whatsoever, and appreciate that she will come here and report things and address issues. While we're at it, could someone please list the "recognized credible posters"?

Again, I do not mean to start any problems, but I am tired of not asking questions for fear of being "jumped."

[victims cry]

uhh yes, Glenda is definitely in a position to know

[chillin]

Ok, at the risk of being run off the board, I'm going to ask a question I have wondered about for quite some time.

I do see that "Glenda" posted about the medjet. My problem is...there was a while there that I was not on this board very much, and I believe this is when Glenda joined. I have gathered from her posts that she is someone in Aruba?

Are we to consider Glenda a credible, reliable source? Is she in a position to know answers to these questions? I have no problem with that, none whatsoever, and appreciate that she will come here and report things and address issues. While we're at it, could someone please list the "recognized credible posters"?

Again, I do not mean to start any problems, but I am tired of not asking questions for fear of being "jumped."

Im a credible poster sad thing is I don't know shit about the Natalee case