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Postby FloridaDoug » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:32 pm

cajun_mali wrote:After 20 or so unsigned statements, one had something they thought they could use against 2k to get them to testify against j.


We do not know the statement was not signed
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Postby resigned » Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:13 pm

Did Dompig ever actually interrogate any of the suspects before he went on to the other things? I don't recall if his name was on any of the PV's or not. :?

He acted more like a LE spokesperson - except for the "misinformation campaign" and using the press to circulate whatever his latest theory happened to be .... :lol:
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Postby cajun_mali » Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:17 pm

FloridaDoug wrote:
We do not know the statement was not signed


We don't know if it's really in a statement.
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Postby iquitos » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:47 pm

petals wrote:We (maybe not you, but myself and some other people on this board) already had this debate a few months ago. After the Skeeters' tapes aired on Dr. Phil, Dompig said that none of the suspects ever confessed to any sexual conduct that would amount to a crime.


perhaps people keep bringing it up in the vain hope they can finally drown out the truth.
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Postby cajun_mali » Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:03 pm

FloridaDoug wrote:
We do not know the statement was not signed


In my opinion a signed statement would have had the weight in court to keep J in detention. Just my opinion.

Remember, Dompig said he needed verification from 2k.
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Postby AlwaysL8 » Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:37 pm

petals wrote:Do not try to tell me what I know. I disagreed with your characterization of Dompig's statements. Therefore, your question, which was based on an assumption that I did not accept, was moot.


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Postby FloridaDoug » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:59 am

cajun_mali wrote:
FloridaDoug wrote:
We do not know the statement was not signed


In my opinion a signed statement would have had the weight in court to keep J in detention. Just my opinion.

Remember, Dompig said he needed verification from 2k.


Joran was kept in detention all summer long
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Postby FloridaDoug » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:02 am

cajun_mali wrote:
FloridaDoug wrote:
We do not know the statement was not signed


We don't know if it's really in a statement.


True we KNOW very little. So far that has not stopped us from discussing the case.
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Postby FloridaDoug » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:06 am

resigned wrote:1) Did Dompig ever actually interrogate any of the suspects before he went on to the other things?

2) I don't recall if his name was on any of the PV's or not. :?

3) He acted more like a LE spokesperson - except for the "misinformation campaign" and using the press to circulate whatever his latest theory happened to be .... :lol:


1) I do not know. He implied that he did when he said there were several long days of interrogation of Joran.

2) IIRC his name is not on any of the PVs

3) Mostly to push back against all the bad publicity from the media circus
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Postby cajun_mali » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:33 am

FloridaDoug wrote:
Joran was kept in detention all summer long


Dompig said the judges wouldn't accept ALE's arguement. It appears to have happened late in J's detention.

DOMPIG: No, they did not. They keep denying it, and they only went so far as to say that they fondled sexually. At least, Joran did that, and the others denied everything.

COSBY: Now, did Joran—we‘ve heard from the family, Chief, that—you know, that Joran was claiming in some statement that she was going in and out of consciousness. Have you seen that anywhere?

DOMPIG: Yes. That‘s definitely in the statements, and that‘s why we were kind of disappointed when the judge didn‘t accept that because that‘s basically a felony in Aruba. We think that what happened was that the judge just didn‘t buy it the way—because Joran went back and forth with his statements, and he withdrew two statements which he had already given to us. So basically, none of his statements were really trustworthy.

COSBY: But what you‘re saying, Chief, is that he did say that, at some point, she was in and out of consciousness. You‘re saying that‘s a felony in Aruba. where did he say that happened, in the back of the car?

DOMPIG: In the back of the car. He mentioned a couple of times that she passed out a couple of times. Those were his words. But in a way that someone that‘s drunk, that‘s kind of like not really aware of what‘s happening. And that was to us very interesting and very important because we thought, as investigators, that we had at least that. But again, what we are faced with—we‘re faced with, I think that Dave will also have that experience, that it was very disappointing that at a certain point in time, the judge didn‘t buy it.


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Postby FloridaDoug » Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:12 am

cajun_mali wrote:In my opinion a signed statement would have had the weight in court to keep J in detention. Just my opinion.


Joran was held in detention all summer long
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Postby cajun_mali » Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:32 am

FloridaDoug wrote:
Joran was held in detention all summer long


And ALE wanted to continue holding him.

I'm wondering if "withdrew" meant he didn't sign ... purely supposition.
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Postby iquitos » Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:58 am

"at a certain point in time, the judge didn‘t buy it."
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Postby FloridaDoug » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:48 am

cajun_mali wrote:
And ALE wanted to continue holding him.

I'm wondering if "withdrew" meant he didn't sign ... purely supposition.


Or the statement was superceded by another
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Postby cajun_mali » Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:35 pm

FloridaDoug wrote:
Or the statement was superceded by another


Mostly an ALE mistake. Too many statements, it looks like they were ambushing J by creating a lot of stuff to cherry pick from. Dompig did say J talked about N passing out in the back of the car. Police car or Deepak's.
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Postby FloridaDoug » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:37 am

cajun_mali wrote:
FloridaDoug wrote:
Or the statement was superceded by another


Mostly an ALE mistake. Too many statements, it looks like they were ambushing J by creating a lot of stuff to cherry pick from. Dompig did say J talked about N passing out in the back of the car. Police car or Deepak's.


Maybe, or Gerald Dompig was correct when he said the little details changed more than 25 times
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