GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES!

[Looking Far]

I am shocked at how this guilty verdict has me feeling. I bawled my eyes out with Mr. McGowan as I heard him being declared to be GUILTY on all counts, including aggravated rape, etc.

Just as angry as I was when OJ was found not guilty, is how angry I am with this man being found guilty. I never expected to feel this strongly; but it bothers me to see yet another injustice against yet another black man.

Makes me think of Emmett Till ... how DARE you have sex with that good white woman? Anybody with any sense knows that she would have NEVER consented to have sex with a lowly BLACK garbageman, in the middle of her living room, with her baby asleep upstairs. A person of her caliber would have NEVER thought of having sex with one such as you ... yeah, right!

I'M MAD AS HELL ... and hopefully, although there is not much I can do except this quiet rage, somebody will step in make a difference.

[victims cry]

I am shocked at how this guilty verdict has me feeling. I bawled my eyes out with Mr. McGowan as I heard him being declared to be GUILTY on all counts, including aggravated rape, etc.

Just as angry as I was when OJ was found not guilty, is how angry I am with this man being found guilty. I never expected to feel this strongly; but it bothers me to see yet another injustice against yet another black man.

Makes me think of Emmett Till ... how DARE you have sex with that good white woman? Anybody with any sense knows that she would have NEVER consented to have sex with a lowly BLACK garbageman, in the middle of her living room, with her baby asleep upstairs. A person of her caliber would have NEVER thought of having sex with one such as you ... yeah, right!

I'M MAD AS HELL ... and hopefully, although there is not much I can do except this quiet rage, somebody will step in make a difference.

I am in total agreement with you Lookin. I just woke up, i couldnt sleep last night and heard it on fox and literally felt sick to my stomach and tears in my eyes. He did NOT DO THIS.

The reason i woke up, the guy to check my insert stove in the hearth for insurance company (they havent for 8 years but do now???) found this crazy woman opening the door with tears running down and a blotchy nose. I told him someone was found guilty in a murder and he thought i was a little odd

Seriously he did not do this. Then again, one witness was taken to jail the day after he testified for what should have been a ticket and he lying cop was involved in a juror being thrown off. Maybe a hung or acquittal was to scary for them

[Looking Far]

One of the biggest travesties of justice I have seen in a while. Sad commentary for race relations in the U.S. of A. Saaaaaad commentary.

How important do you think the dismissal of the other juror was? I would tend to think now that it was a lot more crucial than first expected.

[Danse Macabre]

I have not followed this case closely, I was too upset at just knowing how her toddler was founf trying to nurse her dead mom's body. Too emotional for me. But on Yahoo's front page it has this:

McCowen, a garbage man in the small town Truro, where Worthington lived, initially denied having any physical contact with her. But after police told him his DNA was found on her body, McCowen said they had consensual sex and he had beaten her, but he said his friend plunged the knife through her chest.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061116/ap_ ... od_slaying

Can someone explain to me why he's so innocent then? Why did he beat her?? Was he with his friend when his friend did the stabbing?

I don't uinderstand......I'm serious, and not being challenging, I truly have not followed the evidence but that paragraph doesn't elicit much sympathy from me. FWIW, I knew there was a garbage man charged, I did not know his race until just now.

[SavannahStar]

I have not followed this case closely, I was too upset at just knowing how her toddler was founf trying to nurse her dead mom's body. Too emotional for me. But on Yahoo's front page it has this:

McCowen, a garbage man in the small town Truro, where Worthington lived, initially denied having any physical contact with her. But after police told him his DNA was found on her body, McCowen said they had consensual sex and he had beaten her, but he said his friend plunged the knife through her chest.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061116/ap_ ... od_slaying

Can someone explain to me why he's so innocent then? Why did he beat her?? Was he with his friend when his friend did the stabbing?

I don't uinderstand......I'm serious, and not being challenging, I truly have not followed the evidence but that paragraph doesn't elicit much sympathy from me. FWIW, I knew there was a garbage man charged, I did not know his race until just now.

I see your point.....but something or other I read today said that stuff he told the police was misinterpreted or misrepresented or something....didn't catch it all. Maybe someone can fill us in on that? I really didn't follow this case much at all, other than I read the book about it a long time ago.

I know when I read about his conviction and saw his comments, and watched the tears in his eyes, I had a gut feeling he was truly innocent. I guess I just can't say more than that, not having really studied the case and the evidence. I'd like to learn more.

[Looking Far]

I am going to revisit this thread when I am less emotional. I WILL say this though, there was more evidence pointing to others, particularly the non-black DNA, deposited AFTER McCowan's consensual sex with her, than there was pointing to his guilt. Once they decided he was the guilty party, it was a done did, including his ALLEGED admission of hitting her.

[Highrise]

my feelings on this case seems somewhat fishy to me and i just can't seem to put my fingers on it, i do feel like murder in the first degree seemed harsh when there seemed me not enough evidence to prove that McGowan was the one that acutally did the stabbing,jmo.

[SavannahStar]

I am going to revisit this thread when I am less emotional. I WILL say this though, there was more evidence pointing to others, particularly the non-black DNA, deposited AFTER McCowan's consensual sex with her, than there was pointing to his guilt. Once they decided he was the guilty party, it was a done did, including his ALLEGED admission of hitting her.

Please do revisit the thread, LF, and fill us in a bit more.....at least me. I'm interested. I do know as I said above, I just had a real gut feeling that he's truly innocent. I could be wrong....I didn't follow the case. It broke my heart to see him in court today though.

[Highrise]

he did look like he was was truely innocent, and to me those were not fake tears. I was shocked when i heard the verdict

[tuesday]

When I heard this on CTV, I looked up and saw McGowan standing there in court, my first thought was "I'm sorry." I felt it. I don't think he did it, either.

[victims cry]

This case stinks to high heaven.

Something that speaks volumes is that the DA says he will have all the untested evidence, tested now (such as the semen found on her thigh that wasnt tested!) AFTER the verdict was reached.

Now if he thinks its so important to go and test what they ignored for years, dont you think he should have asked for a mistrial after McCowans attorney brought it all out? Doesn't that in itself say there is reasonable doubt at the least?

[Danse Macabre]

my feelings on this case seems somewhat fishy to me and i just can't seem to put my fingers on it, i do feel like murder in the first degree seemed harsh when there seemed me not enough evidence to prove that McGowan was the one that acutally did the stabbing,jmo.

I can understand and see this--it just seemed by people's reactions that a totally innocent man who was obviously innocent was convicted. I guess it's more like there is truly a reasonable doubt here.

The DNA from the sex doesn't prove anything to me- why couldn't that have been consensual? Doh, all it does is link him to her. I'd need to know his DNA was on the knife or something. I would need more than just THAT.

After what I have read I would probably, on what I know, have felt there was reasonable doubt.

[Danse Macabre]

This case stinks to high heaven.

Something that speaks volumes is that the DA says he will have all the untested evidence, tested now (such as the semen found on her thigh that wasnt tested!) AFTER the verdict was reached.

Now if he thinks its so important to go and test what they ignored for years, dont you think he should have asked for a mistrial after McCowans attorney brought it all out? Doesn't that in itself say there is reasonable doubt at the least?

Hell yes! I missed this....I had already came to a reasonable doubt, but THIS made me jump up out of my chair. UNTESTED evidence????? How is that okay!??

[victims cry]

all they really have is a untaped, unvideo'ed confession of 29 pages that Mason the cop gave verbatim on the stand (oh and typed up a week after the "confession".

it was a 6 hour confession, sould have been hundreds of pages, and we have all heard cops lead info to the suspect. Interestingly pro guilty ppl say McCowan gave to many details he couldnt have known.. but he gave ZERO details to things the cops didn't know. Such as where is the murder weapon? who took the clothes? all the things the cops didn't know were left out of his so called confession.

I don't know if he is the right man, personally i fully believe he is not. However either way this verdict went right against the tenet of reasonable doubt. I have never seen so many pro prosecution posters on ctv be against this verdict. Its rather amazing.

[Schmerty]

all they really have is a untaped, unvideo'ed confession of 29 pages that Mason the cop gave verbatim on the stand (oh and typed up a week after the "confession".

it was a 6 hour confession, sould have been hundreds of pages, and we have all heard cops lead info to the suspect. Interestingly pro guilty ppl say McCowan gave to many details he couldnt have known.. but he gave ZERO details to things the cops didn't know. Such as where is the murder weapon? who took the clothes? all the things the cops didn't know were left out of his so called confession.

I don't know if he is the right man, personally i fully believe he is not. However either way this verdict went right against the tenet of reasonable doubt. I have never seen so many pro prosecution posters on ctv be against this verdict. Its rather amazing.

I am so glad I saw this thread today. Yesterday I felt so alone & so hurt & frightened that this case that had soooooo much reasonable doubt could have a jury bring such a verdict. I am glad to see that there are those who question the evidence & the DA , the police, & the machination of the one holdout Juror who was dismissed under questionable circumstances. Thank you VC for the link to the thread"Whats wrong with this Case" I found it very revealing & SS& LF may find it helpful. The point is I think an innocent man has had his life taken away from him & I can live with not contributing in some way to an appeal exonerating him

[SavannahStar]

I don't know if he is the right man, personally i fully believe he is not. However either way this verdict went right against the tenet of reasonable doubt. I have never seen so many pro prosecution posters on ctv be against this verdict. Its rather amazing.

Quite true, VC. I was just reading over there a bit this morning. That's usually a "hang 'em high" crowd, that's for sure. Interesting.