The Marriott hotel pay phone

[billybob]

Glenda is a FAAAAAAAAAAAAAR more reliable poster then.. uh.. well.. you?

Truer words have never been spoken.

[Bongo]

You think so??? Oh my...how will I sleep tonight?

Polyester pyama? Illuminating your bed every time you turn?

NO.
I don't wanna know..

[minitess]

Why would the posters be in Spanish? This photo was taken in July 2005. Aruba is a Dutch island, the local language is Papiamento and nearly everyone speaks English. What's with the Spanish posters?

Maybe because of this?

On 7-21 LeJUEZ stated that there is human trafficking that occurs between ARUBA and SOUTH AMERICA, primarily, initially to VENEZELA, but he said “it is normally willingly by the person, such as prostitution.” LeJUEZ stated he cannot understand how someone could be taken alive from ARUBA against their will

On 7-21 FOX News reported:

<QUOTE>
VAN SUSTEREN: Tonight, the reward for information leading to the safe return of Natalee Holloway has been increased to $200,000. And there is a $100,000 reward for information about Natalee's whereabouts.
We're back with Natalee's mother, Beth Holloway Twitty. Beth, in terms of this reward, posters, you said, are going up. Have they actually been distributed around Aruba already?
TWITTY: Oh, Greta, this afternoon, some citizens and tourists, they gathered at the Windham lobby, and they took approximately 400 posters, and they didn't come back with any, Greta. So they came back just absolutely soaking wet with sweat, so I know they worked really hard this afternoon to get those out.
VAN SUSTEREN: Are they in English and in any other language?
TWITTY: They are. They're in English and Spanish.
VAN SUSTEREN: And is there a certain plan on how to distribute them, or do you just say, Here they are, go, just post them?
TWITTY: Well, we really kind of chose some people from different spots on the island. I had met a wonderful friend in San Nicolas and had another connection in another area of the island, and then, of course, tourists covered the hotel section. So it just worked out great. I know there's still a lot of areas that we can cover tomorrow and Saturday. And also, the Red Cross here in Aruba has just been I mean, they're always they're always ready. As soon as I call them, they show up at the lobby, and they're, What can we do, and, How many can we have? It doesn't seem like I can ever give them enough.

http://members.aol.com/WorldJOURNIER/NA ... 05_07.html


Or maybe because of this:

Dutch and the local language of Papiamento are the official languages of Aruba, but most Arubans speak a minimum of four languages including English and Spanish.
http://www.aruba.com/about/language.php

Quit trying to sling mud where it WILL NOT stick.

It's tiresome, childish, and obvious that you are STILL trying to discredit Natalee's family. You were figured out a long time ago - so just quit wasting your own time, and everyone else's.

[iquitos]

on the island are Dominicans and Colombians. There was speculation Natalee might have absconded/been taken to the mainland. glenda surely knows that. didn't julia help her print them?

[Glenda]

on the are Dominicans and Colombians. There was speculation Natalee might have absconded/been taken to the mainland. glenda surely knows that. didn't julia help her print them?

The Spanish posters were printed much later. It doesn't make sense since for the posters to be in Spanish as she went missing on a Dutch Island that speaks Papiamento, and English. Why Spanish?

[resigned]

The Spanish posters were printed much later. It doesn't make sense since for the posters to be in Spanish as she went missing on a Dutch Island that speaks Papiamento, and English. Why Spanish?

It not like they were written in Italian........... I thought that many Aruban's speak Pap and/or, Dutch, English, Spanish .......and countries that speak Spanish are in the area. Make sense to me....especially after the English local cel flyers didn't fetch much.

Do you think the case fell apart due to bad poster planning?

[henk]

It not like they were written in Italian........... I thought that many Aruban's speak Pap and/or, Dutch, English, Spanish .......and countries that speak Spanish are in the area. Make sense to me....especially after the English local cel flyers didn't fetch much.

Do you think the case fell apart due to bad poster planning?

Make sence to me too.. Especially because the rumor was she was kidnapped to be a sex slave in Venezuela.. Personally I would have made also a few in Dutch..

[minitess]

The Spanish posters were printed much later. It doesn't make sense since for the posters to be in Spanish as she went missing on a Dutch Island that speaks Papiamento, and English. Why Spanish?

Maybe you missed this part of my post, from the Aruba.com website:

Dutch and the local language of Papiamento are the official languages of Aruba, but most Arubans speak a minimum of four languages including English and Spanish.

http://www.aruba.com/about/language.php

It's you who is not making sense. I thought you lived on that island? I thought you were the local "in the know"? Surely you would know that MOST ARUBANS SPEAK SPANISH.

Or does the Aruba.com web page lie about that?

[henk]

Perhaps Glenda is just trying to explain, BECAUSE most people on Aruba DO speak English, there would be no NEED to make a Spanish poster..
(overbodige?) superfluous ?... Just a guess..

[Gregor]

Maybe you missed this part of my post, from the Aruba.com website:

Dutch and the local language of Papiamento are the official languages of Aruba, but most Arubans speak a minimum of four languages including English and Spanish.

http://www.aruba.com/about/language.php

It's you who is not making sense. I thought you lived on that island? I thought you were the local "in the know"? Surely you would know that MOST ARUBANS SPEAK SPANISH.

Or does the Aruba.com web page lie about that?
:roll: :roll:

If a person is multilingual why would he need the same poster in every language he speaks?

The question isn't whether or not any Arubans speak Spanish, it's how many Arubans speak only Spanish?

The answer is probably very few.

[iquitos]

The Spanish posters were printed much later. It doesn't make sense since for the posters to be in Spanish as she went missing on a Dutch Island that speaks Papiamento, and English. Why Spanish?

don't you have a lot of spanish speaking "help" on the island? last i was there spanish went a lot further than dutch. the nocturnal gardener was colombiano not?

[iquitos]

who speak/read only spanish. they do all the menial work, the dishwashing, the sheet changing, the gardening, the false testifying. surely glenda knows that.

[minitess]

If a person is multilingual why would he need the same poster in every language he speaks?

The question isn't whether or not any Arubans speak Spanish, it's how many Arubans speak only Spanish?

The answer is probably very few.

No - the only question is:

your daughter is missing, what do you do? you put out the info in each language you can, in hopes someone will read it and have some information for you.

Not to mention..............take a gander at the number of microphones in front of Beth and Jug. They were speaking to an international audience, and had the Spanish language posters tacked right to the podium beneath them.

It's just more mud slinging from Glenda at Natalee's family. And it's disgusting.

[minitess]

who speak/read only spanish. they do all the menial work, the dishwashing, the sheet changing, the gardening, the false testifying. surely glenda knows that.

good points, iq.

[CancunMole]

Not true.
Natalee made some phone calls after Joran got home.
Thats why Beth kept trying (in vain) to place Natalee with Paulus and Joran, at 4:00 am.

Wouldn't it be nice to see or even hear some real proof of this other than an Internet poster's say so, really...

[sarge]

No - the only question is:

your daughter is missing, what do you do? you put out the info in each language you can, in hopes someone will read it and have some information for you.

Not to mention..............take a gander at the number of microphones in front of Beth and Jug. They were speaking to an international audience, and had the Spanish language posters tacked right to the podium beneath them.

It's just more mud slinging from Glenda at Natalee's family. And it's disgusting.

It would not have mattered what language, the posters or the pictures on them would have been criticized. Natalee's body was long gone by then anyway.

[Gregor]

No - the only question is:

your daughter is missing, what do you do?

The answer is:

You let the authorities handle the investigation, and you cooperate with them any way you can.

[iquitos]

someone suggested she do a poster in spanish after the rumors natalee was seen in venezuela surfaced. i recall the plan was to distribute them there. i think if anyone saw the picture and recognized it they might call the number. and they were trying to get the word out on the reward. that message apparently even reached a drug addict at the dump.

[Glenda]

Arubans are Dutch nationals. The local language is Papiamento. Natalee is American and Arubans speak "American" English..... Why would the posters be in Spanish?

That is like putting German posters up in Holland! Why would anyone do that? Because most Nederlanders speak German?

FYI: Papiamento (or Papiamentu) is the language spoken on the Caribbean islands of Aruba, Bonaire, and Curaçao (the so-called "ABC islands").

Papiamento is a creole language with roots in primarily African, Portuguese and Dutch and to a lesser extent Spanish, and Native Indian languages. New words like "Happy Hour" are in English!

[Glenda]

who speak/read only spanish. they do all the menial work, the dishwashing, the sheet changing, the gardening, the false testifying. surely glenda knows that.

Kind of like a lottery? Who ever comes up with the best story in Spanish that points to Joran wins?

BTW, a non Spanish speaker speaking Spanish to an Aruban is rude! FYI!

[iquitos]

on the island are Dominicans and Colombians. There was speculation Natalee might have absconded/been taken to the mainland.

what about the foreign mostly spanish speaking "help"?

BTW, a non Spanish speaker speaking Spanish to an Aruban is rude! FYI!

How would a non spanish speaker speak spanish?

[iquitos]

Arubans are Dutch nationals. The local language is Papiamento. Natalee is American and Arubans speak "American" English..... Why would the posters be in Spanish?

That is like putting German posters up in Holland! Why would anyone do that? Because most Nederlanders speak German?

FYI: Papiamento (or Papiamentu) is the language spoken on the Caribbean islands of Aruba, Bonaire, and Curaçao (the so-called "ABC islands").

Papiamento is a creole language with roots in primarily African, Portuguese and Dutch and to a lesser extent Spanish, and Native Indian languages. New words like "Happy Hour" are in English!

what about the colombianos?

[Glenda]

on the island are Dominicans and Colombians. There was speculation Natalee might have absconded/been taken to the mainland.

what about the foreign mostly spanish speaking "help"?

BTW, a non Spanish speaker speaking Spanish to an Aruban is rude! FYI!

How would a non spanish speaker speak spanish?

Ask the non-Spanish speaking Beth who made the posters?

Your question about addressing the DR's and Colombians is interesting... So, why not the Brazilians?

[resigned]

Ask the non-Spanish speaking Beth who made the posters?

Your question about addressing the DR's and Colombians is interesting... So, why not the Brazilians?

What about the French.....Saint Martin/Sint Martin? ......gee, do you thnk that when the media wrote about the Holloway case they may have put the information in their own language? Maybe there should be an International Missing Person Poster Site. You can just google translate any missing person poster in the world.

[Glenda]

What about the French.....Saint Martin/Sint Martin? ......gee, do you thnk that when the media wrote about the Holloway case they may have put the information in their own language? Maybe there should be an International Missing Person Poster Site. You can just google translate any missing person poster in the world.

Exactly, why put the poster in Spanish for the July 5th conference... The day the F16s flew... The day of the photo shoot with the F16s?

EVERYONE ON ARUBA including Carlos the Gardener and Carlos the Frozen Condom Keeper speak Papiamento! What's up with the Spanish posters launched on Día de la Independencia de Venezuela?