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Postby resigned » Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:01 pm

Bongo wrote:
One, two, three, hundred arrests of a 'suspects' does not imply 'guilt'.

I wonder, is it really THAT hard to understand some very simple basic principles of criminal law procedure??


Have you informed ALE and the KLPD of this?
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Postby Bongo » Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:56 pm

resigned wrote:
Have you informed ALE and the KLPD of this?


Why should I... ???

I'm quite confident ALE and KLPD do act according basic principles of criminal law procedure.

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Re: joran van der sloot is a hopeless liar

Postby iquitos » Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:56 pm

AC wrote:

IQ, with what we know now regarding Natalee's disappearance, do you think Joran was responsible?

The Investigators on this case has many times said all roads lead back to Joran. This was before he had his "time" with Vander Eem. So, what is your gut feeling?

Also, do you think there is a possibility that evidence was suppressed in any way with this case, due to Joran's Dad and his status on Aruba?


i don't know if joran was responsible and i don't think evidence was suppressed at the instance of his father.
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Re: joran van der sloot is a hopeless liar

Postby iquitos » Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:58 pm

all10suspects wrote:

Being that daddy is friends with the top cop at the time and the judge that makes rulings on this case I thinkt they all did what they could do to
protect Joran. Friends helping friends. JMO!


why do you insist on repeating a defamation you cannot support?
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Re: joran van der sloot is a hopeless liar

Postby all10suspects » Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:00 pm

iquitos wrote:
why do you insist on repeating a defamation you cannot support?


JMO! or else they would have removed themselves from the case like they do in the states. Not saying they did just that one never knows!
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Re: ok

Postby WordsofWisdom » Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:04 pm

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This was my entire post....interesting snip job, WOW, with no indication of such.

Heli, it is not preposterous....as it has been stated here many times, "no body, no case". Now, with that mindset, to me sounds like the beginnings of a cover up. That is my opinion. It takes me back to the Caylee Anthony case. Just because there is no body, doesn't mean someone was not involved in a crime. I think Joran was involved in a crime and I think Paul knows more about it than is known...but like I said, that is MY opinion.


I, and others do it all the time.
The purpose is to quote the part you are responding to so as not to waste my, or other people's time quoting something that has nothing to do with my response. And I will continue to do it so as not to waste my, or other people's time quoting something that has nothing to do with my response. Its done all the time. I didn't change your meaning, I simply had nothing to say about the rest of that post, so I didn't, so as not to waste my, or other people's time quoting something that has nothing to do with my response. And I will continue to do it so as not to waste my, or other people's time quoting something that has nothing to do with my response. :wink:
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Re: joran van der sloot is a hopeless liar

Postby WordsofWisdom » Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:08 pm

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JMO! or else they would have removed themselves from the case like they do in the states. Not saying they did just that one never knows!


Whaaattttt?!???
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Re: joran van der sloot is a hopeless liar

Postby Bongo » Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:10 pm

iquitos wrote:
why do you insist on repeating a defamation you cannot support?


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Postby WordsofWisdom » Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:11 pm

GBMW wrote:Indeed All10...they even haven't been very helpful towards the LE that are trying hard to find out what happened.


As if...YOU would know.
Beth can't even get that information- but you can?
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Postby Bongo » Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:14 pm

WordsofWisdom wrote:
As if...YOU would know.
Beth can't even get that information- but you can?



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Re: joran van der sloot is a hopeless liar

Postby all10suspects » Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:17 pm

WordsofWisdom wrote:
Whaaattttt?!???


How many times do lawyers and judges take themselves off the case in the states? Even the Aruban PM want Mr Statten off the case. Why?
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Postby WordsofWisdom » Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:47 pm

resigned wrote:Him and Julia were hiding Natalee out. Take it as serious as you like.


If that was true, then why do you insist on dumping on anyone that believes JVDS is innocent of any wrongdoing?

If it isn't true, then why post it.

Seriously.
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Re: ok

Postby AC » Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:35 pm

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I, and others do it all the time.
The purpose is to quote the part you are responding to so as not to waste my, or other people's time quoting something that has nothing to do with my response. And I will continue to do it so as not to waste my, or other people's time quoting something that has nothing to do with my response. Its done all the time. I didn't change your meaning, I simply had nothing to say about the rest of that post, so I didn't, so as not to waste my, or other people's time quoting something that has nothing to do with my response. And I will continue to do it so as not to waste my, or other people's time quoting something that has nothing to do with my response. :wink:


When it comes to my posts, I would prefer you quote the whole post, and highlight the area you are speaking of.

OR

Make note that you snipped my post. TIA
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Postby resigned » Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:47 pm

WordsofWisdom wrote:
If that was true, then why do you insist on dumping on anyone that believes JVDS is innocent of any wrongdoing?

If it isn't true, then why post it.

Seriously.


Why do you insist on dumping on anyone that believes that Joran van der Sloot is indeed involved in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. No one has seen or heard from Natalee after she was last seen with Joran.

Natalee is believed to be dead by Aruban Law Enforcement and the OM on Aruba.

The FBI has been represented by the head of their violent crimes unit when meeting with the Aruban delegation in the U.S.

Why would you keep insisting that Natalee just up ran away or that she wasn't the person who left with J2K or that Joran is not involved?

Seriously.
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Postby resigned » Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:49 pm

Bongo wrote:
resigned wrote:
Have you informed ALE and the KLPD of this?


Why should I... ???

I'm quite confident ALE and KLPD do act according basic principles of criminal law procedure.

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Re: ok

Postby AlwaysL8 » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:20 pm

WordsofWisdom wrote:
I, and others do it all the time.
The purpose is to quote the part you are responding to so as not to waste my, or other people's time quoting something that has nothing to do with my response. And I will continue to do it so as not to waste my, or other people's time quoting something that has nothing to do with my response. Its done all the time. I didn't change your meaning, I simply had nothing to say about the rest of that post, so I didn't, so as not to waste my, or other people's time quoting something that has nothing to do with my response. And I will continue to do it so as not to waste my, or other people's time quoting something that has nothing to do with my response. :wink:


"my and other peoples" time sure was wasted reading that 4 times.
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Re: ok

Postby resigned » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:30 pm

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"my and other peoples" time sure was wasted reading that 4 times.


Wasted days and wasted nights.... :lol:
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Re: joran van der sloot is a hopeless liar

Postby iquitos » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:37 pm

all10suspects wrote:
How many times do lawyers and judges take themselves off the case in the states? Even the Aruban PM want Mr Statten off the case. Why?


one would think learning to spell his name would be in order given your fatal obsession with his inherent evil.
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Re: ok

Postby frazerclan » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:41 pm

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Wasted days and wasted nights.... :lol:


26,580 posts in 800 days gives just over 33 posts per day ... nah, you've got no time to waste!
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Re: ok

Postby Slickster » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:58 pm

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26,580 posts in 800 days gives just over 33 posts per day ... nah, you've got no time to waste!


Thankfully, the above mentioned poster has dropped to 32.94.
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Re: ok

Postby resigned » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:58 pm

frazerclan wrote:
26,580 posts in 800 days gives just over 33 posts per day ... nah, you've got no time to waste!


Sorry - I only have one log on name, I wasn't aware that I should keep a storage shed full of nicks.
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Postby resigned » Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:00 pm

iquitos wrote:
one would think learning to spell his name would be in order given your fatal obsession with his inherent evil.


Huh?
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Re: ok

Postby AlwaysL8 » Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:00 pm

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Wasted days and wasted nights.... :lol:


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Postby AC » Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:04 pm

I have heard talk that Boeti has been sentenced to jail in Aruba....is this true?
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Postby Slickster » Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:11 pm

AC wrote:I have heard talk that Boeti has been sentenced to jail in Aruba....is this true?


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