So it was Beth Twitty

[DocTar]

After four years, it's hard to be specific, but the statement 'going in and out of consciousness' was to my knowledge, Beth's spin on the makeout session in the backseat. I am nearly positive that no body else said those exact words....the words are so typically Bethspeak...and sometime she also got ahold of those fake statements and was waving them about like she had the only version of the truth. We did hear some new remarks after that shining example of mother love.

[yankee-in-france]

I don't know because my life experiences tell me that if someone is sleeping, you can wake them up. If you attempt waking them up and it doesn't work and then you shake them and they still don't wake up, I think that the person might at best be unconscious or at worse, dead but JMO, and I also think that Joran did mention his inability to awaken Natalee to ALE which could well be the basis for the death by overdose.

[cajun_mali]

I thought he said she didn't want to go back to the hotel. I'm not sure if I'm correct.

I don't know because my life experiences tell me that if someone is sleeping, you can wake them up. If you attempt waking them up and it doesn't work and then you shake them and they still don't wake up, I think that the person might at best be unconscious or at worse, dead but JMO, and I also think that Joran did mention his inability to awaken Natalee to ALE which could well be the basis for the death by overdose.

[FloridaDoug]

'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for Oct. 14th

Read the transcript to the Friday show

updated 10:05 a.m. ET, Mon., Oct . 17, 2005

Guests: Dave Holloway, Gerold Dompig, Jamie Skeeters, George Malim, Debbie Boyd, Danny Jenkins, Thomas Wilks, Terry Wright, James Edstrom, Jim Nolan, Ken Sunshine, Michelle Duggar, Jim Bob Duggar, Joshua Duggar, Josiah Duggar

RITA COSBY, HOST: Tonight, for the first time, Natalee Holloway‘s father confronts Aruban police, demanding answers on what really happened to his daughter.

<SNIPPED>

COSBY: Let me go to the chief because I want to bring also both of you to be able to ask questions. Chief, did any of these men—if we can show the picture of the three of them—this is Joran and both Kalpoe brothers. Did any of these three ever admit to having sex with Natalee to authorities at any point, Chief?

DOMPIG: No, they did not. They keep denying it, and they only went so far as to say that they fondled sexually. At least, Joran did that, and the others denied everything.

COSBY: Now, did Joran—we‘ve heard from the family, Chief, that—you know, that Joran was claiming in some statement that she was going in and out of consciousness. Have you seen that anywhere?

DOMPIG: Yes. That‘s definitely in the statements, and that‘s why we were kind of disappointed when the judge didn‘t accept that because that‘s basically a felony in Aruba. We think that what happened was that the judge just didn‘t buy it the way—because Joran went back and forth with his statements, and he withdrew two statements which he had already given to us. So basically, none of his statements were really trustworthy.

COSBY: But what you‘re saying, Chief, is that he did say that, at some point, she was in and out of consciousness. You‘re saying that‘s a felony in Aruba. where did he say that happened, in the back of the car?

DOMPIG: In the back of the car. He mentioned a couple of times that she passed out a couple of times. Those were his words. But in a way that someone that‘s drunk, that‘s kind of like not really aware of what‘s happening. And that was to us very interesting and very important because we thought, as investigators, that we had at least that. But again, what we are faced with—we‘re faced with, I think that Dave will also have that experience, that it was very disappointing that at a certain point in time, the judge didn‘t buy it.

<SNIPPED>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9727957/

[iquitos]

I don't know because my life experiences tell me that if someone is sleeping, you can wake them up. If you attempt waking them up and it doesn't work and then you shake them and they still don't wake up, I think that the person might at best be unconscious or at worse, dead but JMO, and I also think that Joran did mention his inability to awaken Natalee to ALE which could well be the basis for the death by overdose.

if some one is passed out drunk it is a little harder to wake them up.

[sarge]

DOMPIG: Yes. That‘s definitely in the statements, and that‘s why we were kind of disappointed when the judge didn‘t accept that because that‘s basically a felony in Aruba. We think that what happened was that the judge just didn‘t buy it the way—because Joran went back and forth with his statements, and he withdrew two statements which he had already given to us. So basically, none of his statements were really trustworthy.

So Joran did say it and it was in some of his statements.
He was going back and forth and did withdraw two statements. It was probably after he realized that he had cofessed to a felony if he was fondling a girl who did not know what he was doing . It would depend on the judge and how he interpreted Joran's statements. It is a shame because at that point he may have eventually told the whole story. Interesting too that the Kalpoes were apparently no part of it.

[petals]

DOMPIG: Yes. That‘s definitely in the statements, and that‘s why we were kind of disappointed when the judge didn‘t accept that because that‘s basically a felony in Aruba. We think that what happened was that the judge just didn‘t buy it the way—because Joran went back and forth with his statements, and he withdrew two statements which he had already given to us. So basically, none of his statements were really trustworthy.

So Joran did say it and it was in some of his statements.
He was going back and forth and did withdraw two statements. It was probably after he realized that he had cofessed to a felony if he was fondling a girl who did not know what he was doing . It would depend on the judge and how he interpreted Joran's statements. It is a shame because at that point he may have eventually told the whole story. Interesting too that the Kalpoes were apparently no part of it.

I still think it's open to interpretation. First of all, Joran gave conflicting statements at different times so the court had to do the same thing that we are doing - that is, pick and choose which ones to believe. And also, just saying that Natalee passed out at some point (and came to and passed out again or whatever) does not necessarily mean that a felony was committed. Remember also that, after the Skeeters tapes played on the Dr. Phil Show, Dompig clearly said that none of the suspects had confessed to any sexual crime against Natalee. So I guess I'm not ready to say that the judge was in on the coverup.

[cajun_mali]

I think they said they had 20 or so statements, signed and unsigned, with small differences between them (according to Dompig as I remember.) We don't know which statement was the one Dompig was talking about, and it sounds like one of those small differences. No, it doesn't mean Joran committed a crime, but it sure looks like ALE was out to get him.

Isn't it fun finding who said what first.

I still think it's open to interpretation. First of all, Joran gave conflicting statements at different times so the court had to do the same thing that we are doing - that is, pick and choose which ones to believe. And also, just saying that Natalee passed out at some point (and came to and passed out again or whatever) does not necessarily mean that a felony was committed. Remember also that, after the Skeeters tapes played on the Dr. Phil Show, Dompig clearly said that none of the suspects had confessed to any sexual crime against Natalee. So I guess I'm not ready to say that the judge was in on the coverup.

[henk]

DOMPIG: Yes. That‘s definitely in the statements, and that‘s why we were kind of disappointed when the judge didn‘t accept that because that‘s basically a felony in Aruba. We think that what happened was that the judge just didn‘t buy it the way—because Joran went back and forth with his statements, and he withdrew two statements which he had already given to us. So basically, none of his statements were really trustworthy.

So Joran did say it and it was in some of his statements.
He was going back and forth and did withdraw two statements. It was probably after he realized that he had cofessed to a felony if he was fondling a girl who did not know what he was doing . It would depend on the judge and how he interpreted Joran's statements. It is a shame because at that point he may have eventually told the whole story. Interesting too that the Kalpoes were apparently no part of it.

I think you should read the rest of it too Sarge..

COSBY: But what you‘re saying, Chief, is that he did say that, at some point, she was in and out of consciousness. You‘re saying that‘s a felony in Aruba. where did he say that happened, in the back of the car?

DOMPIG: In the back of the car. He mentioned a couple of times that she passed out a couple of times. Those were his words. But in a way that someone that‘s drunk, that‘s kind of like not really aware of what‘s happening. And that was to us very interesting and very important because we thought, as investigators, that we had at least that. But again, what we are faced with—we‘re faced with, I think that Dave will also have that experience, that it was very disappointing that at a certain point in time, the judge didn‘t buy it.

[sarge]

I watched that program, Henk. I don't remember all of Dompig's interviews word for word but at the time I was believing everything that the said. He would say that they were in the final stages of the case and I sure thought he meant it.
I did not remember that it was Joran who said that Natalee was fading in and out of consciousness but do remember that Joran told Freddy that the girl did not come awake at some point or at least Freddy said that he did.
I remember Dompig saying that he thought the boys were guilty of something but he just did not know what. Whatever, this case is probably never going to be solved. It has been too messed up in Aruba and Joe T said that same thing.

[prolific]

What difference would reading the rest make...Point was did he say it or not say it, was it in his statements or not, we've been saying that Beth just made it up, twisted, he never said that in his statements, she just dozed for a bit.......now that we see Dompig said it really was in his statements we need to say yabbut, it must have been just one of those little differences, yabbut Natalee was drunk, yabbut ALE was just after him and on and on...how long before we say...he was just telling ALE what they wanted to hear, he was lying because he was scared...MBers lie, Beth lies..

edit: Since Natalee was really that drunk and unaware of what was happening wouldn't it have been easily noticeable to J2K how drunk and unaware of what was happening she was? Maybe another of his 'little differences' was that when, according to his words, he was fingering her, it was when she was passed out and unaware of what was happening.....funny that one of the prime suspects later story changes was that she wasn't drunk...

[yankee-in-france]

What difference would reading the rest make...Point was did he say it or not say it, was it in his statements or not, we've been saying that Beth just made it up, twisted, he never said that in his statements, she just dozed for a bit.......now that we see Dompig said it really was in his statements we need to say yabbut, it must have been just one of those little differences, yabbut Natalee was drunk, yabbut ALE was just after him and on and on...how long before we say...he was just telling ALE what they wanted to hear, he was lying because he was scared...MBers lie, Beth lies..

If Natalee was really that drunk and unaware of what was happening wouldn't it have been noticeable to J2K how drunk and unaware of what was happening she was? Maybe another of his 'little differences' was that when, according to his words, he was fingering her, it was when she was passed out and unaware of what was happening.....funny that one of the prime suspects later story changes was that she wasn't drunk...

.... good point, Pro, and if she was so out of it .. when pray tell, did she tell Joran about Beth being related to Hitler? Did she say it in the car? Did 2K hear it?

[henk]

I watched that program, Henk. I don't remember all of Dompig's interviews word for word but at the time I was believing everything that the said. He would say that they were in the final stages of the case and I sure thought he meant it.
I did not remember that it was Joran who said that Natalee was fading in and out of consciousness but do remember that Joran told Freddy that the girl did not come awake at some point or at least Freddy said that he did.
I remember Dompig saying that he thought the boys were guilty of something but he just did not know what. Whatever, this case is probably never going to be solved. It has been too messed up in Aruba and Joe T said that same thing.

I believed Dompig too, Sarge. But at the same time I was always suspicious when it came to translations.. And for Dompig, Janssen, Mos etcetera.. English is not their native language and there can be easily a mixup in the questions and answers.. I don't even trust the statements given in Pap. and translated later.. Even in my own language, words don't always mean the same thing, and I have to admit .. I said things sometimes what I meant different.. and needed more explanation..

Perhaps we should ask YIF if she can translate France into English or vice versa without surching for a different word sometimes..

IMO.. Joran didn't say those exact words.. "in and out of consciousness"

[yankee-in-france]

I believed Dompig too, Sarge. But at the same time I was always suspicious when it came to translations.. And for Dompig, Janssen, Mos etcetera.. English is not their native language and there can be easily a mixup in the questions and answers.. I don't even trust the statements given in Pap. and translated later.. Even in my own language, words don't always mean the same thing, and I have to admit .. I said things sometimes what I meant different.. and needed more explanation..

Perhaps we should ask YIF if she can translate France into English or vice versa without surching for a different word sometimes..

IMO.. Joran didn't say those exact words.. "in and out of consciousness"

I agree, Henk. You can't translate literally because the literal translation many times is ridiculous, but knowing what it means, you can then translate in English but many times it doesn't even resemble the literal translation. Now that's about as clear as ....


ETA ... now you know why I don't do many translations.

[sarge]

Henk, you have a good point.

Domig is an articulate English speaker. He was trained at Quantico in the United States and he is obviously a very smart man. I believe that Dompig would not have a lot of problem with interpretations.

You could say the same thing about Joran's interpretations about comments that Natalee made. Joran does also speak English very well but it is not his first language.

[henk]

I agree, Henk. You can't translate literally because the literal translation many times is ridiculous, but knowing what it means, you can then translate in English but many times it doesn't even resemble the literal translation. Now that's about as clear as ....


ETA ... now you know why I don't do many translations.

Thanks YIF..



Edit in.. I mean thank you for your answer.. Not that you think I thank you for not translating..

[henk]

Henk, you have a good point.

Domig is an articulate English speaker. He was trained at Quantico in the United States and he is obviously a very smart man. I believe that Dompig would not have a lot of problem with interpretations.

You could say the same thing about Joran's interpretations about comments that Natalee made. Joran does also speak English very well but it is not his first language.

But, Sarge.. If that is true, then why did he try to explain in what context Joran said this?

-snip-
DOMPIG: In the back of the car. He mentioned a couple of times that she passed out a couple of times. Those were his words. But in a way that someone that‘s drunk, that‘s kind of like not really aware of what‘s happening.
-snip-

[sarge]

Henk, that was something about Dompig speaking to the press so much. He probably said way more than he should have many times and may have just been speaking police talk. It is understandable that a gag order was finally placed on him.
I wonder why he left the police department.

Dompig put some of his own opinions I think in those many intervews.
The 48 hrs interview was interesting but puzzling too. He said Natalee was dug up and buried somewhere else.

[henk]

Henk, that was something about Dompig speaking to the press so much. He probably said way more than he should have many times and may have just been speaking police talk. It is understandable that a gag order was finally placed on him.
I wonder why he left the police department.

Dompig put some of his own opinions I think in those many intervews.
The 48 hrs interview was interesting but puzzling too. He said Natalee was dug up and buried somewhere else.

Wasn't that because of his son Michael?

I agree with you, Sarge. Dompig talked to much and gave his own opinion at what could have happened.. He should not have done that..

[FloridaDoug]

Aruban police say new tapes could spur arrests

Police official tells 'Abrams Report' about latest in the Holloway case

TRANSCRIPT

updated 9:14 p.m. ET, Wed., Oct . 12, 2005

With nobody in custody in Aruba, it has been a quiet month in the case of missing Alabama teen Natalie Holloway. However, recent statements by former person of interest Deepak Kalpoe talking about his and his friends' interactions with Holloway on the night the girl disappeared, have some wondering whether there may be more arrests on the horizon.

Gerald Dompig, the deputy chief of police in Aruba, joined MSNBC's Dan Abrams on Wednesday to discuss the status of the case.

DAN ABRAMS, MSNBC HOST: Chief Dompig, thank you very much for taking the time to come on the program. We appreciate it. Let me first ask you, are you re-interviewing Deepak Kalpoe, as a result of the audiotape?

GERALD DOMPIG, ARUBAN DEPUTY CHIEF OF POLICE: At this moment, not yet. We have requested, as you know, the official tapes, or the original tapes. ... I don't know if I can (call) it a misunderstanding, but the first reaction we got through the lawyer of the family was that we could only get the tapes from the Dr. Phil show if we went on the show, and that was not going to happen.

We want to solve the case. We don't want to be part of a show. And as a result of that, I have received a call from the gentleman, Skeeters, yesterday...

ABRAMS: He's the one who actually asked the questions on the tape.

DOMPIG: Exactly. Exactly. The ex-police chief, I think. And we had a very good conversation for quite a while. And I have explained to him, from one chief to another chief, that this is very important to us and that we really wanted him to hand over the tapes to us as soon as possible.

ABRAMS: And he is going to do that now?

DOMPIG: He is working on it ... you could say that the glitch was that -- I understood that the producer of the company of the "Dr. Phil Show" wasn't pleased because they said that they didn't -- they never put any conditions on it. But we were informed differently.

But that's not the issue right now. More important is to me that we do get the tapes as soon as possible. ... Because I assure you that, if these tapes are legitimate, it could turn around the case.

ABRAMS: Why is that? Is what he says on that tape inconsistent with what he said in interviews with the police?

DOMPIG: Absolutely. Absolutely. They always denied having sex with this young girl. And so, in looking at the tapes, to watch if this is really what this gentleman has said, then it is totally contrary to what he has declared at our police station.

ABRAMS: So, if those tapes are verified by you, are you going to re-arrest Deepak Kalpoe?

DOMPIG: Of course, that's one of the strong possibilities. Don't forget that we do have to follow tactical issues and strategies.

The issue, also, is that, in Aruba, we don't know the plea bargains. It's not allowed within our system. So we do have to follow different rules and regulations.

But I assure you that, once this is verified, and if it's legitimate, the case will turn around fully. And it will be for us absolutely enough new information to talk once more to this young man, or, as a matter of fact, with maybe to all three.

ABRAMS: So what would you do -- let's again assume that you're able to verify this tape. Joran Van Der Sloot is living in the Netherlands right now. Would you demand that he return?

DOMPIG: That's a possibility. We will have to go through the judge of instruction, of course, for every new activity which you could say basically is evasive for whatever reasons, because people have constitutional rights.

If we want to do searches and we want to arrest people within a case like this, we do have to go to a judge.

ABRAMS: So let's be clear. Up to this point, Deepak Kalpoe has denied having had sex with Natalee that night?

DOMPIG: That's correct.

ABRAMS: What about the other suspect, Joran Van Der Sloot for example? Did he deny repeatedly that he ever had sex with Natalee that night?

DOMPIG: They all denied. And I'm glad you asked you that question, because there's also some rumors going around from I think part of the family that Joran supposedly declared in one of his statements that he had sex with this girl in his home or his apartment.

ABRAMS: Yes.

DOMPIG: There's no mention nowhere in the statements of that.

ABRAMS: Let me let you listen to this from Beth Twitty. And then I want you to respond.

DOMPIG: OK.

-- Begin video clip --
BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: I've seen several of Joran's statements. And I don't know why he was released. He has her coming in and out of consciousness repeatedly throughout his statements. You know, he admits to bringing her to his home. And he even gives a date and a time, 1:40 a.m. on May the 30th, and, you know, has sex with her in his home.
-- End video clip --

ABRAMS: So you're saying that that is simply not true?

DOMPIG: Not true. As I said earlier, also, we are re-reading all the statements at this moment. And there's no statement of that kind.

The only statement that comes close is that he had a plan -- he wanted to go to the house to have sex or whatever, and they stopped in front of the house, but they did not leave the car. So they didn't go into the house. That's his statement.

And I think that maybe somewhere, somehow Beth saw the statement -- it was translated, or she didn't get the statement completely the way it is. But I assure you this is the statement.

ABRAMS: We have heard from official statements from the authorities in Aruba that Joran Van Der Sloot made inconsistent statements. True?

DOMPIG: That is correct.

ABRAMS: What were they inconsistent about?

DOMPIG: Well, it would take me, I think, a little over two days to go over all the inconsistencies. None of the stories match up, let me put it that way. So when it comes to believing this individual, we know in which category to place him.

ABRAMS: All right. But when you say that none of the statements match up, he never admitted to having sex with Natalee, correct?

DOMPIG: No.

ABRAMS: He never admitted to killing Natalee or knowing what happened to Natalee, correct?

DOMPIG: No.

ABRAMS: The inconsistencies were, when was he on the beach with her, did they go back to his house, et cetera?

DOMPIG: Exactly, details.

ABRAMS: Was there a major detail he was inconsistent about?

DOMPIG: I can't comment on that, because talking about that would really also expose future strategies and tactics we have.

ABRAMS: All right. Fair enough. What about the brothers? I mean, we talked a little bit about Deepak. Were their statements inconsistent, in terms of what they said happened?

DOMPIG: That is correct.

ABRAMS: Your office and many of the authorities in Aruba have have been criticized for not arresting all three of them very early on, people criticizing you for waiting 10-something days to finally arrest them, saying the evidence was destroyed, et cetera. What's your response to that?

DOMPIG: Well, let me explain -- try to explain shortly. First of all, our systems of criminal law are different. In the United States, as I did a couple of trainings at the FBI with the FBI, it is -- I know that they have plea bargaining.

If this would have happened in the states, you'd probably arrest all three, see which one is the weakest, and try to cut a deal with him. And that's the way it's done in your country.

We don't have that plea bargain tool in our system. So we have to follow different rules. That's one.

The second thing is that these boys, they were seen last with Natalee. But they had a clean slate. They didn't have any criminal activities in their past. So, as you would say, they didn't have a rap sheet. So there wasn't any reason to think that their first story wasn't right or something -- or there was foul play or whatever.

Thirdly, don't forget that we have very soon, within the window frame of eight, nine days, we started to monitor them, meaning that sometimes choosing the moment of arresting depends on whether you think that you have monitored enough or that you want to monitor a little further.

ABRAMS: Right.

DOMPIG: So, without really going into specific details, I'm just trying to explain to you that the moment of arrest doesn't really say anything about the fact that we-what we thought of them, or what we planned, or even what we knew of them.

So, although it was a bit mind-bothering to the outsides, looking at us from the outside in, I can assure that this was carefully looked at by the prosecutor's office, by the investigating team. At that time, with the information that we had to our disposal, at that time, it was not wise, in our opinion, at that time, to arrest them very early.

ABRAMS: Do you think that you made any mistakes in the context of this investigation?

DOMPIG: Of course. In any investigation, after the fact ... you're second-guessing each other within a team...

ABRAMS: Specifically, what do you think that you should have done differently?

DOMPIG: Oh, well, sometimes you talk to people and you categorize their information in a certain category and later on you feel that maybe you have used the wrong category and given it the wrong priority. Those kind of things. So those are always judgment calls. ... But in any team, all over the world, colleagues within a team sometimes second-guess each other. That's police work.

ABRAMS: Do you believe that Joran, Deepak and Satish were involved in Natalee's disappearance?

DOMPIG: Well, at this time, I think that all three persons know something that they are not telling, at least not telling us.

ABRAMS: Something about her disappearance?

DOMPIG: Exactly. And I go by the rule of thumb that, in the first 40 days -- as I said in a different program -- the first 40 days, law enforcement has probably also already spoken to the perpetrators.

So we feel strongly that we have already spoken to them. And there's no one else outside this group that could be involved or responsible.

So sometimes people will ask us that, "Are you not tunnel-visioned? Maybe you should look at other possibilities." Of course. We did that. But we still feel that, every time you go on a path, a different path, that path leads back, comes back to these three boys.

ABRAMS: So you, again, have no other even possible suspects in connection with this case?

DOMPIG: At this time, no.

ABRAMS: And you don't expect to find anyone, do you?

DOMPIG: To tell you the truth, that's just from -- sometimes it's a gut feeling, as an investigator. I do not think so.

ABRAMS: Do you expect that, at some point in the relatively near future, that the three of them will be under arrest again?

DOMPIG: Well, it's very difficult to answer, but let me tell you this. If these boys are guilty of harming this girl, I need them to be behind bars as soon as possible.

ABRAMS: Has the pressure from the outside been hard for you to deal with, I mean, the criticism, the second-guessing, et cetera?

DOMPIG: Yes, because, when you're investigating a case, any criminal case, you have to abide by the law, you have to make a lot of judgment calls, and you have to try to stay focused on the facts, while everybody around you is very emotional, and the family, friends, and even the press.

But it's hard to stay focused. And it's hard to stay with the facts. Because, at the end of the day, only the facts will come in front of a judge.

ABRAMS: Let me ask you about the father of Joran. He was under arrest for a brief period of time before a judge released him. Do you think that he knows something?

DOMPIG: Well, he is, has been, and still is a person of interest. And I wouldn't like to say more than that at this time.

ABRAMS: But let's be clear. A person of interest in connection with Natalee's disappearance ... or in connection with something after the fact?

DOMPIG: Both.

ABRAMS: Finally, let me let you hear this -- another piece of sound from Beth Holloway Twitty, talking about a statement that she gave to the authorities that she seems very concerned about. And I want to give you a chance to respond.

Here's what she said on September 4.

--Begin video clip --
BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: I gave a statement to a detective on June 1, and of course they're printed in Dutch and translated into English for me, and I signed it. Well, that same day the same detective brought me another statement and asked me to sign it because they had to change a date. And I did. Well I just found out a week ago, Dan, that it's not my statement. It had been altered greatly.

So, it's just hard to tell -- what all has happened since the beginning has just been unbelievable.
-- End video clip --

ABRAMS: What's your response to that?

DOMPIG: Well, really, it might sound strange, but I have to look into that. This is the first time I heard this. So I have to look into it.

But normally, people sign statements, and it has to be translated, they're not sure, or they want to change something. I don't know what happened in this instance, so I don't feel comfortable giving a response. But I think that, if anything happened that is not normal, we should look at it. But that's the only thing I can say right now. It's the first time I hear about it.

ABRAMS: And bottom line is, you think that the American people, the people who've come to care about Natalee, should feel confident in the work that your police department has been doing.

DOMPIG: Absolutely, absolutely. I told a press person here in Aruba the third day after Natalee went missing that Americans have been coming to Aruba over decades, and they are not just tourists anymore to us. They have become like family. So when something like this happens, it becomes personal because these things don't happen every day in Aruba. Aruba is a very safe island, and so when this happens, this hurts everybody.

As a matter of fact, when I go home every day, the first thing my wife asks me is, Have you guys found her? So it has become personal and I guarantee you that we would like to have the case solved yesterday.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9676188

[luvslalom]

Deepak statement:
6/16/05

You are telling me that on the night of May 30th 2005 I received a telephone call from Joran, that we had a conversation of approximately 8 minutes, and are asking whether I can state what the content of that conversation was. I cannot exactly remember the content of the conversation. I do remember that Joran said to me that he was on his way home by foot. That he was in the vicinity of the McDonalds at Palm Beach. I asked him if he had had sex with the girl. He said that they went into the water briefly and that after that they sat down on the beach and the girl fell asleep, that is what I understood. His actual words were that the girl "passed out" on the beach and that he left her there. I asked him why he had left her there. He answered that she would be leaving the same day and that someone would find her there. I told him off for the fact that he had left her there. I even told him he was sick for doing that to the girl. I have to tell you there was a lot of disturbance on the phone. It happened several times that I could not hear Joran. At some point it was so bad that he said that when he would get home, he would go online.

[henk]

http://www.screener.us/

"She got really drunk and we kept giving her water. Then she sat down on my bed and fell asleep. We just couldn't wake her up no matter how hard we tried!"

[Hannie]

The language thingy was and still is a problem since the early beginning of this case....

[henk]

The language thingy was and still is a problem since the early beginning of this case....

Yes, it is Hannie..

Do you believe Joran said these exact same words: "In and out of consciousness"?

[yankee-in-france]

Thanks YIF..



Edit in.. I mean thank you for your answer.. Not that you think I thank you for not translating..

Thank you for clarifying that you thought that I thought that you were thanking me for not translating. I did not think that but now that I think about it, why didn't you thank me for that? Well, thanks anyway for all of your thanks and I'll keep you in my thoughts or thanks or ...